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Lyr Req: My Boy Jack

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GUEST,Kipling 12 Oct 02 - 04:30 AM
The Walrus 12 Oct 02 - 06:10 AM
nutty 12 Oct 02 - 06:17 AM
GUEST,Kipling 12 Oct 02 - 11:44 PM
pavane 13 Oct 02 - 11:39 AM
nutty 14 Oct 02 - 03:53 AM
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Subject: Lyr. re My Boy Jack
From: GUEST,Kipling
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 04:30 AM

Does anyone know the words to a short song I remember hearing on a Peter Bellamy CD called Bellamy, Mr.Kipling and the tradition I think.
Some of the songs are Kipling's poems and some are Bellamys as well as a few others thyrown in. I'm not sure who wrote this one.

I know a few of the words, they go something like this:
Have you heard any news of my boy jack?
Not this time-
Do you know when he'll be coming back?
Not with the wind blowing and this time.

It's a lovely little song in my opinion a bit sad though.
Hope someone can help- that would be great!


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Subject: Lyr Add: MY BOY JACK (Rudyard Kipling)
From: The Walrus
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 06:10 AM

MY BOY JACK
1911-18
Rudyard Kipling
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"HAVE you news of my boy Jack?"
    Not this tide.
"When d'you think that he'll come back?"
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.

"Has any one else had word of him?"
    Not this tide.
For what is sunk will hardly swim,
    Not with this wind blowing, and this tide.

"Oh, dear, what comfort can I find?"
    None this tide,
    Nor any tide,
Except he did not shame his kind?
    Not even with that wind blowing, and that tide.

Then hold your head up all the more,
    This tide,
    And every tide;
Because he was the son you bore,
    And gave to that wind blowing and that tide!


taken from Kipling site

Walrus


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Subject: Lyr Add: MY BOY JACK (R Kipling, P Bellamy)
From: nutty
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 06:17 AM

Kipling ..... the poem was by Rudyard Kipling and the tune by Peter Bellamy.

MY BOY JACK

Have you news of my boy Jack?
Not this tide
When d'you think he'll come back?
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide

Has anyone else had word of him?
Not this tide
For what is sunk will hardly swim
Not with this wind blowing, and this tide


Oh, dear, what comfort can I find?
None this tide
Nor any tide
Except he did not shame his kind
Not even with this wind blowing, and this tide


Then hold your head up all the more
This tide
And every tide
Because he was the son you bore
And gave to that wind blowing, and that tide


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My Boy Jack
From: GUEST,Kipling
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 11:44 PM

Thankyou so much for that speedy response. I was afraid it was a song few people had heard /or heard of and it would be a thread that would dissappear of the bottom of the list with no response.

It is a lovely song. I don't know which year it was but I understand that in his anxiousness for his son to join the army he lost him within a short time of him leaving his father. I think Kiping as any father would be was completely beside himself- maybe with guilt. This makes the words of the song and the sentiments all the more powerful.

Does anybody know if this song is believed to be based on the loss of his own son?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My Boy Jack
From: pavane
Date: 13 Oct 02 - 11:39 AM

I believe that is true that it is based on the loss of his son. I think the song is to be found on 'Keep on Kipling'.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: My Boy Jack
From: nutty
Date: 14 Oct 02 - 03:53 AM

I believe the guilt was compounded by the fact that the son was actually too young to join the army but Kipling had signed the papers allowing him to do so.


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