Subject: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: The Shambles Date: 07 Oct 98 - 01:54 PM My dear wife whilst performing the song: Song for Ireland. The line should be- We watched the Galway salmon run. Which came out as- We watched the Solway gammon run. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Barry Finn Date: 07 Oct 98 - 03:56 PM "Our hands are on the Broccoli Moor", should've been "Our hands are on the broad claymore" (2 handed sword) There was a thread qutie awhile back on these titled Montygreens (sp?). Barry |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Art Thieme Date: 07 Oct 98 - 05:18 PM once heard a quite famous singer of ballads , while singing "THE FLYING CLOUD",come to the line We'll hoist the pirate flag aloft... but it came out: We'll hoist the pilot frog aloft. Art |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Charlie Baum Date: 07 Oct 98 - 10:59 PM When we got tired of a particular glee club arrangement of "High Barbary," we changed: "Until at last the pirate blew the frigate's mast away" to: "Until at last they blew the friggin' pirate's mast away." --Charlie Baum |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Helen Date: 07 Oct 98 - 11:20 PM Barry, The thread was about mondegreens. Look here: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.CFM?threadID=2229 Helen |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Barry Finn Date: 07 Oct 98 - 11:39 PM Thanks Helen, if I'd have done better with my spelling I'd have gotten their under my own speed. Barry |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: BSeed Date: 08 Oct 98 - 03:44 AM Barry, the word is Mondegreens--Jon Carroll, an SF Chronicle columnist, coined the term--based on someone's mis-hearing of a line from "Lord Randall": "laid him on the green" as "Lady Mondegreen." --seed |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: AndyG Date: 08 Oct 98 - 06:43 AM I once attended the recording of a pilot TV show, (it was never broadcast), for a show starring Mike Harding & Bill Tidy (UK readers should know them both).
Mike performed the following ditty of which I only remember the first and last verses. The following is a phonetic transcription. ^^ The Basity Chelt
Poh ray mental jayden may I lee your buvver
Kenter your eep nonny-nonny
... missing bits ...
Alas and alack I am focked up lorever - (sing this carefully)
It's funnier than than the rugby club version.
AndyG
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Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Bert Date: 08 Oct 98 - 09:12 AM How about "A Grazing Mace" which can be found here in out dear old DT. http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=24 Bert. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Dawn Date: 08 Oct 98 - 02:12 PM I think there may be a difference between a "spoonerism" - which would be the singer muffing a line (whether intentional or not) and a mondegreen, where the error is on the part of the listener. There are whole web-pages of mondegreens out there - some of them are pretty hilarious. Typing "mondegreen" in a search engine will yield many. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Bert Date: 08 Oct 98 - 03:21 PM A Spoonerism is where the beginnings of two words are interchanged. My mother used to do it all the time. Her best one was with the saying "that will keep the rats from gnawing" (an English saying, said when giving food to someone who is hungry) It came out... "that will keep the gnats from roaring" Bert. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: The Shambles Date: 08 Oct 98 - 05:45 PM I think the best one, not in a song was, again my wife, when she wanted to be firm with me after a minor row. She put her hands on her hips, with great delight, thinking that this would shut me up, quoted "frankly my damm I don't give a dear". Bless her. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 08 Oct 98 - 08:47 PM What version of High Barbary is that? The version I know has the pirate's mast shot away, and the pirates all massacred. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Barbara Shaw Date: 08 Oct 98 - 09:29 PM My husband and I got two hats at DisneyWorld: Dopey and Grumpy. I was looking for them one day and said, "Where are the Gropey and Dumpy hats?" Could also be Droopy and Gumpy. All combinations seem to fit us one way or another. . . |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: BSeed Date: 09 Oct 98 - 12:03 AM Of course mondegreens are not spoonerisms, but they have their own charm: Gladly the cross-eyed bear Round young virgin mother and child The pale and the leader and eyes look like blue --seed |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Barbara Date: 09 Oct 98 - 12:06 AM |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: John in Brisbane Date: 09 Oct 98 - 12:39 AM To follow on from Barbara's example, I have changed the words to songs deliberately while performing, just for the sake of mischief and fun - often to include other members of the band, or some topical event. Often this was for a Standard that I had sung scores of times previously and could sing in my sleep. The trouble is (with my awful memory0 that the mischief becomes instantly ingrained. Trying to NOT do it I now find very hard.
As an example I used to sing a fun Aussie song called Euabolong Ball, with lyrics that went in part:
"Though the water was scarce there was whiskey to spare, what they didn't swallow they rubbed in their (substitute Barbara's or Joe's or whoever's) hair." That works fine until you spontaneously decide to change it to ... "Though the water was scarce, there was scotch in the hall"... and you then have to quickly decide whether to make it rhyme in the next line.
Regards |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Genie Date: 24 Aug 01 - 08:13 PM I posted a couple of examples under "Lyr. reg.: Round John Virgin" recently, trying to start a thread. Then I found the links to these "mondegreen" threads. Wow! |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Mark Cohen Date: 25 Aug 01 - 01:59 AM Somebody must know all of the Spooneristic classic Beeping Slooty....the only line I remember is "Meanwhile, around the castle, a horny gedge threw up." Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: DG&D Dave2 Date: 25 Aug 01 - 05:39 AM My favorite Spoonerism is from the Steeleye Span song "One Misty Moisty Morning" I'll plough and sow and reap and mow while you shall spit and sin! (sit and spin). Dave |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Dave the Gnome Date: 25 Aug 01 - 05:58 AM Yes - misheard or missung lyrics are indeed Mondegreens, although I believe it was a lady columist in the Glasgow Herald who first used the 'Lady Mondegreen' line. Funny thing was my first ever posting to the Mudcat was asking if anyone had heard of a 'Mondelawn'. I had heard the term on the radio and mis-remembered! Hows about that then - a nested Mondegreen:-) Ronnie Barker was a master at portraying Prof. Spooner in the two Ronnies TV series. But don't even mention 70's pop band Bucks Fizz.... Gnave the Dome |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Mark Cohen Date: 25 Aug 01 - 06:31 AM Well, I couldn't find the text to Beeping Slooty, but I did discover that it was the creation of F. Chase Taylor, a/k/a Colonel Stoopnagle, who was an old radio comedian. Here's the text of his Prinderella and the Since, which was published in his long out-of-print book, "My Tale is Twisted". And here's a site all about Colonel Stoopnagle himself. Interestingly, there is a website dedicated to Spoonerisms, in which several people have submitted Stoopnagle's stories without attribution, some as their own creations. So it doesn't just happen with folk songs! Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: iamjohnne Date: 25 Aug 01 - 08:12 AM I still remember Archie Campbell on Hee Haw telling the story of the "Three Pittle Ligs" I too have heard in the past about Prinderella marrying the since and hiving lappoly ever after. Johnne "goin where the weather suits my clothes"
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Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: fat B****rd Date: 25 Aug 01 - 08:23 AM Aw ! Slop your dripper |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: GUEST,Nancy King at work Date: 25 Aug 01 - 10:36 AM The third verse of "Let the Lower Lights Be Burning" starts out "Trim your feeble lamps, my brothers..." Because of the phrasing of the melody, it's much easier to sing, "Trim your lamps, my feeble brothers..." and once you've done it that way, it takes real concentration to sing it correctly. Cheers, Nancy |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: sophocleese Date: 25 Aug 01 - 12:30 PM "God mess ye bleary mental gents" has always been one of my favourite lines to kick off the Christmas season. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Dave the Gnome Date: 25 Aug 01 - 04:09 PM Nah - the truer Spistmas Chroonerism - although not politicaly correct if you are either German or mentaly unstable is "God rest ye Gerry Mentlemen..." Cheers GtD
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Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: GUEST,DeadHorse Date: 25 Aug 01 - 04:21 PM A morris colleague was singing Black Velvet Band and had imbibed a few beers. He ended up doing "three years senile pervitude" and every time he has sung that song since, we always laugh when he gets to that bit, even tho he NEVER got it wrong again. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Mark Cohen Date: 25 Aug 01 - 05:49 PM DtG, Allan Sherman did it this way: God rest ye, Jerry Mendelbaum Let nothing you dismay This May you had a rotten month So what is there to say? Let's hope next May is better And good things will come your way And then you'll have a month without dismay Next May Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: GUEST,Genie Date: 03 Sep 01 - 11:51 PM This is not quite a spoonerism, but it is a lyrical malaprop. I often sing "Hey, Good Lookin'" at retirement homes. Several years ago, after being well into the song and repeating a main line --"How's about cookin' somethin'up with me?" several times, I realized, to my combined horror and amusement, that I had been singing, "How's about keeping somethin' up for me?" Having realized my mistake, I tried very hard to sing the line correctly, but for several weeks, if I did not concentrate-- if I let my mind go on 'auto-pilot' - I reverted to the (Freudian?) slip of the tongue. I don't know if any of my senior clients noticed. If they did, they were too polite to point out my error. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: GUEST,redhorse Date: 04 Sep 01 - 08:27 AM At a singaround a few years back, someone - I think it may have been Eileen Pratt - recounted how she has never been able to sing one particular song again since the line "she mounted on her swift steed" came out as"she mounted on her stiff Swede" |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Trevor Date: 04 Sep 01 - 09:40 AM My twin daughters used to compete in pairs competitions on their ponies Foxy and Puck. How many commentators got it wrong? Laugh, we almost did. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: fat B****rd Date: 06 Sep 01 - 02:40 AM Years ago I made a demo of Otis Redding's "Sweet Lorrine" which had her making me meep and woan. The demo didn't do us much good anyway. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: GUEST,Genie Date: 06 Sep 01 - 03:11 AM From time to time when I sing "Edelweiss," I end up singing, "...Blossom of snow may you groom and blow, groom and blow forever ... ." Genie |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: KingBrilliant Date: 06 Sep 01 - 05:14 AM Half a spoonerism - I keep singing the snow it melts the soonest when the wind begins to sing, the swallow swims without a care.... Kris |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: GUEST,micca at work Date: 06 Sep 01 - 07:20 AM The one you definately (and it is difficult not to)Spoonerise, is Joan From Wigans " Pheasant plckers song" example chorus "I'm not a pheasent plucker, I'm pheasant pluckers son I'm only plucking Pheasents 'til the pheasant plucker comes try this at the speed Joan does the last chorus!!!!! |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Deckman Date: 06 Sep 01 - 09:23 AM This thread reminds me of the time that my twist got all tongued up in my eyetooth and I couldn't see what I was saying! |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Fin Date: 06 Sep 01 - 10:08 AM Micca, "The pheasant plucker" it makes me all twitter and bisted that I still can't get that one straight, even after forty years (or more.) Fin |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: KingBrilliant Date: 06 Sep 01 - 10:13 AM Not a song, but.... During a driving lesson some years ago I was trying to use the classic 'I keep getting my mucking ferds wuddled' line - but accidentally said ..... the unmuddled version. I had to stop driving for a while and tears of laughter were pouring down my face. The driving instructor was completely nonplussed - it took some explaining I can tell you! Kris |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: lady penelope Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:40 PM Jasper Carrot recorded Bastity Chelt, it's on record somewhere...... TTFN M'Lady P. |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: GUEST,Arjay Date: 06 Sep 01 - 11:25 PM When my little brother was a teenager, he and his buddies used to use deliberate spoonerisms to disguise "forbidden" words. E.g., they would say, "I need to pake a tiss," I have to crake a tap," etc. One time, though, they didn't think it through and the deliberate spoonerism came out "I have to shake a tit." This particular one was said to my brother's buddy's very prim and proper mother, who was not amused. Arjay |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Whippet Date: 07 Sep 01 - 05:40 AM I have a friend of mine who likes the odd spliff or two. When we were at Warwick Folk Festival a few years back his mother sat in the audience listening to someone singing 'Fiddler Green' she came up to us at the bar and said to her son 'Did that singer really sing 'Just tell me I'm shitfaced and taking a trip mate@ ? It really cracked us up !! |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Dunc Date: 07 Sep 01 - 07:22 AM Not part of a song...But at a festival once, a traditional singer called Doris Rougvie once called a man bringing her a drink her "Shite in Nining Armour". That same weekend I found myself refering to a passenger boat on the English Channel as a "Cross Flannel Cherry". |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: GUEST,Jenn Date: 07 Sep 01 - 10:51 AM From Edgar Allen Poe's, "The Raven," (last stanza): "And the Raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door." "...on the pallid busted phallus just above..." |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Ditchdweller Date: 07 Sep 01 - 02:40 PM Did hear a recording of someone with the lines from "Everything is Beautiful":- It don't matter about the colour of their hair, Or the length of his skin!!! |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: weepiper Date: 07 Sep 01 - 05:39 PM When I was small I used to listen to - 'Sovay, Sovay, all on a day, she dressed herself in man's array' thinking 'manzaret' must be a colour or a kind of dress or something! |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Lonesome EJ Date: 07 Sep 01 - 06:56 PM For Dave the Gnome: Just had to mention that my brother wants to start a "hows about that club" and since you must remember Jimmy Saville, perhaps you'd like to join?! It gets a bit lonely saying hows about that guys and gals, all by your self! Lion (lej's wife) |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: John Kidder Date: 08 Sep 01 - 01:58 AM Spoonerisms are named after William Archibald Spooner, a clergyman, Warden of New College, Oxford from 1093 to 1924. The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations cites "You will find as you grow older that the weight of rages will press harder and harder upon the employer", and "Her late husband, you know, a very sad death - eaten by missionaries, poor soul." My mother always said that Spooner was most famous for asking a congregation to sing "Kinquering Congs their Titles Take". John Kidder |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: GUEST,Phillip Date: 08 Sep 01 - 11:52 AM Old time country comedian Archie Campbell, late of Hee-Haw fame, had a couple of albums of "Tairy Fales". These were his twisted renditions of the classic stories with the added Spooner twists. Some of them have become classics, recited at country gatherings and cowboy poetry gatherings. The best I can recall was the tale of Rindercella who slopped her dripper and eventually married the pransome hince! |
Subject: RE: Spoonerism's in songs- Examples From: Jenny H Date: 08 Sep 01 - 03:52 PM I've never been quite sure whether the line in 'New York Girls' that goes I'll never court another girl, I'll stick to rum and beer
is itself a bowdlerising spoonerism, a cheeky (oh, dear, sorry, I didn't mean that) temptation to spoonerise, or wholly innocent; I find the last the least likely theory
Jenny H |
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