Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO

Subject: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 08:57 PM

Ok this is the NEW Holmfirth Festival of Folk thread as the First was getting a too big. Please, Please let's fill this one with information about Festival related matters.

So that first time visitors to Holmfirth Festival of Folk can retrieve information about the festival quickly. If you would like to look at the old thread Click HERE

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 09:12 PM

CLICK HERE TO GO TO THE HOLMFIRTH FESTIVAL OF FOLK WEBSITE

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 09:17 PM

Hope that's OK for you Cath?
Keep up the good work it's going to be a brilliant festival.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: holmfirther
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 03:41 AM

Well done Cath for getting the programme done..On sale now for a quid..and its very good..If your not local and want one..I am going to have it weighed so that we know the value of a stamped addressed envelope..I will do this on Tuesday as everyone 'in the know' is on a religeous break..

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Folkiedave
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 03:48 AM

Having just posted to the "Affected by the Licensing Act" thread - it has occurred to me to ask the question, "Have all the pubs holding sessions got the appropriate license?"

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 04:33 AM

Thanks for doing this Tyke.

Don't worry Dave that has all been thought about - the pubs have all the legal bits that are necessary and PRS is sorted.

I've already got one order for a programme - I'm being sent a stamped addressed envelop to post it out.

Anyone who has seen the latest fRoots will have noticed that we are down as having the Peatbog Faeries on the guest list - this must have come from one of the very early press releases when we thought we had but sadly we haven't. We do have all the others mentioned.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther..
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 06:46 AM

How much is the value of the stamp from the person requesting a programme via mail..?..I send stuff out all the time and have to weigh it or it might not get there..

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 11:10 AM

Don't know the answer to that one Holmfirther.
All I can assume is that they will put on sufficient to cover the cost or they will be paying the difference + £1.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: holmfirther
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 11:42 AM

Just sold a programme....

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 01:08 PM

:)

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 02:18 PM

Well I can top that - I've just given 20 to Phil to take to Barnsley this weekend.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 08:09 PM

How about some information about Disabled Access to the different venues in Holmfirth?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:56 AM

Good idea.
I'll get on to it later this afternoon.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 11:12 AM

Peter is going to post all the information about disabled access to premises when he gets chance. He says he knows all the pubs in Holmfirth by heart!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: joshuarobbo
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 02:35 PM

Just cauht up a little bit on the future events in may . wow .................

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 06:27 PM

Sheila and I were stopped in the street this afternoon and asked for a programme while Shiela was delivering them to the local shops.
You can't do better than that can you?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 06:20 PM

Just a reminder - if you know of any traditional (as in the ones who sing the local songs) singers from the Holmfirth/Sheffield areas please get in touch so that they can be part of the Yorkshire Garland Group recording session that Ray Padgett is organising for the Old Bridge on Saturday afternoon.
This is a project established to collate, gather and preserve Yorkshire songs in up to date accessible formats including the internet. It's funded by the Heritage Lottery Fund, Nationwide Building Society and the Countryside Agency - not the usual supporters of folk music but welcome none the less.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: holmfirther
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 05:51 AM

Morning..!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: r.padgett
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 06:18 AM

Thanks Cath

Roger Hincliffe (son of Trad singer Frank)+ Gordon Holgate, Will Noble and John Cocking if he can get away from his golf club duties, Ken Hinchliffe expected to attend so far

Also needed are those who can join in the choruses!

Any Holmfirth locals who sing any of the old songs (further afield too)but Yorkshire!

For Sat May 6th Old Bridge recording with Steve Gardham and Ray Padgett at 1pm

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 06:59 AM

Hey Up, Ray ave tha given young Mick Hawood a Bell in Whitby. He might come with his Bag o Shoddy collection from Batly if tha dose. Wendy Price and her Daughters they should ave a few reght old un's as well tha nose she's out in Whitby an all. Talking about reght old songs how's about the Elliot's int they from t republic of Barnsley?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: r.padgett
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 01:25 PM

Mick knows about the Garland but we do have other concerts for different areas projected ~ not too sure if he will contribute and I do already have DAT recordings but will not use without his permission

Wendy is already in the know and she is in Whitby too, and she has given info on Tommy Daniels, and Bill was as early as Mick H really

Elliots (D & D) not yet approached

What we are trying to do is record the earliest people first /traditional in this first tranch and then revival singers later and those still alive!!

Believe me we do have a great deal of material to collate etc but very interested in Sheff/Holmfirth first. Lots already recorded but need permission from all sorts of ppl, recording companies and collectors etc

Ray

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 12:41 PM

With a bit of luck and a following wind we should have the corrections/updates done to the web site in the very near future so don't forget to keep looking to find out what's going on.
If you want the definitive version you can always send a couple of quid and I'll happily post you a programme and put the change into the kitty.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: holmfirther
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 11:42 AM

Huddersfield examiner reports tonight that next years festival 2007 will be held in Shepley if the folks from Shepley allow...Thats a realy posative statement..Well Done.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Alexis
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 05:08 PM

A Holmfirth Folk type Festival in SHepley? whatever next? Seems to me like (assuming everything goes to plan) you lot might be busy agin next year. Leastways you don't seem to have pissed off most of the business folk yet - although if you did p++s off the miserable tw+t from Sids cafe who always winges about dancing in the church "yard" and assumes that the lay by is his private bus stop and ice cream stall, I would be thrilled.
Is real beer still on for the Picturedrome (as mentioned in a post a long long time ago)? T'would be really appreciated, as long as it's not going to be warm or thwaites or black sheep or ........

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 05:56 PM

I've never been able to understand how he can get away with parking a bus and an ice cream van there without police or traffic wardens doing anything about it.
He doesn't have a funny handshake and rolled up trouser leg does he?
Have the business folk p**ssed us off> Now that is another question.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 10:13 PM

Am I getting paranoid or losing my marbles or what?
I can't believe that there has NOT been an almighty roar of complaint and dissent about the feature "Folk festival '07 set to move to Shepley" in Wed nights Huddersfield Examiner.

Wake up people! - This is an outright case of mischief and sabotage by a Mr John Taylor which is fully intended to plant misinformation and confusion in readers minds and harm this years Holmfirth Festival of Folk. A festival that many people on this thread have worked their socks off for many months now.

Please note! In this feature it says "The Holmfirth Folk Festival could be on the move...to Shepley!....The long-running festival is taking a break this year but is hoping to be back in 12 months time. Mr taylor said "They're not holding it this year while they reorganise themselves and then the plan is they will come to Shepley next year. They were finding it difficult to find suitable places to have as a campsite and for events because there weren't enough sites available"

For a start MANY readers reading this who are NOT aware of the change this year from Holmfirth Folk Festival to Holmfirth Festival of Folk will not make the connection and will naturally assume that
the whole event is off this year. They will tell other people and those people will tell other people and so on and so on and so forth.
Bad news always travels 10 times faster than good news so word spreads very quickly!

MANY readers will also have not bothered to read the whole article and will have missed the wee bit at the end that says "Volunteers in Holmfirth are holding a three-day folk extravaganza as a replacement next month while the original festival takes a year off."

This does not mention Holmfirth Festival of Folk, the dates of the Festival, just how big this years festival has become and how it compares just as equally with "the original festival". It also refers to a "folk extravaganza". This term has never been used in any P.R for this years festival and again is used to divert and distract and confuse the reader so they haven't a clue what is actually going on.

The reference to "volunteers in Holmfirth" is fully intended to downsize this years event in the mind of the reader and make it appear to be a small-fry event that will have no comparison at all to previous events.

I nearly rest my case, but if you can now see how this article could have caused severe damage to our cause it will have been worth the effort.
It's now DAMAGE LIMITATION TIME!!
Their broadside has caught us in the bows and it could sink us (but I doubt it)
But we do now need to repel this with P.R in The Huddersfield Examiner and all the local papers to put the story straight.
Cath, this is your mission,should you wish to accept it!

As a footnote: The Holmfirth Folk Festival is suggested to be held in Shepley next year ".... because there are plenty of fields away from the main centre of population....venues under consideration so far are two marquees in local fields...." (quotes from The same Hudds Examiner article).

What? Are they really serious? Can they really be serious?
They are having a laugh surely! I've just had a fit of laughing....sorry!
The Holmfirth Folk Festival in Shelley? The Shelley Folk Festival?
The Holmfirth and Shelley Folk Festival? ..and where the hell is shelley?

I think the festival is in your safe hands next year folks.
And long may you reign.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:17 AM

I couldn't agree more with you about the timing and intentions of the piece in the Examiner which is also going to be run in this week's Express I am told.

However all is not lost as the Examiner will be running a sizeable (I am promised) piece on Friday about the Jake Thackray Exerience which has been prepared for some time and will run a feature some time in the week running up to the festival.

The Express will run the usual detailed piece with associated advertising next Friday.

A few letters to the Examiner from people like you Soldier Boy wouldn't go amiss so that people can see that it isn't just the usual suspects involved in this.

Thanks again for all the support on this forum.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Ned Ludd
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 05:54 AM

Well, that was a lovely piece of misdirection by the Hudds Examiner! Glad I wasn't the only one Who thought so Soldier boy. I tink Cath's right, we should let the paper know our views. It should be pointed out that a Shepley festival may or may not be a good idea, but that it would lose the character provided by Holmfirth, and apart from the campsite, would have very few facilities... proper comfortable venues, places to eat good food at reasonable prices, banking facilities, etc.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 06:28 AM

Well the Holmfirth Folk Festival had posted its intention to look for a Green Field site in 2007

Beverley Festival had ideas to go to the Racecourse I believe the year before they didnt have one

It is I feel an idea to make the Festival much bigger and move way from a Peoples Festival and away from Homfirth pubs

But is that what everyone else wants?

I dunno

Ray

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Ned Ludd
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 09:58 AM

Ever the voice of reason Ray!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:45 AM

The real ale bar has been built..awaiting for all the bits and bobs..We are selling Taylors Landlord and Bitter from the 5th of May onwards untill the end of May..Check the gigs out on www.picturedrome.net..Its a wicked line up...As for the Shepley thing in the examiner..........................If they can pull it off on the same weekend they are clever poeple...However..If they dont who pays for it all..who cares.What does it tell you about the regime that are running the HFF LTD.....As I see it if they hold an event in Shepley on the same weekend..Its simple make ours a better event to attend, after all competition is a healthy state.....To acheive this, work begins on May the 9th 2006 after the Seth Lakeman gig [plus supports] then its Janis Ian on the 11th,then its, then its, then its................etc.....

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Hamish
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 12:00 PM

And only today someone was looking on the web for details and found the "other" festival's web-site. Didn't notice the "2005" date, and was suitably confused. I guess you've thought of this, but is it possible to ask the "other" festival to put some sort of explanation and link to the 'ickle volunteer festival?

--
Hamish
www.hamishcurrie.me.uk

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 02:46 PM

If only Hamish!
They have been resolutely telling people that there is no festival in Holmfirth in 2006, despite the fact that they knew that we were doing it.
What they mean is that 'they' aren't running one this year so therefore it doesn't count.
We made it clear from the start that we were only doing it because they weren't but it looks like they have come out into the open and shown that they had no intention of coming back to Holmfirth and what they want is a bigger festival.
Well good luck to them is all I can say - and to the people of Shepley because I don't think they have found the answer there.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:37 PM

On a previous subject of P.R and promotion for the HFofF (especially since HFFLtd are now mischievously misleading people into believing that there is NO Festival this year!!) where are all the posters promoting this years event?
I've seen very few on my travels, yet would have expected to have seen them all over the place:
e.g:pubs,clubs,hotels,entertainment venues,libraries,schools,
supermarkets and convenience stores,newsagents,chip shops,post offices,butchers,bakers and candlestick makers.....
Another good eye-catcher to make sure all the locals and passing traffic know about it is to put up those signs at the side of busy roads in and out of the area that carry the message on signs spread about 20 feet apart. E.G: "HOLMFIRTH" >> "FESTIVAL" >> "OF FOLK" >>
"5,6,7 MAY 2006". This will mean getting permission from The Council or Highways Dept or Police etc and having time for the application process so it may be too late now,or is it?
Most of the marketing I have seen (excluding features in the press) has been to see both sides of the HFofF Flyers blue-tacked to walls in pubs etc. This is definately better than nothing at all but they are very busy with information and do not stand out very well.
So, back to my earlier question; where are all the posters?
Were enough posters printed and if not, is it possible to get many more printed and distributed?
You are going to think I'm a right moaning minnie and I apologise. I know that a hell of a lot of work, by a valient few, has gone into making this festival happen.
If there are more posters and you want them distributed please let me know via a P.M and I will be happy to help out.
I just want this years Festival to be an outstanding success.
I also want to ensure that misleading propoganda put out by officiado saboteurs of HFFLtd is not allowed to succeed by keeping people away from the Festival because they have been wrongly led to believe that there is no Festival this year.
Every piece of promotion and marketing that lets people know what a great Festival has been put on for them this year is a pointed stick in the eyes of those who would rather see it fail, or preferably, not take place at all!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:54 PM

Well let's get back to Holmfirth 2006. I decided to have a birds eye View of Holmfirth last night. I flew over at about nine with the aid of Google Earth it looked to me like a great place to hold a festival. Lot's of Pub's, Restaurants, Shops, and Wine Bars a Market a Cinema a Swimming Pool. All that within a stones throw of some beautiful country walks. My thanks to the people of Holmfirth for letting us visit and keep Traditional Music Song and dance Alive in 2006. Oh did I mention two theatres, Fish and chips Shops and Café's, Curry Houses I could go on! Tour Bus Museums Art gallery, and an Ice Cream van. If I missed any thing out The Tourist Information can answer all your questions.
PS
Banks, Library, Hotels, B & B's, Public Loo's, Donna Kebabs…………
HOLMFIRTH FESTIVAL OF FOLK 2006

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 07:18 PM

Its all a load of tosh.........Everybody knows that the old festival organisers have made a balls up..By having their heads so far up their backsides that know one wanted anything to do with them..further more any body in the folk world knows that there is a festival this year more than ever..There has been more in the press about this years festival than ever..'they' the other crowd have tried with vairious peices of missinformation trying to impress upon the public at large that there will be no festival..Gladly everyone is talking about this years festival..So there's no real problem...Holmfirth this year will have a folk festival and maybe next year there will be a folk festival in Shepley........The poeple putting together next years festival of Shepley realy need to study out-takes.....Balls ups' make us all laugh

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 07:22 PM

My sides are still aching...I wonder what Ellis's farm think of this stuff in the paper..as for the sludge and junk ..HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...............Laughing policeman will go down a bomb.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Ned Ludd
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 05:02 AM

I have to agree with some of Soldierboy's points.
I was at a folk club in uppermill the other night and people were asking me what was happening with Holmfirth. The impression was that they had heard conflicting rumours. The power of misdirection!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 05:15 AM

I have to say that we are valiantly trying to get posters out but it is right that we probably don't have enough - there is a subtle plot to photocopy some more. We ran out of flyers some time ago but there are 10,000 out there somewhere!

We have had lots in the local press and more is to come next week and the week after.

On a very positive note - Sheila, Carol and I went to the Open Mic session at th Sculpture Lounge last night where several of the festival performers were performing and it was an excellent night. James Cannon is brilliant, Ged Farricy was very good as was John Senior and the bit of Bay of Biscuits who was there was hilarious.
They meet every two weeks and I would recommend it highly!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 08:24 AM

Shepley Milk Festival..............HA HA HA HA HA HA Brilliant

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Squeezer
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 09:47 AM

Looking at all the bad feeling that seems to be flowing between what after all's said and done are folk lovers to folk lovers, I feel more like BOO HOO HOO than HA HA HA..........

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 11:46 AM

Folk Lovers or not..The Poeple that have been running the festival over the past few years have treated a lot of local folk lovers very badly and therefore dont want anything to do with them..KMC officers at the cash disstribution point are staying well clear from them..There is also a local accountant that has just taken some interest in the matter....Where's the proof of spending Holmfirth Folk Festival Limited.And as for the current organisers good luck as you have the support from the wider world.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: joshuarobbo
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 12:25 PM

Who are these faceless clowns , lack of a figurehead .

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Holmfirther
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 01:55 PM

Hello again..I am back on line..Its got a bit interesting to say the least...On Saturday I am going to walk about village and 'suss' out all the places and venues in order to assist the infirm and dissabled acces issues'..Any one that can shed any light or advise before I post it on here I would be very gratefull..This info will also be used over THE HOLMFIRTH FESTIVAL OF FOLK weekend..and as for the articles in the local papers..The organisers of the said possible festival at Shepley..Is this the best they can do ?..No dialogue with us in the village,no serious representation just statements..Its no way to operate properly..I am of the idea that they want no part in Holmfirth at all..If this is the case simply ignore them they will go away..However the door is allways open as we have stated all along.and the village not only looks forward to this years festival but all the festivals in Holmfirth to come.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Holmfirther
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 01:57 PM

Went to Ingleton for the day..Came accross loads of sheep..There were several with disstinctive features..Any one from the folk world been there lately ?......[Sorry to raise the sheep thing but the forum needs a bit of junk]

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Rupert
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 05:05 PM

Having just scanned through your material regarding the forthcoming festival and I must comment on the brillo idea to paste a PDF on the web for the programme - so much easier to read than the previous format.   Why wasn't this thought of before?

I wish you all well for the festival - ignoring some of the gitches experienced on the website or was it just poor communications between committee and website constructor - hope you get everything together in the future as you obviously know where you are going.
Rupert

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 11:24 AM

What a good looking event thats going to happen in Holmfirth..Cant wait we'll be there along with the masses...Wee done to all that have got it together..

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 01:02 PM

The market Hall has dissabled toilets at Hollowgate level.There are no toilets at Huddersfield road level.The Corner House Cafe has a step up into the cafe and there is a dining area to the left with no steps. Its waiter service so one would not need to negotiate the steps..There are no dissabled toilets however there are some accross the road [10 meters]..The staff at the cafe will assist should the need arise.The White Hart 1st floor level access is from the rear of the pub on Daisy Lane, there is no toilets of any kind at this level but there is toilets downstairs but no dissabled toilets, should the need arise use the public ones opposite the cafe again 10 meters from the front of The White Hart...Carniceria has a 2 inch step and then its level all the way to the dissabled unisex toilet.The Nook has a 6 inch step to get in and two further steps of the same size to get to the toilets..there are no dissabled toilets.Le Caveuxe has a flight of steps to both levels from the road and no dissabled toilets.The Picturedrome has level access from the front, but now there is step to get into the seated area of about 3inch..there is a dissabled unisex toilet.The Old Bridge Hotel has two steps to get in at the front,however to the rear of the hotel there is another access point with no steps..There is no dissabled toilets..Herveys has level access and dissabled toilets...............For all our attention..The festival office will be able to assist and advise anyone that has a queerie of this nature..At the moment St.Johns will be providing first aid, however they do need a place at ground level that they can call theirs' for the weekend..I am hoping that KMC market poeple will let us use their office at the front at Huddersfield road side..But on the day the festival office will have a pointer by then [I hope]

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 03:03 PM

Not in the programme yet a Saturday Night Musicians and Singers Session in the Elephant and Castle on Saturday Night.

Click Here for The Holmfirth Festival of Folk Information Pages

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 05:25 PM

I'm afraid it won't be going on the web site Tyke!

You have no idea what it has taken to get the timetable on in a format that is correct and readable and I daren't ask for any more changes now!!!

As Rupert noticed, the timetable is now on the web site as a PDF which should come out as an A4 so you can cross check what is on at any particular time.

I'm afraid the Elephant wasn't confirmed when I did it and there isn't room for another venue on the chart (and still fit on the page) so we will just have to make sure that people know through another source. And besides the Elephant is supposed to be an unofficial venue so it shouldn't be on should it?

I hope that all makes sense - I've had a busy day singing Sacred Harp music in Kegworth - wonderful stuff.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 05:17 PM

Just learnt that lots of programmes were sold at Barnsley last weekend and they are going down well locally so it's all looking very promising.
All the musicians I have been in contact with today are looking forward to the weekend and it's all coming together nicely.
I hope I get to find out who all these nice people like Raggytash, Soldier Boy and Rupert are over the weekend. I know who Holmfirther and Tyke are and Nedd Ludd has already confessed. I'm not sure about Dozy Rozy so I hope she comes and says hello.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Dozy Rozy.
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 05:21 PM

Dear Cath,
Dozy rozy here.I shall be more than happy to say hello.I've been on my best behaviour for aeons, cos someone said the sidetracks were off-putting.I look forward to meeting you.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: fi_in_nz
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 05:30 PM

So where is the Mudcat get together going to take place then Cath so's we can all put faces to names - I know Raggytash adn Dozy Rozy - not sure about the rest!!! ;-) F

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 06:26 PM

All the Mudcatters are invited to the Fringe event in the Elephant and Castle that's on the Saturday Night. Dozy Rosy can eat crisps to her hearts content in the Elephant. As long as she will sing the song about the two white horses that we used to sing at school;-)

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Apr 06 - 11:27 PM

Which song is that? Give me a clue and I'll sing it with a mouthfull of crisps on the go!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 04:01 AM

What time in the Elephant, steer clear of that George Clarke ~ probably doing a Shanty thing (noisy person)


Hello George!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 04:09 AM

I won't be able to make the Elephant on Saturday night because I shall be reminiscing with the Jake Thackray Experience in the White Hart at that time.
If I'm still awake I'll probably then go over to the open session at the Old Bridge afterwards because rumour has it they are going to be serving until about 2.00 all weekend - not that I will be drinking (!) but it means that things will be going on.
I do plan to join the Barnsley crowd in the Bridge on Friday night to get things started.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Holmfirther
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:04 AM

Morning.................

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 10:48 AM

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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:29 AM

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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 03:28 PM

The song about the White Horses, you do know it hic! Is the one we use to sing at school? It's the most requested song by drunken females whilst the drunken males request that they sing the Wild Rover.

As for the packet of crisps well you will have to ask Dozy Rozy although I might ask her to find Ray Padgett, after his last cutting remark, and eat her crisps. I'm staring to regret asking Cath not to send him to Henrys to run a Singer Round over the weekend.

Don't now I'm writing this I think I'll go over to Barnsley Folk Club and give Ray's ears a bashing. If you don't know where Barnsley Folk Club is it's HERE!!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:42 PM

Notice for happy campers for Holmfirth - there's still space for tents but all caravan and camper van spaces are booked for both Friday and Saturday.

It also looks like an extra session is being planned for Saturday teatime in the Sculpture Lounge (soon to be relaunched as the Canvas Bar I believe) on Upper Bridge with James Cannon and various other regulars and friends of the excellent Open Mic sessions that happen there. Watch this space - I'll update when something gets sorted.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: dozy rozy
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:58 PM

I never went to school with you,Tyke.I'm a good 20 years younger.So whats the song? Is it:-
On white horses let me ride away,
To a land of dreams so far away,
Let me run
To the sun,Ect Ect
I hope not.
I have been exceedingly drunk since coming of age a couple of years ago, but NEVER drunk enough to ask for that!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 06:28 PM

Is this a reference shooting whisky ?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 08:55 PM

Hi folks, it's all coming together and looking like it's going to be a great weekend. I'm looking forward to it.

To reinforce Cath's message earlier about the mischievous and sabateur article in the Huddersfield Examiner: "Folk festival '07 set to move to Shepley" (Wed 19 April) can I implore Mudcatters to respond to this by emailing a letter to the Examiner at: "[e-mail] ". This article deliberately sets out to mislead the general public into believing that there is no Folk Festival this year and is the work of organisers of the previous Holmfirth Folk Festival Ltd who are pi**ed off that good community -minded people have stepped in this year to fill the breach left by them. Just doubly reinforce the message that there is indeed a great Festival this year from 5-7 of May 2006.
The more letters; the more publicity for this event.
This article was below the belt and has Joe Public confused, not knowing if there is FolK Festival in Holmfirth or not this year!
Bad blood or what from the previous organising committee?

Cath, you can't miss me! I'm the bloke in the red army jacket and pith helmet ( hence " Soldier Boy"!) that plays the snair drum with the Slubbing Billys Morris Team. Try to catch us dancing out over the weekend and I will look forward to saying hello to you.
If not dancing out I'll be in the Nook!!
Chris Carter.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 04:11 AM

Thanks Solder Boy I will most certainly be looking out for you!

My letter was in Friday's Exminer pointing out that there is in fact a festival and just because a certain organisation aren't doing it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

There should be a good spread in this week's weekly paper as they are doing the usual pullout with advertising and the Examiner will be running a special feature which usually appears during the week rather than with the usual 'features' on Friday.

So there should be no further confusion!!

Except of course within the committee who are getting to the point of wondering whether they are coming or going or should in fact have started at all! No but seriously everything is coming together and looking good.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 04:28 AM

Stay positive Cath!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 04:58 AM

So Soldier Boy has a red coat and Pith hat, me I've got a beer gut, goatee beard, moustache and bald head, should be easy to spot amongst all those folkies

Raggytash (Nick)

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:28 AM

I'll be wearing a pith hat ...I'm going to knick soldier boys

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 07:52 AM

Holmfirth Festival of Folk...MAY 5,6 and 7.2006

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: fi_in_nz
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 08:55 AM

A quick question - are any of the singaround sessions in non smoking venues? (I carry a one year old on my back most of time and since he's just had bronchitis I'm not risking smoky places - actually I wouldn't even if he hadn't just been sick)...... Roll on next year so that the kids can come too. Cheers F

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 10:45 AM

As far as I am aware they are all smoking permitted in all venues'..Until it becomes law it is impossible to deal with..I dont know about Crag Rats concert..Waking The Witch [tickets are required]..This particular concert is in the theatre I think..You could phone em'..01484 691323 and check..

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: r.padgett
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 01:15 PM

I will most certainly ask all in the Bridge function room not to smoke during the Barnsley Folk club session (Fri) and the recording session on Saturday pm (as you say still not illegal)

I dont remember whether this is a No Smoking venue normally, but certainly Barnsley Folk Club is no smoking in our separate room upstairs

Our recent Easter do was No Smoking and helped me greatly to last out the weekend without the sooty build up, and loss of lung capacity I need to sing

The rest of the pub (Old Bridge) will no doubt be smoking ~ this is really an element which is down to common sense and if ppl are smoking I tend to go elsewhere

I do hope that daft comments on smoking whether for or against are avoided as I have had it in the neck from both pro and con and does nothing to help things work smoothly

Smoking in open pubs yes! Controlled environments please be sensible and care for those who dont smoke!!

PLEASE
Ray

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Guest..
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:57 PM

Old Bridge Hotel are having a raffel..Its worth about £350.00 or there abouts..The prize is a weekend for two at the hotel all inclusive..All the proceeds are going to THE HOLMFIRTH FESTIVAL OF FOLK.........................................................2006......What a good idea..

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 08:53 PM

I spoke to a chap today who lives near Holmfirth village.
He knows I am in a local morris side and he told me how disappointed he was that there was no folk festival in Holmfirth this year.
Apparently he had read something in the Holme Valley Express very recently which definately said there was no festival.

So how much more deliberate misinformation and sabotage is being put out by the increasingly sad,pathetic and desperate shadows of people that once organised the Holmfirth Folk Festival Ltd?

If I come across these skulking traitors to the folk cause I'll put them in the stocks and let them be derided and ridiculed by the whole village they have badly let down and betrayed.

P.S: Do we have any stocks in Holmfirth?...or gallows..guillotine..ducking stool..torture racks... vlad the impaler..thumb screws..tickle sticks ??

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:07 PM

I know, I'll get Johnny Spitfire into attack mode and he'll bomb them to hell !!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 02:26 AM

Morning..Hayseed-dixie appearing live at The Picturedrome on July 10th..[www.picturedrome.net]

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:19 AM

A stock making workshop sounds like a good idea!
My information from yesterday is that the feature in the Examiner will be this Friday which suggests that it may be fighting for space with the rest of the Friday Features but let's live in hope!

Anyway on the smoking issue.
It is something that has been briefly talked about and I'm glad Ray has said what he has about the Old Bridge because it is what I would have suggested.
The gigs upstairs in the White Hart will also be non smoking.
I would assume that the ceilidhs in the Market Hall on Saturday night and Sunday afternoon will also be non smoking.
I agree with other comments on the other pubs - I would love to do something about it but I don't think we can yet.
Hope that helps.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 05:28 AM

Any one wanting to purchase niccorette in all its forms..see me..Cant wait to kick the habit..Look forward to the new law taking effect...Dont however have a clue about how the law will be instrumented...Imagine asking a gorrila to put his fag out or leave..That should be fun..

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 06:08 AM

Da Daaarr.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 08:26 AM

Da Daar

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 08:58 AM

Da Daarrr

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: squeezeboxhp
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 08:59 AM

did it really come as a surprise to anyone that the dog in the manger attitude prevailed in the village. they have been at it for many years perfecting curmudgingleyness, eg "come away from the fire in the tap room nobody can see the fire" in an emty pub and that was 40 years ago.
but i am looking forward to being there i feel it could be one of those festivals like they used to be in the 60's but nostalgia is not what it used to be is it.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 09:21 AM

Excuse me for not understanding exactly what you mean..Whilst there are plenty of dogs in Holmfirth... Mangers are a bit thin on the ground..and what does comeuglinessthingy mean ?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 10:08 AM

Dictionaries ........... wonderful things dictionaries to find the meanings of the words in the English language

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 10:46 AM

I'll assist....Squeezeboxhp is refering to : CURMUDGEONLY.
A "Curmudgeon" is a bad-tempered or miserly person [16th century.; origin unknown]. So curmudgeonly(correct spelling) (adj) is to act or behave in a bad-tempered or miserly way.
So "Curmudgeonlyness" [Not in Dictionary!] must me a local corruption to describe a spread or epidemic of such attitude or behaviour in a particular locale e.g a village or a particular group of people etc.
It's a good word in't it?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Holmfirther..
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 11:14 AM

Excellent.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: joshuarobbo
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 11:41 AM

can we safely say soldier boy that mac & his missus & friends are good on the squeeze box

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 11:48 AM

Dunno- they might be curmudgeonly good!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 12:36 PM

I like some of these old/middle English words and believe it is time to revive them. They remind me of my days in the 24th!

How's amout we Mudcatters start to use these terms as words of endearment (Or Not!) at the Holmfirth Festival of Folk !!
We can use them amongst ourselves or just use them to confuse and
pi** off others.

Here's some for starters :

SCALLYWAG       : a scamp, a rascal (19th c)
FLIBBERTIGIBBET : a gossoping, frivolous or restless person   
                  [imitative of chatter]
RASCALLION      : a rascal,dishonest or mischeavous person
                  (middle english)
COCKALORUM      : a self-important little man (18th c)

Do you know any others that we can add to our repertoire ??

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 12:53 PM

I like obfuscation but I don't think it's particularly old.

How about wench and strumpet?
I don't think they were offensive in their original usage.
And mithered.

I don't want to get into schoolteacher mode but shouldn't it be rapscallion? isn't a rascallion a red salad onion?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 01:06 PM

Just remembered - all camper van and caravan spaces on the camp site are booked for Friday and Saturday.
There is still plenty of tent space but bookings are increasing so if you want to get a camping space then you need to get booked in with the nice people at the Tourist Info Office - phone [phone].

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 01:26 PM

Ooops! You're right cath..rapscallion it is (a rascal or scounderal).
I still prefer to call someone 'a red salad onion' though!!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Raggytash
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 01:57 PM

Chris, take a look at the Runswick Bay thread

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 02:38 PM

Thanks Raggytash.
Nice to hear those comments from the secretary of the Ruswick Bay Boat appeal. £720 raised in total. That's brilliant! Very well done to you and Wombat for organising the event again. £1000 next year??

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 05:48 PM

Our dance organisers want to make sure that everyone knows that we will be having a ceilidh with the Red Parrots on the Saturday night of the festival and one for all the family on the Sunday afternoon.
It's just been sorted that it will, after all, be in the bottom Market Hall accessed from Hollowgate.
So get out your dancing shoes.
How am I going to manage to be in so many places at once? Choices, choices.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther..
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 06:52 PM

I'm having that dilemma.I want to see Waking the Witch..I want to see the Van Dunk Brothers..I want to be in the Postcard at the same time as John Senior is supporting the Strawbs..........I want to be in the sculpture lounge as its nothing to do with the festival and will be a good break and James and Ged will be in...I'd like to listen to Emily Druce again in the Nook whilst eating three free sandwiches..I am certainly going to be at Le Cavauex to see Katus..[What she can do with a flute].Spot Lightkid sound cracking..and I am off to the corner house for hamish currie...Apparently...............What to do...

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 07:39 PM

There is a mad mad line up for this festival - and with rumours of further fringe events there will be few places you can go and not be part of the festival.

Had very productive mtg with the business assoc peeps last night and everything is now in place, above board and legal ! doesnt mean you cant go below decks tho !!

After all the planning over the last few weeks i guess i will do little else than fight to get to the bar in the nook to relax in the evening - after strutting about with morris types during the daytime.

I do hope you all have your drinking heads on and give good custom in particular to the nook, picturedrome and the bridge as they have attended every mtg and done lots of running around in between, they have raised loads of money from breweries and all tapped everyone they could have. Lets hope the picturedrome gigs take off as there is a good line up of big acts and peter has given us free use of his gaff for other daytime events too.

Let no one say that people are doing this for the wrong reasons - i have seen genuine commitment from all the gang and they have been all worked against the tide to pull this off.

If we can just kill the rumours we will have a great sucess.

If there is any truth behind the "move to shelley" story we might need more willing hands to plan for next year. But lets worry about that later and enjoy the moment.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 07:40 PM

suppose i might as well....

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 07:41 PM

get the big 100 !

missed all the big ones on thread one

nighty night !

if you are loooking for me on the day - i'm the bearded tit !

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 08:15 PM

Bugger P.B you beat me to the 100 mark!! How quickly it grows!
I bet you stayed up to do that.
I'll be very happy to give good custom to the nook,bridge and picturedrome and a few places in-between.
Very well done eveyone. I take my pith helmet off to you.
Super, great, fantastic.
Nighty night.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Raggytash
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 10:17 PM

96 or is that up side down

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 03:40 AM

da darr

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 09:46 AM

Da Daarr

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 10:25 AM

Just a quick one..If we ..thats us of the regular users of this thread..all choose 10 threads and simply state that H F o F and dates plus webite..It would mean every thread got a festival hit so to speak..Any offers ?..I have'nt a problem doing the first 10..?It would highlight the fact to everyone thats a mudcat user..

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 10:42 AM

No No No!!
this is spamming and youll get us thrown off the site!!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther..
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 11:07 AM

Okay..Just a thought..You will have to excuse me as I have never used one of these forum thingies'..Wules are wules no probs..Cheers.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 12:53 PM

yak yak yak yak yak

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: squeezeboxhp
Date: 27 Apr 06 - 03:28 PM

thanks for the help in spelling the word i was just guessing.
i am trying to talk bradshaw mummers into coming up on the sunday to do a spot with kirkburton as i shall be there anyway as musician for KRD

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 09:24 AM

Ho ho ho

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Hamish
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 01:50 PM

Hi, Holmfirther:

Looking forward to putting a face to the name at the Corner Cafe on Sunday....   ~8^)

Hamish

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: r.padgett
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 05:27 AM

So any definite Mudcatters meetings? at Holmfirth Fest of F

Times and dates please before I get stuck into the beer and other activities?

Ray

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 10:33 AM

I'll be there..After John Martyn at the cinema on Saturday plus a load of booze..I'll be in need of a fat fix.......pc

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 12:10 PM

I'm afraid you don't make it sound too appetising!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Pauline
Date: 01 May 06 - 07:40 AM

I am coming to the festival with my daughter, i notice there are "T" Shirts for sale, It mentions childrens sizes! what sizes are these!

Pauline

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 01 May 06 - 10:46 AM

I suggest you click on the link on the web site in the bit that tells you about the tee shirts - the person at the other end should be able to tell you.
I'm afraid I don't know because, as you know, children come in all sorts of shapes and sizes!!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: alanww
Date: 01 May 06 - 12:57 PM

Hello squeezeboxhp
So you play box for KRDs, eh, ie the men who I got out of the Swan at Upton FF in order to show everyone some propper dancing?
I have just had a very nice day dancing Cotswold and playing for Shakespeare MM, on a tour with Ilmington, Chipping Campden & Pebworth MM. Malcolm Smith of your days gone past was there, along with another of your ex-men as a guest (was his name Richard? - I'm terrible on names)! Malcolm told the "Battle of Hastings" in the pub after breakfast and said that the money from being Treasurer of KRDs had all been spent and p*ss*d down the drain!!!
Look forward to seeing you again at Holmfirth FF. Great if you could get Bradshaw Mummers to come too - pity I couldn't persuade our mummers to come aswell!
"Come fill up your glasses ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: squeezeboxhp
Date: 01 May 06 - 01:07 PM

look forward to seeing you also shame i couldn't get to Upton this year but will certainly make Holmfirth

Ken

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 01 May 06 - 02:56 PM

just got back from whitby- moor & coast fest - seems plenty of folk knew about holmfirth FoF and are planning to come along.

alos got back to find that yet another morris side are coming and if bradshaw put in a show we will get to 20 sides of sorts on the streets - not bad i guess.

Certainly more than was out at whitby on any one day.

All credit to the moor & coast gang the place was bouncing and the fest seems to go from strength to strength.

So lets make May in Yorkshire the place to be...

Apols to Raggytash - i had this idea to do an impromptu procesion against the traffic flow to get a beer at the Black Horse - it means our side move seamlessly from pub to pub and dont go shopping - pity was that when we arrived in the side door the sound of my bass drum and 24 clog irons ruined your song !

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 02 May 06 - 04:10 AM

Not a problem Panurus, when you've fought against people with Bodhrans who can neither play the damned things or keep the same rythym as yourself a troupe of morris dancers, even with clogs and huge drum, is but a slight distraction. Thanks for the thought anyway

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 02 May 06 - 04:14 AM

Incidentally Ronnie, the chap who recites poetry and monologues in such wonderful style suffered far more than I, it seemed every time he started one dance side or another would start up outside. Don't know whether you heard any of his stuff but he's brilliant, should be booked as a guest.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: joshuarobbo
Date: 02 May 06 - 05:33 AM

Hi panurus don`t forget to arrange to pick up ale from H v ales

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 02 May 06 - 11:39 AM

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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 02 May 06 - 01:44 PM

re ale pick up was gonna ask alexis- but just heard he has had he landrover nicked again - that is 2 in 2 months and pretty careless !

worse we still think the bass drum that causes so much distress might be inside it !

Raggy - is ronnie the baldy chap who was in the endeavor and black horse ? -heard a couple of his monlogues and enjoyed it muchly. If he comes to holmfirth I will buy him a pint and drum from a distance.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 02 May 06 - 04:10 PM

Raggytash - just endorsing what panarus biarmicus said - Ronnie who did the poetic monologues in't Black 'Oss at Moor and Coast was brilliant.
Not sure that you can book anyone as a guest at this late stage (maybe next year) but this is a festival for everyone and I know he would be very welcome and would go down a treat.
What about Ray's Sat afternoon recording session of local traditional songs and singers [Bridge Hotel : 1.00-4.00pm].
I would think they'd like to include traditional humourous monologues as well and Ronnie knows plenty of those!
Not sure what they mean by "local" though i.e local to Holmfirth or wider afield but anything "Yorkshire" would probably fit the bill.
If he turns up I'll buy him a pint as well and refrain from drumming within his earshot.
P.S: I saw Tony Morris in Whitby and have invited him too.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 02 May 06 - 05:16 PM

Bad news music lovers, Billy's drum had been taken out of the landrover before it was stolen. So you will have to endure the portly git banging it very loudly, a split second out of time with the band.
Raggy - "or keep the same rythym as yourself a troupe of morris dancers,etc" - the drummer I mean can't even keep in time WITH the morris dancers!
It was the echo under the archway that gave the impression it was intime.

Beer under control - spoke to Barney's missus this evening

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,holmfirther
Date: 02 May 06 - 05:33 PM

On a vehicle note.I've just been in a weird car crash....We are all okay, but my arm has gone a bit sore..My car is a write off..So I am proud to say that I am currently carless..I intend to be at meeting tomorrow.Please dont phone as I have a load of issues to contend with

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 02 May 06 - 06:22 PM

Get better soon Holmfirther, you have a lot of things to enjoy this weekend!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 02 May 06 - 07:56 PM

GUEST ; whoever you are!! - I don't agree - the PORTLY Slubbing Billys git banging the bass drum is actually a very fine drummer [when he's pi**ed!!].
We had a meeting between us in Whitby [when we were pi**ed] this weekend and decided unannymously that we were the best drummers in the universe. So now it's official.
P.S: Archways and back passages have always assisted our playing.
It is something to do with echos or acoustics or reverberation or satellite delay. We're not sure. But it's one of the secrets of the universe that will always confound mankind.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: fi_in_nz
Date: 03 May 06 - 01:14 PM

Hey Cath, hope to meet you Fri night at the Folk Club then - we've just found a babysitter (yay). I'm the one with the long (usually plaited) hair and I might be singing with dozy rozy if we can get our sh$t together; I might be tagging along with hubby who is the bald git with a banjo, guitar, whistles and ukelele in tow (oh and he doesn't have a beard).

Panurus, it really singles you out when you say you're the bearded tit. Will single you out like a beered up person at a folk festival with that description. Unless of course you're planning on going topless and you really do have a bearded tit (just the one).

Hmmm don't suppose I'm too singular at a FF with long plaited hair either ;-)

I now know who Soldier Boy is, I think I've met Mr Padgett, I know Raggytash, Haven't come across Holmfirther yet though or some of the others....... Maybe we should all wear bells round our ankles.... damn, that ain't gonna help ...... F

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Guest Ian
Date: 03 May 06 - 02:23 PM

It would be good to see some of you in the Carcineria 12.30 to 2.30 on Sunday.
Good Harmony/sing session - Plenty of chorus stuff planned from Four 'n' Aft
By the way fi in nz. Loctup Together are part of afformentioned group.
Have a good weekend one and all

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 03 May 06 - 03:35 PM

Well I know Panurus, Holmfirther and Ray but I will look out for fi_in_nz (is that right?) Dozy Rozy, Soldier Boy and Raggytash.
I plan to be in the Old Bridge on Friday night and the White Hart on Saturday night for Jake Thackray Experience, The Brian Lawton Concert in the Picturedrome on Sunday afternoon and then chillin with the Doonans on Sunday night.
The rest of the weekend is a mystery yet.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: joshuarobbo
Date: 04 May 06 - 03:34 PM

Fence as gone up at the camp site almost ready to rock ?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: fi_in_nz
Date: 04 May 06 - 03:40 PM

Owwww, how exciting. We'll be there for the Fore n'Aft sing on Sunday. I'll probably be the one with the baby on my back - he's a fine, seasoned shanty singer (attended his first Auckland Homebrew Shanty Session at 8 days old). See ya tomorrow night then Cath. F

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: fi_in_nz
Date: 04 May 06 - 03:43 PM

PS Any chance of a summary of any amendments/additions to the programme. I remember reading about some in one or other of these threads but can't find them now. Cheers F

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Albert O'Balsam
Date: 04 May 06 - 03:58 PM

Anyone going to the "Any Questions Ceilidh" on Fri?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: joshuarobbo
Date: 04 May 06 - 05:08 PM

cant wait to try suss name to face this weekend

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 04 May 06 - 06:29 PM

I should be at the Any Questions session but I shan't be.

I can't think of anything major in the changes to the programme department.

There's an extra session at the new Canvas Bar on Upperbridge organised by James Cannon on Saturday tea time starting at 5.00.

Katus has been added to the bill tomorrow night at the Picturedrome. I've just seen John Senior again who is doing 'official' support - he really is very good, well worth a listen.

It is possible that the Doonans might need to start earlier on Sunday evening - something to do with planes and Spain but I haven't had confirmation or details of that yet.

We are hoping to be able to keep up to date with any changes at the office. I've done that many notices today that I ran out of paper, ink and laminating sleeves and it's now time for bed.

See you all in a day or so.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 04 May 06 - 07:10 PM

Hooray it's Holmfirth Festival of Folk today
TGI Friday in the UK.
HOLMFIRTH FESTIVAL OF FOLK CLICK HERE!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 04 May 06 - 07:41 PM

still up tho on duty tommorow - just watching outcome of local elections - dunno why tho as we can be sure a bunch of knobs will get in - just hope that the BNP are not on the up !

if you get lost round town you can blame me as Cath has done a host of signs and after i have found a cool cellar for the dancers beer i will stick the arrrows up - looks like some of t'committee will have marshall badges but no mudcat names. As most of you have sussed now I am the bass drumer with slubbing billys, poss the most portly performer on the programme. Comedy beard and a full head of hair.

see you all round over the weekend

Wassail

Duggs

STOP PRESS

One more dance side confirmed - rhubarb tarts ! and it looks like we deff have a festival first - a dance side made up entirely of head teachers so come along and heckle !

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 04 May 06 - 08:22 PM

Night night panarus, raggytash, dosy rosy, holmfirther, alexis, r.padgett. I can put a face to all these names.
As for the rest of you rascals whose faces I cannot put to names/handles/micheivous disguises I look forward to unfrocking you over the weekend ( no sexual innuendo intended !)
You can't miss me. I'll be alongside Panurus. B thrashing my snare drum with the Slubbing Billys Morris side and wearing a very obvious red soldiers jacket with a pith helmet.
So introduce yourselves to me and reveal you mysterious mudcat ghosts on't t'internet.
It's been fun. Let's have a grand and very memorable weekend.
Long live Johnny Spitfire !!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 05 May 06 - 04:05 AM

morning all - have we forgot owt ??

best bring yer so'westers its gonna piss itdown - well so says all the forecasts.

But i have lived on the edge of the pennines for the last 15 yrs and we always have different weather to the rest. So when it shines for you it is chucking it down here - equally when it rains all over the north this weekend the sun will be cracking t'flags in Holmfirth.


And long may it shine !

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Hamish
Date: 05 May 06 - 05:22 AM

Have a great Fri/Sat, and I'll see you Sun.   ~8^)

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 06 May 06 - 04:24 AM

As I sit by my lonely garrett (!!) window the sun is trying to break through the gentle haze in preparation for another sunny day.

Everything seemed to go well yesterday unless someone tells me otherwise. There are lots of familiar faces around and a lot of people happy that the festival is on.

The Nook was heaving (literally at one point but Sheila is her mother's daughter and coped admirably), the Strawbs were going down well in the Picturedrome and Ray and the Barnsley people were hosting what looked like a popular participatory session in the Bridge. Duncan had a hard time in Carniceria without PA but took it in good part and we will learn from that experience - sorry Duncan.

I didn't make it to any other gigs - there is only a certain amount a body can do on a Friday night.

I have unmasked everyone now but Soldier Boy and I intend to do that today.

Right now time for the boiled egg and soldiers - see you all later today.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 06 May 06 - 05:25 AM

Further to my earlier posting the sun is almost out so get yourselves over here before it's too late.
And the egg and soldiers were delicious so I'm already for the rigours of the day.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: squeezeboxhp
Date: 06 May 06 - 12:39 PM

5.30 pm so far so good some good sesions without having to enter the irish one in the nook. shame about the power failure (could it be sabotage by HFF)
one drum if you must but a team of them at length is testing to say the least.
see you all Sunday

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Raggytash
Date: 07 May 06 - 04:00 AM

Sadly couldn't make yesterday my little Wombat is poorly, (never use NHS Direct, it took 6 1/2 hours to get her to hospital using that system, we only live 3 miles from HRI). Also unlikely to be able to get out to-day

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: squeezeboxhp
Date: 07 May 06 - 04:01 AM

could be worse halifax would add more miles

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 07 May 06 - 04:12 AM

Unless anyone knows anything different, all is going very well. Lots of very positive feedback from locals and visitors alike about the atmosphere and the amount of things happening.
The White Hart was packed for Treebeard and Silverwheel and the Jake Thackray Experience. Dave Burland and Brian Ledgard really enjoyed the John Martyn gig and Herveys and Old Bridge were host to excellent singarounds. I didn't make it anywhere else - there is only a certain amount a body can do!
Van Dunk Brothers are hilarious, still chance to catch them today.
Let's hope we can give Brian Lawton a fitting memorial this afternoon in the Picturedrome from 1.00 - 5.00.
And what more could you ask than the Doonans to round it all off?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: BusyBee Paul
Date: 07 May 06 - 02:04 PM

I know I've already told you this Cath, but here it is in writing - A great Festival - thanks to all the organisers. Thoroughly enjoyed my first trip to Holmfirth and it's nearer than I'd imagined so hope to come back again.

Well done everyone.

Deirdre

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Alexis
Date: 07 May 06 - 04:03 PM

A reet good do.
As a dancer and so called musician, thanks to Cath, Peter Carol and Duggs for all their work.
looking forward to next year.
many thanks

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 07 May 06 - 04:36 PM

Well we've been there, done it and some have even got the tee shirt!

The response has been very favourable and everyone has had a jolly good time and say it's like it used to be and how they want it to be.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: fi_in_nz
Date: 07 May 06 - 06:53 PM

Great festival. We had a lovely time at the Barnsley Folk Club on Friday. On Saturday we sat and ate our picnic in the sunshine (yay) and then I went to Waking the Witch (great, lovely harmonies and interesting songs) in the afternoon while the boys babysat in the Nook - (don't think they were too impressed (with having to babysit that is)). On Saturday eve my other half reported a lovely session in the Bridge (my turn to babysit) and on Sunday we made it over for Fore n'Aft and a good Shanty sing and the family Ceilidh which our 15 month old thoroughly enjoyed. We popped in quickly to the picturedrome but it was a bit loud for our little one - we both agreed though that the Duncan McFarlane Band sounded better than the last Steeleye Span concert we went to ;-) All in all a great weekend of music and dance. Thank you to the organisers who have done a sterling job to put all this on. F

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Ned Ludd
Date: 07 May 06 - 07:25 PM

Great Festival, Seemed just like the old days, everyone muckin' in.
My thanks to everyone involved! I particularly enjoyed the Brian Lawton concert, and He would've too! (Prob'ly watchin from up there)
Sound was weird at times but what the heck...it was a folk festival!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 08 May 06 - 03:44 AM

Dear Ned and fi_in_nz,
glad you enjoyed the Brian Lawton concert...
Yep, the sound was 'weird' at times Ned, the sound crew were more used to 'doing' rock bands as resident PA men for the Picturedrome, but bless 'em - they too, like all the artists on in that concert, gave their equipment and services totally free of charge for the occasion. So we can only pat 'em on the back and say 'cheers boys'.
Sorry it was 'loud' for your little one fi_in_nz!
We were totally in the hands of the sound crew on that score and had a different mix from the monitors on stage and could not hear what you all got 'out front'.
I did ask after the first piece we did if it was too loud out front and would the audience like it up or down, but 'no' was the apparent consensus.
Sounded better than our heroes S S?
Heck, I somehow doubt it, but we'll take that plaudit gratefully, bless you!

Cath, I've already emailed you personally, but here's the gist for public airing...
First off.
No need for apology re Friday. Faced with a very noisy bar full of 'non-folkies' (mostly locals out for a drink, very loud chatter and much smoke!) totally acoustic, no PA system - Anne on fiddle and I played to the wee gathering of interested folkies that gathered close to us and soldiered on regardless. We gave it our best shot for the full hour and half as per program and can certainly say those near enough thought we were doing OK - and it sure was an experience!
I had a great w/e, met old friends, made new ones (Hamish, Fyrish, yer good self and others) - it was great to see Holmfirth alive with 'folk' and all credit and power to you, your team and the local traders involved for making the whole thing happen.
Also, to the folk who turned out to support it all. Well done one and all.
All the best - Duncan McFarlane

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Hamish
Date: 08 May 06 - 04:05 AM

As I trudged back up the hill in the peculiarly insistent rain with my gear, I was filled with that warm, rosy glow of a Grand Day Out. I had, not to put too fine a point on it, a fabulous time. So thanks, Cath, for booking me; thanks to Peter and all the others who worked so hard at making it all work; and thanks to the punters and fellow-performers who were all so friendly - cos that was what put the rosy glow there. Looking forward to meeting up with as many of you again as possible!

Cheers. And did I say "thanks"? Well, just in case I forgot: "Thanks"!!!   ~8^)

Hamish
www.hamishcurrie.me.uk

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Ian Burdon
Date: 08 May 06 - 04:08 AM

Just a brief note of thanks to all involved in putting the Festival together especially Carol who provided me with B and B for two nights and didn't mind me spilling beetroot on her kitchen floor and Cath who took us under her wing. I thoroughly enjoyed the event which was much more geared to participation than simply to performance and was the better for it.

We were up first in the Picturedrome on Sunday with some Jake Thackray songs and the sound was a bit, er, eccentric but then so were we.

Nice to meet up with the other artists including particularly Marjorie of Fyrish whom I last saw in 1979 when I was University with her! We spent several minutes in the Barnsley FC session in the Bridge on Friday night looking at each other and both thinking "Is that..? No it can't be.." etc.

Ian

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Uncle Bulgaria
Date: 08 May 06 - 04:37 AM

Seems like it went Ok. I passed through town long enough to watch some dancing have a pint in the Nook and the atmosphere was good - could have done without the drum group, though. If the Folk Festival group go ahead with a festival next year away from Holmfirth, how about repeating the weekend on a different date to them so we actually gain another festival?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,The black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 08 May 06 - 05:06 AM

As a first time visitor to Holmfirth (ever, not just Festival wise) it was difficult to find things. Don't you have maps in Yorkshire nowadays? I've seen some of Captain Cook's originals so I know you used to have them!
Hope Wombat is OK, she sounded good on Friday night.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 08 May 06 - 05:28 AM

An even better idea - if THEY are going to proceed away from Holmfirth how about THEY choose another date as it will in fact be a NEW festival as you really can't have Holmfirth Folk Festival anywhere other than Holmfirth no matter how much they protest that it is the Pennine Festival of whatever.
After the weekend we have become Holmfirth Festival of Folk, the People's Festival (just so that we can cause an apostrophe problem). Actually that's not true but I think it's a good idea and it's based on a comment from yesterday's Memorial concert.
I don't agree with the comments about the drummers - I thought they were excellent. What was particularly good about them was the fact that the group was made up of drummers of all ages, not just the usual middle aged types.   I thought they were great.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Carol
Date: 08 May 06 - 06:39 AM

It was a great atmosphere throughout the whole weekend - hope it happens again and thanks to Cath and co. or perhaps it's just Cath for all their hard work.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,raggytash
Date: 08 May 06 - 07:35 AM

Thanks for the concern about Wombat Black Belt, I presume you are from Scotland or Yorkshire as if your arms had been longer or your pockets shorter you could have purchased for a very reasonable £1, a programme which had a very useful map in it. Sorry that I missed most of the Festival it seems to have been enjoyed by one and all

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Uncle Bulgaria
Date: 08 May 06 - 08:01 AM

Cath - good point about the dates, I tend to agree with what you're saying there. I still can't agree about the drummers, though!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 08 May 06 - 08:14 AM

hiya - thanks for all the positive comments. Me and Carol sorted out all the dance sides and they all said what a great time they had, loads of peole said how it felt more friendly and less formal - like the goood old days ...The streets did seem busier esp when sun was out on saturaday. Early projections of cash collected would confirm that too.

I had a great night on Sat in the Nook with the Free Sandwiches- was good to see so many non folkies around all weekend and the sessions seemed to all go down well.

Sunday saw rain & showers but the dance sides still turned out and danced till after 3.00. I struugled all day sunday after getting food poisoning from a kebab that i consumed in the nook sometime after 02.00 that morning - so wiped out that i couldnt get to Doonan's gig and am off work today !

I am missing a beer tap, a yellow table cloth and a deck chair that i lent to the security guys at the campsite and the mobile phone i lent to festival office - cath / sheilia/ peter can you let me know if you got any of these by email- my email has gone down !

I guess/ hope something will happen next year - but til we have had some adult debate with old ctee, and a debreif with the gang that worked on it this year i dont think we should set a date or even guess as to which organisation will be the driving force - I would be interested if people have a view to preferred weekends - i think if we could move it more away from Mayday and after the end of the football season we could get more dancers, more punters, better camping and poss better weather too.

I know may / june & july are all mad busy months festival wise - but to be so close to Moor & Coast seems a bit daft.

anyway... we have a meeting planned in a couple of weeks so please give us any more feedback via this forum so we can take all comments into account- many thanks

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,The black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 08 May 06 - 09:18 AM

I must have bought a duff program then. I was expecting a map in it and looked though it several times - but no map! Just my luck!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 08 May 06 - 09:50 AM

A couple of responses - the map was the very back page in mine - a simple street plan with venues marked.
To Carol - it was very much a team effort and everyone worked hard, some harder than others of course and some in opposite directions. Those in the know, know what I mean.
But thanks from me for all these very encouraging comments.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: alanww
Date: 08 May 06 - 10:09 AM

Very well done, Cath and everyone else involved in the organisation.
What a lovely venue for a festival!
I enjoyed meeting some old friends and new, eg Ray Paggett, Raggytash and the Green Oak Morris Men. I attended two sessions run by Marjorie Paterson & Dave Cowan - what a lovely couple! Also, Sheila Mosley & Pete Burnham performed well, as ever. In addition, I had not seen Duncan McFarlane before and I thought that some of his stuff was very good.
The venue at The Old Bridge was great in the function room and fun in the bar (if a little noisy but what can you expect!) But I was pleased with the audience participation in the singing I did - which was pretty loud too!
There were only three problems for me. As a stranger, as I arrived at 4pm on the Friday I found it very hard to find any directions for where to go!
Also, I was a bit disappointed that I didn't manage to find any English music session during the Friday & Saturday. Sandy (who plays a mandolin) & I tried to start one in The Nook on the Friday only to be completely overrun by the twiddly people! I did find the makings of one in the bar at The Old Bridge early evening on the Saturday when several other wandering musicians happened to find themselves together but it proceeded to turn itself into a singaround (which incidentally I did enjoy).
My other problem was that I couldn't make use of the camping tickets I had bought (numbers 7 & 8 no less). Having driven round the town, I parked in the Coop Car Park to try to find out where to go. But just ad I did so, my campervan managed to break a fuel line, so I was stuck there for the duration! It also meant that I could not stay to help out at the Holmfith by t'Sea session on the Sunday, as I had to catch a low loader home! Shame!
More strength to your arm for next year!
"A bold fusilier came marching into ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: BusyBee Paul
Date: 08 May 06 - 10:45 AM

Alan,

The evening session in the Old Bridge was advertised as a singing session. Rather than just asking the musicians to stop what they were doing so that it could get started, them what was running it just let it gradually develop into the singaround, thereby keeping everyone there happy. As you said, an enjoyable evening!.

BBP

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: joshuarobbo
Date: 08 May 06 - 03:27 PM

HI every one had a fantastic weekend at the nook a little bit crazy & alot of beers too many but what the heck , fatigue kicking now but survived . like to thank one & all [ well a couple exceptions]met some lovely people & put a few mudcat names to faces . see ya next time. ps sorry about the dodgy burger duggs.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: joshuarobbo
Date: 08 May 06 - 04:50 PM

hi duggs dont no were chair has gone it was there this morning might have gone back with the toilet i have got your tap at the nook dont no about table cloths speak soon seeya later

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 08 May 06 - 06:37 PM

Still going - wonderful night, yet again, at the Picturedrome with Seth Lakeman and brother Sean and percussionist Cormac Byrne (from Meltham we are told) doing amazing things with a speaker cabinet!! Was it a speaker cabinet - it certainly looked like one! I'm sorry I didn't get the name of the bass player but he was good too.

This must all end soon.

But there's Janis Ian on Thursday. . . . .

Times Ed readers amongst Mudcatters might like to know that they are doing a bit on the festival either this week or next. A team of local head teachers formed a Morris side in addition to working with the kids to perform at a packed concert on Saturday lunch time. A photographer was in attendance so look out for it shortly.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 08 May 06 - 08:05 PM

What a brill weekend.
I thoroughly enjoyed all of it. The village and pubs etc were buzzing.
I talked to loads of people and every one said how much better the festival has been this year. More relaxed, more fringe stuff going off, plenty of choice and variety and just more laid back and fun.
I hadn't planned to stay over on Sunday night as well but fate decreed otherwise. When I went to pick up my car from Bridge Mills car park at 5.00pm the gates were locked, even though the programme said that it would be locked at 9.00pm!
So what could I do? I returned to The Nook and was delighted to find that other folkie stragglers were also staying Sun night and were in full flow in song and playing music. Much thanks to Bill,Ted,Tracey joshuarobbo,Tyke and Johnny Spitfire to name just a few for a brilliant night.
I also lost my pewter tankard over the weekend (in The Nook I think!)
It's got a leather jacket round it with the Slubbing Billys logo and a picture of a drum and the name Chris. If anyone knows it's whereabouts please PM me.
A big big very well done and congratulations to all the organisers of this years festival. You've all done a stonkingly good job. Respect.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Lady Nancy
Date: 09 May 06 - 04:12 AM

Great day at the festival on Saturday; shame other committments meant I couldn't be there for more time.

...........Dates for next year?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 09 May 06 - 10:57 AM

Soldierboy I hope you weren't too disappointed about having to stay another night and enjoy yourself in the Nook!
But seriously I'm sorry about the confusion. At this stage I can't honestly remember what we thought was happening about the car park on Sunday. I think we thought people would have cleared out by the evening but we must try and take account of this for future reference.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 09 May 06 - 01:28 PM

if anyone reading this living near holmfirth sees my deck chair down at sands could they pls retrive it - bit of a puzzler as it wasnt there on sun - we even looked in the river.

think few apols to affected folk are needed re access to both carpark & site - keys proved to be a bit of a 'mare - think we will need a dedicated campsite office next year if we do it again - hope only solider boy was affected to any degree as his movements are so fluid it disnae really matter...

talking of fluid movements i am still off work !

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 09 May 06 - 01:28 PM

i got 175 - will this thread make 180 or even 200 ??

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: dozy rozy
Date: 09 May 06 - 02:26 PM

Hello, everyone, and thanks for a fab weekend.
Hope to do it all again, next year.
One slight grumble, however.I was led to believe that there would be sheep and sherry drinking elephants.I feel cheated.
I'm only glad that Johnny Spitfire was at his best.He made up for the rest.
Please give him my regards.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 09 May 06 - 03:11 PM

panurus biarmicus. I wish you had not mentioned fluid movements................................************!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 09 May 06 - 03:15 PM

P.S Is there a lost property shop where you can reclaim both property and memories lost over the weekend ??

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: joshuarobbo
Date: 09 May 06 - 03:21 PM

duggs peter got your table cloth& phone (i think) so onto the enigmatic deck chair & soldierboys tankard

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 09 May 06 - 04:08 PM

No I've got the phone with the office stuff so whose phone has Peter got?

I thought Duggs' cloth ended up in the rubbish bin following a certain person's fit of pique. Was I wrongly informed?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 09 May 06 - 05:18 PM

Missing soldierboys tankard!!!
Make sure to read the Times Ed. their might be a ransom demand!
Shock Horror!!!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 09 May 06 - 05:31 PM

Did you here about the Folkey that is turning getting pissed into an art form?
He rang his mates up to find out where they were and they said "the Fleece."
He said "whereabouts is the Fleece?" So they said "Well were are you now?"
So he say's "I'm in the Postcard waiting for you lot to turn up". Still he managed to get to the Moor and Coast by Saturday and a full weekend in at the Holmfirth Festival of Folk on the right weekend.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 09 May 06 - 07:08 PM

It's called temporal/spatial distortion accentuated particularly by excessive and ritualistic alcoholic imbibition. Mick is a good study-case for this particular condition but the trouble is I think I might be coming down with it too! But I refuse to smoke a pipe and interupt singing sessions. Da da da da da da da da....

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: joshuarobbo
Date: 10 May 06 - 03:00 AM

peter got the cloth out of the bin

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 10 May 06 - 08:41 AM

Sounds like a song...

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: andyval
Date: 10 May 06 - 09:56 AM

Must confess to being one of alanww's ' twiddly people ' who over-ran the session in the Nook on Friday night. ('twiddly person' would have been a good Mudcat name !) I say over-ran slightly tongue-in-cheek as it turned out to be a good session with all kinds of music being played though I suspected Alan and Sandy might not exactly have a good time when they said that 'they were English and didn't see the point in playing tunes from other countries when there were plenty of good English tunes'.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:10 AM

Well I have nearly recovered enough to thank everyone for turning up at the Old Bridge on Friday

Fi in NZ, Alanww and Sandy (mandolin player), Carol, Stephen and Maggie, Raggy tash and the Wombat

Duncan Mc (Hippflask Andy) ty for the pint, George Clarke (as ever)!! Marg and Dave Cowan (nice cello) [FYRISH] arent they nice everyone else who sang came and enjoyed themselves

O Hilary and Ced nice to see yer!

Dave Bottomley, John Platt, Sarah Dobson and roadie Laura from Barnsley Folk Club

had a trad recording session on the Sat pm in the Old Bridge ~ pity bout the power cut, ended up supping Newkie Brahn nice apart from creaking floor boards

Ray

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Ned at work
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:38 AM

Just been talking to a Shepley resident who'se a melodeon player(That's ok!) and He said quite spontaneously with no prompting that if there were a festival in Shepley he would jump on a bus and go to Holmfirth!
Ned Ludd.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 10 May 06 - 04:18 PM

Is it the melodeon playing or festival in Shepley that would be the cause of him jumping on a bus to Holmfirth?

All should be revealed next week at the meeting at Shepley Village Hall or some such place.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 11 May 06 - 06:40 PM

We've fallen off the bottom of the page!!

Anyway the weekend's events are all over the front and middle of our local weekly rag and I think the festival has been declared a resounding success!

We meet next week to look at how things went financially and to consider where we go from here.

I think some of us should go to the meeting in Shepley to ask if Holmfirth Folk Festival Ltd have any intention of returning to Holmfirth and if not (which I assume will be the answer) just what they propose to call their event, wherever it should be held. It will only confuse their punters if they call it Holmfirth when we will be claiming the name. After all we really can't call ours anything else can we?

Answers on a postcard.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: andyval
Date: 11 May 06 - 07:12 PM

Hi Cath. One point worth thinking about- apparently there was some local lout element causing bother especially on Saturday night. This works in favour of the 'green field site' protagonists. I think that a more obvious police presence would have prevented any problem.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 11 May 06 - 08:08 PM

Mmmm perhaps the name is not as important as Holmfirth's well-established weekend. The policing of local lout is the duty of the local Police. Troublemakers should be banned and bared from drinking in the areas that they are causing trouble and banned from the area on Saturday Nights.

How the Loutish behaviour would point in favour of a green field site I can't understand. I know of one Green field Site Festival were their was a stabbing incident.

Holmfirth Festival was one of the most if not thee most friendly festivals that I have been had the pleasure of attending. I look forward to being invited to Holmfirth Next Year.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 12 May 06 - 04:09 AM

From conversations I have had with local licensees it would appear that the loutish behaviour is normal Saturday night stuff. Not that that excuses it, but from the police point of view I don't think that it will be laid at the door of the festival.
Hopefully, not many of the folk festival people will have come across it. I left the Bridge about 1.30 and all was quiet - I understand it kicked off about 2.00.
But thanks for the observations chaps.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 12 May 06 - 08:51 AM

You can't help having some bad eggs no matter how many times you make an omlette.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: muppett
Date: 12 May 06 - 10:00 AM

I met up with several local youngsters in the yard of the Nook late saturday night / Sunday Morning and had a most excellent session with them and taught them a range of songs from the wheels on the bus to the pirate song (when I was one I ate a bun the day I went to see, I jumped upon a pirate ship and the captain said to me .....)then did some dance (rave) tunes for them on my gazoo. No trouble at all.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 12 May 06 - 10:33 AM

I met quite a few local young'uns as well muppett and they were great fun. They mixed in really well and were willing to learn. I also discovered some brilliant young local talent and potential so the future of "Folk" and festivals like HFofF is in good hands.
Think I might become an agent!
There is so much potential out there that just needs encouragement and a friendly guiding hand. Can Mudcatters do more to help young talented musicians and singers to blossom and grow?
[Especially in the Holme and Colne Valleys where there seems to be quite an abundance of young creative talent.]

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Ned at work
Date: 12 May 06 - 10:37 AM

I took from my 'friend' with the Melodeon that he would much rather festival in Holmfirth.
Tyke... The banned bit is ok, but I'm a bit concerned about the 'bared'. Is this some sort of enforced mooning?
Ned

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 12 May 06 - 11:33 AM

Has anybody seen the Times Ed this week?
I am told they are doing a piece about the 'Morris Heads' and sent a photographer to the Schools' Concert on Saturday lunchtime and it might be in this week.
Also I hear that one of these same Heads wants to pursue the dancing as she enjoyed it so much.
Another convert!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 12 May 06 - 11:36 AM

200

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 12 May 06 - 11:56 AM

Tyke have you been sitting there all day just waiting for it to get to 200?
And there was me thinking that we had made it into the Times Ed.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: andyval
Date: 12 May 06 - 12:44 PM

Most young 'uns always seem to enjoy the festival. However , and this applies to other festivals (very unpleasant at Girvan on May Day Bank Holiday w/e apparently)as well, there are often elements of local thugs who seek pleasure in intimidating/assaulting anyone who is 'different'or from somewhere 'not local'. Look at the 'Why do they come ?' thread on www.Footstompin.com

Stands to reason that if loutish/thuggish behaviour is normal on a Friday and Saturday night - add several hundred folkies and visitors and trouble is not surprising. I wasn't for a moment suggesting that the behaviour was the festival's fault Cath, simply that some extra police presence might have reduced the bother.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 12 May 06 - 02:22 PM

Again the fact that the minority local louts displayed loutish behaviour for a few moments during a weekend should be the concern of the local residents and the police in Holmfirth. This is a local issue, which has no bearing on the Holmfirth Festival. Going on an on about it will only seek to give these louts the upper hand and increase in their eyes their street credibility.

I'm not suggesting that people should walk about the streets unaware of the dangers of Louts and Morons. However if the majority of decent law abiding citizens are given the impression that the streets of England are not safe and stay indoors giving up the streets to the louts will bring about a very sad day indeed.

Should you walk round the streets in Amsterdam or any large city in the Netherlands you will feel safe as there are plenty of people about day and night. Take a walk the next morning and you will find Bicycles thrown into the canals discarded needles and other drug related objects.

Be aware, be safe keep to the main streets and where possible walk about in groups. As for the louts of the world well their days are numbered when decent citizens walk the streets of the world with mobile phones. Big brother is watching see Google Earth and CCTV I may not like its invasion of privacy but it is here to stay. Though not idiot free Holmfirth during the folk Weekend is one of the friendliest happiest and safest places to be.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 12 May 06 - 03:40 PM

hiya all- can i just do a bit of a reality check on this latest thread within the thread.

I was in the nook both on fri and on sat when there was an "incident" but let it be known this was knack all to do with the festival, and it did not really effect anyone from the festival who was visiting, playing or even drinking. Ity was simply an ongoing spat between 2 drunken youths who were being goaded by their respective mates.

Shelia (Nook landlady) was straight into the action and knew both the lads by name and calmed the situation down. The incident was unfortunate but for those of us stood close by it really was something and nothing. The youth of Holmfirth are not an itimidating mob and they dont really impact on the festival in a negative way. True they drink but equally they were joining in, singing and laughing along with the rest of us. It is better to be in and amongst the local community that watching from some green field folkie getto from afar.

I was pleased to say I saw a few kids that have grown up with our dance side over the past 15 years and they were all out on the lash with their mates - i was pleased to see them, and pleased they were out and about listening to tradition music & for the most part drinking real ale - God bless 'em !

On a much more serious matter does anyone know why the examiner published numerous photos of morris sides but yet failed to publish its annual photo of me ! Methinks i wil have to write to the editor ...

wassail

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 12 May 06 - 04:26 PM

Exactly the impression I got panurus biarmicus I agree that there was very little to concern visitors to the festival. I was in the Nook on the Friday Night / Saturday morning. The fringe event in The Elephant and Castle on Saturday Night was trouble Free (well I needed an early night panurus biarmicus). The Drunken Women that walked and sang there way back to the campsite with me on Saturday Night were not with me (honest). I was in the Nook on the Sunday Night and I noticed that the enthusiastic but harmless drunk was spoken too by yourself. Which was enough to curb his enthusiastic calls for the sing of the Wild Rover.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: andyval
Date: 12 May 06 - 07:16 PM

there is a suggestion that the 'do' in the Nook on Friday was between two Town fans - possibly about who should play left midfield ?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 13 May 06 - 09:37 AM

For those new comers to the Mudcat who are still just getting to grips with all it's in and outs. You might be interested to know that if you click on the name of the person who has written the contribution you will find a list of all his or her contributions. By reading these you will be able to determine or at least make a guess at his or her reasons for making his or her comments. Especially when asked to let a matter drop when it has nothing to do with the promotion of "Folk" music as the said subject has little to do with the brilliant time had by all at and in Holmfirth.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 13 May 06 - 11:36 AM

Quite agree with Panurus B and Tyke - too much emphasis and melodrama is being given on this thread to so called "loutish behaviour" at the festival.

It were summat and nowt. I've seen more aggro at an undertakers convention !

You're always going to expect some bother from local youths on a Fri and Sat night but Holmfirth suffers far less from trouble than most other places I can think of.
As usual it's just a tiny minority that can get out of hand but it was very quickly and expertly nipped in the bud by Sheila and her ever vigilant staff in the Nook.

Far outnumbering any "Loutish" elements were the number of young locals (18-23ish) who joined in with the singing and playing sessions in the pubs or watched and joined in with the brilliant "Free Sandwiches" on Sat night and had a brilliant time.

The best bit of comedy upset I saw was on Fri night (again in the Nook unfortunately) when two youngish women had a spat after one yelled "you've sha**ed my husband you f***ing bitch !!"
Again this was quickly defused by the Staff and the merryment swiftly continued.

So on that note can we please make no further mention of "loutish" behaviour. It t'were just two small incidents that soon blew over and dererves no further mention - at all. Thankyou.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 14 May 06 - 04:19 AM

Amen to that.
But thanks for your observations Andyval, made with the best of intentions.
I do think we need to be aware of incidents or we can end up with egg on our faces but then we must take action to try to avoid a recurrence. I witnessed the spat on Friday night but was totally unaware of Saturday's until Sunday afternoon.
I have received lots of feedback about the concerts and pub sessions, all saying what a brilliant job was done, some with valid concerns about situations that we could have avoided and others that were totally out of our control. All this is very valuable for future planning.
But overall the overwhelming feeling is that the whole festival was a great success, all had a brilliant time and are looking forward to coming back next year.
You can't say fairer than that can you?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 17 May 06 - 09:05 PM

Hello I'm just refreshing this thread which had fallen of the bottom of the page so that everyone can read about what a great time that I and everyone that I saw was having at Holmfirth It was great weekend and a Peoples Festival! For the softy southerners who "They were such nice people" I Northerners would say that they were right nice Folk.

Please ignore anyone who is obviously trying to cause trouble on this thread or by starting negative alternate threads. Regular Mudcatters contributors would use the search engine to find any information. This is intended to cut down on and or stop the duplication of Threads. Comments from Guests can be taken with a pinch of salt comments from Mudcatter Members can be traced by clicking on the name of the Member. Once you have done so the search engine will Identify all that members contributions you can then read the contributions and make up your own mind that members reasons for making his or her comments.

Better still PM or speak to your friends who were at this years festival and I sure that they will confirm what a fantastic festival it was and just how friendly everyone was. That way you will make sure you won't miss out on Next years Holmfirth Festival of Folk or the chance to spend a very pleasant time in Some of Yorkshire most loved countryside. Watching the Pratty Flowers Grow! Cos this is a right good spot to do a bit o Courting! Thars Now't like doing a bit O walking on the highway on a morning in May.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 18 May 06 - 03:51 AM

We all know about your type of courtin' Tyke, that's why all the sheep were locked away in pens, the local farmers had got early warning of your antics

PS I didn't get me free pint ....... are you in Whitby this weekend or next :-)

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 06 - 06:29 AM

yes just got it panurus biarmicus is a bearded tit

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,squeezeboxhp
Date: 18 May 06 - 07:21 AM

saturday teatime in nook right hand small bar heard a parody of fields of athenry, anyone know where i can get the words

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 18 May 06 - 07:40 PM

I suspect sarcasm and although I do not know the words to The Fields of Athenrye. I have to say that there is nothing wrong with any song that can get someone's attention. So that the next song which has some meaning and depth given a chance to be heard by a wider audience.

Most of the songs that we care about have not received the hype and or the investment. Why? Because the media have little finance to gain by promoting traditional music "FOLK". Apart from two of the songs from my rapture that have recently appeared as jingles in TV adverts. I refer to "He's got Dad's pant's in the middle of his roll" and "You are my Sunshine". But don't ask me what they were advertising as I haven't the faintest idea.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 18 May 06 - 07:45 PM

Can someone please help me I think my dyslexia is getting worse. Have I read Raggytashes last contribution correctly? Did he just offer to by me a free pint in Whitby this week or next?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 19 May 06 - 04:08 AM

No, No, No Tyke .......... it's you who's providing me with a free pint .......... remember you promised ......... someone explain to him please

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,West Ham woz robbed
Date: 19 May 06 - 06:16 AM

As a southerner living up north, my reply to Tyke is that we Southerners present at "The People's Festival" (as first dubbed by Duncan McFarlane at the end of the band's session at the Sunday afternoon concert)knew a good thing when we saw / heard it, and we'll be back for more next year, assuming that Cath and Co. are the organisers.

This North / South divide thing makes my blood boil - we're all folkies, wherever we originate from.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 19 May 06 - 06:54 AM

Nay Lad, them southern folkies, (Anarcticus Folkus Ennui Illigitemii)sing with their finger stuffed in their ear, and wave hankies when they're dancing, sing about Plough Boys, garlands, and sowing corn.
We Northern folkies (Arctius Folkus Gregariousi)sing about miners, shipbuilders and dance wearing 15lb clogs with iron bits on 'em

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 19 May 06 - 08:41 AM

Aye! I can testify to that Raggytash.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 19 May 06 - 08:42 AM

Interesting that - we are thinking of calling the next event Holmfirth Festival of Folk - the People's Festival.

Anyway we had a meeting the other day and we do plan to do it again. We will take a bit more time over it this time and hopefully iron out the few problems that we had and share out the work a bit more evenly. Quite a few helpers from previous years who fell out with the 'other lot' have come back and offered their help. And we have found new people who are also prepared to help.

At the 'other lot's' meeting in Shepley on Wednesday they announced that they are carrying out a feasability study of Shepley with the intention of finding a greenfield site there to run a festival which will not have Holmfirth in the title and will not be the 2nd weekend in May.
The feeling of the meeting seemed to be favourable so good luck to them.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 19 May 06 - 08:44 AM

P.S: Is anyone going to the Mudcatters Yorkshire Gathering this weekend? What's it like? See Yorkshire Gathering thread.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 19 May 06 - 08:47 AM

Cath put me down to help next year.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 19 May 06 - 10:36 AM

Thanks a lot Soldier Boy.
Maybe I'll get chance to talk to you next time. I only saw you walking away this time.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: breezy
Date: 19 May 06 - 12:27 PM

Eric Bogle's is in H firth in June and Dan Mckinnon will be appearing in support so it will make it a doubly worth going gig

Dan, from Nova Scotia, hell of a voice is the man who is compared often to Stan Rogers

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 19 May 06 - 01:14 PM

do my eyes deceive me or did i just see soliderboy offer to help !

in all my years of mating around with this fine chap i have never known him to see a full day - let alone do a full days work !

but SB if we get a campsite office set up this year - or even a campsite session tent going you can over see the night shift and roll out of bed at tea time - in time to try and catch up with the rest of us that will have been drinking since the pubs openned !

So it looks like we will be having to sort out another festival in holmfirth then if the old ctee are going to shepley - i do feel that is a big ask to make a green filed fest work from a standing start but good luck to them.

Do think we do all need to think about timing as if the fests are too close togther we do risk dividing a group of followers- esp the southern contingent that dont get up here so often !

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 19 May 06 - 02:54 PM

Well I personal think that Holmfirth should keep to the same weekend it has always had. I can understand the benefits of getting out of the Football Season however they are a lot of festivals about. As for the Moor and Coast being on the weekend before well the Holmfirth Festival was well-established festival before the Moor and Coast. I don't know if The Rochester Sweeps festival predates the Moore and Coast but that is also on the same weekend.

The main thing is that it is that the Holmfirth Festival belongs to the local people and it should be a local decision. With that in mind here is a link to The Folk Roots festival guide. You will see that there is festival after festival listed and then there are all the festivals that are not included like Shanty Festivals and Mudcat Gatherings like the one this weekend that clashes with a festival in York. A list of Festivals in Britain and mainland Europe by date.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 20 May 06 - 09:11 AM

Nice one Tyke. I also agree with you about keeping the Holmfirth Festival of Folk to the same weekend and that this should be decided and announced as soon as possible.
Once the Shepley crew know we are'nt for budging it will be up to them to decide when to run their festival.
My guess is that they will not want to run one so close to HFofF and will back off and chose a later date in June/July.
I tried to put my case to Panurus Biarmicus last night but not sure I got through to him !

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 20 May 06 - 02:00 PM

I said at the meeting at Shepley that people had been coming to Holmfirth on the second weekend of May for 27 years and would continue to do so whether we changed the date of not because many wouldn't even know if the date had changed.
So, I said we had to keep the second weekend and they had to find another date.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 21 May 06 - 01:52 PM

The picture used on the Holmfirth Festival of Folk of a crumbling interior of a Public Bar filled with Folkies. May be a little bit of tradition associated with the Holmfirth Festival. How Holmfirth has changed over the years with its trendy Bars and restaurants. In this changing world it amused me to think back to how things were not just in Holmfirth were the Nook 25years ago may well have been one of the last bastions of a spit and sawdust Drinking Pub.

Allegedly I was told by Gus who was at the 2nd Holmfirth Folk Festival the floor of the Nook was so rotten. That the landlord seeing how popular and extra busy his pub had become on the Friday Night of the festival quickly organized a gang of his regulars to come in on the Saturday morning before the Pub opened to Tarmac the floor. Perhaps someone could confirm if this is true or not if it is true perhaps the final song of the festival should be Mac Alpines Fusiliers.

Gus was at the time recollecting that the Holmfirth Festival originally focused round sing in the local Pub's. What do I think well Yorkshire men are well know for telling tall tales that do have a trace of truth. It may well be however that the putting of a name to the traditional singing around Holmfirth has just helped to keep an already established tradition alive.

I'm all for a Greenfield Folk Festivals anywhere however the thought of one obliterating a Traditional Festival Like Holmfirth is abhorrent to me. Fortunately the hard work this year of the local people in Holmfirth have convinced me that a Money and profit driven festival on the same weekend has the most to loose.What you missed!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: r.padgett
Date: 21 May 06 - 01:57 PM

Well it does look as if the idea of a green field site is still in place ~ It will need a lot of money and a lot of outside help

I personally can see no benefits in taking to the fields and no jokes re sheep or any other cattle!!

The benefits of staying in Holmfith I believe outway the move ~ what do people think about the Civic/Picturedrome/Cragrats as guest venues? Why cant the organisers work with the locals??

The 'fringe' will always work in the pubs and the tourist attractions go without saying

The camp site still had plenty of room and there is a private camp site or two not too far away

Moor and Coast food tent have always come to Holmfirth after the Whitby w/end so i dont see a problem there and are always an asset
and a focal point for breakfast and supper


I do hope no organiser is trying to make a profit ~ oh folly!!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 21 May 06 - 03:40 PM

Whilst The Moor and Coast Food Tent was missed its placement on the Campsite, which has reduced in size by one football pitch, has to be thought about.

In the past returning to the Moor and Coast Food Tent after the Pubs and concerts had finished for food and a sing was a great idea. Now that the Pubs are open till very late. Glens Happy Evening Hour would start later and later I fear the noise, as there is the need to make sure that it is a family festival. The attraction of Drinkers to a Greasy Glens is like moths around a flame only a lot louder at 3am plus.

I have no idea how much it costs The Moor and Coast for a concession or how much the provision of catering onto the site would add the costs insurance wise or in the cleaning the site. I could defiantly have murdered a full Monty on Sunday Morning when I was up late with little time.

However there were free sandwiches on the campsite didn't anyone tell you Ray.
Joking asides not everyone that comes to festivals has a car I'm sure that others missed the lack of on site catering.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 21 May 06 - 07:59 PM

Hey up Ray. You are quite right, a green field site will be VERY expensive to run. It will require a massive investment and would only work if the organisers book top billing artists to ensure they make a return on their investment.

I also agree with my mate Tyke (splendid fellow!) the Moor and Coast food tent was very sadly missed this year. Not only for the late food to soak up the beer and provide the morning breakfast but also for the late gathering of people to sing and play their hearts out in the twilight zone.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 22 May 06 - 04:18 AM

I thought 'free sandwiches' was a band

Who got my share of food?

Ray

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 22 May 06 - 10:49 AM

And my share??

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 22 May 06 - 10:57 AM

P.S: Hows about we now start a new thread for "HOLMFIRTH FESTIVAL OF FOLK 2007" so we can gather our thoughts and start to focus our collective minds on next years Festival.
And also be kept up to date on the progress of the Shepley contingent
What do you think ?

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 22 May 06 - 12:25 PM

Sounds like a good idea to me!

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 22 May 06 - 02:19 PM

Splendid fellow here Soldier Boy it was the Twilight Zone that was my main concern.
Holmfirth is a festival for all and whilst the singers and music playing types need to sleep in the dancers need a good nights sleep to get out and Dance in the Morning.

If and its a BIG IF the festival was moved to miss the Football Season so that the Campsite had more space. Then the River might need fencing both side of its banks and the controlling access point to make the site secure would not be at the Bridge which then would be in the middle of two campsites.

So that late night bacon buttie seems to be getting into the setting up a Green Field sized expenditure whilst taking trade away from the local businesses. So the provision of any on site catering needs careful consideration. I also think It could be the some of reasons that the Moor and Coast don't get out there tent to cater at it's own festival.

This is all speculation the answer could be to convert Ray Padgett's Estate Car into a Curry Wagon giving the Moor and Coast the Barnsley Chop.

Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 22 May 06 - 04:26 PM

Tyke, In the space of 5 messages you have contradicted yourself old boy. First you argue the case for a food/late session tent and then you argue the case against it. Make your mind up mate!

The expenditure for a food tent could be a major concern in the grand scheme of things.
I don't believe for one minute though that the reason Moor and Coast don't use their tent at their own festival has anything at all to do with any concerns about taking business away from local businesses.

The real reason I am sure is because Glenn and Chris organise the Moor and Coast Festival and can't organise everything and run a food tent as well - it's just too much.

Anyway, now that I have Caths' blessing and now that all contributors seem to be focusing their attention on next years festival let's now close this thread and start a new one dedicated to 2007 :

GO TO : " HOLMFIRTH FESTIVAL OF FOLK 2007 "