BS: The Olympic Games

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 11:25 AM

Men's synchronised swimming and men's rhythmic gymnastics?!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 11:05 AM

Talking about swimming, surely there are more black swimmers at these games than any previous.
I've always felt that a sport can't have reached anywhere near it's true potential if it hasn't embraced black athletes in a big way ( e.g. cycling)
BTW, has a black swimmer ever won a gold medal?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:32 AM

Now I get your point thank you

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:28 AM

...at least bear in mind, Olddude, that a lot of what I'm arguing here re sports WAS largely status quo not that long ago (netball was created as a non-contact sport for females, relatively recently, by folks who must have been of a similar mind to me); and that I find it ridiculous that a female should not be considered for the highest office in the church, e.g., which is also quite radical for many.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:16 AM

David,
I have come to know you as a very good person. You are kind and considerate but I have to say, sometimes I don't understand you. Some of your posting come across exactly the opposite as I know you to be. But that is ok, I don't understand myself half the time

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:05 AM

Your British young ladies trained day and night for this, you all should be proud of them instead of telling them to go home and cook. My gosh, beautiful young women working so hard to win for their country. I am proud of all of them as I am for my US girls.You should be to. Now if our Jenn can win the pole vault life will be good. She is drop dead beautiful and at 6 feet 140 is solid muscle ... Last Olympics she smile and gave my wife and I a big hug ... sweeties young lady in the world

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 10:04 AM

Agree on Ben Ainslie - an excellent English sportsman.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MikeL2
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 09:40 AM

Hi

Great stuff Jessica it was a treat to watch the way she won the Gold. She could have hung around in the 800 meters but she ran to her best ability and won the race.

Well done too to Mo Farrah and Greg Rutherford. The British rowing and cycling teams continue to excel. The cycle team are not only winning but breaking World Records.

I just heard on TV that in the 1948 London Olympics the longest distance that women were allowed to run was 200 meters !!

Today I saw hundreds of women from all over the World running 42 Kilometers. !!! The fastest ones at around 2hrs 20 minutes. Things have surely changed.

Cheers

MikeL2

PS just watched this moment Ben Ainslie win the Finn Class in Sailing. This is the 2Iron Man" of sailing.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Stu
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 09:11 AM

I'm glad to see the girls doing so well, good on them and we should support them completely. I can't see why anyone would deny them the right, as sexism has no place in modern society.

Haven't heard much from the anti-multicultrualists in the last couple of days either, as multicultural Britain winds golds all over the shop; I hope they were sitting at home not cheering, just stewing in their ignorance and bigotry as the rest of us celebrate the joy of winning and our wonderful diversity.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 08:38 AM

Terrific - now women are boxing as well...but, as I said in verse, men still "can't suckle a baby" (here).

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:52 AM

Sorry - wrong thread

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:51 AM

Clive is cast away to Prospero's magical isle with the award-winning actor, Tim Pigott-Smith, who stars as the marooned Duke of Milan in Adrian Noble's production of 'The Tempest' at the Theatre Royal Bath later this month. It's a world of spirits and monsters, mistaken identity and sweet romance - but where does the reality end and fantasy begin? After all, ''We are such stuff as dreams are made on".

Clive navigates his way to calmer waters and dry land where he meets The Man in the Rubber Mask, otherwise known as Robert Llewellyn or Kryten from Red Dwarf. Robert's novel, 'News from Gardenia', presents a utopian vision of Great Britain in the future, as seen through the eyes of a man from the present.

Nikki dials up 'Fonejacker' Kayvan Novak in his alter-ego role of Terry Tibbs, the used car salesman. Terry's now got his own prime time chat show, 'Verry Terry', which sees him interviewing a variety of celebrity guests. First up for the Terry treatment are all round tough guy, Mickey Rourke, and TV presenter, Anthea Turner. 'Verry Terry' is part of Channel 4's 'Funny Fortnight' on Thursday 16th August at 10pm.

American folk legend and grande dame, Peggy Seeger, talks to Clive about her new album 'Folksploitation', which sees her in an unlikely collaboration with the experimental dance music producer Broadcaster. She will also perform the original acoustic version of 'First Time Ever I Saw Your Face' - the song her husband Ewan McColl wrote for her when they first met in 1957.

Further musical entertainment comes from the soulful pop sensation Eugene McGuinness who plays 'Shotgun' from his new album 'The Invitation to the Voyage'.

Producer: Cathie Mahoney.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:23 AM

...didn't see that, Bonzo...I wonder if she can bake a nice stottie?

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 07:01 AM

The ladies' discus champion was nice and meaty!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 05 Aug 12 - 06:16 AM

The truth is, Don, I'd be far less radical/far more at home if it was the 1950s...

"#BBC2012 Bulging veins running down skinny young/old limbs - it's the women's marathon." (In which women did NOT participate until the late 1960s.)

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 06:57 PM

""Well as a father, I taught my girls they can be anything they want to be, do anything they set their mind to do. One played rugby at a US Ivy league college, all are triathlon iron man competitors, all very successful in their chosen careers. It is a mistake to tell a young woman that she cannot do something in sports or otherwise. How is that going to reflect on a young girl. And as far as full contact sports, all three are black belts.""

Way to go Dan. At least you belong in the 21st century.

I've come to the conclusiuon that WAV, who would stifle aspiration other than clerics, netball players and "Would be" (not actual?) Presidents, has one of the finest minds of the twelfth century.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 06:02 PM

Not a big sports fan but I must take the opportunity to say well done for winning 6 gold medals today! Jessica Ennis in particular was a wonder to watch.

Good on you all!

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 05:55 PM

"I'm very sure that females should not play rugby"

And some time ago many were very sure they should not vote in elections. The reality is they do play rugby, football etc. Get over it!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 05:51 PM

"a difficult time for Scottish Nationalists...." Can't see why. They'd prefer Scotland competed as a seperate nation but they support the team they are competing for as much as anyone else.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 05:19 PM

Even the moon's in on it!... http://www.trust.org/alertnet/multimedia/pictures/detail.dot?mediaInode=0f1ccc66-6c7a-4887-9dea-3ba4631e9bc6

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 04:57 PM

If someone wanted to beat Michael they needed to out train him ... 50% is physical ability which all of them have, the other 50% is training. I admit I am not a fan of his, but I take nothing away from his skill, he earned every medal since no one can really beat him.

Like the little Chinese girl, people like to yell doping ... well ya know they do tests before and after and long before and after. Maybe she just out trained the competition and now it is sour grapes ... same with Phelps

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 03:44 PM

Just saw Michael Phelps last competitive swim - surprise, surprise: Gold.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 02:32 PM

Yes, it is indeed a difficult time for Scottish Nationalists, Welsh nationalists, and English nationalists, like me. "GB" and the Union Flag are being heard and seen, in success, all over the shop.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 01:46 PM

Well done the GB team indeed.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 11:01 AM

Hi

I have watched much of the broadcast so far of the Games.

There have been many exciting moments and these make fantastic viewing.

Cycling both road and track, rowing, hockey ( the field variety) were all exciting. I actually found Archery to be very interesting and though it looks easy I guess that it certainly isn't.

Today I am watching Athletics, especially Jessica Ennis. She is a brilliant and gifted athlete and seems to be a very nice person to boot. She seems to be set to win gold in the Heptathlon after a very disciplined and focussed performance leaves her to run well in the last of her events the 800 metres. Go Jessica go !!

There has been a great deal of discussion and "adverts" ( theoretically should be none on the BBC.) which for me gives me time to do other tasks that I need to do, so I don't really mind but I can see how it annoys many people.

Of all the presenters and " experts " for me Clare Balding and Michael Johnson stand out.

All in all Well done Team GB.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Penny S.
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 10:43 AM

Actually, I don't much like men with over bulging muscles and cauliflower ears, but it isn't my business to interfere with them doing what they do well.

What's been getting me is the defenders of so many GB and NI medallists coming from private education claiming that it's nothing to do with facilities (Olympic standard rowing lake!) but all to do with state schools abandoning the very necessary encouragment of competiveness.

Which teaches most people that they are losers, and makes "striving for excellence" utterly soul destroying. The few at the front, who have a chance of beating the one whom everyone knows is going to win, maybe it's good for them, but not the rest.

(Aged 11, I pulled a muscle at the top of my leg which bothered me for years, in a race I had chosen not to enter, and was told I couldn't possibly have because I came in last. Which I had expected, but done my darndest not to. Did the stupid woman think I wasn't trying when she deliberately set me up to fail?)

(My sister says I shouldn't remember these old things - but I think it made me better at dealing with most of the children in PE.)

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 10:12 AM

Modern.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 10:07 AM

Well as a father, I taught my girls they can be anything they want to be, do anything they set their mind to do. One played rugby at a US Ivy league college, all are triathlon iron man competitors, all very successful in their chosen careers. It is a mistake to tell a young woman that she cannot do something in sports or otherwise. How is that going to reflect on a young girl. And as far as full contact sports, all three are black belts.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 09:59 AM

Winning or losing, I'm very sure that females should not play rugby and, in the blog Don mentions, I question women's Association Football, also:

"Furthermore, when I was a junior, females were not participating in football (many were, rather, involved in non-contact netball), and, having watched some Women's World Cup football, I tend, again, to agree with how it was..?" (link above).

But, I must repeat, I'm quite happy for my archbishop or would-be president to be a female - because such roles do not demand scrummaging, chesting a football, belting tennis balls, lifting heavy weights, etc.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 09:54 AM

What fuss, one coach made a comment, all the commentators here especially rowdy ganes the great former swimmer said "nonsense" She is a gifted athlete

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 06:24 AM

Interesting that the USA make a fuss about the Chinese wonder swimmer from nowhere, but not a word about their own wonder swimmer who won the ladies' 800 metre freestyle, although not quite as fast as our Beccy in the last Olympics!!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Aug 12 - 04:44 AM

"and you don't agree with the idea of a UK women's football team.
Would that have anything to do with fact that in international contests they are showing a consistency of success which puts their vastly overpaid prima donna male counterparts to shame and degradation."

actually there has been no consistency of success. This is the first time there has ever been a UK women's team (ie Team GB) and the first time for 50 years that there has been a UK men's team. There had been opposition to the formation of the UK teams within Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland from both the general public and the football associations themselves. So if he opposes the idea of a women's team altogether then yes, he is a dinosaur - but if he opposes the principle of a joint team then he's in line with the majority of the football associations in the UK.

I take it you are meaning they are doing better than the English football team? In truth they've done much the same as England often do. Get through the group then lose in the next round.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 08:11 PM

Well I am waiting in great anticipation for Women's pole vault, Jenn Suhr formerly Jenn Stuczynski was a student of my wife in HS and she is the sweetest young girl in the world and our top rated pole vaulter. Last Olympics she took silver so we are all hoping gold this time. The whole county will go nuts if she does

Jenn

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 07:53 PM

You say on your blog, WAV, that you preferred it when women were restricted to non contact netball, and you don't agree with the idea of a UK women's football team.

Would that have anything to do with fact that in international contests they are showing a consistency of success which puts their vastly overpaid prima donna male counterparts to shame and degradation.

You truly are a misogynist Australian dinosaur with delusions of intelligence.

Go get 'em girls!

DonT.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 07:47 PM

A lot of hard work on the part of all contestants, regardless of the sport. Very enjoyable so far.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 04:54 PM

Taught, partly, by an Anglo-American lecturer in Australia, Spaw (or should I say "sir"), I got distinctions for humanities and, a few years earlier, managed to play A-grade junior team and individual sports - with a club-foot - http://davidfranks.blogspot.co.uk/p/extras-on-football-and-tennis.html

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 04:18 PM

I got the biggest kick out of the two women teaming in rowing for the USA.   One was from Ohio State and the oher from Michigan. For all of you not from here, that is one of the biggest rivalries in college sports.

As usual Walkylimpdick, you are as fucked up as ever!


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 07:24 AM

""#BBC2012 Do you like females with bulging muscles AND veins, or cauliflower ears? Do you like women's rowing, or women's judo? I don't.""

I'm sure your disapproval bothers them deeply WAV.

It is 2012 you know, not 1912!

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Aug 12 - 05:05 AM

Lumberjacks are big and tough
And truckers even stronger
But they know when it comes to swimmin'
Our Beccy stays on longer!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 08:55 PM

Loved the women rowers ... and I thought they were beautiful young ladies for sure ...

like beer everyone has their own taste in the lovely female form

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: olddude
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 08:30 PM

you folks have to remember, China and several others have state sponsored training etc. The US and Canada and a host of others athletes pay for their own training. I think it makes a difference if you have access to anything anytime. The little girl Missy Franklin has only 1 swim coach for 10 years and she is only 17 ... It is the High School Coach from Aurora Colorado, her school. She has won a couple gold metals so far and more to follow. She and her parents turned down any corporate sponsors because she would not be eligible to swim on her high school team if she accepted. She trained in her HS school before and after school ...

Now as great as she is, it would make me wonder what she would achieve if she was in one of the China State Athlete training factories huh. Maybe more great or maybe less great dunno

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 06:21 PM

"No woman will get cauliflower ears from Olympic judo competition." (Q)...men only?

Tunesmith: As said above, I heard someone comment (a swimming commentator, I think) that all medallists will be tested, with results taking about a month to come through.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 04:33 PM

#BBC2012 Do you like females with bulging muscles AND veins, or cauliflower ears? Do you like women's rowing, or women's judo? I don't.

I don't like flat or ingrowing chested anorexics masquerading as athletes!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 03:40 PM

Indoor Track and Field Championships held in March in Istanbul offered a preview of the Olympic track and field.
Important meets were held in New York, Glasgow and other venues.
Competitions have become year-round.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 01:47 PM

No woman will get cauliflower ears from Olympic judo competition.

If more women knew some simple defense moves, attacks by sexual predators would be lessened.

China has a large population, and like the U.S. has the facilities. sports are popular, and athletes with desire and ability are given a fast track.

What do you mean by out of season? Competitions are held at different times of the year, depending on regional sponsoring, interest and climate.

Most sports are overseen by organizations that keep tabs on contestants.
There will always be cheats, but sooner or later they fall afoul of sophisticated testing used for major competitions.

I was disappointed by the sour grapes comment by the American coach; he should be penalized. Wiggins, the great GB cyclist, has drawn similar comment in the press.
That young swimmer from Lithuania, who looks like a rising star, will be lucky if she escapes similar accusations.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 12:59 PM

The Chinese improvement on so many sports is truly amazing; indeed, quite a few eye-brows have been raised.
Does any one out there know about drug testing?
For example, whose responsibility is it to test athletes out of season? ( when drug taking is most likely).
If it is internal - unverifiable - system ( e.g. French officials testing French athletes), then that seems rather dodgy.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 11:16 AM

"Canada has 6 medals and China has 30"

You are right of course the massive countries should do better. It was mentioned on British tv the other day that the most succesful Olympians are New Zealanders if it is worked out on per head of population.

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 11:04 AM

Nobody in the entire universe sets any store by anything that oaf WalkaboutsVerse says anyway, hasn't he hasn't realised that, after all the drivel he's posted over the years got so much derision.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: gnu
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 08:42 AM

Canada has 6 medals and China has 30. If we went per capita, Canada would have 240 medals. WE ARE KICKIN ASS!

GO CANUCKS!

Subject: RE: BS: The Olympic Games
From: Allan Conn
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 07:50 AM

I'm sure our brilliant two young and attractive women rowers who won the Gold wouldn't lose sleep that some bloke posting on the internet doesn't approve of women rowers!