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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 25 Sep 10 - 03:59 PM Policy position and emotive primal screamin' are world's apart, GfinS... I have yet to hear one actual, ahhhhh, policy position outta these loadmouths... Maybe you'd like to step up to the plate and become a spokesman and put forth something... I mean, anything... that slightly resembles something that rele3ctes what policies the Tealiban would advocate or want to change... To date, I haven't heard of any they have put forth... Maybe they just got to get their hissyfits behind them before they are able to articulate what it is that they want... "Wanting our country back" says 100% nuthing... "We wnat government off our backs" says 100% nuthin'... Sorry if I sound impatient to you but there are alot of us waiting to hear what the heck these people want??? I mean, if they want to privitaize Social Secrity or even kill it, hey, that is a position and a starting point for discussion... If they want to kill off every department in the federal government except Defense, hey, that is a policy posotion and a starting point for discussion... Hey, if they want to continue subsidizing the rich with bigass tax breaks then that is a policy posiion and a starting point for discussion... But they won't come out and say what it is they want and until then if they just think they can go around threatening to kill people they ain't goin' any further than they've come and will start to decline as more of it members say, "Hey, what do we want???"... This is some very basic logic that I'm talkin' about here, GfinS... Not rocket surgery, by any stretch of the imagination... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Sep 10 - 12:40 PM Bobert: "How could I disagree with the what the Tea Party believes, bruce... They really don't belive in anything that resembles policy positions... Wanting their country back is not a policy position... It is bullshit... Wanting thr "government out of their lives" is not a policy position... It also is bullshit..." I think you post clearly says it all!! Look at how far you got locked into it. You should re=read this carefully, and it may dawn on you, why you get so much flak......and how screwed up you've become....I mean to say, your post, reflecting your thinking, is exactly where any tyrant would want you!!! Regards, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 25 Sep 10 - 11:51 AM No one here screams or shouts you down, bruce... You can type in peace and type as much as you like... Major difference than the town meetings... As for the membership of the Tea Party??? Alll one has to do is study the picture that was on the front page of the Washington Post a couple weeks ago after the Beck ralley to have a firm understanding of thr demographics... I studied it under a magnifying glass for some time... No blacks... And at least 7 in 10 of the folks there were seriously over weight which means if they don't have health insurance then tax payers will inevitably be on the hook for one heck of alot of health care expenses down the road just from this sample of about 200 of these folks... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Slag Date: 25 Sep 10 - 03:57 AM Amos, amigo, you are right about the fact the R's jumped up and immediately started trying to co-opt Tea-Party because what the folks were saying was that they are tired of the same old same old. Bush went right down the check list of the things to say to the conservative members of the R's and he was sure to add a lot of sincereity to the spiel. The fish took the bait and that was that. Tea-Partiers are looking for a more sincere bait. But wait! They are also looking across the aisle for folk who perhaps tend to vote their way of thinking there also so don't be too quick to write this grassroots movement off. There may be something here for everybody. One thing you have to admit though, they are NOT the homogeneous, monochromatic group, marching in lock-step that Bobert and some others make them out to be. I tend to see those on the left as being in that mind-set. But I was wrong about that! I am having a wonderful time watching the Obama show! You've got to admit that it is entertaing to see a "Unified" party with control of both houses of Congress and the Presidency fumble, fall over each other, bicker and fight and generally squander what may be the moment of a lifetime. And look at what they have wound up hanging their colective hat on: an unworkable, untenable health care initiative! Bravo! Perhaps, if you are looking for REAL change in gu'ment check out the tea party for yourself. They are not closed to anyone and the debates are just as lively as anything here at the 'cat! Guns optional! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 05:25 PM "People came to them thinking they were going to be allowed to participate but were bullied so badly by the Tea Party ***goons*** that they left having not been able to particiapte..." Sort of like ANY conservative posting his views here at Mudcat??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 24 Sep 10 - 05:23 PM How could I disagree with the what the Tea Party believes, bruce... They really don't belive in anything that resembles policy positions... Wanting their country back is not a policy position... It is bullshit... Wanting thr "government out of their lives" is not a policy position... It also is bullshit... Saying they are against the deficits but wanting to continue tax cuts is not a policy position... It is not onlu bullshit but not possible... What I object to is these people are threatening to shoot people who disagree with them... On another thread where I posed a hypthethical question about the left using 2nd "ammendment remedies" I made it clear that I was not advocating shooting anyone... The Tea Party needs to do the same... I also disagree with their bullying tactics at the town hall meeting last summer... People came to them thinking they were going to be allowed to participate but were bullied so badly by the Tea Party ***goons*** that they left having not been able to particiapte... Neither of these have anything in common with the way a free and democratic country works... Now if the Tea Party wants to respect our country and show respect for democracy and stand up and say they have been assholes and they now understand that threatening people ain't the way they want to be seen then it's "game on"... Until then, they are borish assholes who have no respect for this country and would do better in Afganistan with their Taliban brothers, who BTW, think just like them... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 24 Sep 10 - 02:49 PM Amos Lightfoot, all that ballyhoo about some people giving money to the Tea Baggers, you left out George Soros, and his agendas for the Democraps! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 24 Sep 10 - 12:42 PM I got one and no "card carryin' members of the Tealiban Party" exist in my life. I suppose UAW members smoking pot and drinking during lunch do not exist in yours. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Sep 10 - 12:26 PM Bobert, You choose to make unsupported attacks on Tea party member, because YOU disagree with them. and the actions of a very small minority. Sawzaw chooses to make attacks, based on an equally small sample, on union members who support someone HE disagrees with. If HE needs to get a life, YOU should consider doing so as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 24 Sep 10 - 12:12 PM Get a life, Sawz... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 24 Sep 10 - 12:10 PM "if they are both homeless and card carryin' members of the Tealiban Party" Another if. You are really good at operating on ifs rather than facts soow about determining the outcome of this "if": What if they were homeless and not card carrying members of the "Tealiban Party" Can you show us one of those cards? Or would you rather base your "if then" "facts" on bullshit that does not even exist? Maybe one of those cartoon characters on the Simpson's has a Tealiban membership card you can direct us too. UAW members carry cards don't they? Would you like some buzzed up boozed up stoner alky building your car? What if your car was assembled by drunk potheads? Can you give us some insight on that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 24 Sep 10 - 10:40 AM Tea Party's Big MoneyPublished: September 23, 2010 Recommend Send To Phone Reprints Share Close LinkedinDiggMixxMySpaceYahoo! BuzzPermalink. Tea Party supporters and their candidates like to imagine themselves as insurgents, crashing the barricades of Washington to establish a new order of clean and frugal government. In earthbound reality, many of the people pulling the Tea Party's strings are establishment Republican operatives and lobbyists. Some have made money off the party for years. One example is Sal Russo, a gun-for-hire who has worked for former President Ronald Reagan, former Gov. George Deukmejian of California, former Gov. Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey, former Gov. George Pataki of New York, and many other Republicans. As The Times reported on Sunday, Mr. Russo saw a sure thing last year, establishing a group called the Tea Party Express to support candidates in the midterm elections and raise cash at the same time. The group has spent nearly $1 million in an effort to replace Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic Senate leader. It spent nearly $350,000 to elect Senator Scott Brown of Massachusetts. It is pouring money into Alaska to support Joe Miller's Senate bid. And it has spent $250,000 in Delaware on behalf of Christine O'Donnell, now the Republican nominee for the United States Senate. Mr. Russo held a fund-raiser for Ms. O'Donnell and organized a rally. In all, Mr. Russo and his group have raised $5.2 million and are the biggest independent supporters of Tea Party candidates. Of that, $3 million to buy advertising went to his political consulting firm or one controlled by his wife. Of course, he takes a substantial cut of each buy. Dick Armey, the former House Republican leader, considers himself a godfather of the Tea Party and is co-author of the book, "Give Us Liberty: a Tea Party Manifesto." Writing in The Wall Street Journal, he called for a "hostile takeover" of the Republican Party, which sounds so very revolutionary until one remembers that he helped lead that party for many years, guiding its policies and raising its money. When he left office in 2003, he cashed in on his connections to become a very high-paid lobbyist at DLA Piper, one of Washington's biggest law firms, which has clients that include health-care companies, energy producers and foreign governments. Then there is Carl Paladino, the Tea Party-backed Republican nominee for governor of New York. His bloodcurdling denunciations of Albany never seem to mention that he is one of the biggest landlords of state agencies, owning properties with $85 million in taxpayer leases in Buffalo alone that provide him with income of more than $5 million a year. He is the biggest property owner in Buffalo, and much of his empire has been constructed with state development incentives and tax breaks. An adviser is Roger Stone, an operator for Republicans since Richard Nixon's re-election campaign. There are undoubtedly thousands of Tea Partiers who would love to purge Washington of well-connected lobbyists, high-priced political consultants and others who take millions of taxpayer dollars while condemning the lawmakers who spend it. They should take a long look at the leaders and candidates who are driving their movement and decide whether purging begins at home. (Editorial, NYT) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 23 Sep 10 - 05:16 PM Actually, it is a wonder at all that a loosely orgainized band or angry white people gets all this media time... If we break down the numbers of folks who have voted for the Tea Party cnadidates it's less than 15% of the registered voters in the states where Tealiban candidtes have run... Maybe closer to 10%..l. That makes it a fringe party, at best... But the media time they are getting is mind boggling!!! You'd think that the so-called "liberal" media wouldn't let such a small band of loonies get so much press... (Follow the money, Boberdz...) Oh yeah, countless tens upons millions of dollars are behind the Tealiban Party... Between the Kock brothers and the Dick Armie's lobby (health insurers, pharmacudicals, etc.) these people are, per vote, the most expensive campaign that has ever been waged... I mean, bigass money behind the Tealiban... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Slag Date: 23 Sep 10 - 03:45 PM It's them Republicrats and Demicans what's doing it to us! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: beardedbruce Date: 23 Sep 10 - 02:48 PM LH, Your comment CANNOT be true. That would make Amos and Bobert (un)knowing agents of the Duopoly, and we know that they are entirely independent of any political bias, unlike all those that disagree with them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 23 Sep 10 - 02:45 PM I suspect that the primary reason the media are focusing various kinds of attacks and ridicule on the Tea Party is this: the media serve the Duopoly (Democrats and Republicans), because the Duopoly serves the media's corporate owners. Anything that threatens the stranglehold that the Duopoly has on the American political process will therefore be vigorously attacked by the mass media, demonized or ridiculed, and held up as a great danger to society...or a joke not to be taken seriously. Whatever works. The main thing is, nobody must be permitted to break or damage the power of the ruling Duopoly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Slag Date: 23 Sep 10 - 02:35 PM Bobert, life has to be easy for you. Just take out your broad brush and paint everything under the banner black or white and dismiss or praise it. It's a great substitute for analysis and actual thought! I personally have no problem with anybody of either party being armed at anytime. In my opinion that IS the supreme law of the land. The moronic idiot(s) that would try to use (read: missuse)that right to threaten or intimidate would find himself vastly outnumbered. And as for the handful of nutcases who actually do use a weapon, well, they haven't been stopped yet. Wait! Wait! I hear you screaming! Yes, it is problematic at a huge gathering and where our public leadership would be at risk in these times marked by terrible violent acts. Gun checks, go-nogo can all be in play. A policy of "not here-not now" would render gatherings pretty much as things exist right now. In a free society these things will always be problematic. However when freedom ceases to be, no more such problems, for the governing class at any rate. Strings, the reason I wouldn't support Sarah Palin is found in her book. Instead of demonstrating leadership quality and confronting John McCain personally when she disaggreed with her handlers, she continued to act the part of a team player. If she was to ever aspire to a higher office, she needed to confront and if neccessary, leave the ticket in support of her own convictions. As for O'Donnel her political usefullness was exhausted by winning the primary. Her's was not a YES vote for O'Donnel but a NO vote for the Republican status quo. That's all. She demonstrated her immaturity and inexperience NOT by backing out of the Chris Wallace interview (that was bad enough) but by not contacting Wallace and company beforehand with a credible explanation. Rather, it has been her "handlers" spinning excuses after the fact. Does anyone really need this person representing them? See Bobert, that's how you shoot someone down in the political arena, by facts and sound arguemnt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 23 Sep 10 - 10:16 AM Some might be, Sawz... Especially if they are both homeless and card carryin' members of the Tealiban Party... |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 23 Sep 10 - 12:01 AM Are Homeless people a Terrorist Organization? Matthew Watkins, 28, was charged with four counts each of first-degree assault and armed criminal action for the attack Saturday at the Mid-America Care Center, the Callaway County sheriff's office said Sunday. Sheriff Dennis Crane said two victims were cut by a chain saw and two others by a knife. Authorities said the victims injured by the chain saw were in critical condition, while the other two were treated and released. Watkins had been staying at the shelter for about two weeks and was taking part in a program that provides residents with on-the-job-training, authorities said. The attacks happened around 2 p.m. inside the shelter. Afterward, Watkins ran outside, where police got him to drop the chain saw at gunpoint and arrested him, authorities said. Watkins, originally from St. Louis, was being held on $600,000 bond. Jail officials did not immediately know whether Watkins had an attorney. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 22 Sep 10 - 02:29 PM It ain't as much as believin' a "lie", GfinS... We're in a pickle of a recovery because the corpoartions have way too much power... They are doing fine... Their profits are up because they know they have their workers by the balls and are squeezin' every last little bit of production out of them... That is reality... Mmy 3 son-in-laws are "Exhibit A, B and C"... One works for Kraft Foods and is salaried and he's putting in 60 hour weeks... Another works for Sylvan Pools and running two markets where two years ago each market had it's own manager... He's also putting in 60 hours a week... The 3rd works for Marriot and he's slammed, too... What this means is that one heck of alot of people are unemployed... That is the main problem here... What we have is the "pefect storm" for Boss Hog to bust some butts and that's what he's doing and thus what we have is a jobless recovery... That is the true said of the story... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 22 Sep 10 - 12:00 PM Bobert: "....They been tellin' US that it was over for the last 6 months to a year and then sayin' that it's going to be several years, if ever, before the economy produces enough jobs to be even close to a full employement economy..." So, are you saying you believe the lie, or don't believe the lie?? OR Either way you interpret the lie, Obama is your kind of guy! Stereo politicians, speaking out of both sides of their mouths!!! But, its okay, you can drool over anyone you want, for any reason you want. Here in America, we have the freedom to be as stupid and tasteless as we want!!! The government will send over someone to wipe your ass....Hey, No wonder you like it!!!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 22 Sep 10 - 11:05 AM Bobert: "The bottom line here is that some folks here think it is perfectly okay in their book to villify someone because they don't agree with them" That's what Bobert does every day so he must be one that thinks it's OK. "foriegn planet"? as opposed to a native planet? I think this falls into the Illegal loophole category. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 22 Sep 10 - 08:35 AM Oh, that one??? {{{{{{{{{{{yawn}}}}}}}}}}}} And this is "new" news, exactly how??? This is a recycled story, GfinS... They been tellin' US that it was over for the last 6 months to a year and then sayin' that it's going to be several years, if ever, before the economy produces enough jobs to be even close to a full employement economy... Only those who are "clueless" haven't been hearing or reading these stories all along... I'm not too sure why they feel that had to repackage the same story and bring it out as if it is "news"... Face it, it's "olds"... I mean, unless you just arrived from a foriegn planet, that is... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 22 Sep 10 - 02:30 AM Try USA Today. I simply cannot believe this one escaped you!! Even others have posted regarding this...Oh yeah, I forgot....you're blind to certain things.......and see only what you want to see. That's probably why you keep running over things while mowing the yard! GfS P.S. 6. U.S. recession may have ended in July: professor Share YouTube video; Photo contest » ... The U.S. recession may have ended in July as the labor market improved, a ... © 2008 - 2009 Postmedia Network Inc. All rights ... www.leaderpost.com/business/fp/recession+have+ended+July... - Cached 7. Recession Ended in June 2009, Group Says ... believed for some time, that the recession ended in the summer of 2009. The economy started growing again in the July ... YouTube; Twitter @kpbs @kpbsnews; FriendFeed www.kpbs.org/news/2010/sep/20/recession-ended-june-2009... - Cached 8. Recession Over » recession, deflation ... It turns out the recession over greater than ... concluded Monday that this a single ended — technically, anyway — in June 2009 ... veterans day world cup 2010 Youtube all4freehere.com/2010/09/whether-the-recession-really-over - Cached 9. Expert group: Great Recession ended in June ... The Great Recession ended in June 2009, the National Bureau of Economic ... com Revolutionary Roundtable Group: www.youtube ... Chambliss Said His Recession Comments From July ... article.wn.com/view/2010/09/20/Expert_group_Great... - Cached 10. Economic panel says recession ended in June 2009 Economic panel says recession ended in June 2009 Panel declares recession ended in June ... The economy started growing again in the July-to-September quarter of 2009, after a ... biz.yahoo.com/ap/100920/us_end_of_recession.html?.v=9 - Cached They must be examining their colons, personally, real well, and up close!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 22 Sep 10 - 02:24 AM Try USA Today. I simply cannot believe this one escaped you!! Even others have posted regarding this...Oh yeah, I forgot....you're blind to certain things.......and see only what you want to see. That's probably why you keep running over things while mowing the yard! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 21 Sep 10 - 01:14 PM Well, not on the front page of the Washington Post... Big story about a 7 figure donation to the Tea Party... But with the Supreme Courts latest legislation the American people have no right to know where that money came from... I'm not too sure, GfinS, what you are even talkin' about whatever earth-shattering story you are thinking of here... Is it "Recession is officially over, but anxiety lingeres"???... Or "Probes by FBI called improper"???... Or "Cildren of al-Qaeda in Iraq pay for sins of their fathers"???... Or "Mystery involving Arlington grave sites grows"???... Or is the Tea Part one entitled "Tea Party works to build on momentum"??? Those are the only stories on the front page of today's Post, GfinS... None else... None about the Dems demanding the the Tealiban offer up a statement that killing folks who disgree with you ain't cool... None about whatever it is that you think is earth-shattering... Me thinks that you could use a little time out with Betty Ford... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Sep 10 - 12:28 PM Gosh Bobert, It's on the front page, of every national paper, and top news story, on broadcast 'news' today. I suggest you get your head out of your 'posterior' and read something, besides this blog!..that is, if you can see straight! GfS P.S. When you see it, you let me know if you think you agree! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Stringsinger Date: 21 Sep 10 - 12:19 PM The "reliable source" for Bobert's contention is the display of guns at political rallies. This is analogous to junta mentality. Let's intimidate those who don't agree with us. As to Democrats, they are running scared right now. When they find their courage, they might become a viable Party again. As to Republicans, they have nothing valuable to offer. Their rage is impotent. Their lies are transparent but they don't care about that. Christine O'Donnel and Sarah Palin have nothing valuable to offer to solve the important issues of today, unemployment, meaningless wars, and fiscal policies. They are symbols of American insanity but at the root of their campaigns are the puppet-masters, the corporations that are financing them. This can be said for the Tea Party in general. The problem is that just like in Nazi Germany, the public is casting about for someone to blame for their economic predicament. Liberals, Democrats, Peaceniks, etc. are an easy target and with weapons available, they are often literal targets. Bill Maher may have a point. You are never going to eradicate terrorism. There will be crime and terrorism is one of them. Then again, if we can evolve beyond "fight and flight" we may have a chance of survival. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 21 Sep 10 - 08:12 AM Geeze, GfinS... I really haven't heard any Dems talkin' about this... Wish they would... Seems the Dems are a little gun-shy (pun intended) these days and not standing up for much... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Sep 10 - 12:06 AM Ohh...and by the way, speaking of DemoCRAP talking points, the Administration just released this today: The recession was over in July 2009!!!! I guess if you believe the spin on that one, you can believe about anything!!!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Sep 10 - 12:03 AM Bobert: "What we are talking about there is an entire political movement that has infused threats of violence into it's strategy..." Other than Democrap talking points, do you have a reliable source on that??..or are you just spouting off, again? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 20 Sep 10 - 04:29 PM Yer words, GfinS... The "environmental whack job"... The implication is that this guy was some kinda outsider who went postal... That is not an argument 'casue it deals with one person... What we are talking about there is an entire political movement that has infused threats of violence into it's strategy... If you can't see the difference then you have indeed earned the "in" in Gf"in"S... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Sep 10 - 01:30 PM I guess you missed the news item about the environmental whack job, who started firing his weapon, this past week, doing some killing, so the polluted environment wouldn't...oh, never mind. It was in the news, look it up. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:49 PM I don't recall the left threatenin' to shoot anyone, Slag, if they didn't agree with them... Yeah, there were some nutty people in the 60s but, hey, 20/20 hinsight the Black Panthers got guns to protect themselves... Didn't work out too well fir them as cops either shot them dead in their sleep or arrested them fir, ahhhhh, danged if I know... Don't remember any other refererneces to threatening to shoot ( or hang) folks that don't agree with you until Sarah Palin went out and riled up Redneck Nation... Now, it seems that we can't go a week without one of these people thrreatenin' to use 2nd ammendment remedies to get hie os her way... So this idea that the right is now doing waht the left has done for years is ***bogus***... It comnplete mythology intended to give cover to the rednecks who are out there thinkin' it's okay to shoot people if they don't agree with Redneck Nation's wanting to "get their country back"... That is a total crock of hog manure... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Slag Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:37 PM Yep Strings, when the right starts employing tactics that the left has used for decades, cry "foul"! Simply amazing. I happened to see one of the last California condors in the wild before efforst began to save them. Where? Elk Hills oil reserve, while working on an oil rig. That is all that is out there, hundreds, if not thousands of capped wells. You won't see the Roosevelt Elk there either. Those that still exist have been settled in other more hospitable areas. The last blunt nosed leapard lizard I saw anywhere near there was 30 miles north where now stands a state penitentiary (Delano). They must not have filed an enviroment impact report before building that one! That was a very interesting article, Ggfs. "Facts? We don' neeed no stinking facts!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:28 PM And thank you, Strings... Ya' ever notice how when people don't really have a defense they just try to change the subject... Unless, of course, it's a Tealibaner and then they either try to shout you down or threaten to shoot you... I hope that the Dems will point these things out between now and the November elctions... I think there are alot of independents who are tellin' pollster one thing but really haven't made up their minds and the borishjness o0f the tea Party could easially turn an entire the entire election if the Repubs and Tealiban are seen as too far extreme... Yeah, I know that the Repubs and the Tealiban is tryin' to paint anyone who votes for a Dem a "socialist" but I just don't see that stickin' too well... I think the right has overpalyed the socialist card this time around... b~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Stringsinger Date: 19 Sep 10 - 07:54 PM As I understand the environmental "whack jobs" as you refer to them, they don't hurt people. They will sometimes destroy property such as whaling vessels or lumber company equipment. I know of no environmental protest group that use weapons to further their cause ala the Tea Party. Al Gore has an environmentalist axe to grind but he's not really in it for the money. He may have political motivations for it but it is not a lucrative position that he is taking whereas the major corporate offenders are only interested in the bottom line and not in the welfare of the public or their customers. Their CEO's make a lot more than Gore ever dreamt of. Who is really crooked here? Al Gore may not be the perfect spokesperson for environmental protection but he is head and shoulders above anyone else today who is allowed to be broadcast on the media. The whole BP oil spill should convince anyone in their right mind of that. If you believe that chemical dispersants have eaten all the oil and made the ecological problems of the Gulf Coast go away, I have a Bridge in Brooklyn for sale to you. The Tea Partiers won't and can't have a position on this issue since they are purely a reactionary group who have no solutions to anything. Gore, no matter what you think of him, is pro-active on a cause he believes in. He is being attacked because he is perceived as being a "Liberal", something the reactionary Tea Party can't stand. It's ideological warfare based on ad hominem arguments. I think that Bobert's thread is appropriate and he has called it correctly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 19 Sep 10 - 01:10 PM Stringsinger: "When members of the Tea Party bring weapons to political events to try to intimidate those who don't agree with them, this is a terrorist tactic." Agreed...Same with the environmental Whack jobs who start blasting away and proceed in killing people!!!!...while agreeing with Gore, who allegedly IS MASQUERADING AS AN 'ENVIRONMENTALIST' only for the money. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 19 Sep 10 - 12:31 PM And thanks, Strings, fir bringing the discussion back into line... Seems so folks would rather just change the subject... No, the Tea Party using terrorism and Al Gore's mom's finacial portfolio as topics of conversation have nuthin' in common... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 19 Sep 10 - 11:48 AM Exactly, Srings... Think back on the so-called "town meetings last summer... Traditionally, the town meeting is one of the most democratic institutions in the country... Yet Dick Armey and Co. turned them into their own political theater by training these hotheads to turn what was supposed to be democratic meeting into their own little thuggish bullying ring... I mean, let's get real here... The Tealiban slobs who went to these meetings went with one intent and that was not to particiapte in democracy but to disrupt it... Hey, it's one thing to organize a bunch of like minded jerks and go out and have a ralley or demonstration... It's quite another to attend an event where people have come to participate, learn a little, maybe get up and ask questions or make comments just to prevent these people from ***their*** 1sy ammendment rights... Seems that the Tealiban is only interested in constitutional rights when it comes to ***their*** rights but don't give a flying fig about the rights of others... That, my friends, is what my mom calls "borish" beahvior... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Stringsinger Date: 19 Sep 10 - 11:24 AM When members of the Tea Party bring weapons to political events to try to intimidate those who don't agree with them, this is a terrorist tactic. The Tea Partiers will not allow those who disagree with them to speak at their rallies. They will shout them down as they always do because they think they are the only ones who are right. Most of them are over sixty and white. They offer no solutions to the unemployment problems that we have and generally support the meaningless war in Afghanistan and the absurd occupation of Iraq (which by the way is still occupied by American troops.) Dick Armey and the Koch brothers support this ragtag bunch of hot heads because it is a political weapon to use against Obama who is vilified by ugly posters and lied about. They say he is a Muslim and this is a lie. They also say he is Hitler and this is unjust. The Tea Partiers have no real credibility of representing sensible people in the US and have gotten a lot of publicity because it makes titillating copy in place of real news. They are very much the same ilk as the Brown Shirts of Nazi Germany, stirring up trouble and raging against the takeover of Liberals which are really non-existent. They have abused the Second Amendment of the Constitution to get their way through intimidation and bullying tactics. There are very few black people there because they know that the Tea Party is basically a racist reactionary party. The solution to the disease of the Tea Party is for sensible people to raise their objections which because most Americans have their head in the sand, they are unwilling to do. John Stewart offers a legitimate appeal to "taking it down a notch" and allowing for sanity in a crazy period of American history. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 19 Sep 10 - 09:27 AM Why don't we get sensationalist threads like this about the APP? I'll tell you why. Because apes are a whole lot smarter than humans, that's why. - Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:48 AM I mean, let's get real here... Many people of Al Gore's age get involved in helping aging parent manage stock portfolios... But there are different levels of management... The fact that Al Gore's mothers portfoloio had stock in Occidental Petrolium should not come as a major surprise... Lotta folks of her generation invested in Occidental because it was considered a safe (conservative) investment... Big deal... CorpWatch could better use it's time investigating the real petrolium crooks who actively and personally have been involved in wrong doing... I mean, they put the blast on Al Gore as if he was Dick Cheney... There's somethin' dishonest here... Al Gore helps his mom with some paperwork and gets the bigass Al-is-a-crook charge from CorpWatch and Dick Cheney gets a pass??? I mean, even if CorpWatch did a piece on Cheney it's completely incongruent that CorpWatch would elevate Al Gore to Cheney's "crook level status" for helpin' his mom with her investments... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 18 Sep 10 - 09:28 PM Innuendos and name calling...hmmm...is that all you got????? Who put you up to this..the crazed biscuit queen of the north? Betcha didn't know this! Hurray for integrity!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 18 Sep 10 - 07:10 PM Alll ya gotta do, Amos, is read whatever wingnut blog that GfinS wants yhou to read and then you too can be part of the growing... ...Al-Gore-is-a-crook consiracy... I'm sure GfinS has plenty of links to them folks who will be more than happy to pass along not only that conspiracy theory but if you order now, you will also recieve the Al-Gore-kidnapped-the-Limburg-baby conspracy "evidence", as well... But wait... There's more... That's right, if you order now you will not only recieve the Al-Gore-is-a-crook conspiarcy material and the Al-Gore-kidnapped-the-Limburg-baby stuff but also... ... the Al-Gore-devorced-Tipper-to-marry-bin-Laden's-sister conspiracy material ahead of its scheduled Oct. 19th official release date so... ...order now at http;///www.GuestfrominSanity.com and... ...thank you fir yer support... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Amos Date: 18 Sep 10 - 10:38 AM GoS: Your analysis of Gore could stand a little fleshing out--it seems to be short of particulars and in need of some nuancing. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 18 Sep 10 - 09:59 AM Bobert, I suggest you read, or somehow get acquainted with the news. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 18 Sep 10 - 09:20 AM Who says he is lieing, GfinS??? You??? The Polluters??? Bush former flat-eart socalled scientists??? FOX??? The Tea Party??? John Birch hisself??? No, Lyndon LaRouche??? Mickey Mouse??? More to being a liar than having folks with different agendas proclamin' you one... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 18 Sep 10 - 01:54 AM Bobert: "Might of fact, he probably knows more about environmental issues than the entire Mudville population..." He probably does...so why is he lying his ass off.....money?????? To be relevant????? Gore is so full of shit, that those who start defending him, or spouting his crap, are also full of it!...and there ain't no two ways about it!!! Speaking of which, when the political loonies run out of common sense, and their so-called arguments are found to be full of holes, because there are no FACTS in their rap, they resort to 'name calling', and accusations..instead of an intelligent debate. Gore, and his acknowledged fraudulent 'theories' have been PROVEN to be full of lies, and disinformation. THAT is a FACT!! To hang on, and try to defend his position, then makes you just spouting old, left over, propaganda, that didn't work!!!! How stupid is THAT?????? Oh!!!..BUT he is a Democrap...so let's all rally behind him, no matter how full of shit he is!!! Can't wait till his ex-ol' lady, publishes the book ,that reveals what an absolute phony his is!!....and you'll still be in denial!!!! Sheesh!, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 17 Sep 10 - 09:09 PM The bottom line here is that some folks here think it is perfectly okay in their book to villify someone because they don't agree with them... Poor ol' Al Gore ain't no demon... Might of fact, he probably knows more about environmental issues than the entire Mudville population... Hey, if you take a country to war for bogus reasons you deserve the criticism but to try to make Al Gore into some kinda moronic monster is just way the heck over the line interms of trying to win whatever debating points one is trying to win... (But, Bobert... You have called the Tea Party folks loonies, terrorists, racists, etc...) Well, yeah... I have... And I'm sure that alot of them folks have just gotten caught up in Dick Armey's multi-million doallr community organizing affort against Desm and Obama... But when I look at the pictures and read the signs it's hard not revisist tapes of the KKK from my childhood and young adulthood... I mean, if the Tea Party evdedr wants my respect it has to step to the plate and say, "2nd ammendmant solution" against your polititical opponents are not American... Until then, hey, they are nuthin' but a bunch or renegade, lynch-mob rednecks... B~ |