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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Stringsinger Date: 26 Sep 13 - 11:41 AM I would agree but the argument being made here by some is that somehow a militant cause is automatically a religion because it has passionate devotees. That would make militant Democrats a religious order, or militant revolutionaries a religious order or for that matter militant animal rights activists or even Greenpeace a religious order. Or militant scientists or militant union organizers. Is there somehow an absurd fallacy here? Can you be militant without being religious? Apparently there are those on this thread that don't think so. Again, I ask, is any criticism or examination of religious beliefs deemed to be religious in itself? Suppose there is militant criticism or examination of religious beliefs? Does the "militant" adjective mean "religious"? Another question, do you have to believe in a god to be "religious"? Is, for an example, Stalinist Communism a religion? (It certainly had supplicating devotees and a hierarchical structure). Some might argue that it had a religiosity about it. When terms start getting thrown around, you run into a quagmire of semantics and meanings. The fact remains that "militant atheism" has an accusatory tone when used by theists, generally to discredit non-belief. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Musket can't wait to tell all Date: 26 Sep 13 - 12:35 PM Hey hey! I'm a capitalist. Oh bliss, concernered can work out what they cut and pasted and once they've begun to understand what they pretend to mean, they can point the finger at me and say it's all my fault! Fecking well minted too me old duck. (Too poor to put anything in the collecting plate at the next bingo session though, co Messiah and associated gnome. You know we always leave it to the church poor to put money on the plate. We posh gits only attend to be able to look down on others.) I worship a God too, or used to when I was in business. The god has a name. Mammon. The funny thing is, all religious people worship that particular God, they are just too ashamed to admit that is what it is all about. False piety and all that to disguise that money and resource equal power. During the next hymn etc and don't forget to tick the gift aid box. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,the artist formally known as concerened Date: 26 Sep 13 - 02:46 PM O dear................ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 26 Sep 13 - 03:55 PM I am a social, egalitarian, philanthropic, capitalist. As long as doesn't involve giving money to imaginary beings it will do for me. Oh, hang on, Gnomes are NOT imaginary are they? Or Lightning Ballers? Brass Tacks :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Jack the Sailor Date: 26 Sep 13 - 05:45 PM "the argument being made here by some is that somehow a militant cause is automatically a religion because it has passionate devotees. " No it hasn't. That is a straw man arguments typical of people who who will go to wild rhetorical and illogical lengths to promote their own point of view. Much the same way that some religious extremists promote their own points of view. You are constantly proving that you personally are as zealous as any Internet Christian I have ever met. Whether or not you want yo say you are religious about it or not, is entirely your choice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 26 Sep 13 - 06:09 PM ...and so the Magic Roundabout continues it's merry way. Time for bed said Zeberdee :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Stringsinger Date: 26 Sep 13 - 06:18 PM "You are constantly proving that you personally are as zealous as any Internet Christian I have ever met. " No, this is not true. If anything, I am opposed to an authoritarian way of looking at religion or non-religion. I sense a strong streak of authoritarianism in posts of this nature and an accusatory tone which sheds no light on this issue. The irony (if not downright funny) is the recent advent of a so-called "Atheist church" which is springing up worldwide. It seems to me that the baggage of religion is being carried into this sphere and the Sunday Assemblies seem to downplay atheist ideas to attract followers. " That is a straw man arguments typical of people who who will go to wild rhetorical and illogical lengths to promote their own point of view." This is a straw man argument used by people of a religious persuasion against people of non-belief as if the religious points of view are somehow "sane". This is not in harmony with the notion of "turning the other cheek", bringing into focus the hypocrisy of some who would prefer to accuse and set in judgement their authoritarian views. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Steve Shaw Date: 26 Sep 13 - 06:39 PM You are constantly proving that you personally are as zealous as any Internet Christian I have ever met. Interesting point there, Wacko. But do tell us: how many religion threads has Musket started, and how many have you started? So who's the zealot, huh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Steve Shaw Date: 26 Sep 13 - 06:53 PM O dear................ You see, concerened, it should be "Oh dear". Yes it isn't important. But it does show what a bloody charlatan you are. That last rather erudite and super-grammatical (though ranting) post of yours wasn't, er, actually you, was it? Whatever bollocks us lot here talk, at least it's our own bollocks. You have shown that, when you're any good, you're only any good when you're talking someone else's bollocks. Nice one son... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Jack the Sailor Date: 26 Sep 13 - 07:46 PM "Interesting point there, Wacko. But do tell us: how many religion threads has Musket started, and how many have you started? So who's the zealot, huh? " I was quoting stringsinger Mr science and logic. What does Musket have to do with that? Huh? You'd be formidable if you had even below average reading skills. "" That is a straw man arguments typical of people who who will go to wild rhetorical and illogical lengths to promote their own point of view."" Way to once more ignore the point by providing dogmatic non-sequitors, But you are NOTHING like a religious zealot.(sarcasm) It is hard to take your criticism of me seriously when it is so divorced from truth or reality. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Steve Shaw Date: 26 Sep 13 - 07:58 PM Answer the friggin' question, Wacko. How many threads has Musket started on religious topics, and how many have you started? Don't you think that true zealots start more threads? Answer the question, Wackers, otherwise feel free to be condemned as a hypocrite of the highest order! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Jack the Sailor Date: 26 Sep 13 - 10:29 PM Yes Mr. Scientist. Starting threads is the true sign of a fanatic. Not turning every thread that has a hint of religion into a childish bulling insult party. It certainly isn't calling people names like "whacko" when they do not share your beliefs. Stringsinger starts many threads on this topic. As many as I do, I am sure. Are you calling him a fanatic? Are you trying to convince us that you are a fanatic? Or are you just being careless in your thoughts? Again? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Musket curious Date: 27 Sep 13 - 01:12 AM Regular readers may recall I did start a thread in the BS section earlier this year. Granted it was about ear wax and my stupidity with a cotton wool stick. ... No. I haven't started a thread on any form of superstition. In fact threads I have started have been on a different abstraction. That of music. All together now! Fight the good fight with all your might! Onward Christian Soldiers! Imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky In this task your objective is to separate the zealot from the rational person. Ten marks are available and you have ten minutes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 Sep 13 - 02:56 AM All worship the Holy earwax! I have the Messiah's cotton bud... :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Musket curious Date: 27 Sep 13 - 03:43 AM Have you been rummaging in the bins of our local GP surgery? Again? You won't find many converts to the true religion in our neck of the woods. The Wesley family are from around here and you can't move for busloads of Methodists on pilgrimages. I do find it curious that Jerk is admonishing string singer for trying to perpetuate a thread he bloody started in the first place. All string singer was doing was trying to dissuade idiots like us spoiling it by taking the piss. Nice try and all that. Gonads |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 Sep 13 - 04:00 AM Noooo... You don't really need to have the actual item. Just say it is a genuine relic and the Hollyhocks! :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Blandiver Date: 27 Sep 13 - 04:15 AM Whoa! Hold up! I'm having a change of heart about this atheism business on account of some recent compelling evidence just in from a Russian Scientist who has photographed a soul leaving the body via the Gas Discharge Visualization Method. I guess this changes everything! Looks like Jack the Sailor Man was right all along... http://www.adguk-blog.com/2013/09/scientist-photographs-soul-leaving-body.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,the artist formally known as concerened Date: 27 Sep 13 - 05:06 AM O dear; or should it be o dear? ..shaw you are as pretentious and nit picking as the rest of your phony cronies, or should it be crony's? as for you talking your own bollocks, none of you have an original thought in your collective heads.All I see here is a re hash of stuff you have read,or another form of plagiarism? Before you start arguing plagiarism and semantics or grammar with me; get your FACTS right. I never claimed the statement in my last post as my own..you was only asked to CONSIDER..get it ? Here is something else for you semi educated oafs to consider;some is my words some isn't, might be a bit beyond you, but you decide. What is the difference between “O” and “Oh”? An example in hymms from the magical mans followers could be i.e. “BLESS THE LORD OH MY SOUL” vs. “O God Beyond All Praising”? You see phony, there is no practical difference at all. The “O” (or spelled “Oh” in English) is the voc in the hymsative article in Attic Greek and in Latin, and the name that followed it was in the appropriate case (vocative, meaning direct address). The American slang “Yo” to get someone’s attention is exactly the same thing. (I find it interesting that 4000+ years later, the same phoneme means the same thing; rather like Kodaly’s observations on so-mi-la-so-mi!) In Greek, it was an omega with a rough breathing; scholars disagree on whether the rough breathing had an [h] sound or not, hence the KJV “Ho, everyone that thirsteth” in Isaiah. A Hebrew/Greek scholar would have to tell you whether or not the “Ho” of the KJV reflects the Septuagint Greek only, or whether the actual Hebrew vocative article is “ho” or “oh” or something different. Shaw, I never did Hebrew, only Greek and Latin at the seminar I attended.What little I did learn was that the Greek O” is the article used by St. Paul-- “O Corinthians” and has a formal connotation as well as, in his context, some urgency about it. In modern English we use “Oh” in the formal vocative sense (“Oh, seaman stayns, could you...”) this is as well as in an much more informal way to preface a sudden thought or to express surprise. You see shaw, before you start shooting your big flapper about and argueing something with someone, at least do your homework? See phony...I still am to much for you |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 Sep 13 - 05:56 AM Conc, me old pal. You are a gem. You are a man; a woman; learned Greek and Latin at a Seminar; have many clerical friends; preach Marxism; are a master of debating (particularly the mass kind...); talk complete bollocks and can make up things at the drop of a hat. You are my hero :-) Tell you what though - Less of the cut and paste eh? It is blatantly obvious which is plagiarism and which is your own work. The copied words actually make some sense, even out of context. You are on the last phase of consideration for inclusion in our new hierarchy. Making things up is great. Just what we need to start a religion. But obvious C&P just gives the game away. I would be sad to lose you but almighty beings cannot be seen to be soft. Sorrox? :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,the artist formally known as concerened Date: 27 Sep 13 - 08:12 AM You just don't get it do you gnomet? It don't matter whether it is C&P or not..it is the research that goes into the statements along with the content.. that is the nub of the job . This is invaluable when it comes to showing up yeggs and cakeating phonies such as shaw. Don't tell me none of you have never cut and pasted..you lot do it all the time on this forum..especially when you are slagging me of with your low blows and shameful comments. As usual I would appreciate it if ANY one of you can disprove anything I have said..plagiarised or no. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 Sep 13 - 08:57 AM Blimey, Conc. That's a bit of a tall order isn't it? Firstly, to disprove anything you have said would involve reading back through your posts and I don't think anyone would want to that. Secondly, to disprove anything you need to have something to disprove. Seeing as you have never actually said anything it is indeed impossible to disprove. Yea, OK, I could post up counter arguments to Marxist philosophy but, to be honest, I just couldn't be arsed. So, in a nutshell, yes, I cannot disprove anything you have said. Except maybe by saying I have never broken into a safe in my life and I don't like cake but that is being picky. I suppose you win that one so we will all go away and sit, aghast, at your superior intellect. Trouble is, I am that distraught I am no longer able to offer you useful employment. Back to the institution for you I'm afraid. Still, I suppose someone of your mighty wit and resource will soon find something else. Cocks! :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 27 Sep 13 - 09:03 AM Just out of interest, how are you informally known, 'concerened'? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Musket curious Date: 27 Sep 13 - 10:10 AM Informally he/she /it is referred to by others as Here he comes And There he goes I on the other hand have a true genuine holy relic with a certificate of authenticity. When they built the new kop at Hillsborough they dug up the old tiered stand and flogged off sections of the concrete base to fans. It has been in four different gardens with me and right now forms the entrance into a small orchard just up from my raised beds. I planted white Rose bushes either side but luckily Mrs Musket failed to see the sad Dick the Shit reference despite watching The White Queen on the telly the other month. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 27 Sep 13 - 12:26 PM Musket, I think that you may be getting over-excited(?) Perhaps a short nap might help? I realise now that the person whose 'formal' name is 'concerened' (informal name unknown) can have that effect on people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Mr Happy Date: 27 Sep 13 - 12:47 PM 'Concerened' A typo? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 27 Sep 13 - 06:05 PM to those telling me to do the groundwork and stop giving an opinion.- please define the scientific method. is it not something to do with what can be established by observable,repeatable and testable verification, until such time as same method may modify or in theory, nullify formerly established results. then tell me how you can do experiments on the past and demonstrate evolutionism conforming to science. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Steve Shaw Date: 27 Sep 13 - 08:45 PM then tell me how you can do experiments on the past and demonstrate evolutionism conforming to science. No point telling you anything, old chap, because you don't understand anything about anything whether we tell you or not. And, when we do tell you, you don't listen anyway. You haven't got a hope in hell of ever understanding "the scientific method", so just bugger off. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Steve Shaw Date: 27 Sep 13 - 08:57 PM Concerened, old chumlet, we don't mind whether you copy 'n' paste everything you post, as long as you're honest enough (which you are patently not) to distinguish between what is your stuff and what is someone else's. Frankly, dear fellow, you have been found out here. And that big blustering post of yours is simply an attempt to cover up your embarrassment. You have actually confirmed my earlier point, that you have never contributed a single worthwhile point to any discussion/debate/argument here. Regurgitating someone else's point of view is as near as you've ever got and as near as you'll ever get. Shame. You do appear to have the odd view worth airing, but you prefer to get your knickers in a twist trying to invent what you see as colourful ways of "insulting" other people (epic fail on that score, dear chap, by the way, as you're even less amusing than Wacko Jacko). Still, we do admire your balls, even though they are quite possibly somewhat smaller than you seem to think they are. Keep calm and carry on, as they say. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 28 Sep 13 - 04:07 AM "...is it not something to do with what can be established by observable,repeatable and testable verification, until such time as same method may modify or in theory, nullify formerly established results." Yes, it's something to do with that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 28 Sep 13 - 04:17 AM " ...is it not something to do with what can be established by observable,repeatable and testable verification, until such time as same method may modify or in theory, nullify formerly established results." On the other hand, science is most definitely NOT about regarding everything that you read in an old book as the absolute truth! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,the artist formally known as concerened Date: 28 Sep 13 - 06:41 AM sigh........................I can see I will have to get the building blocks and flip charts (they already has the crayons) out for the fraud shaw and the brain dead gnomet. I see I need to point out AGAIN that the whole point of what I do is responding to you phoneys. That is to remark imho , you are a bunch of patronising, self opinionated, sneering, semi educated ginger liberals - deny that shaw. What is there to be found out on phony? I do not bluster, I am not ashamed of C&P ping a coupla times, I fessed up if you read the posts correctly. If failing in my "colorful" comments or insults..well it seems to get you and seaman staynes, stringslurper, wizzjet, and the rest of the yeggs and cake eaters going. Over to you........ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Steve Shaw Date: 28 Sep 13 - 10:11 AM Yes, you have big balls all right. So big that they conceal your own irony from your gaze when you rattle on about frauds and phoneys when it was you with the copy-and-pasting who only "fessed up" when tackled! You're not funny when you try to be witty, but you're bloody hilarious when you don't intend to be. Stick around. You seem to have more ridicule-inducing potential than Wacko ever had. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Stu Date: 28 Sep 13 - 10:20 AM "is it not something to do with what can be established by observable,repeatable and testable verification, until such time as same method may modify or in theory, nullify formerly established results." What? Try this: The Scientific Method |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 28 Sep 13 - 04:57 PM they already has the crayons That is to remark imho , I am not ashamed of C&P ping Wonderful stuff, Conc, old lad. Shame you have already lost the opportunity to utilise your unique style to author our mighty works. Look, lets make this easy. I honestly don't know if you are terminally stupid, if you are genuinely deluded or whether you are really clever. Let's assume it is the latter. If that is the case you will realise that this is getting really boring and your mighty intellect will be best served performing some other task. If you are really stupid you will not understand any of this. If you are so deluded that you think you are winning some sort of argument here then nothing will stop you from continuing. Whatever the case is and whichever course of action you chose you cannot fail to be seen for how you present yourself. Which is, to be honest, idiotic in the extreme. Carry on digging anyway. Bottox. :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Steve Shaw Date: 28 Sep 13 - 05:46 PM your mighty intellect will be best served performing some other task. Nah Dave. We gave him the task of producing the Wacko plank-walking medallions, remember, and he managed three per week. Three per bloody week. By the time he'd upped production the demand had waned (he don't do crest-of-waves, innit), and we had to cut our losses by melting 'em all down again in order to manufacture a job lot of co-Messiah statuettes (which are almost ready to wow the market, by the way - watch this space). We do have altar boy vacancies he could apply for, but only for those applicants who eschew those inconvenient underpants. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 28 Sep 13 - 05:54 PM Ahhhh. OK. Thanks Messiah S. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 28 Sep 13 - 06:23 PM thankyou stu. best I can see, this enlarges on my take, rather than detract from it. steve continues to bluster ,as though that was a reasonable answer to a simple question. shimrod charges that creationists only rely on the bible on origins. in one sense he is correct since we believe it is based on history as well as [what we believe] is revelation. but it is consistent with science . 1- positively by reference to an intelligent designer being in our experience the best explanation of anything being made and/or exhibiting massive complexity. 2- negatively by demonstrating all the failures and problems of evolutionary ideas.eg a- it requires some sort of naturalistic miracle without a miracle maker! this is usually passed over as - we don't know yet - begging the question that there will be an answer to what is evidently impossible. b- things like easily degrading materials still being present, that ought to be long gone if really MYO. NONE OF THIS PROVES that Christian faith is true but is consistent with it,- as most scientists in our history maintained, and many still do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Steve Shaw Date: 28 Sep 13 - 08:47 PM None of it proves you actually have a brain. Why don't you just put a sock in it and leave us merely suspecting that you're a clueless idiot? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 29 Sep 13 - 03:00 AM " ... shimrod charges that creationists only rely on the bible on origins. in one sense he is correct since we believe it is based on history as well as [what we believe] is revelation. but it is consistent with science ." I've no doubt that the Bible is "based" on history - but that doesn't mean that it contains the absolute truth. As for "revelation" - that just means that you believe that something has been revealed - why should I believe it and why should I be impressed? It's NOT consistent with science - and every scientific observation and measurement takes us further and further away from the biblical account of " Creation". In fact, we're now so far away from it that it disappeared over the horizon years ago! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 29 Sep 13 - 05:26 AM The bible is based on history? I am sure I have mentioned this before but it is worth repeating. I was talking to my friend Ted Edwards about Dan Brown's 'Da Vinci Code'. I mentioned that because it contains a few verifiable facts people seem to accept that it must be true. "People have done the same with the Bible for thousands of years" replied Ted. :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Musket nodding Date: 29 Sep 13 - 05:40 AM Aye but not that many thousands of years eh Dave? After all, you can't predate when he made the earth....... Well, my co messiah and associated gnome, I am about to embark on a pilgrimage tomorrow to Thailand. I suspect they don't do real religious things like bingo, but I will get dragged round their temples I suppose by Mrs Musket who likes doing such things. I shall see if there are any tips we can incorporate into the real true path and claim it as ours all along. Up to yet, I see that the essence of life is a hint of lemongrass in all the cooking, always carry your passport on you and check for an Adams Apple before getting too excited about their interest in you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 29 Sep 13 - 05:51 AM Have a good 'un, Messiah M. DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,the artist formally known as concerened Date: 29 Sep 13 - 07:33 AM Sorry I was a little late in responding; I have been ministering to the sick, feeding the hungry and helping people lest fortunate than my self. I do this freely as I do not have the time or the inclination to spend loads of time on mudcat sites being judgmental, sneering, patronising and abusive such as shaw, gnomet and the rest of the nomarks. gnomad, I am neither deluded, nor am I terminally stupid nor am i super intelligent, I do however have a sense of humour and a fair idea what constitutes a phony and a fraud. take your choice... have a really nice day... you hear? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 29 Sep 13 - 09:02 AM I am very glad to hear that you do have a sense of humour, Conc. You certainly need it. Nice to see that you have spotted the difference between here and hear as well although your punctuation and grammar still leaves a lot to be desired :-) As to what constitutes a phoney and a fraud, I think the father of Taoism put it rather better than I ever could. He who knows others is wise; he who knows himself is enlightened. BTW - I have also just been helping people less fortunate than myself although I suspect they did not notice. :D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 29 Sep 13 - 10:42 AM Note that I put the "based" in inverted commas, Dave. I intended this as shorthand for: "Some parts of the Bible may be loosely based on verifiable historical facts, allowing for mistranslations, misinterpretations, differences and discontinuities in authorship and quite a bit of mythologising, poetic licence and out and out fiction". I hope that that clarifies that point? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Dave the Gnome Date: 29 Sep 13 - 11:59 AM No need for any explanation, Shimrod. I did realise that based was indeed the word in question. Thanks anyway. DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 29 Sep 13 - 11:53 PM every scientific measurement...? how do you apply the scientific method to the long gone [supposedly existing MYO]past shimrod. elephant hurling! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Musket not flying till tonight Date: 30 Sep 13 - 02:53 AM How then do you apply your own method to translations of long gone documents pete? Ark hurling? Anyway. All my fingers are useful. Considering I was led to believe that the Bible has Noah shagging his own daughters to kick start the human race again, surely there would be at least one superfluous digit? My own research into this includes observation since buying a house in North Lincolnshire. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 30 Sep 13 - 03:15 AM "every scientific measurement...? how do you apply the scientific method to the long gone [supposedly existing MYO]past shimrod." Oh, you know, all those things like stratification, radioactive dating methods, comparison of fossils with other extinct and living creatures etc., etc., etc. Plus, of course, the flood of recent discoveries in fields like physics, astronomy and cosmology. All of those things that you 'Creationists' are determined not to believe in. An image comes into my mind of a silly old man attempting to stop a tsunami by waving his arms in the air! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Militant atheism has become a religion p From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 30 Sep 13 - 03:22 AM Three score times ten. |