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BS: casual sex anyone??

Sam L 28 Mar 03 - 03:01 PM
NicoleC 28 Mar 03 - 02:58 PM
Lyrical Lady 28 Mar 03 - 02:09 PM
DougR 28 Mar 03 - 02:06 PM
GUEST,Forum Lurker 28 Mar 03 - 01:59 PM
katlaughing 28 Mar 03 - 01:55 PM
Sandy Creek 28 Mar 03 - 01:55 PM
Don Firth 28 Mar 03 - 01:24 PM
harpgirl 28 Mar 03 - 01:05 PM
catspaw49 28 Mar 03 - 12:02 PM
Alasdair 28 Mar 03 - 11:15 AM
*daylia* 28 Mar 03 - 11:13 AM
GUEST 28 Mar 03 - 11:12 AM
GUEST,Shakey Joe 28 Mar 03 - 11:11 AM
curmudgeon 28 Mar 03 - 11:10 AM
Willie-O 28 Mar 03 - 11:06 AM
Alasdair 28 Mar 03 - 11:02 AM
GUEST,Shakey Joe 28 Mar 03 - 10:58 AM
MMario 28 Mar 03 - 10:57 AM
Mooh 28 Mar 03 - 10:54 AM
Mrrzy 28 Mar 03 - 10:52 AM
GUEST 28 Mar 03 - 10:48 AM
Stilly River Sage 28 Mar 03 - 10:38 AM
*daylia* 28 Mar 03 - 10:38 AM
Sandy Creek 28 Mar 03 - 10:37 AM
Alasdair 28 Mar 03 - 10:34 AM
Peg 28 Mar 03 - 10:32 AM
GUEST,Foe 28 Mar 03 - 10:31 AM
Alasdair 28 Mar 03 - 10:28 AM
GUEST,Shakey joe 28 Mar 03 - 10:27 AM
GUEST,Shakey Joe 28 Mar 03 - 10:26 AM
Stilly River Sage 28 Mar 03 - 10:25 AM
Dave Bryant 28 Mar 03 - 10:22 AM
*daylia* 28 Mar 03 - 10:15 AM
GUEST,Casual Observer 28 Mar 03 - 10:09 AM
*daylia* 28 Mar 03 - 10:08 AM
Bullfrog Jones 28 Mar 03 - 10:07 AM
Alasdair 28 Mar 03 - 09:57 AM
CarolC 28 Mar 03 - 09:52 AM
*daylia* 28 Mar 03 - 09:51 AM
Alasdair 28 Mar 03 - 09:51 AM
Sandy Creek 28 Mar 03 - 09:49 AM
GUEST,Shakey Joe 28 Mar 03 - 09:45 AM
catspaw49 28 Mar 03 - 09:42 AM
Alasdair 28 Mar 03 - 09:42 AM
*daylia* 28 Mar 03 - 09:36 AM
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CarolC 28 Mar 03 - 09:23 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Sam L
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 03:01 PM

You know, I hear people say that friendship and sex don't work, but I don't get it, I agree with Dave Bryant up there, I think nothing works better. Usually the ambitions for something grander than friendship are an alibi for commiting to something far less--some sort of narcissistic-projection disease of one's brain. I think people must mean "friendship" and sex don't work--somebody has to want something else in there, that messes it up.

I've been having casual sex for more than twenty years with my best friend--it was only serious a couple of times, 8 years ago, and six.

SJ, good luck, and remember, most likely you're just lumber and drywall and stuff, so she can build her own guy. Nothing wrong with a little remodeling, for most of us. But for ambitious projects I recommend women get a guy in high school. That's not sarcasm, it's my life.


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: NicoleC
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 02:58 PM

I'm all for (safe) friendly sex when both (or all) parties involved are after the same thing and can discuss it with no reservations. All that stuff about how emotionally weak an susceptible women are and how they're dying to have babies is a stereotype, not a universal truth.

But if she's bonkers, man, DON'T DO IT!

It's very possible she won't or can't make a rational choice about sex, and not only are you going to look like the the bad guy if it turns out badly, you WILL be the bad guy. It's not sporting to take advantage of the fruity just to get your kicks, not matter how willing they think they are.

Find a different "friend."


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 02:09 PM

The trouble I see with having casual sex is that the emotional makeup of a woman causes her to become attached once the act has been completed. IMO... men don't tend to react this way. Especially seeing as the woman is in her late twenties! The hormones tend to kick in and the response turns to "MAKE ME PREGNANT"! I honestly don't think it's possible for women to have casual sex... they may say they are into it... but sometimes they go along with it just to "set the hook". If you're not into a relationship than I think you'd be better off with Mrs. Thumb and her four daughters! Having sex with someone changes everything... only a very strong friendship can survive the emotional consequences. Besides, if you really don't care for this person, it won't be a very satisfying experience for you, IMO.

LL


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: DougR
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 02:06 PM

Just a word of caution (that I'm surprised not one else has mentioned)if she is casual with you, how many casualties may she have left in her wake? It would appear to me, Joe, that she might wonder the same about you! Ever heard of AIDS? :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST,Forum Lurker
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 01:59 PM

catspaw49-If you call it a freedom tickler, you can always claim it's your patriotic duty.


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 01:55 PM

Just don't take a cue from the shrub and pull out for fear of failure like he did with the UN! His poor wife!

Actually, honesty is THE best way to be about any of it. When I used to go out alone if a guy chatted me up or asked to buy me a drink I made it very clear what he could or could not expect. Usually I would just say, you may buy me that drink or, yes, I'll dance with you, but I will NOT fuck you for it! I never had one of them get upset. To a man they were pleasantly surprised to find someone who was up front about it. I hated all the little games people would play with one another; spending all night buying drinks and dancing, wondering if they would or wouldn't!

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Sandy Creek
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 01:55 PM

My God, You MudCatters Are Hot! But top this:

When I was 16 (late 50's) the family loaded up in the old Woody Wagon and headed for Grannie's house out in the country for the annual family reunion. One of my far removed cousins, Sara, (also 16) HAD GROWN UP in a year. We made whoopee EVERYWHERE. To my delight she was allowed to spend two weeks at our house (with my 15 year old sister). YES! We left Grannie's about nine o'clock that night and piled in the old Woody whereas my cousin ended up in the back/back seat with me and my two sisters (there was 10 in my family). Sara ended up on my lap and somehow her sundress worked ir self up and her______ somehow came off and my__________ ended up in her_________. What a great ride. Needless to say my sisters held this over my head for years but they never told on us. My God, what a wonderful two weeks and what a wonderful memory. Fortunately we did not make any babies. Think I will give Sara a call.......


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 01:24 PM

I'm never casual about sex. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: harpgirl
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 01:05 PM

...personally, I think if you are only interested in sport fucking, you should go to a professional, so as not to create more problems for an individual who may be on shakey ground herself. You sound like a self-centered idiot! Put your money where your mouth is...love, harpgirl


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 12:02 PM

I'd advise a French Tickler, but owing to the current war and the situation with the US and France, I don't know what to call it. Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast is dumb enough, but a Freedom Tickler?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Alasdair
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 11:15 AM

Daylia - maybe his tool is sufficiently massive that it stays on when floppy. could be some circulation issues there tho


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: *daylia*
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 11:13 AM

Normal, not ribbed imo Joe. The ribbed feels too, um, synthetic - kinda like a washboard. But maybe you should ask what SHE prefers, though.

And how the H*** could you arrive wearing it - watching pornos in the car on the way over or something? Or just a real vivid imagination?

Those ones that glow in the dark might be fun - and some have feathers attached too!

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 11:12 AM

just fuck her and be done with it.


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST,Shakey Joe
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 11:11 AM

no red flags. I'm away for a shower and a shave. I'll report back!!

wish me luck, I'm goin' in!


Shakey


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: curmudgeon
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 11:10 AM

If she asks you to play "Misty," run like Hell -- Tom


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Willie-O
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 11:06 AM

Ribbed or normal? You're asking the wrong folks!
Arrive wearing it? Now there's a weird fashion concept, and impractical, not to mention...a bit overconfident?

If you wanna go do it with her, be prepared, not presumptuous.

But frankly, Dear Abby tells me you're trying to get yourself talked OUT of it. Otherwised why would you be asking us?

The protocol for sex is about the same as its ever been:

You: "Do you want to? But I gotta tell you (insert anything you think someone else should tell you before having sex for the first time)"

But the business about her being "lovely but bonkers" is putting up red flags. Can't you find someone who is merely pleasant-looking, and sane?


W-O


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Alasdair
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 11:02 AM

Re: the ribbed versus normal. No idea what wimmin want in that regard. But for God's sake DON't arrive wearing it.

BTW, for those of you who don't reside in the UK, you can get curry-flavoured johnnies here.

Shakey - if she's really that hatstand then I think you could be setting yourself up for a whole hell of a lot of grief.

Al


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST,Shakey Joe
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:58 AM

Its no laugh Mooh ;-) As I said I want a casual relationship with the sex taken deadly seriously!!

I'll report. Better not take pictures though, that might seem a little creepy. Even I know that!!


Shakey Joe

getting more shakey!!


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: MMario
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:57 AM

perhaps some men enjoy manipulating and lying to get what they want...That's not to say women don't engage in this behavior too, but it's much more prevalent in men


?? Peg - hate to break it to you - But it's pretty prevelant behavior for both sexes - not only regarding sex - but a lot of other desires too.


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Mooh
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:54 AM

As for the sex vs war thing...don't ya think Shrub and the Shrubettes are compensating for something?

As for casual sex...just do it...but report back here so we can all analyze the situation (voyeurs that we are).

Thanks for the laugh.

Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:52 AM

Nostalgia may not be what it used to be, but you did used to be able to have casual sex... with no repercussions assuming appropriate barriers... and it wasn't a big deal, it was just sex for crying out loud. I miss the 70's! Nowadays everybody's so tied up in what it MEANS - how 'bout it means let's enjoy some sex, and if not, no biggie? (I did not grow up in the US of A, which I think had a lot to do with it.)


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:48 AM

I agree

look. I'm only trying to have sex here. I'm not going to bomb her! And don't get me wrong. I do like the girl its just that shes completely and utterly bonkers. Mad I tells ya, mad as an eel. but jesus she's drop dead gorgeous!!

another question!

ribbed or normal?
and should I arrive wearing it?



Shakey Joe


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:38 AM

Being in the catbird seat to watch the unfolding story of a lothario friend, I vote for the "not interested in romance, just in sex" approach. Fewer people will feel entitled to get mad at you later.


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: *daylia*
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:38 AM

My hand's way, way up!

But sex and war are kinda related, are they not?

Maybe our Guest Mars (Aries?) could enlighten us ...

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Sandy Creek
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:37 AM

Alasdair...we pushed the STOP button


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Alasdair
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:34 AM

Hands up if you think the sex thread is a welcome break from all the war stuff!


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Peg
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:32 AM

Just be clear what you expect from this. Be honest, and state that you don't want a serious relationship and make this clear BEFORE you have sex.
It always astounds me that men go out of their way to romanticize an encounter and seduce a woman as if they have romantic feelings when it's only about sex; why donlt they just try being honest? They might find that some women are only interested in sex, too. But perhaps some men enjoy manipulating and lying to get what they want...that way if they set up false expectations they can enjoy the hurt they cause others.
That's not to say women don't engage in this behavior too, but it's much more prevalent in men.


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST,Foe
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:31 AM

Nelson Algren quoted on NPR today on the Writer's Alminac, "Never eat at a place named Mom's, never play cards with a guy named Doc and never go to bed with anyone who has more problemd than you."


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Alasdair
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:28 AM

Daylia - seems to me that sex with wealthy strangers might be the way to go ;o)

Bullfrog - I object strongly to your terms of reference. Aspersions being cast all over the shop!


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST,Shakey joe
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:27 AM

Never saw that film. I did see deliverence on weds night though!!

maighty fine set of teeth!!


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST,Shakey Joe
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:26 AM

good stuff

I'll let you know how I got on!!


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:25 AM

Fatal Attraction



Just a little reminder!


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:22 AM

As Robert Heinlen said in one of his books, Masturbation is Safe, Healthy, Moral, Socially responsible, Doesn't make you go blind
- But it sure is LONELY !

Everybody should have a few casual relationships - it's a learning experience. The main thing is to try to be FRIENDS as well as sexual partners and to be honest with each other about the way that each of you views the whole thing. At least you get some idea about what you'd want in a more permanent relationship if you ever intend to have one.


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: *daylia*
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:15 AM

Yeah CO, I've come to the conclusion that the best way to lose a friend is to have sex with one. Too bad, so sad.


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST,Casual Observer
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:09 AM

I dunno. I never had sex with someone unless I really, really liked them, except for once, when I was in college, and..... you guessed it...... very drunk. After that I was embarrassed to see this person, which was really too bad. We had a good time together otherwise. I was on my way to the "really, really like" stage, but I think the sex ruined it.

If you both agree beforehand, well, go for it. But be careful.


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: *daylia*
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:08 AM

Never too late to start? Hmmmm, but there's so few, if any, guys out there who can "afford" the priceless *sniff sniff*! And I already have enough pants, I think ...

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 10:07 AM

Al --maybe it was just that the blokes Maddy bonked were more likely to wear pants!!

BJ


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Alasdair
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:57 AM

daylia - no idea but it's never too late to start. Sad thing is, Maddy won.

Al


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: CarolC
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:52 AM

Oohhhh!!! Late 20s!!

I can just hear that internal clock ticking away ( ...must ...make ...babies!!!!)

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: *daylia*
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:51 AM

Spaw, is that $100 American? Gotta figure in the exchange rate, hmmmmmmm ... ;)

Can't speak for other people, but as for me, I'm priceless! (Not to be confused with "free", of course).

Alasdair - collecting pants from randomly-bonked blokes? Geez where have I been all my life!

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Alasdair
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:51 AM

In an elevator? must have been VEEEERY quick


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Sandy Creek
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:49 AM

Where was the most exciting place you ever had nookie...mine was on a bus at night in New York City (NEW YORK CITY???) and in an elevator at the Edison Hotel in NYC. Oh but then there the the quickie in the ladie's room in a restaurant in Buffalo and in the hummer in the dressing room at Sears and then there was.............


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST,Shakey Joe
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:45 AM

Shes in her late 20s!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:42 AM

....."It may be "casual", but it's never "free" imo. I guess we get what we "pay" for, one way or another"........

So daylia.......What'll a hundred bucks get me?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: Alasdair
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:42 AM

Daylia - I think my girl friends would disagree. I shared a house with my best mate Maddy for a while and we had a bit of a competition about collecting pants from random blokes we'd bonked.

Al


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: *daylia*
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:36 AM

Well, Joe, it may be "casual", but it's never "free" imo. I guess we get what we "pay" for, one way or another.

How old is she? I may be stickin my neck out here, but I think women's attitudes change as they get older? Younger women tend to want committment, in preparation for raising a family, but over time they tend to value their freedom more (especially if their committments nearly got them "committed" in the past).

But that's just my experience talking - any other observations?

daylia


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:33 AM

Casual sex.........I love that term! Is this as opposed to fucking in a tuxedo and a full length evening gown? Or is it just an attitude like..........

Hey Babe.....uh.....I got a few minutes.......yawahna?
...oh I dunno'.......maybe.....do we have to go into the bedroom?
Nah....let's just rip off a quickie here on the porch.....
..well....okay....Be careful of the geraniums huh?...Last time we broke one of my best pots...
Got me on the head too if you recall...
....yeah....that was kinda' funny...
Look, just drop your pants a bit and we'll give it a short time skivvie guy doggie style huh?
.....okay I guess....

Casual sex.....yeah, gotta' love it.....

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: CarolC
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:23 AM

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: GUEST,Shakey joe
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:17 AM

see now, this is where it all gets complicated!


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Subject: RE: BS: casual sex anyone??
From: CarolC
Date: 28 Mar 03 - 09:15 AM

If she's into it being just a casual thing, it could be ok. But you don't want to be misleading her into thinking it's anything more than that just to get her into bed. Don't overlook the possibility that she might say she's into something casual, while what she really wants is a serious committed relationship, with the idea that if she works on you long enough, you'll come around to her way of thinking.


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