Subject: RE: Obit: Shel Silverstein (1930-1999) From: BrooklynJay Date: 01 Aug 23 - 06:26 PM Of course, the title for the lyrics I posted should have been When She Cries, rather than Payin' My Dues Again (the title of the Burl Ives album). My mistake - but it serves me right for posting in the middle of the night with my brain half-functioning. Jay |
Subject: ADD: Payin' My Dues Again (Shel Silverstein) From: BrooklynJay Date: 01 Aug 23 - 02:40 AM I’m familiar with some of Shel Silverstein's work (loved his Playboy cartoons back in the day) and even do a few of his songs, but I confess I had never encountered this song until I read this thread. I immediately went to the Burl Ives recording on YouTube. Absolutely amazing. Took me several minutes to recover, old sentimentalist that I am. It's a bit late, but here are the lyrics from the Burl Ives recording on his album Payin' My Dues Again (1973): PAYIN' MY DUES AGAIN (Shel Silverstein) No one knows my lady when she's lonely No one sees the fantasies and the fears my lady hides There are those who share her love and laughter But no one hears my lady when she cries…but me No one hears my lady when she cries And when she cries, she makes you wanna run And chase the sun and bring it back To brighten up a corner of her dark and troubled skies You may have seen her lying in your lamplight And if you've heard her whispered words, it comes as no surprise So be the one she shares her secret smiles with But send me back my lady when she cries…for me My lady’s gonna need me when she cries And when she cries, she makes you wanna run And chase the sun and bring it back So, bring me back my lady when she cries 'Cause my lady’s gonna need me when she cries Here is the original Shel Silverstein poem. There are several differences from the Burl Ives recording. The recording by Dr. Hook (which came out in 1972) is nearly identical to Ives’s version. No one knows my lady when she's lonely No one sees the fantasies and fears my lady hides There are those who've shared her love and laughter But no one hears my lady when she cries…but me No one hears my lady when she cries And when she cries she makes you wanna run And chase the sun and bring it back To brighten up a corner of her dark and troubled skies When she cries She walks barefoot through the misty mornin' Dreams of golden yesterdays reflectin' in her eyes But soon the evenin' shadows crowd around her Frightening my lady till she cries…for me Frightening my lady, till she cries You may have seen her lyin' in your lamplight And if you've heard her whispered words, it comes as no surprise So be the one she shares her secret smiles with But send me back my lady when she cries…for me My lady's gonna need me when she cries |
Subject: RE: OBIT: Shel Silverstein has died (May 99) From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Jul 23 - 06:31 PM Joe - combine |
Subject: RE: Obit: Shel Silverstein (May, 1999) From: GUEST,Allen in Oz Date: 08 Feb 09 - 03:21 AM Many thanks Joe Have you heard the Burl Ives version of " When She Cries"...it is simply beautiful AD |
Subject: RE: Obit: Shel Silverstein (May, 1999) From: Joe Offer Date: 08 Feb 09 - 01:09 AM Hi, Allen - The book, A Boy Named Shel says that Shel did indeed write "When She Cries," which was recorded by Burl Ives. Can somebody post the lyrics? -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Obit: Shel Silverstein (May, 1999) From: GUEST,Allen in Oz Date: 07 Feb 09 - 05:52 AM Did he write "When She Cries" as sung by Burl Ives ? AD |
Subject: RE: Obit: Shel Silverstein (May, 1999) From: GUEST,MC Date: 06 Feb 09 - 08:44 PM I still having breakfast with Shell in Hollywood. He drew so many cartoons on the walls there, napkins, waitress anyone near buy. I'll always miss him Martin |
Subject: RE: Obit: Shel Silverstein (May, 1999) From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Apr 05 - 10:08 AM That prosecutor has done such a job on Jackson, don't suggest it too loudly or this might be his next project. (I suspect the truth lies somewhere way South of what the prosecution is suggesting. Have you heard the latest? The mother who is driving this case on behalf of her son is legally insane--psychotic and paranoid, but the prosecution is trying to prove that part of her insanity is admissable as evidence. . . sheesh. . . ) SRS |
Subject: RE: Obit: Shel Silverstein (May, 1999) From: GUEST Date: 16 Apr 05 - 03:11 AM If exhaustion had not set in...and the mind was not numb as a bum on the run...and a noggin too many of rum had not fogged the mind.
Ahhhh....what a splendid spell of syrupy swill the River Sage and I could feed to this poor pathetic soul with a fool for a teacher.
Shel was a shell of the man he could have been...but he was an ex-con....so who could expect more....and drugs included? His books, with verses like "There are too many kids in the tub, there are too many elbows to scrub, I just washed a behind, I'm sure wasn't mine; there are too many kids in the tub......were probably staples next to the Penthouse magazines at Michael Jackson's Neverland. |
Subject: RE: Obit: Shel Silverstein (May, 1999) From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Apr 05 - 12:49 PM I love that one. My daughter was an early reader, and her first grade teacher didn't believe my note at the beginning of the school year that she read as well as she did. I told her that while Caroline occasionally skipped over words she didn't recognize, she would be bored if she couldn't read during the day because she loved it. A note came back to say that "recognition without true understanding wasn't really reading." To nip this misunderstanding in the bud I set up a conference and had Caroline choose something to read. Her teacher had that book up on a shelf, and Caroline had complained to me that it was up where she couldn't reach it, so we got that book down and Caroline chose "Sarah Cynthia Sylvia Stout Would Not Take the Garbage Out" to read to us. To her credit, the teacher was totally focused on Caroline as she not only read but understood and enjoyed this wonderful poem. I just pulled out our copy--it's held together with rubberbands because we read it so much that it's falling apart. SRS |
Subject: RE: Obit: Shel Silverstein (May, 1999) From: robomatic Date: 15 Apr 05 - 12:04 PM See if Elaina is the type to take the garbage out! |
Subject: RE: Obit: Shel Silverstein (May, 1999) From: Amergin Date: 14 Apr 05 - 05:53 PM I wonder if I have a seance if Shel would sign my copies of his books....or do Elaina's homework for her... |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: DADGBE Date: 14 Apr 05 - 04:45 PM Well, it took a while but I finally located them. SINGIN' IN THE KITCHEN Words and Music by Shel Silverstein Here we go - singing in the kitchen, All together - singing in the kitchen, Everybody - singing in the kitchen, Banging on the pots and pans. Mama and Daddy - singing in the kitchen, Baby's laughing - singing in the kitchen, All the kids - singing in the kitchen, Banging on the pots and pans. Supper's done and the table's clear, Baby wants a bottle and I want a beer, Lord, I sure am glad I'm here, Where there's lots of love to share. Now clap hands and everybody sing, Dishes clang and the banjo rings, There's gravy on these guitar strings, But I don't really care. 'Cause here we are - singing in the kitchen, All together - singing in the kitchen, Everybody - singing in the kitchen, Banging on the pots and pans. I'll play the comb and you play the spoons, I'll sing the words and you sing the tunes, We'll wake up the old man in the moon, 'Cause we sing so loud. I'll hug you, you hug mother, Snuggle up close to one another, Just like bread on a piece of butter, Lord, it makes me feel so proud. 'Cause here we are - singing in the kitchen, All together - singing in the kitchen, Everybody - singing in the kitchen, Banging on the pots and pans. Now the fireplace embers glowing red, Everybody's tired and it's time for bed, Baby's nodding his little head, So let's sing quietly now. (SHHHHHHHHH!) [quietly] Who do we love - singing in the kitchen, Can't get enough - singing in the kitchen, Whole lot of love - singing in the kitchen, anging on the pots and pans. Mama and Daddy - singing in the kitchen, Little bitty baby - singing in the kitchen, All the kids - singing in the kitchen, Banging on the pots and pans. [loud] Here we go - singing in the kitchen, All together - singing in the kitchen, Everybody - singing in the kitchen, Banging on the pots and pans. Mama and Daddy - singing in the kitchen, Baby laughing - singing in the kitchen, All the kids - singing in the kitchen, Banging on the pots and pans. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 Apr 05 - 03:51 PM Elaina, Shel Silverstien doesn't live here (or anywhere). Too often over the years I've received email from students who conducted a search and landed on my address as a scholar of any number of subjects, but who were unwilling to take the same amount of energy to do their own thinking for their homework assignment. I speak for myself, not other Mudcatters, though I'd wager that several of them have had similar experiences with random messages from students asking for detailed answers. The nature of the request, formulated in the current misspelled techno-speak of instant messagers, posted quickly with a short request and few requirements except that it get done, looks to me like someone hastily posting messages in various places, not expending much time because they know the request is impertinent, thus liable to be ignored, but hoping to get lucky nonetheless. This is the kind of request that must be handed back unfulfilled to the student--it's your homework, and you're expected to do this thinking for yourself. Don't write to total strangers and expect them to regurgitate information that you will then slap your name on and turn in for credit. It's as easy to do a search on Silverstein and get enough clues from essays online as it is to find Mudcat. It takes even less time to simply pick a poem you like, read it over a few times, then decide what it means to you. Discuss. Good luck getting that assignment finished on your own. SRS |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: GUEST,misshockey01@aol.com Date: 14 Apr 05 - 02:25 PM I am asking u a faveor can u send me an anylized pome from your book where the side walk ends.....thankYou please write back elaina |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: GUEST,Big Jim from Jackson Date: 07 Sep 03 - 12:01 PM I dont have the words handy, but Bobby Bare recorded the song on an album by the same title. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Blackcatter Date: 06 Sep 03 - 11:45 PM Yea Gods. I agree with you Ebbie. I get it all the time on my site too - people writing like it's my job to solve their problems. At least Vicki knows how to use punctuation. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Ebbie Date: 06 Sep 03 - 11:27 PM And that's an order? Please and Thank you is good. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: GUEST,Vicki Date: 06 Sep 03 - 03:27 PM If anyone has the song of "Singin' in the kitchen".....give me the link, or download it and send it to me. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: richlmo Date: 29 Aug 00 - 10:26 PM My first child was born in 1984 and my second in 1990. I can't imagine reading to my kids without Shel Silverstein. The Giving Tree is one of my favorite books , ever. Rootabega Stories by Carl Sandberg ain't bad , either. If you have kids. Or not!! Shel will really be missed. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Sourdough Date: 29 Aug 00 - 10:20 PM What nice aurprises show up in the mail. Sourdough |
Subject: ADD: Many Shel Silverstein Lyrics From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Aug 00 - 06:08 PM Somebody e-mailed me this collection of Shel Silverstein lyrics, and it was too good a thing to pass up. I don't have time to edit them all, but I thought I'd post them so everybody can have access to them. -Joe Offer-
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Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Art Thieme Date: 19 May 99 - 11:21 AM __GET FOLKED__ was the first LP I was ever on. (1973) It was produced by a fine folk club in Rockford, Illinois called CHARLOTTE'S WEB. On it was Ron Nigrini, Tom Dundee, Richard Pinney, me, Susan & Richard Thomas, Ron Crick's band, Rose Hip String Band, Mark Henley and Dave (Snaker) Ray who produced & recorded the LP. Bob Gibson wan't there. Either was "Me & Jimmie Rodgers". I did record that song of Shel's later. I'd learned it from Bob. Could there have been a 2nd edition of _Get Folked_? I doubt it. They never did get over naming this one that. Art |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Dan Knudsen Date: 19 May 99 - 05:39 AM The Shel Silverstein song Me and Jimmie Rodgers was also recorded by Bob Gibson on an compilation album called Get Folked....anyone out there hear of this? |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Susanne (skw) Date: 18 May 99 - 06:40 PM Thanks, Jeri! Although the link didn't work for me either. Don't know what's wrong. - Susanne |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Frank Of Toledo Date: 18 May 99 - 03:20 PM BIG FAT PIE AND HOBO BEANS.....MAKES YOU WANNA SPLIT YOU JEANS... GIMME GREASY GRIT GRAVY AND GIZZARD GREENS......... That was quite an album.....on Columbia "BARE" with Big Dupree.....Finger on the Button......Yard Full of Rusty Cars... And This Guitar is For Sale...and Sing for the Song...... Shel at his very best 1978....... |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Paddy Date: 18 May 99 - 03:02 PM I only knew him from his work with Bobby Bare and Dr Hook.
Didn't he sing a verse of "Greasy Grit Gravy and Gizzard Greens", a track which included Willie Nelson, Dr Hook, Waylon Jennings and Bobby Bare?
"Jennifer Lohnson" is also his as is "Stacy Brown got TWO", "Tequila Sheila" and "Big Dupree"
A true genius who brightened up my life. Paddy |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Easy Rider Date: 18 May 99 - 12:13 PM I saw Ramblin' Jack Elliott a few days after Shel's death, and he talked about his long friendship with the man. He had some great stories to tell, and he expressed his regrets for not staying closer in touch. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Art Thieme Date: 18 May 99 - 03:11 AM If Caroline & Sandy are out of the cassette for _That's The Ticket_ I've still got a few here. Same for _On The Wilderness Road---also on Folk Legacy. (The vinyl LP of TICKET is long gone but I've still got a box of about 25 WILDERNESS ROAD albums that's been serving as a door stop for several years.) Art |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Frank Of Toledo Date: 17 May 99 - 09:58 PM Thanks so much DoRay. I'll be calling Caroline at Folk Legacy for an order and I'll have her send me the tape. And another thanks for keeping this thread alive....... |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: DoRay Date: 17 May 99 - 07:53 PM To: Frank of Toledo...The song, "Me and Jimmie Rodgers" is on Art's Album, 'That's the Ticket'.....along with a lot of other excellent songs. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Susan A-R Date: 16 May 99 - 08:34 PM As I looked through this thread I kept recognizing songs which I'd never known were Shel's. I never pay enough attention to the authors of songs, and this has been a real education. I've done Put Another Log on the Fire, Little Green Buttons, and a few other songs mentioned here, and never really thought about Shel. I'll be checking out that website for sure. Aint it always the way it goes, you don't know what you've got 'til its gone. Susan |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Jeri Date: 16 May 99 - 07:27 PM BMI Database I was just there, and it was OK. Now I can't get there. "Put Another Log..." is registered as having been written by Shel (alone) and performed by Tompall Glazer.
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Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Art Thieme Date: 15 May 99 - 11:38 PM "Living Legend" was written by Shel for Bob. Any who know Bob's "story" will know that instantly. Bob's fame was mainly in the early & mid sixties. Then bad drug years & many of lesser "fame" that Bob struggled through. He used the drugs but he became a user of people too. Made many friends and some enemies---something like us all I suspect. Later, when he was so ill, we put the crap on the back burner and sought to recall only what a fine folksinger he was in those early years and in many instances later too. Those of us who were there in the earlier times were always exhilerated to see the flaring up of the flame once in a while. Art |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Susanne (skw) Date: 15 May 99 - 09:40 PM Dick, there was another thread on Put Another Log last September, and one Dick Greenhaus wrote: "Shel DIDN'T write Put another Log on the Fire -- that's Tompall Glazer." What has made you doubtful? I thought you knew, and changed the entry in the database accordingly ... - Sadly, Susanne |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Rick Fielding Date: 15 May 99 - 05:58 PM Frank, I love the line "even living ledgends have to live." Rick |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Frank Of Toledo Date: 15 May 99 - 05:00 PM I believe you're right Roger, because there are a few more songs on the album by Tompall that Shel had written, and also on the same album were some Willie Nelson and Waylong Jennings. Have you heard Bob Gibson's "Living Legend". Another great Shel song. I've been sitting here for nearly 5 days redoing all the Shel songs that I know and there are a lot. .............. I haven't seen much mention of the Dr Hook in this thread.............. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 15 May 99 - 04:16 PM Dick, The song is on the Shel Silverstein site mentioned earlier. Shel's site I suspect if Tompall Glaser wrote it, it would have no reason to be there. It could be that it was co-written. Roger in Baltimore (not quite on vacation, yet) |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Frank Of Toledo Date: 15 May 99 - 02:27 PM It was on an RCA Victor album called Oulaws and TomPaul Glaser got credit on that album.... I haven't heard "Jimmie Rodgers and Me". In fact I had not heard of it before this thread; would sure like to find out where it's from. Did you record it Art? I have your Waterbug CD and one Folk Legacy tape. If you could help me locate it I would sure be grateful. Have you hear his Musical recitation of "Man With The Yard Full Of Rusty Cars"?............. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: dick greenhaus Date: 15 May 99 - 12:40 PM Does anyone know for sure whether Put Another Log On the Fire was by Shel or bu Tompall Glazer? I've seen both attributions. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: DoRay Date: 15 May 99 - 12:33 PM No one mentioned what I consider to be Shel's best song: "Me and Jimmie Rodgers." Art Thieme is the only person I have heard do it. I think you have to be in a certain age group to fully appreciate this song. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Frank Of Toledo Date: 14 May 99 - 06:40 PM Sure hate to see this one go by the wayside; so I'll give it my ol' what the hell one more good shot for Shel: "WATCHING THE FLIES IN THE KITCHEN OF THE MAN WITH THE YARD FULL OF RUSTY CARS......... HOLE IN THE SCREEN DOOR WHERE THE DOGS CRAWL IN AND OUT.....CAREFUL O' THAT SOUP SON, IT'LL BURN A HOLE IN YOUR MOUTH......SOUP AND LIFE, YOU GOTTA WAIT EM' OUT...SAYS THE MAN WITH THE YARD FULL OF RUSTY CARS....................... ' |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 13 May 99 - 06:41 PM It's open mic tomorrow night at Crofton City Limits. I'm gonna sing "Little Green Buttons" and "Put Another Log on the Fire" and probably cry while I do it. Thanks Shel! Roger in Baltimore |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: leprechaun Date: 13 May 99 - 12:00 AM This morning I got on my horse and went out for a ride and some wild outlaws chased me and they shot me in the side, so I crawled into a wildcat's cave to find a place to hide but some Indians found me sleeping there and soon they had me tied to a pole and built a fire under me I almost cried, but a mermaid came and cut me loose and begged to be my bride so I said I'd be back Wednesday but I must admit I lied, then I ran into a jungle swamp but I forgot my guide and I met a group of cannibals who planned to have me fried, but an eagle came down and swooped me up and through the air we flied but he dropped me in a boiling lake a thousand miles wide and you'll never guess what I did then...I died. True Story thanks Shel |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Date: 12 May 99 - 11:55 PM Alice-- Thanks for the links to the Shel Silverstein stuff at www.banned-width.com/shel.html I was sad at first because the author of some songs I loved, like "The Unicorn" and "I'm Being Swallowed by a Boa Constrictor," had died. Then I visited that site and discovered what a genius Shel Silverstein was in ways I had never imagined. After reading the original "Uncle Shelby's ABZ Book" (as published in Playboy) and "Uncle Shelby's Scout Handbook," I'm much sadder that the world has lost a wonderful wit, but I'm laughing so hard you'll have a hard time detecting my sadness. --Charlie Baum |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: northfolk/al cholger Date: 12 May 99 - 10:50 PM There is nothing I can add to this link, but the folk fabric is quality cloth, and Shel was a golden thread woven through it. I became aware of him, because of his iconoclastic work...the kind that gets me through the day. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Ronn Date: 12 May 99 - 09:46 PM Beans Taste Fine, Have Another Espresso, The Ugliest Man In Town, Never Bite A Married Woman On The Thigh, You're Always Welcome At Our House, It Does Not Pay To Be Hip, Blue Eyes...sleep well, Shel. You earned it. |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Tony Date: 12 May 99 - 07:50 PM "Bury me in my Shades" was on "Inside Folksongs" a 1962 Atlantic lp |
Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: Len N (inactive) Date: 12 May 99 - 07:46 PM I told my robot to do my biddin'. He yawned and said, "You must be kiddin'." I told my robot to cook me stew. He said, "I got better things to do." I told my robot to sweep my shack. He said,"You want me to strain my back?" I told my robot to answer the phone. He said, "I must make some calls of my own," I told my robot to brew me some tea. He said, "Why don't you make some for me?" I told my robot to boil me an egg. He said, "First lemme hear you beg." I told my robot, "There's a song you can play me." He said, "How much are you going to pay me?" So I sold that robot, 'cause I never knew Exactly who belonged to who. For years, this has been my eight year old daughter's favorite poem and she does a good job of reading it... ... with feeling. A couple of years ago, (age six at the time), she climbed up into the spotlight and read it in the middle of my set at a coffee house where I was playing.... Needless to say, she and Shel stole the show. Len
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Subject: RE: Shel Silverstein From: hank Date: 12 May 99 - 08:40 AM The crocodile went to the dentist And he sat down onto the chair, And the dentist said, "Now tell me, sir, Why does it hurt and where?" And the crocodile said, "I'll tell you the truth Of a terrible, terrible ache in my tooth." And he opened his jaws so wide, so wide, The dentist he climbed right inside. The dentist laughed, "Oh, isn't this fantasy!" As he pulled the teeth out one my one. And the crocodile cried, "You're hurting me so! Please put down your pliers and let me go!" But the dentist just laughed with a "ho, ho, ho!" He said, "I still have twelve more to go. Oops! That's the wrong one, I confess, But what's one crocodile tooth more less?" And then suddenly the jaws went SNAP! The dentist was gone right off the map. And where he went, no one could guess, To north or south, east or west? But... What's one dentist more less? So long, Shel. Hope your stay in the crocodile's belly is good. I memorised that little song years ago, and I still pull it out at times.
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