Peter Bellamy recordings?

Subject: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Barbara
Date: 21 Oct 98 - 01:17 PM

We were talking about Peter and all his wonderful Kipling tunes, and I dug out one old Young Tradition tape I had, but surely there's more recordings of him, right?
Seems like I remember a collection of sea chanties, with the Alabama on it, and weren't there at least two Young Tradition records? Did he record with others?
Thanks for your help.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Barry Finn
Date: 21 Oct 98 - 06:08 PM

He's got a solo LP called "Peter Bellamy, Tell It Like It Was" on Trailer Records !975. Two of my favorites on that are "On Board A 98" & "Rambling Robin" & just the other day I picked up his "Transports" (folk Opera) on CD from Topic, "I Onced Lived In Service " & his shanty "Roll Down" are both on it & are great examples of his writing talents. I remember seeing & hearing him years ago, he came on stage, bright flaming red shiny red suit, voice tearing through the hall, bouncing around till the whole place was rocking & singing, like a revival meeting was happening, hey he was a revival. Barry

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Oct 98 - 06:22 PM

also, "Keep On Kipling" and "Barrack Room Ballads"...no doubt not in print...he was a wonder!! He sold me a tape once..in person...told me "this is the best thing I've ever done..."...I related the story to someone who grinned and replied..."He says that about EVERYTHING he does..."

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Bob Schwarer
Date: 22 Oct 98 - 11:30 AM

Take a listen to the John Roberts & Tony Barrand CD "Naulakha Redux" It's a collection of 16 Rudyard Kipling songs. Most of the songs are credited to Peter Bellamy.

Bellamy's tune to "The Road to Mandalay" is also on The Friends of Fiddler's Green CD of the same name. Fiidler's Green is Ian Robb, Grit Laskin and 5 more. A nice CD.

Bob S.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 22 Oct 98 - 11:41 PM

Barrack Room Ballads was a Green Linnet LP. Just checked their internet catalogue... not available in any format.

Peter Bellamy was an brilliant solo performer. Very stylized, totally into folk music. He really cranked it out. 'The Transports' is a immense accomplishment.

I want to say that he was a great friend that I admired immensely and that I miss him very much but that would be a terribly stupid comment.

He was a person of great stature and his work, wherever it can be found, is a wonderful testament to someone who died far too early... probably because his standards were so very high.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Barbara
Date: 23 Oct 98 - 02:35 AM

Yes, I heard him once live, and I remember. I also recall I'd never heard a Brit "do" a US accent before, and I remember thinking, 'Do we really sound THAT bad?'.
I heard about it when he died, and I too regret his passing.
I see that 'Transports' is available from CDNow, so will pick that one up. One other seems to be available from Camsco in Vermont - Both Sides Then. And they have The Holly Bears a Crown by the YOung Tradition.
If anyone finds anything else extant, I'd like to hear. Thank you all for your help.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From:
Date: 23 Oct 98 - 08:50 AM

I think I saw 'Both Sides Then' (1979) on CD somewhere ... It contains Barbaree, The Trees They Do Grow High, The Lord Will Provide, The Gallant Frigate Amphitrite, A-Roving On A Winter's Night, Derry Gaol, Long Time Travelling, The Shepherd of the Downs, The Housecarpenter, When I Die, Edmund In the Lowlands, Around Cape Horn, The Turfman From Ardee, Amazing Grace (with a tune different from the usual one). And it boasts Anthea Bellamy, Lou Killen, Bill Shute & Lisa Null, The Watersons, Dave Swarbrick, and Royston and Heather Wood as session musicians, as well as a great cover. Hope you'll find it. - Susanne

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Dan Keding
Date: 23 Oct 98 - 12:19 PM

Both Sides Then is a great album. I saw Peter a few months before he died and got two cassettes that he was selling at the time. One was "Peter Belamy:an Anthology of Traditional Folk Songs 1966-1990". The other one was called "Peter Bellamy: an Anthomolgy of Rudyard Kipling Songs 1970-1990" Both are double length cassettes. Some of the cuts are from old radio shows, previous albums, and live performances. Great stuff! I have a feeling that these tapes were put out by Peter and that they may not be available anymore. Dan

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Oct 98 - 11:34 PM

The tape he sold me..(best thing he ever did..*grin*) was called "Fair Annie" with Chris Birch..cheap printed paper cassette label...has 'The Dockyard Gate'..'Down by thr Green Groves'..The Molecatcher'...Conversation with Death'...'Down the Moor'...'Bluey Brink'...'Santa Fe Trail'...'Maid of Australia'...'Shepherds Arise'...'Bungaree'...'Fair Annie'....'The Liburn Lass'...and 'The Lone Pilgram'....I have 4 or 5 records and the "Transports " folk opera....what a talent..!!

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: richardw
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 09:10 PM

I'm looking for Peter Bellamy's Soldiers Three, 1990 and Barrack Room Ballads.

On one web site it says these can be ordered from Jenny Bellamy. But gives no contact information.

Anyone know how to contact her or order his older recordings?

Richard Wright

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Abby Sale
Date: 10 Nov 00 - 10:29 PM

I've been listening to one or the most fiendish god-awful records I've ever come across, Peter Bellamy's Wake the Vaulted Echoes (Free Reed - 3 CDs, 1999)

I previously only had the one Bellamy record, Fox Jumps Over the Parson's Gate from 1970 ago. That was ok as I had plenty of time to really get all its subtilties over the past 30 year.

This sucker is a different matter - at 3 full-up CDs (3-1/2 hours) it may take me years to digest the whole thing. I keep listening repeatedly & then I have to listen again. Who's got the time?

I cannot recommend that anyone here contact Camsco (1/3 the price I've seen it for elsewhere) and get it or that any Europeans contact "Free Reed Music" - http://www.free-reed.co.uk/ [Do Brits consider themselves 'Europeans' these days?]

Anyway, in spite of nearly 60 songs and a 70-page booklet, they left out "Frankie's Trade" which I've only heard by (Geoff Kaufman maybe) of the Mystic Seaport Chanteymen but noone else. Now that's a brilliant song & not even on the record. So there you are - don't bother with it. Well, there are 10 or so other Kipling songs including the terrifying "Looking Glass" but that just proves the point.

Excuse me - gotta go. I wanted to hear a couple of songs on CD-1 again & make sure I heard them quite right.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Snuffy
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 06:42 AM

I have a tape called "The Rest of The Young Tradition - Odds & Ends/Live in Pennsylvania" which has several shanties on it (but no Roll Alabama). They are:

• Chicken on a Raft (Cyril Tawney)
• Randy Dandy-O
• Fire Marengo
• Hanging Johnny
• Bring 'Em Down
• Haul on the Bowline

The sleeve says these were released on an EP (remember them?) in 1967. There are also 7 tracks from an unreleased LP with Shirley & Dolly Collins 1969 and 7 tracks recorded live at the mainpoint in 68 or 69

Wassail! V

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Garry Gillard
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 07:11 AM

My not very good Young Tradition page has some links which will take you to more interesting Peter Bellamy stuff.

hth, Garry

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Micca
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 08:19 AM

Here are what is listed at Amazon Uk at this date...(the titles seperated by a / are the original release albums on vinyl)anyone in the US having probs PM me and we might be able to make arrangements.. UK Releases: Young Tradition
Galleries/No Relation by Young Tradition/Royston & Heather Wood
Essential (Audio CD)Our Price: £8.99
The Holly Bears the Crown by Young Tradition
Released 1999 Fledg'ling (Audio CD) Our Price: £9.99
Young Tradition/So Cheerfully Round by Young Tradition
Essential (Audio Cd)Our Price: £8.99
UK Releases: PeterBellamy
The Transports by Peter Bellamy Topic (Audio CD) Our Price: £8.99
Imports:
Wake the Vaulted Echoes [BOX SET] [IMPORT] by Peter Bellamy
Released 2000 Free Reed (Audio CD) £23.99

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: BDtheQB
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 09:00 AM

Just like many other passed on artists, I never appreciated them when active but now that they are gone I get more interested in what they did than ever before. Peter, for example was an interesting voice on the local folkradio station here but I never realized until recently how prolific he was. Now, of course, it is too late to give him his due in person. I will, however, continue to show my support for his body of work. The local folk radio station had him on live many times and one of the on-airs here sang at his funeral. Strange connections in the global village-- You can listen to this station at www.kdhx.org if you wish and can email Judy Stein of the Family Reunion Peter's longtime friend if you wish to know anything about his music.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,(Edgar A. GUEST)--Art Thieme
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 10:36 AM

The cassettes that Dan Keding speaks of were fine compilations. Peter told me he couldn't get hold of the rights to the recordings at all and was running them off on his own boom box to get something, anything, to sell at his concerts and at festivals. It was a sad situation...

There is a fine single CD compilation listed in the most recent CRITIC'S CHOICE catalogue--out of Itaska, Illinois. It seems to've deleted itself from my house at the present moment but I'll keep looking for it. I do recall there were things from The Transports on it--Kipling songs also. I was hoping that if I marked it in the catalogue someone would give it to me for Christmas.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 01:15 PM

Well, I WAS WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The CD is NOT from Critic's Choice.

And it is the 3-CD set previously mentioned by Abby Sale!!!!

This Peter Bellamy CD set that I saw in the recent catalogue can be had from

ELDERLY INSTRUMENTS in Lansing, Michigan
the label is FREE Reed--CD 14
title: WAKE THE VAULTED ECHOS--A CELEBRATION OF PETER BELLAMY

It covers Peter's entire career and includes songs with the Young Tradition and Lou Killen and ones from hie ballad-opera "The Transports".
Also: a 72 page booklet

I don't know who put this out but I'm left wondering if Bob Blackman in Lansing had a hand in it's production!??

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 01:49 PM

I don't know about Bob Blackman, but the CD was put together by Free Reed Records of Derbyshire UK (largely, Neil Wayne), the company that originally released "The Transports".  There's a review, with soundclips, at Rootsworld:  http://www.rootsworld.com/reviews/bellamy99.html

Free Reed's own information page on the CD is here:  Wake The Vaulted Echoes  and includes text from the accompanying booklet, a full discography (including Peter's own "bootlegs") and much more.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Anglo
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 02:02 PM

The CD compilation was largely the work of Nigel Schofield, a close friend of Peter in his Yorkshire period, who also happened to have a recording studio. In the absence of Neil Wayne (otherwise engaged hosting a rugby club dinner, as I understand it) Nigel came to the Old Songs Festival (Altamont NY) last summer where he hosted and participated in a number of informative workshops celebrating Peter's career. Heather Wood (ex-Young Tradition) was a major participant. Sorry you all missed it.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Long Firm Freddie
Date: 11 Nov 00 - 06:13 PM

I had the privilege of seeing Peter Bellamy performing live. He was electric.

His highly mannered singing style was encapsulated in an entry for an "Appropriate Anagrams" competition in Folk Roots (now just fRoots) magazine. Some inspired wit shuffled the letters of Peter's name around to coin the entirely apt "Elmer P Bleaty".

LFF

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: richardw
Date: 12 Nov 00 - 07:06 PM

All these great sites on Peter's work but none of them say where to contact Jenny Bellamy who evidently has some of hsi early material.

Richard

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: lamarca
Date: 12 Nov 00 - 08:34 PM

Here's a really good site and complete discography for Peter Bellamy. My husband and I sing a lot of his Kipling settings, having both been Kipling fans from our mis-spent youths. Some of his LPs have been re-released on CD, but not all...

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GeorgeH
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 07:18 AM

The unreleased Belamy stuff lies languishing in the vaults of Celtic Music (Harrogate, Yorkshire) . . See any thread on Nic Jones for further info, or recent thread on Bob Fox and Stu Luckley, or do a deja news search for "Dave Bulmer" (usual expletives deleted).

As far as I know, all the Young Tradition material is available on CD, plus The Transports (which is Belamy's creation rather than his performance; "all-star cast" will cover it), the Topic recording of "Both Sides Then" (stunning version of "Amazing Grace") and the Free Reed box set which Abby reviews so well . .

As I recall, the final time we saw him "live" (when we, too, bought the "Fair Annie" tape) he commented that he'd had problems with the owners of the copyright of Kipling's work in getting permission to record his arrangements of the poems, which is why few of them made it to vinyl.

Oh, and we also had the great pleasure of seeing one of the few live performances of "The Transports" . . which was even better than the recording.

G.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Anglo
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 12:16 PM

richardw, you can reach Jenny at,

"Jenny Bellamy"

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: richardw
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 12:32 PM

Anglo;

I am not sure what you mean by "Jenny Bellamy"

Tried a search on that on the web and got nothing meaningful.

Can you tell me more?

Thanks

Richard

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Anglo
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:00 PM

Oops, sorry I thought I posted the email address but I guess it was in html brackets so it probably disappeared off somewhere into cyberspace.

[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: mousethief
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:11 PM

Forgive my ignorance but is he one of the Bellamy Brothers who had a string of folk-rockish hits in the early 1970's? Or another Bellamy entirely?

Chocolate is bliss. Ignorance isn't even a close second.
Alex
O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: richardw
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 07:03 PM

Thanks Anglo;

Mudcat comes through once again.

Richard http://goldrushbc.com

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GeorgeH
Date: 17 Nov 00 - 07:16 AM

Never heard of the Bellamy Brothers so I'd guess someone entirely different . . but you should be able to tell that from the links here.

Never could understand "folk-rockish" but I wouldn't have said it applied to Peter . .

On the other hand, heard some guy busking on Concertina in Cambridge (UK) city centre a year or so back, and his playing sounded REMARKABLY like Peter's (I'm sure I'd have been disillusioned had he started to sing . .)

G.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Anglo
Date: 17 Nov 00 - 09:59 AM

Yes the Bellamy brothers are someone else entirely.

The Spinners (excuse the pocket description, but they were sort of like an English Kingston Trio, very popular for 30 years) were also different from The Spinners (soul band).

In England, with musicians union rules and such, the latter had to call themselves the Detroit Spinners; in the US the british folkies became the Liverpool Spinners.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,Les from Hull at work
Date: 17 Nov 00 - 11:36 AM

The 'Wake the Vaulted Echoes' that Abby mentions contains material not available from other sources. I suppose the assuption is that Bellamyphiles would have the Young Tradition stuff (still available on CD I believe, heavily discounted like so much of that old Transatlantic stuff) and Kipling stuff (I remember that Pete, after struggling with the lack of output from Celtic Music was reduced to 'bootlegging himself'. I'm sure you can still (and should) get 'The Transports' on Topic - it's inspirational stuff. One Whitby Folk Week many years ago (you can't get the wood you know!) there was an anagram competition. We'll never forget the Peter Bellamy came out as Elmer P. Bleaty.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Nov 00 - 12:02 PM

You can get all of 'em (plus some possibly helpful advice) from Camsco. E-mail queries to [e-mail])

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: richardw
Date: 29 Jan 01 - 07:50 PM

For those that might be interested I just received a copy of "The Widow's Uniform by Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman and others. It is a CD of 16 of Kipling's Barrackroom Ballads "as set to music by Perter Bellamy" I ordered it directly from Dane and Anni at: oldandnewtradition.com

e-mail is [e-mail]

It's great stuff, particularly if you are a Kipling fan.

Richard Wright

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,nigel schofield
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 07:16 AM

I am currently working with Free Reed on a 25th anniversary reissue of The Transports (OK its actual release will be a year or so late)and am hoping to track down all released cover versions of songs from the ballad opera. If you know of any (and I have about a dozen already) please contact me at [e-mail]. More information about the re-issue which will include new material, a second CD, libretto, book and poster will shortly emerge from Free Reed's Belper offices.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: pavane
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 07:43 AM

Agreed that Fair Annie is excellent, but it was a limited edition cassette. I also saw Peter, Anthea and Chris Birch in concert in Luxembourg, (in 1984, I think it was) and they performed several of the songs fom Keep on Kipling, which had just been released.
(Chris lives in Luxembourg)

I also had the chance to accompany him on harmonica at a private party, when he played blues guitar - rather unexpectedly.

I do have a copy of 'The Fox jumps over the Parsons Gate' but I think that like a lot of his stuff, it was 'Bulmerised' and unlikely to be available as a re-release in the near future (if ever)

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: johnross
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 12:38 PM

When Peter autographed my copy of The Transports, he added a flag to the top mast of the ship. The flag says "QANTAS".

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: BB
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 02:15 PM

Fellside have released a double album for single album price in their 25th Anniversary recordings called 'Mr Bellamy, Mr Kipling & the tradition', which includes the two classic albums, 'Keep on Kipling' and Songs an' Rummy Conjurin' Tricks'. They can be obtained through Fellside's website, or from us at Umber Music. http://www.umbermusic.co.uk

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: BB
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 02:17 PM

Hey, the make a link thing worked - first time I've done it! Thanks, Mudcat, for putting it in!

Barbara

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Skipper Jack
Date: 16 Oct 02 - 04:14 PM

No one seems to have mentioned Peter Bellamy's album "Second Wind" produced by the EFDSS (English Folk Dance and Song Society)in 1985.

I have the LP, but I know whether a CD version is a available?

The only others I have are of the Young Tradition - "Galleries" and a "Young Tradition Sampler".

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 07:35 AM

I think the Young Tradition made 3 LP's, of which Galleries is the best known. I can't remember the others, but one MAY have been 'So cheerfully round' which is the name of one of the songs.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Crane Driver
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 05:49 PM

"The Alabama" is one of a set of three shanties (along with "Won't You Go My Way?" and "A Hundred Years Ago" sung by Peter and Louis Killen on Peter's 1972 album "Won't You Go My Way?", recorded live in Norwich, and put out by Argo, part of Decca (ZFB 37). (I got it, I got it)

Contains two Bellamy compositions ("Testimonial" and "Above the Hill"), one tin whistle solo, Cyril Tawney's "Monday Morning", and a number of trad songs including "Butter & Cheese & All", "Spencer the Rover" and "Yarmouth Town". All great stuff.

Andrew

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: RolyH
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 06:00 PM

Yes Skipper
"Second Wind" is a good album.Peter Bellamy and his unique squeezebox style.None better than his version of "The Exile Song"

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,Nigel Schofield
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 05:28 PM

Just so's you know - the remastered, boxed double CD Silver Anniversary edition of Peter Bellamy's Transports will be released by Free Reed in the next couple of months. Aside from the remaster of the original album it contains a second CD of new and classic recordings of the songs by a whole host of friends and famous folkies. There is also an extensive book which deals with the history of The Transports album and also with the historical events surrounding it

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Margaret V
Date: 04 Aug 03 - 10:38 PM

Thanks for the info, Nigel, maybe it's good I never got around to ordering it previously! Margaret (who has been busily singing "The Leaves in the Woodland" this evening)

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,nigel schofield
Date: 28 Aug 03 - 04:29 PM

There were actually 4 YT LPs - though the Xmas album waited years and eventually came out on CD - plus an EP and a single

I produced Second Wind - a delightful project in which to be involed: so far as I know there are no plans to issue it on CD and last time I checked the master tapes were missing.

Leaves in the woodland, eh ? nice to see it on the new June Tabor best of....version on new set is a stunning arrangement by Grace Notes

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From:
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:59 AM

I had the pleasure of staying at the Black Gate of Newcastle's castle in 1971, with Stefan & Liz Sobel. Peter came & stayed there as well for a week.
Great times. Relaxing at " home " he always preferred playing blues, and accompanying himself quite expertly on guitar. On his last day with us, he let me record a song he wrote called the "Valley of the Stookie" concerning his experiences finding archeological artifacts like Roman coins, and Saxon bones on his family's farm.   
Did he ever record this anywhere else ?? Riggy

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings+advert.
From: Folkiedave
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 03:26 PM

I have some of the original YT recordings on vinyl + Transports at the usual inexpensive rates for those into vinyl or collecting. Jenny Bellamy is a lovely lady and can often be found singing carols at Dungworth.

See www.collectors folk.co.uk


Dave

Subject: Lyr Add: Fair Annie (as sung by Peter Bellamy)
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 06:46 PM

FAIR ANNIE

    Comb back your hair, Fair Annie, he said
    Comb it back into your crown
    For you must live a maiden's life
    When I bring my new bride home.

    Oh, how can I look maidenlike
    When maiden I am none?
    For six fair sons have I had by you
    And a seventh coming on?

    Oh, you will bake my bread, he said,
    And you will keep my home
    And you will welcome my lady gay
    When I bring my bridal home.

    And on the door he hung a silken towel
    Hung by a silver pin
    That Fair Annie, she might wipe her eyes
    As she went out and in.

    Now, six months gone, and nine comin' on
    And she thought the time o'er-long
    So she's taken a spyglass all in her hand
    And up to the tower she has run.

    She has look-ed east, she has look-ed west
    She has looked all under the sun,
    And who should she see but Lord Thomas
    All a-bringin' of his bridal home.

    So she has called for her seven sons
    By one, by two, by three
    And she has said to her eldest son
    Oh, come tell me what you see.

    So he's look-ed east, he has look-ed west,
    He has looked all under the sun
    And who should he see but his father dear,
    He was bringin' of his new bride home.

    So it's, Shall I dress in green? she said,
    Or shall I dress in black?
    Or shall I go down to the ragin' main
    And send my soul to wrack?

    Oh, you need not dress in green, he said,
    Nor you need not dress in black
    But throw you wide the great hall door
    And welcome my father back.

    So it's Welcome home, Lord Thomas, she said,
    And You're welcome unto me.
    And welcome, welcome, your merry men all
    That you've brought across the sea.

    And she's serv-ed them with the best of the wine;
    Yes, she's serv-ed them all 'round
    But she's drunk water from the well
    For to keep her spirits down.

    And she's wait-ed upon them all the livelong day,
    And she thought the time o'er-long.
    And she's taken her flute all in her hand
    And up to her bower she has run.

    She has fluted east, she has fluted west,
    She has fluted loud and shrill.
    She wished that her sons were seven greyhounds
    And her a wolf on the hill.

    Then, Come downstairs, the new bride said,
    Oh, come down the stairs to me.
    And tell me the name of your father dear,
    And I'll tell mine to thee.

    Well, King Douglas,it was my father's name
    And Queen Chatryn was my mother
    And Sweet Mary, she was my sister dear
    And Prince Henry was my brother.

    If King Douglas, it is your father's name
    And Queen Chatryn is your mother
    Then I'm sure that I'm your sister dear
    As Prince Henry, he is your brother.

    And I have seven ships out on the sea
    They are loaded to the brim
    And six of them will I give to you
    And one more to carry me home.

    Yes, six of them will I give to you
    When we've had Lord Thomas burned!

As sung by Peter Bellamy on Wake the Vaulted Echoes

DRO

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: pavane
Date: 04 Sep 03 - 05:06 PM

Fair Annie was also on the cassette 'Fair Annie' - not surprising, I suppose.

Yes, when I met Peter in Luxembourg, he also played blues. I was trying to accompany on blues harp, but he strayed too far from 12 bar and I got lost!

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: pavane
Date: 14 Feb 05 - 11:49 AM

Some info

The Fair Annie cassette has now been released as part of a double CD of recordings by Peter Bellamy. This was originally a limited-edition cassette, which has long been a favourite of mine.

Track list here

(Dave Swarbrick plays fiddle on Maids of Australia)

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: del boy
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 02:47 PM

could any one tell me what chords for fair annie iv got it in D , but its not wright i think maybe G

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: cptsnapper
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 09:10 PM

It would be nice if someone could re-release " Won't You Go My Way ", the live album which Peter made with Louis Killen in 1972.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Reinhard
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 05:51 AM

Fellside has now re-issued Peter Bellamy's first three LPs (Mainly Norfolk, Fair England's Shore, The Fox Jumps over the Parson's Gate) as a double CD called Fair England's Shore.

Reinhard

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 06:13 AM

And it's been nominated at one of FRoots's Cds of the year in the "Best Re-issue" category:

FRoots critics' poll

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 06:43 AM

And you can still see my wee film which unites Peter's recording of The Fox Jumps Over the Parson's Gate with the Randolph Caldecott picture book that inspired it: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NhQMsONIwng

Note: the recording here is sourced from the original vinyl long before there was ever a whisper of a CD reissue in any shape or form.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,Peadar (formerly) of Portsmouth
Date: 12 Jul 11 - 10:49 AM

Does anyone have updated contact information for Jenny Bellamy? We're trying to get permission for Roll Down and the email listed above isn't working.

Thanks,

Peter
www.mudhook.net

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 12 Jul 11 - 12:05 PM

Just to mention that backsleeve pic on LP Both Sides Then & photo of Anthea on Bill Shute & Lisa Null's American Primitive are credited to my late wife Valerie; & the former is, I understand, reproduced in booklet of a recent CD reissue of The Transports.

~Michael Grosvenor Myer~

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,susanc
Date: 12 Jul 11 - 01:10 PM

I am looking for the track listings on "Oak & Ash & Thorn". Apparently it has been re-released finally and I can't find what songs are on it anywhere. I'm assuming "King Richard's Song" and the title song but have no idea what the rest are.

Thanks in advance.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 12 Jul 11 - 01:31 PM

There you go, Susan:

Oak Ash Thorn tracklisting

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,Susanc
Date: 12 Jul 11 - 10:37 PM

Spleen Cringe, I knew this was the place to go to find out what was on the album. Thank's so much. I think I'll purchase it in the future.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Speedwell
Date: 13 Jul 11 - 06:37 AM

Also available now on CD is Peter Bellamy's Merlin's Isle of Gramarye - for those without record decks in their cars!

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 13 Jul 11 - 11:12 AM

BOth Oak Ash and Thorn and Merlin's Isle of Gramarye are available from CAMSCO at considerably lower prices than Amazon is charging.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 13 Jul 11 - 11:32 AM

I saw MIOG in HMV the other day for £15. Amazon are doing them for under a tenner. CAMSCO don't have it listed. Neither of the new editions have any additional material to prod the cash-strapped punter into purchase. I've mixed feelings about additional material anyway, but the Fellside reissue of Keep on Kipling was a hatchet job interpersing the original perfect album sequence with re-recordings of several of the Puck Songs; improved, perhaps, but hardly part of the sequence of what remains the finest of Bellamy's Kipling albums. He certainly he thought so. I won my vinyl copy off him at a raffle and asked him to make the choice. He handed me the deluxe vinyl edition of KOK and said it was the best thing he'd ever done, and I have to agree - although the dark chthonic allure of MIOG will never be matched in terms of ritual atmos and genuine chill. I've got one of PB's old self-bootlegged cassette editions on prominent display as a small object of veneration...

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Reinhard
Date: 13 Jul 11 - 01:29 PM

According to several stories I've read here, Bellamy seems to have used the line of the best thing he'd ever done for any album sold to any punter.

So why is the programming order on the original Keep on Kipling album perfect and the addition of further tracks a "hatchet job"? Just because it hasn't been done by God, er, Bellamy himself? I think this term is grossly inappropriate and unfair. It might have been a proper assessment if the remastering had been poorly done, but sheesh, just for adding some tracks? Why don't you just program your CD player to play the LP tracks in their original order and ignore the extra tracks?

I, for one, am very happy to have all these songs in excellent quality now.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 13 Jul 11 - 03:31 PM

point of information.
CAMSCO's website isn't always exactly up-to-date. I'm only (make that barely) human. We get $15 (US) for Merlin's Isle of Gramarye, and the same for Oak Ash and Thorn. We ship world-wide (and we can ship sans jewel cases, if you prefer, to keep shipping costs down.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 13 Jul 11 - 04:38 PM

Keep On Kipling is mostly an ensemble (trio) work and has definite feel to it from start to finish. I've no objection to the extra songs as extras after the album sequence but they don't have the same feel as the album tracks and to mix them seems to me just plain wrong somehow. And who has time to re-programme their CD player? Which ain't much use in the car.

I must add, this is a minor gripe over what is an excellent package. If you only own one PB CD, then this has to be it.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Jul 11 - 01:01 AM

==According to several stories I've read here, Bellamy seems to have used the line of the best thing he'd ever done for any album sold to any punter ====
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Ah well, that was Pete. He didn't mean it dishonestly, he thought it was true at the time. He would say the same sort of thing about his comtemp fellow singers ~~ among those I recall his declaring 'about the best of the lot of us' were Nic Jones, Martin Carthy, Mike Waterson, Paul Brady...

~Michael~

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,Reinhard
Date: 14 Jul 11 - 05:35 AM

I've just noticed on the Fellside news page an entry from last December stating "We're most definitely looking forward to 2011 with the very latest news that we've completed negotiations for [lots of other interesting albums and] Peter Bellamy's 'Barrack Room Ballads'". One more on its way to CD reissue... I would guess that this one might be available in September for the 20th anniversary of Peter Bellamy's death.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Speedwell
Date: 14 Jul 11 - 08:52 AM

Let's hope so Reinhard, it would be a great way to mark that date. Many thanx for the info. - I look forward to hearing BRB on CD.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Reinhard
Date: 22 Aug 12 - 12:59 PM

I just saw on the Fellside website that they are now selling Peter Bellamy's 'Barrack Room Ballads'. It is a double CD; the 12 tracks on the second CD seem to come from 'Soldiers Three'.

Subject: RE: Let's Talk Bellamy
From: Speedwell
Date: 31 Oct 12 - 01:56 PM

I'm trying to find a copy of Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs by Peter Bellamy. There was one on ebay a while back but I wasn't successful with my bid. Otherwise it seems to be pretty much unattainable. Anyone any ideas? Thanks in advance.

Subject: seek: Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Aug 13 - 07:54 PM

I got an e-mail from somebody seeking a 1989 Peter Bellamy album titled Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs.

There are several Bellamy albums available on Spotify, and I think I have a couple Bellamy recordings of his arrangements of Kipling poems, but that name doesn't sound familiar.

One is a 2012 album titled "Peter Bellamy Sings the Barrack-Room Ballads of Rudyard Kipling" - I don't know what albums these are drawn from. The other is a 2001 album titled "Mr. Bellamy, Mr. Kipling, & the Tradition." It includes two complete earlier albums, "Keep On Kipling" and "Songs an' Rummy Conjurin' Tricks."

This link might help: http://www.slipcue.com/music/international/celtic/artists/bellamy.html

Also look at this one from Mudcatter Reinhard Zierke:
http://mainlynorfolk.info/peter.bellamy/records/rudyardkiplingmadeexceedinglygoodsongs.html

Also see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bellamy

No definite info on Exceedingly Good Songs, but it's a start.

So, back to the original question: Is Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs available on CD or MP3??

-Joe-

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Here is track information from Reinhard Zierke's Website:

Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs
Peter Bellamy

Dambuster Records DAM 019 (LP, UK, 1989)

Recorded by Nigel Schofield;
Cover design by Peter Bellamy, based on a woodcut which appeared on the cover of The Bookman magazine in January 1903.

Musicians

Peter Bellamy, vocals [1-14], concertina [1, 3, 6];
Jamie O'Dwyer, fiddle [1, 6, 9, 11];
Sharon and the Students, harmony vocals [14];
Jim Ellison, vocals [7, 13]

Tracks

Side 1	Side 2
Back to the Army Again (1894) (4.46) Big Steamers (1911) (2.27) (1919) (1.54) The Prodigal Son (1901) (2.20) The Roman Centurion's Song (1911) (3.43) We Have Fed Our Sea (1896) (3.23)	The Dutch in the Medway (1911) (2.30) A Song to Mithras (1906) (2.03) En-Dor (1919) (2.50) Heriot's Ford (1891) (2.08) The Anvil (1911) (1.02) The Wet Litany (1904) (2.41) Thorkild's Song (1906) (2.05) Recessional (1897) (2.42)

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Aug 13 - 09:11 PM

There are five Peter Bellamy albums available at Spotify.com. I thinkl Spotify offers free membership in most areas, but there are limitations and commercials. I pay five bucks a month and get unlimited usage.

The albums available are:

• Peter Bellamy Sings the Barrack-Room Ballads of Rudyard Kipling (2012)-24 tracks
  
• Fair Annie & Peter Bellamy (2004)-33 tracks (2 CDs)
  
• Mr Bellamy, Mr Kipling & the Tradition (2001)-41 tracks (2 CDs)
  
• Both Sides Then (1979)-15 tracks
  
• The Fox Jumps Over the Parson's Gate (1970)

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Reinhard
Date: 04 Aug 13 - 12:49 AM

"Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs" is a Dambuster album. Therefore, like Bellamy's Trailer album "Tell It Like It Was", it is very unlikely to appear on CD in the near future.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Aug 13 - 01:09 AM

It should be pointed out for such abroad &c who might not get the reference, that the title of that album was a play on a well-known UK advertising slogan of the time for Mr Kipling's Cakes, "Mr Kipling makes exceedingly good cakes": a slogan obviously expressed in faux-simple terms to give a period feel back to the great days of Empire, of which the brand name itself was presumably supposed also to be redolent.

~M~

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Aug 13 - 01:13 AM

... They are btw still a popular item on the market, produced by Premier Foods.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Artful Codger
Date: 04 Aug 13 - 01:28 AM

FWIW, the songs on Mr Bellamy, Mr Kipling & the Tradition originally came from the albums Keep on Kipling (Fellside FE032, 1982) and Songs an' Rummy Conjurin' Tricks (Fellside FSC 5, 1990). The title for the latter (his last completed and released album) is taken from a line in "Cholera Camp". Some additional tracks are also included:

Our Fathers of Old
Way Through the Woods
Sir Richard's Song
Brookland Road
The Looking Glass
Cold Iron
Philadelphia
Peggy Bawn
The Whale Catchers

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Aug 13 - 03:13 AM

Out of interest, just went downstairs to check packaging on our box of Mr Kipling apple pies, which I eat lots of. Packaging still carries, in fancy lettering, the slogan "Exceedingly good..." under the brand name.

~M~

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 04 Aug 13 - 03:49 AM

Always nice to see a Bellamy thread riding high on a five-knot tide... Of course the one we're all looking forward to right now is 25-track CD of the The Young Tradition live at Oberlin College on 17th November 1968 coming up in the autumn. I confess that I'm not the biggest TYT fan in the world, but this is definitely one to drool for:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Oberlin-1968-Young-Tradition/dp/B00E5U1C2Q/ref=sr_1_3/280-0590345-8957151?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1375602229&sr=1-3&keywords=the+young+tradition

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: redhorse
Date: 04 Aug 13 - 06:17 AM

Having just bought the 2-CD set The Young Tradition/So Cheerfully Round, Galleries/Chicken on a Raft to replace my vinyl YT collection, I'll certainly be getting the Oberlin CD.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 04 Aug 13 - 06:47 AM

To replace your vinyl? My goodness! Vinyl is the pure medium of this music (Stones in my Passway notwithstanding) - something the CD can maybe enhance by way of convenience, but never replace.

I must say, I'm still waiting for the definitive Bellamy collection. Wake the Vaulted Echoes was imperfect in all sorts of ways, but hinted at what might be possible. If only the focus was on his cultural significance to the cause of music, instead of this rather irksome Folk thing which got in the way of his genius and - ultimately, tragically - rejected and killed him.

Any news on the Maritime England Suite? I've got some corking versions but the nearest I've got to anything official is Bellamy's own appallingly edited self-bootleg. My favourite all-time Bellamy song is his setting of Kathleen Tardif's poem The Tea Clipper which actually cuts out on the Bellamy Bootleg.

Maybe the moment has passed?

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: pavane
Date: 04 Aug 13 - 11:50 AM

I will be looking out for Oberlin too.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Reinhard
Date: 04 Aug 13 - 02:58 PM

"Rudyard Kipling Made Exceedingly Good Songs" is a Dambuster album. Therefore, like Bellamy's Trailer album "Tell It Like It Was", it is very unlikely to appear on CD in the near future.

Well, with the apparent death of Dave Bulmer everything is possible in the not-so-near future...

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,jfr66
Date: 04 Apr 18 - 10:58 PM

any development with getting EXCEEDINGLY GOOD SONGS to cd ?

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Hagman
Date: 05 Apr 18 - 08:27 PM

Not that I'm aware of. It may be some time. Likewise the Green Linnet US LP - guess the tapes have gone.

Perhaps someone could talk to the EFDSS about "Second Wind" from 1985 - but assume that conversation has been ongoing?

(Bellamy/Kipling fans who are not aware of the four-hour FM radio program PB made about Kippers when he was Down Here in Oz in the early 80ies are advised to PM for more info and links. No ball-tampering guaranteed....)

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 08 Apr 18 - 05:01 PM

I have been communicating with Warren Fahey about Peter Bellamy's visit to Oz. Over the years Warren sponsored a number of Brit. and Irish folk artistes down under to appear in his Folk Song series at the Sydney Opera House. Tapes of these as made by the ABC have survived such as of Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger, and also Joe Heaney. But Warren said that the Peter Bellamy tapes simply disappeared. I'm sure that he would be interested in any recordings made by PB whilst he was down under.

Meanwhile I have FLAC versions of PB's "Maritime Suite" from the original FM airing on Folk on Two. The site from which these were obtained has now gone so effectively I have the only copies. I have offered these to Fellside Records but got no response.

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,warren Fahey
Date: 08 Apr 18 - 06:25 PM

I believe David Mulhallen - the most active folk producer at the ABC for many years, took the masters of most live recordings. I saw them once, over a decade ago, - a mountain of them - but David disappeared. Anyone know where he is? Warren fahey [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 09 Apr 18 - 03:56 AM

Downloads of Maritime Suite in various guises formats and qualities may be found here:

/mudcat.org//thread.cfm?threadid=133600#3032924

The worst upload is on YouTube apparently from one of PB's cassettes. It needs deleting.

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I fixed your link and deleted subsequent attempts. The Blickifier works fine, but somehow, you got an extra "/" added to the address. --Mod

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Hagman
Date: 09 Apr 18 - 09:13 AM

>Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
>From: GUEST,CJB - PM
>Date: 08 Apr 18 - 05:01 PM

>I have been communicating with Warren Fahey about Peter Bellamy's visit to Oz. Over the years Warren sponsored a number of Brit. and Irish folk artistes down under to appear in his Folk Song series at the Sydney Opera House. Tapes of these as made by the ABC have survived such as of Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger, and also Joe Heaney. But Warren said that the Peter Bellamy tapes simply disappeared. I'm sure that he would be interested in any recordings made by PB whilst he was down under.

>
>

I have very good quality tapes of the Bellamy programs made with Mulhullan from off-air ABC-FM, as I have mentioned above.

These include:

* Four one-hour programs on Kipling - Bellamy interviewed by Mulhullan    and illustrated with cuts from the Argo records

* An interview with PB

* Concert from Sydney Opera House with PB and Shirley Collins, separately and together.

PM for details.

(Bellamy toured Australia twice, to my knowledge - the above tour with Shirley Collins, and once solo. No known recordings of the solo tour have surfaced.)

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: DaveRo
Date: 09 Apr 18 - 12:11 PM

CJB's link from 2 posts back: thread.cfm?threadid=133600#3032924

Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: GUEST,Brian Grayson
Date: 10 Apr 18 - 10:29 AM

[Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
From: Hagman
Date: 09 Apr 18 - 09:13 AM

>Subject: RE: Peter Bellamy recordings?
>From: GUEST,CJB - PM
>Date: 08 Apr 18 - 05:01 PM

>I have been communicating with Warren Fahey about Peter Bellamy's visit to Oz. Over the years Warren sponsored a number of Brit. and Irish folk artistes down under to appear in his Folk Song series at the Sydney Opera House. Tapes of these as made by the ABC have survived such as of Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger, and also Joe Heaney. But Warren said that the Peter Bellamy tapes simply disappeared. I'm sure that he would be interested in any recordings made by PB whilst he was down under.

>
>

I have very good quality tapes of the Bellamy programs made with Mulhullan from off-air ABC-FM, as I have mentioned above.

These include:

* Four one-hour programs on Kipling - Bellamy interviewed by Mulhullan    and illustrated with cuts from the Argo records

* An interview with PB

* Concert from Sydney Opera House with PB and Shirley Collins, separately and together.

PM for details.

(Bellamy toured Australia twice, to my knowledge - the above tour with Shirley Collins, and once solo. No known recordings of the solo tour have surfaced.)]

I'd dearly love to get hold of copies of the above - I knew Peter in the UK in the 70s, and saw him for the last time in Ontario, where he sold me a copy of the 'Fair Annie' cassette. I was out of Australia at the time of the Oz recordings. Please?

Brian Grayson
[e-mail]