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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: bobad Date: 28 Aug 09 - 08:42 PM "And that's the last racist post I ever delete here." Some will like that and others won't, and vice-versa. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jeri Date: 28 Aug 09 - 08:37 PM And that's the last racist post I ever delete here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Peace Date: 28 Aug 09 - 08:35 PM LOLOLOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Smokey. Date: 28 Aug 09 - 08:32 PM "youre so far up the pakis arses your the same colour as them, think of all the white war veterans who fort the war to save this contry from being invaded, and then the guv does it volentary." It's a masterpiece; they should use it for their election slogan. It's a tough old world when a writer of such unparalleled skill is obliged to remain anonymous when fame is so richly deserved. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Peace Date: 28 Aug 09 - 08:00 PM Azizi, that post you quoted is despicable, but it's what we've come to expect from the BNP and their posters here. I am most shocked at the language. The poster wrote '"youre so far up the pakis arses your the same colour as them, think of all the white war veterans who fort the war to save this contry from being invaded, and then the guv does it volentary."' I wouldn't know where to start doing corrections on that. We have come to expect racism from the BNP and rants from drunks--which so many of them appear to be. OK, that stuff I understand. But the English itself is horrible. GET AN EDITOR. YOU NEED IT. After you sober up, of course. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Emma B Date: 28 Aug 09 - 07:59 PM I agree with you Azizi, it's foul and offensive but really demonstrates what kind of people they are if anyone remains in any doubt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Azizi Date: 28 Aug 09 - 07:48 PM I see that that post I referenced was quickly deleted. Because of the reasons I gave, I hope that my post that quotes part of that message isn't also deleted. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Azizi Date: 28 Aug 09 - 07:46 PM Part of me wants racists posts to be deleted and the other part of me wants those posts to remain on threads so everyone can see how racist some folks are. For instance, GUEST,BNP 4 LIFE, BETTER YET NF FOR LIFE!!! - PM 28 Aug 09 - 07:30 PM's profanity filled post in which he or she writes that "youre so far up the pakis arses your the same colour as them, think of all the white war veterans who fort the war to save this contry from being invaded, and then the guv does it volentary." ** I hope that post isn't deleted because all those folks who voted for the BNP Nazis who say that that "party" isn't racist need to read that piece of garbage. ** I'm glad that the British have filed legal action against the BNP. And glad that it sounds like Bruce, and Richard, and other Mudcat members will be filing legal action against those who are harassing them and misrepresenting them on Facebook and other so-called social networking sites.
Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Lox Date: 28 Aug 09 - 07:19 PM "standing up, sitting down, hanging from my toes and balancing on my elbows," hahahahahahahahaha Awesome!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: The Barden of England Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:57 PM Oh - it's coming their way Tam, have no doubt. I'M STANDING, I'M BEING COUNTED John Barden |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: VirginiaTam Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:47 PM goddammit I am not in anyway minimalising what the sam /shelly person has been purportedly doing. Just saying this thread has gotten dragged off the topic and is focussing on one person rather than the entire group and the impending and well deserved problems it is about to encounter. Signed - proud to be an American living in England and standing up, sitting down, hanging from my toes and balancing on my elbows, whatever it takes the disrupt the Brain Numbed Putzes. Tamara |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Peace Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:40 PM Sorcha: for all our ups and downs over the years, you're still one of the people here I really like. FYI. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Sorcha Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:38 PM LOL! Banty Chicken Complex! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:36 PM There's nothing worse than a short person with something to prove. Stand and Be Counted! (massive thanks to Barden and Sorcha) Charlotte Olivia Robertson (4' 11" tall) (very) uppity Indian chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:30 PM I'm staying off facebook, for now, for much the same reasons as Bruce. We'll get the evidence required to take a certain individual to court. Stand and Be Counted! Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) (very) uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Peace Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:29 PM ".....says it was played during Gitmo torture interrogations.... " That's from a guy who posted before on Youtube. He has since left Mudcat. Him I know about, and when I get to England he and I will talk. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Sorcha Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:29 PM I'm standing. Ta Bruce |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Peace Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:27 PM Thanks, Sorcha. Whetever the BNP does does not surprise me. When we have a case we'll find out who they all are. Since I am not on Facebook, it matters little to me. We now have them 'infiltrated' and we'll be able to demand isps real soon. Then they go down. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:23 PM This beyond just pissing about now, beyond a simple troll at work, I do believe the harassment has been cranked up a couple of notches, it's time to get serious here. Never mind excusing the Sam/Chris/Shelley/him/her/its behaviour as...what was that....? Oh yeah...."Narcissistic personality disorder"(sounds like an excuse for doing nothing to me) It's a war and it will be fought on many fronts. Sounds melodramatic to you? Maybe it is, but it is reality. There is no excuse for fascism, racism, anti-semitism, homophobia, and currently, anti-Islamic activities, and there's no excuse for sitting back and doing nothing. That happened in 1938, it was called appeasment. Most people thought that the man with the funny Charlie Chaplin moustache didn't have to be taken seriously, look what happened! Oh and one small thing, Hitler too was elected democratically. Stand and be Counted! (or get out of the way) Charlotte Olivia Robertson (very) uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Sorcha Date: 28 Aug 09 - 04:57 PM PS--YOUR pic too |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Sorcha Date: 28 Aug 09 - 04:57 PM Bruce, you DO know you are back there, as Mad Murdoch? And they are dissing one of your songs.....says it was played during Gitmo torture interrogations.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Peace Date: 28 Aug 09 - 04:54 PM Guest, Sam is a piss poor liar. She's beneath pig shit, and that's pretty low down. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Sorcha Date: 28 Aug 09 - 04:47 PM "Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: GUEST,Sam - PM Date: 26 Aug 09 - 07:02 PM Indeed Sorcha, or if memory serves me correctly I should call you Aine ! " !! AINE???? Hardly! ROF.....I am a LONG way from where she is. Try harder. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: The Barden of England Date: 28 Aug 09 - 04:24 PM I'm inclined to agree with you 'Ollie', and Royston too. It's just some 'floating turd' trying hard to wind us all up by 1) Quoting one hell of load of bollocks. 2) Putting up profiles all over the place and trying to wind us up with them. Well here's one proud human being who couldn't care the less what the stupid prick wants to do. I'll never let cyber bullies worry me in the slightest. I expect that tomorrow some sort of message about me will appear somewhere in the ether and will be circulating amongst the 'so called' friends, some of who will I expect threaten me. I won't know, because I won't be looking. They don't know me, and I don't care. Me worried? Never. I STAND UP, AND I WILL BE COUNTED. BOLLOCKS TO ALL FASCISTS John Barden |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: VirginiaTam Date: 28 Aug 09 - 04:22 PM Pointless giving an attention junkie what they want. An attention junkie typically indicates Narcissistic personality disorder . A person with this type of disorder will never be able to have empathy for another human being. Stop directly addressing the troll. Stop referring to the troll. That is just feeding the disease. Talk about the topic the OP started please. I am jumping for joy that legislation will make the BNP constitution illegal. And I think the idea of infiltration and coup staging is bloody brilliant though likely untenable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 28 Aug 09 - 03:39 PM Richard, I've no doubt, at all, that somewhere out there the original member Sam Hudson lives, but I don't think that this is the same person. Our 'friend' 'Sam', as part of his/her/its misinformation campaign has hi-jacked Sam Hudson's name for his/her/its own disgusting use. Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Richard Bridge Date: 28 Aug 09 - 03:25 PM Well, not quite so vehemently, I think Sam's story unlikely, but the fact remains there was a member here with the handle Sam Hudson. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 28 Aug 09 - 12:34 PM Richard, this is simply a disinformation attempt to discredit the FaF and me by the BNP/Sam/Chris/Shelley/him/her/it. The creature can't get anyone to believe its lies so resorts to divide and conquer tactics, I've seen this before during my participation in other anti-racist activities, but as Joe has stated, quite clearly, "Sam, you are not a registered or identified member of Mudcat, and you have no status here" and still Sam/Chris/Shelley/him/her/it refuses to sign on to Mudcat, instead using a sorry excuse about being cookieless and a lost password. To quote Peace, and, honest I have tried to be polite, up to this moment*LOL* 'fuck off, Sam' (sorry Joe) Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Richard Bridge Date: 28 Aug 09 - 12:09 PM Interestingly, "Sam" is (on the FaF@Sidders thread, I think) now claiming to be former mudcat member "Sam Hudson" (who posted in 1997 about Altan, and 1998 seeking the words to "Close the Coalhouse Door (by Alex Glasgow and part of the Little Red Songbook)) and alleging he has lost his cookie and password and would like them back. The more I think about this the less I find it convincing. If, for modding reasons, this post should be elsewhere, I am content if it is moved. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 28 Aug 09 - 10:31 AM "How clever does one have to be to be a BNP candidate?" - Smokey Having one brain cell is to be over qualified for the job, at least that's how my other half always puts it whenever someone does a REALLY stupid thing. Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Bryn Pugh Date: 28 Aug 09 - 10:26 AM P.S. - Sam - get back under your rickety-rackety bridge, before I fetch Great Big Billy Goat Gruff to you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Bryn Pugh Date: 28 Aug 09 - 10:20 AM Thank you, Joe. Mind you, Peace's (hi, buddy ! - right on !) comment 'fuck off, Sam', is echoed by me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 28 Aug 09 - 09:47 AM BNP, the "champions of democracy" and the "decent English way of life (read white way of life) are ever the ones who want to stifle debate when it doesn't support their racist, anti-semetic, homophobic agenda. Thanks Joe for issuing the warning. Stand and Be Counted! Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) Uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: theleveller Date: 28 Aug 09 - 03:13 AM Thanks, Joe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: GUEST,Sam Date: 27 Aug 09 - 08:20 PM Joe, there are currently three BNP threads up here at present, two below the line and one above (Folk Against Fascism launch at Sidmouth has turned into another). If you read the comments (today) you will see that the troll that arrived here last month is stirring the pot on all of them. Please keep to your word and place a limit of only one at a time. You do recall saying that ? Thanks Sam
What I said was that we would allow one thread discussing the BNP to be active at a time. However, we will also allow separate threads for events, such as the two other threads currently active which discuss activities of the Folk Against Fascism. As has been recognized by some posters, the discussion is curtailed when it moves away from discussion of the event. But that is of no concern to you, since you are merely a guest here, and you have not even done us the courtesy of telling us who you really are. The rest of you - please carry on with the discussion. Sam's query has been answered, and that's the end of it. -Joe Offer, Forum Moderator- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Gervase Date: 27 Aug 09 - 06:47 PM Well, judging by the ones we've seen parading up and down the Mudcat boardwalk, it probably helps to be from the shallower end of the gene pool. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Smokey. Date: 27 Aug 09 - 06:01 PM How clever does one have to be to be a BNP candidate? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 27 Aug 09 - 04:22 PM This is her too. - Smokey Is Shelley Rose that stupid that she isn't aware of Martyn Joseph's politics and his ethnic background, and yet she sings one of his songs? I had to give my head a shake and watch that youtube video again.... Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) Uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Royston Date: 27 Aug 09 - 04:15 PM Thanks Jeddy, I'm not on facebook (and never will be) so I can't see things like 'walls' but I have to say I don't see a resemblance betweeen Shelley Rose (unity picture and FB profile) and the main profile pic for Sam Hudson. I always though the Hudsons were the BNP Hudsons of Burnley. I'm not overly interested; one fascist is pretty much the same as another IMHO. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Smokey. Date: 27 Aug 09 - 04:13 PM This is her too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: jeddy Date: 27 Aug 09 - 03:51 PM royston, we all think that sam hudson is actually shelly rose because of this. http://threecountiesunity.blogspot.com/2009/05/shelley-rose-bnp-candidate-for.html to this. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000137986609 and this person looks extremly similar, see what you think. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000128680678&v=wall&viewas=1713687329 you can see all wall posts and photos on the last profile i have given. it would be an extreme coinidence if they are not the same person! take care all jade x x x x ps. this is not a thread drift, just answering a question. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 27 Aug 09 - 03:18 PM "why do some people believe "Sam" is "Shelley Rose"?" -Royston The answer to that question lies somehere in this thread or in This One , I believe. Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Smokey. Date: 27 Aug 09 - 02:38 PM why do some people believe "Sam" is "Shelley Rose"? Good question, but personally I don't care who it is so much as what. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Royston Date: 27 Aug 09 - 02:17 PM It was mentioned on another thread, it is an important question: why do some people believe "Sam" is "Shelley Rose"? Only it seemed to emerge from nowhere and now folks are getting a bit carried away with things generally, I think. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 27 Aug 09 - 02:13 PM "Impersonating musicians must be a real vote winner - possibly even more effective than the ritual burning of cuddly toys. I'm surprised the major parties haven't had the intelligence to use such subtly elegant tactics to persuade the electorate" - Smokey Don't give the majors any ideas, they get enough of their own already! Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) Uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Smokey. Date: 27 Aug 09 - 02:10 PM Impersonating musicians must be a real vote winner - possibly even more effective than the ritual burning of cuddly toys. I'm surprised the major parties haven't had the intelligence to use such subtly elegant tactics to persuade the electorate. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 27 Aug 09 - 11:01 AM from the past elections Central Beds Results - Northfields Northfields ROSE, Shelley Brtish National Party - British Workers First 348 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: olddude Date: 27 Aug 09 - 11:00 AM Shelly read what I wrote and then read it again. This is not what God wants for you nor your country wants for you. He gave you a gift of music, you have the ability to use that to make life a better place but people you choose to be with in life will either make you a better person and the world a better place or will take you to a dark place you never thought you would be. The choice is entirely up to you. I pray you make the right one. There are people that will help you get out of the place you are at now and will help you with your music. Again the choice is yours |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: theleveller Date: 27 Aug 09 - 10:43 AM "You have a 21 year old child who some very evil people took away from you and this is all you have to say to her " You're forgetting about upbringing and values instilled in your children, and what they have learned from your actions and values during their formative years. I've brought up 3 children and have a fourth who is well on the way to adulthood. They may not all hold exactly the same opinions as me, but none of them are Nazis. No need to get uppity because I have a different opinion to you - it's just a different way of dealing with the problem. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Legal action over BNP membership From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 27 Aug 09 - 10:38 AM Critism of Tesco is one thing. I don't approve of their corporate behaviour, but then going further to attack the race/religion 'owners' is rascism. Oh, by the way, Tesco is a Public Limited Company, i.e. the shares dealt openly on the stock market. That means that the directors represent the share owners. Do you know the race and religion of every shareholder????? |