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GUEST,Steve Gardham 21 May 08 - 06:42 PM
GUEST,m mclean 10 Jun 08 - 10:46 AM
Willa 10 Jun 08 - 03:06 PM
GUEST 11 Jun 08 - 04:04 AM
GUEST,Steve Amor 05 May 09 - 02:00 PM
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Betsy 24 Aug 09 - 08:20 AM
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Ringer 12 Oct 09 - 10:04 AM
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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Steve Gardham
Date: 21 May 08 - 06:42 PM

Kate,
It's 'Paul's Little Hen' and it's a Norwegian translation. I have a copy somewhere in one of the old school pamphlets, but I've also got the Norwegian original in a Norwegian songbook by Mads Berg called 'Skolens Sangbok'. Unfortunately I don't know where all those funny things that go above the letters are on my computer

Pal sine honer

Here's what I remember

'Paul's little hen ran away from the farmyard, over the ....... and away from the farm.
Paul made a leap but could not catch her, now I shall never go there again
Cluck cluck cluck cried the poor little creature, cluck cluck cluck as she cried in vain.
If you wish I will have a good look for the translation tomorrow and post it.
Steve


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,m mclean
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 10:46 AM

Paul's little hen.            

Paul's little hen flew away from the farmyard,
Ran down the hillside and into the dale.
Paul hurried after, but down in the brambles
There sat a fox with a great bushy tail.
"Cluck, cluck, cluck", cried the pooor little creature.
"Cluck, cluck, cluck", but she cried in vain.
Paul made a spring, but could not save her.
Now she will never go home again.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Willa
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 03:06 PM

This is what I remember.

Paul's little hen flew away from the farmyard,
ran down the hillside and into the dale.
Paul hurried after but down in the brambles,
there sat a fox with a great bushy tail.

Cluck! Cluck! Cluck!
Cried the poor little creature.
Cluck! Cluck! Cluck!
But she cried in vain.

Paul made a spring but could not save her.
"Now I shall never dare go home again."


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 04:04 AM

Does anyone remember a song about circus? I am sure it began "putting up the big top" and also had the line "we deserve applause and praise that we dont get"
I can't bring the rest of the lyrics to mind, does anyone remember it?
Jinty


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Steve Amor
Date: 05 May 09 - 02:00 PM

I participated in "Singing Together" from Autumn 1960 to Summer 1962. Amongst the songs we sang were "Amsterdam Maid" (presumably with watered-down lyrics), "Oh I Love The Maiden Fair" and "Old Zip Coon",

One that I can now find no trace of had lyrics that began "Now the green leaves go, tomorrow I must go, today I shelter here so none may know". It appeared to be about a father on the run from the authorities saying goodbye to his children for the last time. I wonder if it dates back to the English Civil War, or the religious persecutions of the previous century -- or perhaps, more recently, from Ireland.

I don't remember the title -- is anyone familiar with this song?


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Anne
Date: 24 Aug 09 - 06:18 AM

Hello

I am trying to find a song about a turtle dove, which I think may have come from singing together in the seventies. Words of first verse are

In a wood there lived a dearest turtle dove
And she sang so sweetly in her nest above
Oh I love that turtle dove so much I hope one day
She will gladly leave her nest and come with me to stay.

Can anyone help please? Thanks


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Betsy
Date: 24 Aug 09 - 08:20 AM

My recollection ( I was born in November 1947 – i.e. school years were decided on your date of birth ) so before leaving Junior school it must have been 1956 / 7 maybe 58 they had a competition to choose the most popular song of the school year .
The winner which wasn't particularly well–received in our school was Marianina (see Jon Freeman's unbelievably comprehensive list).
The refrain / chorus went "Marianina , Marianina, come, oh come, and turn us into foam."
Jeez – they don't write 'em like that any more.
Perhaps that's where the seeds were planted Eh?
I would love to make the singing of all these songs compulsory between 5 and 11 years with accent on Scottish ones in Scottish Schools, Welsh ones in Wales etc – but I can already feel as I type - some PC prick ready to batter me down.
They were a great way to learn the English language and how words could and can be used, and putting some melody into your life.
They were also a fabulous antidote to the American songs which were flooding our limited airwaves after the War – Yellow rose of Texas, What did Delaware boys etc. but THAT is another story which starts and ends ( I believe) with the Beatles .Hopefully the Beatles were influenced by the Subject matter – after all it was their era – it would be an interesting question to pose to Sir Paul Macca.

Cheers

Betsy


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Simon Tony
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 09:49 AM

Oh wow,the "turn us into foam" lyric sent me right back! Believe me, they still used Marianina in the mid seventies, and I seem to recall we all loved it. I was born in '67 by the way, and I adore the memories of "Singing Together" on the wireless at school, also "Time and Tune" when we were a little younger. Heady days for sure...


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Ringer
Date: 12 Oct 09 - 10:04 AM

No, no, Young Buchan (your post 11 Sep 07 - 10:31 AM), the programs were not meant for different age-groups -- they had different emphases. Singing Together was just that: singing; Rhythm & Melody and Time & Tune attemped to instill the basics of musical theory (perhaps these two were aimed at different age-groups - R&M had a booklet format similar to Singing Together, that is white booklet of about A5 size, whereas T&T had a bigger, landscape format booklet with bigger writing, bigger staves, etc).

Music & Movement was desperate: I recognise the embarrassment of Compton up-screen (24 Feb 07 - 01:25 PM) who obviously went through the same painful experience as me: being a tree blown by the wind to music, or being a swan to music, etc (along with skipping to music & other similar ridiculousnesses). My embarrassment was heightened to the level of exquisite torture in summer, when we had to do it outside, and a double-decker bus was due past....

But I did enjoy Singing Together.

William Appleby, I think, Compton. I, too, remember "My Love's an Arbutus"; your post implies that you didn't know then what it was all about, Compton: are you wiser now? ('cos I'm not - does that song actually mean anything?)


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Betsy
Date: 12 Oct 09 - 12:18 PM

Ringer - you've just reminded me , I missed the Compton referred post - pretending to be a tree etc - painful is the right word - it was for me at least , terrified that any of my football mates should see me , total embarrassment .

Strange thought about the singing - no Tele , computer, film slides , power point presentations any visual images - just a great big lump of wood called a Radio and imagination.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Andy Muir
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 01:00 PM

Like many of you, I remember the happy days of infant and junior singing in the mid 60s. I have a collection from 1949 to 1968 catalogued in excel. I'm sure other would be interested in viewing it but I'm not sure how best to go about it.
So For GUEST Steve Amor. "Now the green leaves grow.." Is titled "The Song of Farewell", an Austrian Folk Song words by Ursula Vaughan Williams and was in Autumn 1960


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,mark lambert
Date: 04 Apr 10 - 12:00 PM

My earliest memories were in the late seventies early eighties where i remember time and tune and singing together and hosted as i recall by douglas coombes, songs i remember include westering homes,migaldi magaldi,zum gali gali, kalinka, the cuckoo song,one particular series was a play and songbook of ming ming and the lantern dragon sadly i never got to own any, i also remember having to vote for your fave song at end and send them off in post which i remember being put in charge of doing ,but got frowned apon when i forgot to do so . oh what memories


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,ArranBrownButterfly
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 06:28 AM

I recognise several of these songs from the 1960s when I was at Trinity Academy Primary School, Edinburgh. One I'd like to find was 'The Neighbours', which so far I have been unable to locate on the web; I think it may be a translation of a French song. Here are the words of the first verse:

Bread have we none for supper
(Dance as we always do)
Over the way they have some
May we not have some too?

The second and third were similar, beginning respectively 'Wine have we none to cheer us', and 'Fire have we none to warm us'. The last verse was more optimistic and ended:

Over the way they're sighing
We'll dance the evening through.

Ring any bells?


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Andy Muir
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 08:32 PM

To Arran Brown Butterfly
The Neighbours was in Spring 1956 It is a French folk song
Your first verse is correct.
2 Wine we have none for supper,
Dance as we always do!
Over the way they have some,
May we not have some too?
3 Fire we have none to warm us,
Dance as we always do!
Over the way they have some,
May we not have some too?
4 Fun we shall have in plenty,
Dance as we always do!
Over the way they are weeping,
We'll laugh the evening through!


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 05:42 PM

Thank you, Andy Muir. They must have used 'The Neighbours' again in the 1960s. I wonder what the French words are?


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Alban
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 07:14 PM

Ive just noticed that someone is selling 'old' Singing Together, Time & Tune, Music Workshop etc, pupils pamphlets and Teachers Notes on Ebay from early 70's onwards, a bargain!!

Alban


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Teekle
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 03:08 AM

Hi. I've only just found this tread and it brings back so many memories of the top class in primary school - all sitting listening to the massive radio in the corner of the room.

My favourites were Red Sombrero and a song about a Tiger called Tegrey (I may have spelt it incorrectly but that was what we sang). Does anyone know this Tegrey song. I'd love to know the words.

Teekle


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Sara O'Keeffe
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 05:03 PM

How lovely to find fellow Singing Togetherites. I was at school in Kingston-on-Thames in the late 60s and remember many songs from the programmes. It really instilled in me a great love of Folk from an early age. Does anyone remember 'The Zucturn Monster' (a variation of the Derby Ram'), or 'The Worples'? Also 'Where have you been to, Peter?' and 'Over the Rolling Plains' were some of my faves! Even better still, I remember a man coming into school with guitar singing us such songs as 'Och On, Tis pretty to be in Ballinderry' I've far too easily fallen in love with guitar-playing men ever since! It must be that golden seed. . .


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Sue Grainger
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 04:26 PM

Hooray!!Have found 'Marianina' at last. I sang it regularly in 1959 aged 8 to my new sister, parked in her pram next to my swing in the garden, though it didn't seem to work as a lullaby.... Little Red Bird of the Lonely Moor didn't work any better.
I have been trying to remember the words to Marianina recently but been frustrated by gaps- eventually tried Google and found this site. Yum.
Now I intend many happy hours ahead, supplementing my one precious but dog-eared Singing Together booklet.
Thanks everyone - amazing how powerful our music memories are.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 04:50 PM

Guest Teekle, there was a song called 'El Tigre' from the Peru booklet (forget its actual title) but that was Singing Together in the seventies (did it with my class)


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 04:59 PM

The chorus was:-
Watch for his coming, El Tigre
Silent as nightfall, El Tigre,
Swifter than sunflash, El Tigre,
Lord of the jungle, El Tigre. (It wasn't a tiger, though, but a jaguar!)


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Nov 11 - 12:37 PM

oh kiji was a hooser bold a hooser bold was he
he fought so bravely for the Zhar
the pride of the cavelry


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 12 - 06:31 PM

what is the date for the tortilla vendor, i remember that from around 1980, but would love to know the exact date, i know it was on radio 4, any of the other shows around 1980/81 id love to know about


does any radio recodings exist ??

pete seaton


peteseaton2012@aol.com


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 13 Feb 12 - 07:01 PM

Spring 1981 is given in this thread: History - BBC's 'Singing Together'

Mick


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Kevin the gerbil
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 02:23 PM

Fascinating and very enjoyable thread this, which I found today when I googled "Singing Together", after I had been talking with a friend about being in the school choir. Singing Together was the brainchild of William "Pip" Appleby (mentioned earlier) who was based in Doncaster and who drew the singers in the Singing Together Choir from local schools in the surrounding area - and possibly further afield, but I'm not sure about that. I remember Singing Together and Sing at Sight from my primary school days in Doncaster in the late 50s/early 60s. The song lists given above are absolute gems btw - "Oh 'tis my delight on a shining night, when the copper's not about..." (With apologies to Rambling Sid Rumpo).

I know that for a while at least in the early-to-mid 1960's they used the Library in the then Doncaster Grammar School to record the shows for the BBC because the acoustics - rather ironic I know for a library - were considered to be very good. William Appleby is still remembered with great affection by many people in Doncaster as the man who brought the possibility of a good musical education to several generations of essentially working class children. And his work is continued still - and very successfully - in the town by the exceptional staff in the Music Centre named after him.

Thanks again all!


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Guest, Naomi Hartley
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 01:39 PM

I've just stumbled across this fantastic thread. I was helping my son with some homework which mentioned China and the Silk Road. The following song then for some inexplicable reason popped into my head after last being sung circa 1974\5 at James Dixon Primary School, Penge SE20. 'When Marco Polo reached Venice with chinese silks and gold, no citizen would believe him, or trust the tales in told. Travellers tales, travellers tales, you can't believe in travellers, travellers tales!' I googled to lyrics and got a hit on this website. Ah the memories of listening to the radio in our music lesson at school- Happy Days! Thanks for the memories.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,ian1943
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 03:13 PM

I am 68 and was in a junior school from the late forties until the mid fifties and I remember our Tuesday (I think)morning broadcasts on the school valve radio of 'Singing Together' which was hosted, if that would be the word in those far-off days by William Appleby who, my understanding is,ended up as the Director of Music for Warwickshire. Had we but known then we were given a fine repertoire of English traditional songs. Some of us, in later years, recognised the debt we owe to these broadcasts and returned to the songs. William Appleby is a hero!


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 09:09 AM

It was called Paul's Little Hen.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Grandma W
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 10:59 AM

I loved 'Singing together'. I remember Football crazy,Johnny Todd, Elsie Marley, Bonie was a warrior. I have just been babysitting for my Granddaughter and sang Johnny Todd to her.I have a growly voice and was never allowed into the choir but 'Singing together' was for everyone and growlers were welcome. I love knowing the words to so many old folk tunes.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST, Hilary - An Oldie
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 08:02 AM

I woke up with the Zucturn song in my head this morning. Remember it well and probably all the other songs in that songbook and all the others from whatever year it was.

Does anyone have those old Time and Tune Books still?


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 09:02 AM

My little sister liberated me a couple when she was in junior school and I wanted more folk music than the local library could provide. I particluarly wanted the words to "Johnny Todd", so this woiuld be somewher around 1967 or so.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 09:10 AM

What was the title of
'Once there was a wild rose gay, on the moorland growing,
Till a careless boy at play chanced to see the tempting spray
On the moorland grow-ow-ing' ?
Sung by a shrill soprano, but nonetheless memorable.

All time favourite was 'Marianina'.

The first song I sang in a folk club c1965 was the chantey Sally Brown which I remembered from ST. Loved all the well-known chanteys.

All done in Donny! Marvellous. I thought all Donny was famous for was the Steam engine sheds. Ah, those were the days!


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 09:24 AM

I fondly remember singing together and when I sing those songs it takes me back to when I learnt them and I can remember the illustrations in the text because the lyrics were entwined around the pictures. It was still going when I left in 68. Singing always more popular than enforced playford dances where I was partnered with a boy due to shortage of girls.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Guest - Betsy
Date: 14 Jan 13 - 07:33 PM

Hi Steve , I wouldn't wish to take issue with you, but I refer you to my post (above) of 24 Aug 09 re:- Marianina (just in case you missed it !) Amazing how one recalls these items of almost insignificant information.
I certainly have no intention of changing your opinion as to the song you enjoyed most.
Cheers
Betsy


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 10:30 AM

Hi Betsy,
Yeah the lyrics are rather airy fairy. It was the tune and chorus I liked.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Snuffy
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 10:48 AM

Steve

I can't recall the English title, but your rose on the moorland song was a translation of Goethe's poem "Röslein auf der Heide", which was later adopted as a folksong in Germany


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 12:03 PM

Heidenröslein
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1771 (1749-1832)

Melodie - Franz Schubert, 1815 (1797-1828)
Melodie - Heinrich Werner, 1829 (1800-1833)

From an earlier Mudcat thread;

Once there was a wild rose gay,
On the moorland growing,
But a careless boy at play,
Chanced to see the tempting spray,
Which the breeze was blowing,
Soft red rose, red rose of may,
On the moorland growing.

Said the boy, "I'll pick you now",
On the moorland growing;
Said the rose, "I'll prick you now,
"That you may remember how
Sad I was at going".
Soft red rose, red rose of May
On the moorland growing.

Roughly then he snatched his prize
On the moorland growing,
After this he'll be more wise,
There before his very eyes,
Blood was freely flowing,
Soft red rose, red rose of may,
On the moorland growing.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 12:09 PM

Appleby was Music advisor in Doncaster. The schools Music Centre there still bears hs name. Oh, yes he was a massive influence on several generations including those who never heard of him but who sang from those booklets.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Geraint
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 09:21 AM

My fiance went to school in the '80s with a music teacher who played these songs on the piano and taught her students to sing along.

She must have carefully saved and preserved the Singing Together books.

There is one song in particular that my better half often sings to herself but we can't find the music, full lyrics or even title anywhere.

This is how she remembers it from the start:

"Take grasses and flowers on midsummer night and bind them into your hair
Laugh up at the man in the moon shining bright down over the pine filled air
Tonight you shall dance on the shores of the lake
With swimming and singing until the daybreak..."

Does anyone know the name of the song? Or have the music?
    Hi, Geraint - please follow this thread over the next few days, and I'm sure somebody will answer.
    -Joe Offer, Mudcat Archivist-


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 06:05 PM

Have just been reading through this thread again, and spotted a reference to a song about Per Spelman. The song began,
"Per Spelman was lucky and had a fine cow.
He wanted to fiddle but didn't know how..."
He ends up selling his cow for "a violin, a violin, a viiiiooooliiin."
But my naughty class used to sing "He wanted to piddle and didn't know how..." Nothing I did or threatened could stop them, probably because I was trying to smother my own giggles every time.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Qudsia
Date: 31 Mar 13 - 09:14 PM

In the woods there lived a pretty turtle dove,
And she coed so sweetly in her nest above.
Oh, I loved that pretty dove so much, I hoped one day,
She would gladly leave her nest and come with me to stay.

Birdy dear I'll give you everything you wish,
You shall feed always from a silver dish.
But no matter how I begged she only said "coe coe"
Gently shook her pretty head and away she flew


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Paul O'Neill
Date: 05 Apr 13 - 06:47 AM

That is the most bizarre thing, the same thing has just happened to me. I'm 43 this year and I must have last heard that song in my first year at Junior school. I remember the pictures in the booklet that accompanied it were really distrubing.

You had a better memory of the lyrics than me. I could only remember when Marco Polo reached Venice with China Silks and Gold. and the chorus.

Great memories


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Apr 13 - 07:54 AM

From: GUEST,henryp - PM
Date: 15 Jan 13 - 12:03 PM

Heidenröslein
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1771 (1749-1832)

Melodie - Franz Schubert, 1815 (1797-1828)
Melodie - Heinrich Werner, 1829 (1800-1833)

From an earlier Mudcat thread;

Once there was a wild rose gay,
On the moorland growing,
But a careless boy at play,
Chanced to see the tempting spray,
Which the breeze was blowing,
Soft red rose, red rose of may,
On the moorland growing.


Lyrics and scansion seem reminiscent of one I learnt in school. Well, I say learnt, but I'm getting stuck for words now. But it does seem to be a different translation of the same song:

Saw a youth a morning rose,
Blooming in the heather,
Gently as her leaves unclose,
Straight to gaze on her he goes,
'Twas in Summer weather.
Roselein Roselein, Roselein, Rose,
Rose among the heather

Cheers
Nigel


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Bluebell
Date: 10 Jun 14 - 02:20 AM

This forum is amazing! I'm an OAP now living in Canada and today, for some unknown reason, as I was working in the garden I suddenly started singing 'Boney was a Warrior' but couldn't remember all the words. I recalled that it was from a 'Singing Together' booklet, did a Google search, found all the lyrics and this site. Such memories from the 1950's - Mr. Nixon, our teacher at a tiny village school near Manchester, twiddling with the knobs on an old pre-war radio trying to tune into the BBC; it was such a disappointment when he couldn't find the station (Home Service?)and we had to do without our singing session.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Annemieke
Date: 26 Jul 14 - 03:06 PM

Hello everyone, I'm from the Netherlands (so excuse me for my poor English) and I'm 25 years old. I was about 9 years old when I learned an English song in English class about rain and things you can't do because of the rain. I looked it up and came across this forum. It's called The Rain Song. I would be so happy if someone is willing to send me the sheetmusic, so I could sing it correctly to my son. He loves the song so much, I have to sing it every night to him, but I partially can't remember the melody. So, if anyone has the music of The Rain Song, please respond :)

Annemieke (Anna Mary)


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: danensis
Date: 26 Jul 14 - 03:15 PM

Annemieke,

Not the Led Zeppelin one I take it?


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Val
Date: 20 Aug 14 - 04:52 AM

Hello!

What a brilliant Forum - I found it because, pottering around the house yesterday, I suddenly found myself singing "Handsome John Brown", which became a total earworm! Probably the last time I heard it was circa 1957 at my small Church Primary School, St John the Baptist, Smallbridge, Rochdale, under the aegis of Mr Harry Corser - wonderful headmaster, and Manchester Morris Man. So I googled the lyrics, and was amazed to find that I was almost word perfect (!)

I have often wondered if primary school kids still learn this kind of Folk/Popular music. I really hope they do - it was life-enhancing then, and still is...

Best wishes.


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: GUEST,Sue
Date: 28 Oct 14 - 02:10 AM

I just stumbled across 2 "time & tune" booklets in the local oxfam shop. Attracted by the woodcut illustrations i spent a whole pound on them... now to try out on my trusty recorder. They include: As i was crossing Berwick Bridge; Skye boat song; Blow the man down; Come all you young sailors; Hilo somebody; Bobby Shafto; Donkey riding (1959). 2nd book: Ferdinando the donkey; the quarrelsome bells; London bridge is broken down; Jackie the sailor; Gloucestershire wassail; a babe is born in bethlehem (1964). Happy to scan and share if someone can tell me how / where to do this on mudcat :-)


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Oct 14 - 02:19 AM

If you're interested in sharing, Sue, contact me and we'll work something out.
-Joe Offer-
joe@mudcat.org


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Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 28 Oct 14 - 10:10 AM

100.
AS I started this thread (one of my most successful, it seems!), I feel I ought to claim the century!
RtS


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