Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 03:47 AM

I also find it less than amusing that this feller now merits his own thread
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 19 - 03:45 AM

We really have been here before and the same arguments have been used in defence of paedofile priests, rapist rugby players and predatory pop personalities - "it all happened a long time ago" - "they served their time", "forgive and forget"   
I have little doubt that, given time, some will be pleading that we remember the pleasure Savile and Weinstein brought to the people and the good deeds of Father Groper (some already have - I can remember a torrent of support for Rolf Harris from one member)
People are treating this as an individual case, while, in fact it is part of a whole outlook towards the vulnerable - basically, "those in the position to, regularly use that position to prey on the weakest"
It is a situation that has besmeared the Theatre in Britain and Ireland, is damaging sport, has undermined young people's organisations like Youth Clubs and the Scouts, has entered into our education system, has always been a recognized aspect of the film industry, is a part of big business and politics - and it has driven a massive and irremovable wedge between true believers and their church - damaging both

This may have been only a "not-too serious" incident, but Me Too appear to believe there can be no exceptions - they have my vote on that one
It saddens me when intelligent people refer to their efforts as "self-righteous rants" - that's a recipe for leaving things as they are.

I tend to share Martin's surprise that this should be above the line - it goes far further than just music
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 11:12 PM

Self righteous rants are one approach to such situations..

The unforgiving condemnation of offending individuals to a lifetime, even eternity of damnation...

Well.. maybe that can help some folks feel better about themselves,
in a kind of "at least I'm not as bad as he is..." sort of way...
Like in prisons where a nonce's life expectancy in general population is very short...

Then there are words such as "contrition", "repentance", "redemption";
which seem to go down well with people holding more forgiving beliefs...

Obviously, it's the shouty hotheads who often tend to win arguments...


Just a reminder, in recent years, an immigrant in Bristol was beaten and burnt to death in public,
after being accused of being a kiddie fiddler..
..because he was foreign and looked a bit weird.

Of course he was an entirely innocent victim of lynch mob violence...

I don't care enough about Yarrow as an individual,
but the principle of him being allowed a 2nd chance so many decades after his conviction,
does merit serious discussion...

It's not Like he's Gary Glitter...???

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Mossback
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 10:08 PM

Apparently this needs saying again, Steve. No-one is asking anyone to FORGET WHAT HE DID- not me, not PFR, not Yarrow himself.

OK?

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 10:02 PM

oops... "I don't know anything about his criminality"...

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 09:59 PM

Steve - I've just read the first lines of your latest post,
and you are talking bollocks..

I couldn't give a monkeys about Yarrow.
My gang of 1970s teenagers always thought PP&M were far too drippy to be bothered with..
Out of curiosity I asked Alexa to play a Yarrow solo track today, and it was terrible.
I'm completely indifferent to the man
..no skin off my nose what happens to him...

You are out of order accusing me of being an apologist for him...

I know anything about his criminality other than what's discussed in this thread,
which I was reading out of curiosity,
then commenting on as is any mudcatter's privilege to do..

But I am a life long pedestrian and cyclist,
and I've heard too many arrogant bad drivers making excuses for far too long...

I have family all over the South West, so I hope you consider that
if you ever decide to speed again.
Grave yards are full of over confident drivers and their victims...

In comparison to that, as distasteful as an old man's dick might be to see,
they are not as potentially lethal...

Btw.. I then read the rest of you post while composing this...
I'm fair and even handed like that...

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 09:30 PM

Speeding of the type I was guilty of is not a "crime." Maybe you like this bloke's singing or something, who knows, and are of the "aw, give him a break" ilk. Well you give him a break if you like. Thousands wouldn't, including several of us in this thread. It's not about whether he's served his punishment according to the law. It's about whether we can stomach the notion of a bloke who deliberately abused young girls, whether we are record-buyers or gig-fixers or gig-attenders. He has no right to expect people to forget the distasteful thing he did. Good luck to him if they do. You can show the same distaste to me for my speeding on an empty open road (and I don't lie, thanks). I can't expect you not to if that's how you feel. But something inside me says that you can't be feeling entirely comfortable equating the two offences. Just remember: he definitely exposed himself to young girls. I definitely haven't killed anyone.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 09:17 PM

"Yet you rush to judgement on me but give this other fellow a pass"

I haven't given anyone a pass - him or you...

Justice was served for both of you...

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 09:13 PM

Steve.. but you would say that, wouldn't you...

I studied law over 40 years ago..
Taking a neutral position - objectively comparing real and hypothetical cases,
or the relative severity and consequences of different crimes..
that was all par for the course...

Despite tuning my back on that career path,
I still seem to have some of the muscle memory
of that particular skill set...

You chose to turn your crime public domain, I'm simply running with it as part of this thread...

Personally I think your crime is worse than a flashed dick...
But is it as bad as a one off instance of child abuse...???
well that's for law students to debate..
..and of course bolshy old gits like us...

btw.. carry on the good work not killing anybody..

I've not killed anybody yet either for what it's worth...

But give me more time...

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 09:00 PM

Some bad logic going on here. First, he definitely flashed his dick at young girls, maybe worse. Second, I definitely haven't killed anyone via speeding. It's a bit mischievous to make that comparison. Incidentally, if you want context, I was caught on a completely empty stretch of the A30 dual carriageway on a long, straight downhill section near Bodmin on a sunny Saturday morning in February. You judged me as a potential killer, yet, at the time of my offence (and I'm not complaining - bang to rights was I), the chances of my killing anyone were precisely zilch. So I've killed no-one, though I took a risk I suppose, slight though it was, but he definitely flashed his dick, maybe more. Yet you rush to judgement on me but give this other fellow a pass for an action that might have had you punching his lights out had you found that it was your daughter he'd abused. Weird.

And I haven't heard Susan invoking her Christianity. In fact, after years of reading her posts, it took someone other than her, in this very thread, to inform me of her Christian sentiments. I agree with Christians all the time about all sorts of things. Joe'll tell you that.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 08:34 PM

... oh yes.. and as you say.. let's not forget the parents..

or any other family members of folks you could seriously injure or kill...

Now weighing that up against a flashed dick...???

Not that I'm in anyway condoning such appalling behaviour.....


btw.. my old nan laughed her head off when she was flashed in her 50s...
A girlfriend got flashed at in her teens,
and if I remember she told her parent and the cops were called..

Neither were traumatized in the slightest...

However, if they had a knock on the door from a police officer saying a relative
had just been mown down by a speeding car...

Juat takes a little bit of conjecture... innit...

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Mossback
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 08:32 PM

Steve, I'm a bit surprised by your take on this. No one is suggesting that the incident be forgotten, least of all Mr. Yarrow.

It may, at a stretch, even colour their view as to whether I should ever be entirely trusted behind the wheel.

If it does, then "they" are idiots - unless this is your attempt at sarcasm?

As for your speeding ticket analogy, should you lose your livelihood or pension because of it - decades after the fact? Or should you me made to pay for it repeatedly and indefinitely?

As for Susan, she likes to wear her "Christianity" on her sleeve. Perhaps its appropriate she take a refresher course on Christ's teachings.

Cheers,

Bill

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 08:25 PM

Steve - your speeding car can kill potentially far more people
than any old man's dick...

I'd suggest that actually makes you much more of an immediate threat to innocent society...

His dick has apparently behaved itself for many decades..

You're still out at large on the roads for as long as you can get away with it..

Your crime may arguably be much worse than his, yet you received a much lesser penalty...???


I'm only seeing what you just confessed to in perspective...

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 08:07 PM

I'm fully with Susan and gillymor on this. This is not about a sex offender getting his legal just desserts then expecting everyone to forget it and give him a bye. I've just been done for speeding (87mph in a 70). I got fined and my points last for four years. In law, I'm clear after four years. But that doesn't mean I never did it, that it should be forgotten, that I'm as innocent as any non-speeder. I'm besmirched for life. Lots of people close to me who know what I did won't forget it. It may, at a stretch, even colour their view as to whether I should ever be entirely trusted behind the wheel. I can't insist that they forget all about it once the four years are up. I wouldn't trust a bloke who once flashed his dick at a young girl ever. Not even after fifty years. His judgement on that occasion was terrible and he can never prove to the world that he's incapable of doing it again, just like me and my speeding (I've been done before, by the way, and may well be done again, even though I'm trying hard). I wouldn't trust him near my girls and I wouldn't book him for a gig. That's his tough shit. It can be a hard world, and let's not forget that this isn't the law we're talking about. It's about parents and other concerned adults setting their private standard as to how the world should be. We need lots more of that.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 07:06 PM

Odd that this survives above the line ...

Regards

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 03:52 PM

The United States has a strange obsession with putting people in prison.

The USA officially has the highest incarceration rate in the world, according to data from the International Center for Prison Studies. For every 100,000 people who lived in the US in 2011, 716 were in jail. Most European countries, like France, Germany and the UK, have between 50 and 150 prisoners per 100,000 residents.

Despite falling crime rates, the US prison population has grown from 307,276 in 1978 to a high of 1.6 million prisoners in state and federal prisons in 2009, according to a report from the Pew Research Center. Since then, in the last three years, the prison population has declined, but only slightly.

Joe, have you read The Spirit Level: Why Equality is Better for Everyone?It was written by Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, two English academics with a background in "health inequalities", and first published in 2009. They offer evidence to show that many aspects of society - from life expectancy to mental illness, from violence to illiteracy - are determined not by how wealthy a society is, but how equal it is. It's a fascinating account, and the USA and the UK have a great deal in common.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: meself
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 02:38 PM

"I wouldn't leave any of them alone with my daughter." ... um ... is anyone asking you to?

"No one is entitled to tell someone who has been victimized how long they get to stay mad about it" - Is anyone telling the woman in question how long she gets to stay mad, or asking her if she is still mad (or if she ever was)?

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 02:21 PM

Society is outraged by crime, and rightly so. We cry out for heavier and longer penalties for those who commit crime, and we often complain that a criminal got just a slap on the wrist for his crime.
I spent a lot of time on the job in jails and prisons, and I never found a prison that looked like a country club. One month in jail is still a significant punishment. Five years in prison is almost inhumane... even though it may not be equal to the anguish suffered by the victim of the crime.
I think we need to reconsider our response to crime. We waste too much money and too many human lives in our prisons. And we set people up for further crime if we deny inmates employment and exclude them from society once they are released.
If a person evades punishment for fifty years like some offenders have, they deserve prosecution and punishment. But if they were punished for their crime fifty years ago, the punishment should not continue for a lifetime. Peter Yarrow spent time in jail, and I understand that the conviction was part of the reason why PP&M broke up for a decade. Yarrow paid the price fifty years ago. Continued shunning is not necessary or helpful or just.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 02:16 PM

btw.. where exactly is my "precise point on the enormous continuum of misogyny"...???

That might have sounded a bit clever when you were typing it,
but it's just as over reacting & insulting as any of the stupid things
chauvinistic men can say about all women...

..or any other zealots when attacking their perceived enemy...

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 01:56 PM

wysiwyg - That'll be a powerful movement that is necessary, important,
and an effective vehicle in the struggle for overdue fairness and justice.

But it aint perfect, and will harbour amongst the multitude of women fighting this cause,
a minority who are motivated by unjust spite and disproportionate vengeance...
That's just good ol' human nature...


"No one is entitled to tell someone who has been victimized how long they get to stay mad about it, much less a whole class of people"

well.. maybe the elderly Jewish lady who survived the holocaust,
who has jut passed away...
She later realized how much better living could be after she let go of the bitterness,
and forgave her n@zi torturers...
She didn't do it for the evil old men who took so much away from her in her childhood,
but for herself, for her own sense of well being...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/06/eva-kor-survivor-of-mengele-dies-during-annual-trip-to-auschwitz

"Forgive your worst enemies,” Kor said in a video recording of her last visit to the Auschwitz Museum posted to its official Facebook page.
“The moment I forgave the Nazis, I felt free from Auschwitz and from all the tragedy that had occurred to me,” she added."

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Mossback
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 01:43 PM

Susan, do you carry your pitchfork in your right hand and your torch in the left, or the other way 'round?

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 01:34 PM

The thread title and much of the discussion demonstrate exactly how women's outrage is still viewed. No one is entitled to tell someone who has been victimized how long they get to stay mad about it, much less a whole class of people... and you can't refer (or fail to object) to a powerful movement in the way the thread title does, without showing your precise point on the enormous continuum of misogyny.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 01:21 PM

Sometimes, yes, bed things can be done only once. Oops, I meant bad. I bullied someone once, never before nor again. Felt awful, for decades, about it.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 12:31 PM

Pfr, I absolutely agree with your last post.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 12:25 PM

Thanks for responding, now I'm off to sharpen the tines of my pitchfork.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 12:20 PM

Gillymor, no, it's not the "she asked for it" defense. It's the "he opened his door and subsequently made bad decisions" vs "he drove to a local mall and trolled for teenaged girls" invitation to sanity.

But I'm interfering with folks' recreational outrage.
(Or their addiction to taking their pitchforks and torches to go after their perceived monster.)

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 12:06 PM

All powerful men who took advantage of their positions to abuse females, some who were below the age of consent. While the degree of their sleaziness may vary I wouldn't leave any of them alone with my daughter.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 11:53 AM

I take a balanced fairly tolerant view on this..

I differentiate between evil serial sexual predators,
and young men making the most of the hedonistic lifestyle and temptations on offer
from being in a rock band 50 years ago...

Record labels knew they could rip off male artist with bad recording contracts
because the dumb young bucks were more than contented with the copious sex, drugs.. and rock n roll...

Anyone who was young in the 1970s, knows first hand that acceptable social norms and behavior
were very different back then...

Any musician behaving in such decadent libertine ways now in 2019
shouldn't be too surprised if arrested and vilified...
..and should always stay aware that there are phone cams and cctv everywhere...

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 11:49 AM

Let's not judge everyone by the standard Trump sets, shall we? I don't see Yarrow, or men like Al Franken or Garrison Keillor in the same group as Trump or Harvey Weinstein or Roger Ailes, etc.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 11:43 AM

"One time, jail, finished...". You really think that kind of behavior occurs just once and then it's over? Look at Trump. Like I said, he forfeited the benefit of the doubt. Let concert and festival promoters make their own decisions, I'm sure Mr. Yarrow won't be missing any meals.

"Under aged "groupies" who knock on someone's door are not the same."
I don't quite understand that, is that the "she was asking for it" defense?

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 11:33 AM

And, of course, there is no such thing as ‘willing’ if the person is below the legal age of consent - which is what I think pfr is saying. A person below the LAoC cannot be ‘willing’ because they are too young to be considered competent to give consent to sexual activity.

But - and it’s a big ‘but’ - he was put through the legal process fifty years ago, served his sentence and, as far as anyone knows, has never re-offended. Ostensibly, he learned from the experience and modified his behaviour to standards that are acceptable within the law and society. Isn’t that what a prison sentence is for? Looks as though it worked in this case.

Time to give him a break?

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 11:27 AM

How long ago this happened really has no place here

Of course it does! One time, jail, finished, versus a serial rapist on the loose for ages? If you can't see that, you have no sense of proportion, or what punishment fits the crime.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 11:21 AM

willing underage groupies or not, don't you have a charge of statuary rape..

and what about the child brides in some USA states...???

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 09:20 AM

I'm with Joe. Under aged "groupies" who knock on someone's door are not the same. But, like I said, villagers with pitchforks and torches.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 06 Jul 19 - 02:42 AM

"happened fifty years ago"
Around the time Jimmy Savile stated raping children under his care
Maybe the earlier ones should never have been counted !
How long ago thi happened really has no place here - this has been used far too often to excuse paedophile priests
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 01:29 PM

I think I'd agree with Mossback. Sexual assault on women is a serious issue, and we must bring it to an end. But Yarrow's offense happened fifty years ago, and there is no evidence of subsequent offenses.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 12:37 PM

specsavers or rosetinted spectacles

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 12:28 PM

I was reading this morning of a case in America where a young man who raped a girl slightly younger than himself (she was underage, he was not), then passed around a film of the rape to his mates, heading it "what happens if your first sexua experiance is to be raped"
The judge, in his wisdom, ruled that "because the youth had no previous record and came from a very good home, it would be wrong to allow him to be tried as an adult at it would ruin a very promising future"
He also commented that he "didn't believe it to be rape as it wasn't carried out at gunpoint"

Yarrow's case isn't comparable with this atrocity at all but it is indicative of what women have to combat if they are brave enough to to bring charges against rapists and sexual molesters.
'Me To' needs all the help they can get when it comes to dealing with sexual predators in high places, in my book.

Dick
You obviously haven't read Mudcat's handbook
If a singer who has devoted his life to passing on his love of traditional song, has been unwise enough to comment on a woman's nail varnish at a folk club six decades ago, that heinous crime is still considered a worthy point for discussion thirty years after his death, even to the point of making discussion of the singer's work a no-go area.
On the other hand, if a folkie superstar shows his willie to a couple of fourteen year olds seeking his autograph, we should forgive and forget as it might stop him getting work
It's all down to perspective
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Mossback
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 10:17 AM

Vass you dere, Sharlie?

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 10:07 AM

Not that making passes at 14yos is a good idea, but many Americans consider unwanted passes to be molestation.

Does sound as if a lot more than a pass happened, though.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Mossback
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 08:37 AM

The "Me Too" movement began as something I approved of and supported whole-heartedly. It has now in many cases morphed into a McCarthyite lynch mob. I suppose the next phase will be 'the revolution devouring its own'.

That's a shame.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 08:35 AM

"Sexual advances" isn't even close to molestation"

So you'd be happy for some older guy to make sexual advances to your underage daughter?

It's up to a festival to decide whether they want to book someone or not.
End of story.
The more people make it clear that this kind of sleazebag behaviour does not go unpunished, the less likely it is to happen again.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 08:11 AM

But how does USA reconcile itself with an act of underage sex that is a crime in most states,
yet condoned by a marriage certificate in a minority of others....

That just looks perplexing and archaic from over here...

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: gillymor
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 05:52 AM

jeri seems to have vacated this thread but I'll answer the questions she put to me-
Yes I know the difference between "flashing somebody" (a term that only you seem to use to describe Yarrow's admitted crime) and rape (something I never accused him of) but you don't seem to know the difference between "flashing somebody" and attempting to have sex with someone below the age of consent.
According to an article in the NY Post- "Yarrow served three months of a one- to three-year prison sentence after pleading guilty to taking “indecent liberties’’ with the girl." It would appear he got much more than a 3 month sentence and did more than just display his weiner, which is a scenario that you seem to be clinging to, as well as parroting his "everybody was doing it back then" defense which is no defense at all.
New York Post


I have nothing against Yarrow, I admire him for his social and political activism but to me when you commit a sex crime against a minor you pretty much relinquish the benefit of the doubt. If I had a young daughter I wouldn't want him anywhere near her, then or now.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Jul 19 - 02:10 AM

there was a victim in this, a young underage girl the trouble is Jeri   your judgement has become clouded because you agree with Pters political views, if for example tjhis had been Nixon or joe mcCarthy i bet you would not be defending him.
typical that you disappear when you realise you are mistaken.peter accepted his guilt[which is more than you appear to do] and apologised whether the show should have been cancelled is a different matter.,   Jeri stop trying to defend an indefensible action.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Jul 19 - 05:58 PM

"Sexual advances" isn't even close to molestation, which, I would think, involves touching.
In any case, this has become too nit-picky, and villagers-with-pitchforks-and-torches for me to want to continue discussing it,so, bye.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Jul 19 - 05:24 PM

Convicted sex offender who admitted molesting a 14-year-old girl.

"A 14-year-old girl and her 17-year-old sister went to Yarrow’s hotel room in Washington, DC, in 1970 seeking an autograph, it was reported at the time. Yarrow, then about 32, answered the door naked. He made sexual advances that stopped short of intercourse."
so according to this he did not just answer the door naked , he did more than that, he made sexual advances

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Jul 19 - 05:07 PM

Oh, lots of Americans consider showing nudity to be molestation of those who'd rather not see it.

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Jul 19 - 05:02 PM

Jeri he molested a young girl. I happen to agree with his political views, but that is not the point, anyone who molests an under age girl has committed an offence, molesting a girl is different from answering the door naked, as you stated

Subject: RE: Peter Yarrow me-too'ed out of concert?
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Jul 19 - 04:57 PM

Pretty much what I found, and the meaning of "pardon" is what I said.

"by most accounts I'm aware of it involved something more than that". Gillymor, I don't know what accounts you're aware of. Share?
He served the full sentence.

And it's about a musician's appearance at a festival being cancelled. Should have stayed in music, regardless of the discussion of the scandal part.