Ewan MacColl - real name?

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 06:21 AM

My Dad taught a couple of the Ruanes at St. Lawrence's Secondary Mod in Salford. Wonderful lads, he said, and no one ever caned them.

Martin and his brothers often used to come to the Exile of Erin off Oldham Road, Manchester, for the sessions in the early 70s. He used to sit quietly, a half pint of bottled Guinness in his hand, looking like a child with a dolls-house teacup. I only knew him to use his 'presence' once- after one of the IRA bombs, when some local thickos decided to do over the Paddies. When they came storming in, shouting the odds, he just stood up, slowly... he never seemed to stop rising... the would-be vigilantes paused, made their apologies to the landlady, and left, quickly and quietly.

IIRC that was before he started his wrestling career. I think he and his brothers used to carry bulldozers round on the M62 building site.

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 05:33 AM

Rats! You are right Dave.

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 05:24 AM

Sorry Ted - No cigar this time:0

Haystacks was Martin Ruane. Used to play on the darts team for the Man and Scythe (now demolished) in Kearsley btw. It was a real wrestlers pub owned by 'Rollerball Rocco's' dad. Huge blokes on the darts team. Dodn't loose often;-)

DtG

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 05:21 AM

Dunno - But Big Daddy was Shirley Crabtree - Brother of the wrestling announcer, Brian Crabtree.

and my real name is unpronoucable in your human tongue...

:D

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 05:20 AM

Shirley Crabtree!

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 03:51 AM

OK, then, what was Giant Haystacks' real name?

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 02:54 AM

Ewan MACCOLL ffs, not McColl, real name as already said Jimmy Miller.

eric

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 04 Aug 05 - 01:51 AM

Murray, how astute of you to notice my jocularity..I was being silly.
I thought everyone knew it was Spartacus.

Seamus

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Deckman
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:56 PM

With ALL due respect to Milivoy Slypitch, and his family! This was a real person and I met him when I was 16. He was Serbian. And he was a childhood friend of my father. I met him in 1953. CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Brakn
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:33 PM

Shit thread..... scrub it. Everybody knows. Sory i'm drunk

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:31 PM

Gordon Bennett...

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Peace
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:29 PM

Ardlow Cornfrisker, III

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Brakn
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:28 PM

and?

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Deckman
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:27 PM

Milivoy Slypitch?

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 07:12 PM

Ewan & Betsy

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 06:32 PM

I thought it was Alex Campbell.

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 06:28 PM

Or maybe Elliott Adnopoz?

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 06:17 PM

Seriously now ~ the above was just-kidding

Wasn't his original name Robert Zimmerman?

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 06:16 PM

His name was McGill
And he called himself Lil
But everyone knew him as Nancy

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Peace
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 05:56 PM

It was Fred. Fred Swagrundian. But his friends called him Joe.

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 05:56 PM

I see you are in jocular vein tonight Seamus *G*

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 05:54 PM

Ewen MacVicar...no wait!
Ed Miller...no wait, it's on the tip of my tongue...Mike Seeger!
Yeah, that's it! Mike Seeger!
No, no! wait!! Kirsty...no, that's not it either.
I give up...what was it?

Seamus

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Le Scaramouche
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 05:46 PM

Wasn't it with an 'a'?

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 05:46 PM

Presumably the name on his birth certificate, which would be his "real name", was JAMES Miller.
Or it could have been Jimmie Miller.
Or Jimmy Miller even ...

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 05:43 PM

his mother was Betsy Miller

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: radriano
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 05:36 PM

There's no need to wait if you do a search for "Ewan MacColl" yourself - chances are you'll find the answer you seek.

Subject: RE: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Peace
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 05:28 PM

Jimmie Miller.

Subject: Ewan McColl - real name?
From: Mr Red
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 05:27 PM

I have a small bet with myself on how fast this answer will come.

Don't disappoint me 'Catters