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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: mousethief Date: 19 Feb 10 - 12:43 AM How does hanging labels on them take their rights away? That's nuts. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 18 Feb 10 - 11:17 PM "I find it interesting that I was automatically branded a "bigot" by one of the Mud-righties for saying exactly what alot of other folks are saying and will be saying in the coming days" You are calling yourself a bigot. You are predicting and projecting. You claim without any evidence it is a "terrorist attack" and then you use that to try to link it to the "Taiban" and then you call Obama a socialist. Furthermore you label everybody the disagrees with you a "Mud-rightie" So far from what I gather he was pissed off over taxes and he did commit suicide by crashing his plane into an IRS building. The rest of your rant is speculation to try to pin the blame of one, perhaps emotionally distraught person to a group of people you disagree with. If several other people do the same, and it seems like you are trying to sow the seed here, it does not mean it is true. You are already gloating over it. If you disagree with the tea bagers why can't you simply say so and state why? It is really not so complicated. It does not require psychological manipulation, personal attacks and cheap shots. I am not defending the tea bagers, only their right to disagree with the government and demonstrate their differences. I also defend your right to disagree with them. Seems like you want to take their rights away by hanging labels on them. "spreading the word that God wants you to invade another country, because Gog and Magog are running loose out there. Getting huge numbers of folks to believe said country has NBC weapons and the means to deliver them, and threatening them with nuclear catastrophes." If that gibberish implies somehow that scare tactics are wrong I agree. If it implies scare tactics are OK then I disagree. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Richard Bridge Date: 18 Feb 10 - 10:21 PM I'm still trying to figure out why someone so rich he could buy his own plane felt destroyed by the IRS to the point that he committed murder by way of revenge. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: mousethief Date: 18 Feb 10 - 09:49 PM I'm going to go with what DougR said. After having read far more than I wanted of this guy's suicide note, he just doesn't fit the profile, or talk the talk, of a Tea Pottier. For one thing he rips congress for not doing anything about health care. That's not exactly something a Tea Potty person would say. I think he's just a crank who flipped. O..O =o= |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: DougR Date: 18 Feb 10 - 09:30 PM I don't believer there is any evidence that the fellow who flew his airplane into a building is a member of any tea party, Bobert. It seems from what I've heard, he simply was a bit teed off at the IRS. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 18 Feb 10 - 09:23 PM The entire right wing story line is based on mythology, Amos... Everything they are trying to cram into their Tea Partier little heads are lies, lies and more lies... Everything!!! That is what is so maddening.... These poor ignorant people will believe a 100 lies told to them by a rightie before they will believe one thruth told to them be a sane moderate person... This is outta control... What the righties are trying to do is inflict mob rule on everyone, with them as the bosses... All, I gotta say is remember "Animal Farm"... A pig is a pig is a pig... Period... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 18 Feb 10 - 09:00 PM Sme examples that fit your definitions, there, Sawz: spreading the word that God wants you to invade another country, because Gog and Magog are running loose out there. Getting huge numbers of folks to believe said country has NBC weapons and the means to deliver them, and threatening them with nuclear catastrophes. Or telling folks that a scarey terrible condition is going to land on them--say "Kawmunizm" or something similar--if they figure out how to take care of each other somehow. I'm just saying...small groups, religious excuses, scarey stories, use of extreme violence...kinda adds up. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 18 Feb 10 - 08:44 PM Yeah, I find it interesting that I was automatically branded a "bigot" by one of the Mud-righties for saying exactly what alot of other folks are saying and will be saying in the coming days... It's sad that the first thing outta of the right's mouth is condemnation of people who see what si happening here in this country, where the violent right is given media time as if it's okay to strap a gun on and camp outside where a black president is about to speak... Yet, the knee-jerk reaction from the Mud0right came almost instantly... That is why this is becomin' a very scarey country... The right thinks it's pefrectly okay to "react" to any information that makes them look bad by demonizing the messenger... And no one is calling them on it... The media gives the right much more media time than it does the left and with that the right thinks it's okay to crash planes into government buildings... Perfectly okay!!! This is a cnacer on our society... The last thing that this guy said in the article was that "violence is the only way"... Sound familiar??? It's Osama bin Laden... It's the Taliban... These are also right winged people and organizations... They aren't progressives or the Black Panthers or Che Gevara....These are the corporate puppets.... I mean, what if I were to take a Cherokee and fly it into a Tea Party gathering??? I mean, I would be branded some revolutionary, right??? People wouldn't be sayin, "Ol' Bobert was some kinda gun-nut rightie" which by today's standards is honorable and righteous and qualify me for 36 virgins and martyrdom... No, I would be branded a "leftest revolutionary", "a commie", or worse yet "a wacko liberal"... No virgins... No $200 or get-outta-jail-free card....Just a bad, bad person... There are way too many folks out there who think Timothy McVey is a hero for killin' all those mean commie government workers (and their kids) but cheered when Police Chief Rizzo busted the Black Panters who were doing breakfast and health programs in Philly and marched those people down the street naked after busting them... Hey, I don't believe that "violence is the only way" but if the righties keep their pushin' there will come a time when the left will do take a page out of the righties playbook (think Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King here) and shoot back... It's up to the right to get a fuckin' grip before it's too late... The ball is firmly in their court... Think 1860 here, if you like... Push comin' to shove... The last time it didn't turn out to well for them and might not next time either... Hey, I ain't threatenin' no one here... Just time for the right to stand back and reaccess the damage they are doing to the country... Square business... No jokin' here... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,999 Date: 18 Feb 10 - 08:38 PM "You might believe that the Teabaggers are using scare tactics themselves but to use scare tactics yourself means you are no different from them." That then relegates people's motives to the trash bin. If I defend myself when attacked, that makes me as bad as the attacker? Huh? I'm missing something. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 18 Feb 10 - 08:28 PM Noun terrorist - a radical who employs terror as a political weapon usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear They don't scare me so it is my opinion that they are not a terrorist organization. Just a group of people that are unsatisfied with their government and are using their human rights and civil rights as granted under the constitution of the US. Everybody in the US has the same rights and I think that anyone that wants to deny them that right is a bigot. Bigot: a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race. Now what do you call someone who attempts to use scare tactics to create a controversy and influence people's opinion? Fear mongering (or scaremongering) is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. The feared object or subject is sometimes exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic to frighten citizens and influence their political views. It often states that if something is or is not done, a disastrous event will occur. You might believe that the Teabaggers are using scare tactics themselves but to use scare tactics yourself means you are no different from them. The same as if you accuse Teabaggers of being a hate group and display hatred toward them. Bobert asked and I have stated my opinion. Anybody that disagrees with me is invited to state their opinions but personal attacks and name calling just illustrates intolerance and an unwillingness to allow others to have differing opinions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: katlaughing Date: 18 Feb 10 - 08:13 PM The NYTimes has an extensive article on the whole "rebellion on the right" which the tea party has stirred up. You may read it HERE. A few choice quotes: Mrs. Stout said she felt as if she had been handed a road map to rebellion. Members of her family, she said, think she has disappeared down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories. But Mrs. Stout said she has never felt so engaged. And in Indiana, Richard Behney, a Republican Senate candidate, told Tea Party supporters what he would do if the 2010 elections did not produce results to his liking: "I'm cleaning my guns and getting ready for the big show. And I'm serious about that, and I bet you are, too." Branding Mr. Obama a tyrant, Mr. Stewart said, constructs a logic that could be used to rationalize violence. "When people start wearing guns to rallies, what's the next thing that happens?" Mr. Stewart asked. Not long ago, Mrs. Stout sent an e-mail message to her members under the subject line: "Revolution." It linked to an article by Greg Evensen, a leader in the militia movement, titled "The Anatomy of an American Revolution," that listed "grievances" he said "would justify a declaration of war against any criminal enterprise including that which is killing our nation from Washington, D.C." Mrs. Stout said she has begun to contemplate the possibility of "another civil war." It is her deepest fear, she said. Yet she believes the stakes are that high. Basic freedoms are threatened, she said. Economic collapse, food shortages and civil unrest all seem imminent. It is a sprawling rebellion, but running through it is a narrative of impending tyranny. This narrative permeates Tea Party Web sites, Facebook pages, Twitter feeds and YouTube videos. It is a prominent theme of their favored media outlets and commentators, and it connects the disparate issues that preoccupy many Tea Party supporters — from the concern that the community organization Acorn is stealing elections to the belief that Mr. Obama is trying to control the Internet and restrict gun ownership. WorldNetDaily.com trumpets "exclusives" reporting that the Army is seeking "Internment/Resettlement" specialists. On ResistNet.com, bloggers warn that Mr. Obama is trying to convert Interpol, the international police organization, into his personal police force. They call on "fellow Patriots" to "grab their guns." |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 18 Feb 10 - 07:22 PM Well there ya go. Accordion? Sure sign of terrorist mentality... JUS' KIDDING, CAROL!!!! Don't send me to the outhouse... A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Feb 10 - 07:06 PM "Stack played bass, the accordion and sang for the band..." |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 18 Feb 10 - 06:56 PM Is Mullah Omar alive and well and posting here on the Mudcat Board? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 18 Feb 10 - 06:34 PM Yes, McG.... Lexdexia strikes again... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Feb 10 - 06:30 PM ...one anti-tax nut has not committed a suicide terrorist attack... Shouldn't that "not" be "now"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 18 Feb 10 - 06:27 PM I wish they were there for the beer, oldster... But they aren't... They are an anti-government, anti-Obama oganization and getting lots of what-would-be-expensive free PR to promote thier brand of hatred... In getting all this PR borderline pshycos who are also pissed off at the governemnt (or think think they are) feel emboldened to do some very seriously violent stuff... First ya have a guy bring a gun to an event where the presdient was about to speak and now you have a guy who is pissed off about his taxes thinkin' it's perfectly okay to attempt to do what the Oklahome City bombers did... This is becoming a very serious situation... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 18 Feb 10 - 06:19 PM Bigot, bruce??? Me thinks that you are projecting here... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: olddude Date: 18 Feb 10 - 06:19 PM Naw they are there for the beer, can't blame em ... pizza is pretty good also I heard |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: beardedbruce Date: 18 Feb 10 - 06:11 PM You have any indication it was a teaparty member, or are you just being a bigot again? The murderer was an Obama Supporter, so the next thread should be Obama supporters are terrorists! |
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Subject: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 18 Feb 10 - 06:08 PM Well, well, well... It had to happen... In giving voice to people who are pissed off seems that one anti-tax nut has now committed a suicide terrorist attack on an IRS building... Me thinks that the Taiban are alive and well in the USA... (But, Boberdz... It's all Obama's fault fir, you know, being a socialist...) Oh really??? He's a socialist??? Ya' don't say... B~ |