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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,999 Date: 20 Jul 11 - 07:39 PM As an aside, it's too freaking hot to argue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,999 Date: 20 Jul 11 - 07:38 PM GfS: I think the following needs amendment, because were it so, there wouldn't be such a preponderance of Republicans IN the TP (which stands for tea party (or toilet paper)). "Look, I'm not 'defending' the Tea Party..frankly, they are a re-active backlash, to the 'ruling class' corrupted, WASTEFUL, lying, spending spree of the last few administrations, run by the international mega-corps, and bankers who have bought off our politicians." |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 11 - 07:21 PM No, neither of you get it, GfinS and LH... You want to play the 2000 Nader fight song over and over and over... Hey, look, I was a precinct leader for Nader in 2000... I know the song... The song no longer works... It is hopelessly passe and does not recognize the assault that the Repubs are trying to pull on the working class... I'm not saying the Dems are all that great... I am suggesting that they are, at least for now, all we have to stand up to the right wing... But ya'll go on with your duet even if every verse sounds a little worse than the last... If this were the gong show ya'll woulda gotten the hook long ago... BTW, this is 2011... Not 2000... Not '96... Not 92... Not your grandfather's fucking Oldsmobile... "And then they came for me"... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 20 Jul 11 - 07:01 PM Get a room u 2!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:50 PM For the longest while, I too, got out of the political bickering, because the measure of the rhetoric being tossed back and forth, was equal to the utter ignorance, of the poster...especially when it came to 'partisan folly-blather'! It's like they are retarded and proud of it!...and just keep digging their pit of block-headed stupidity, and think they will be admired for the depth of the hole, they dug, even when they can't seem to dig their way out..by frantically digging faster...(like borrowing and gambling to get out of a gambling debt!)..not unlike our present administration! Problem is, once you submit and subject yourself to someone for a 'blessing' they are promising...you also submit and subject yourself to their 'curse', as well! That's what you get for submitting and subjecting yourself to the 'lesser of to EVILS'!!! BTW, it was both Don and Baghdad Bob 'Lim-bert' who advised me to vote for the lesser of the two evils, in earlier posts! RUBBISH!! GfS P.S. Shit, maybe I should move to Canada, and crash in on ya'! |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:34 PM Jon - The political parties in Canada are the same basic deal as in the UK...they serve entrenched special interests (the rich), not the general public. The prevailing social system, though, is considerably saner, kinder, and more rational than is the case in the USA. I think that's simply a fortunate after-effect of a kinder, more reasonable social history in Canada in the last 200 years. It's positive inertia carring on from the past. It certainly isn't due to the spotless morals of our corrupted political parties! ;-) The public in Canada, for instance, already expects and insists upon a universal health care system, takes it for granted as a normal civil right, and the politicians know it. Therefore they can't demonize it as "socialism" and they don't dare dismantle it. That's not the case in the USA, where they CAN demonize it as socialism, and where they've never had it. Canadians are protected merely by the fact that we have had a strong history of progressive social legislation in place already, and it's very hard for our corrupt political parties to tear it down now that people are used to it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:25 PM I very seldom post on the political threads anymore, GfS, because they are like a toxic tarpit...very easy to get trapped in...and full of illwill, hostility, and other negative emotional stuff that can only make one's day a little worse than it might have been if one hadn't bothered stepping in in the first place. Basically a waste of one's time and energy. People come to vent at each other, that's all, and to "prove" how righteously superior they are to anyone who doesn't agree with them. I can't see how it would benefit anyone's life getting drawn into such hostile discussions. But I did like what you had to say, and I loved the Italian trio, so I thought I'd comment on those briefly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Jon Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:18 PM You mean it is different in Canada, LH? Personally, I don't see the UK as different. Our two main parties do differ in that one pulls harder than the other but they both pull in the same direction. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:17 PM Why THANK YOU, Little Hawk...for a while I was beginning to think that the Mudcat forum was void of any common sense,(other than my own, of course!). Ex-Pres. Nixon was right about one thing....."This will all blow over soon. The American public has the attention span of about two weeks!" GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Jul 11 - 05:47 PM The Italian trio is marvelous, GfS!!! As for your previous post to that, GfS, right on the money. You're the one who doesn't get it, Bobert, because you are trapped in the old "us and them" 2-party mythology. Your intentions are excellent, but your thinking is out of date. Both your major parties are serving the rich elite and they are both intent on demolishing social security, wrecking the trade unions, taking away the social safety net, removing your civil rights, betraying your Constitution, giving away medicare to the rich medical elites, drug companies, and private health insurers, fighting foreign wars, serving the richest 1% of society and exploiting the rest. They use the 2-party system and its phony propaganda to divide and conquer the public. You throw own party out after 8 years of idiocy and corruption...the other one comes in...and the idiocy and corruption just goes on. Presently you throw that party out and the previous one returns to office...and the idiocy and corruption just goes on. Why? Because it was planned that way, that's why. Obama won't save you. He doesn't work for you. He works for the rich elites, same as Bush did. The next guy (or gal) after Obama won't save you either. What can you do about it? Damned if I know! What could an individual German of wisdom and conscience do after 1933? Not bloody much, except maybe leave the country like Marlene Dietrich did. So I won't advise you what to do, because if it was me I would leave the USA and go somewhere else. (And there are plenty of Americans I know living in Canada who have done just that.) But I doubt you want to leave. After all, you were born there...and ties are strong to the land of one's birth, as I well know. It takes a lot to walk away from your own country. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 11 - 05:10 PM As long as you are stuck on the "both sides" Repub-speak, GfinS, all you are doing is parroting exactly what the Repubs wnat you to say... It gives them cover from their real motives which plainly are to disassemble the New Deal, one piece at a time... That has been the goal of the rich and the right going back all the way to when FDR got those pieces put in place... And there is a very good reason why the rich want to do this... Their perfect strom is no unions, no social security, no medicare, no safety nets and no laws preventing them from oppressing the working class... These goals have been passed down from generation to generation and right now they have their best chance in 60 years and they are pushing hard... They have bought congress and the supreme court and now they are out to buy a country where they write all the rules and have all the money... They aren't that far from that and the Tea Party is their sword and shield right now with the rest of the Republican Party right behind... And they are using some of the very same tactics that the Nazi's used... If you bothered to study history you would see what a lot of us are telling you... Until you drop the "both side" Repub speak and mentality you will not be free to see things for yourself but stuck in the Repub spin turbine... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 11 - 04:52 PM Here, even kids have more brains..... Here, activate a brain cell GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 11 - 04:44 PM What a bunch of desperate 'blah-blah' double talk!!! Look, I'm not 'defending' the Tea Party..frankly, they are a re-active backlash, to the 'ruling class' corrupted, WASTEFUL, lying, spending spree of the last few administrations, run by the international mega-corps, and bankers who have bought off our politicians. ANY nitwit can see that!..its just that both sides of this circus keep the focus, OFF the real problem, and onto the partisan 'differences'...that THEY create in your minds!.......in 2006, when voting on raising the debt ceiling, Obama, Reid, Shumer, Clinton, Pelosi, Durbin...and ALL of the Democratic house, voted NOT to raise the ceiling...now they are all campaigning to raise it....sounds a little fishy to me! On the other hand, the Republicans were all voting FOR raising it. Here comes the 'Tea Party', and an overwhelming Conservative landslide, in the last election, as a mandate to control spending and NOT raise taxes, and once again, the 'ruling class' of career politicians, on both sides, turn a deaf ear to the will of the people, and are now engaged in this phony rhetoric, of trying to figure out, how to tell Americans, politely, how to bend over, and take it in the rear, as if we have NO other choices, than the ones they bullshit us, are the only ones!! The absolute utter nonsense crap some of you are spouting about the Tea Party, is the exact same crap the 'far right' was using against the Bill Clinton regime..in which firearms sales went through the roof!.....almost word for word!!! So now, through emotional manipulations, through the press, Americans are all looking across at each other thinking that everybody 'else' is their mortal enemies! This is absolute rubbish!..Meanwhile, the REAL villains must be laughing up their sleeves, all the way to corporate headquarters, of their favorite bank they own, confident that a LOT of very stupid people out there, have NO CLUE, as to how to address the REAL problem: THEM!...and instead, all we get is a bunch of indoctrinated blowhards trying to sound profoundly wise..and intellectually astute, in the garbage they've thrown at you to pontificate about!!!! In the nineties, it was the 'liberal' Democrats who were the 'terrorists'..in the 2000's, it was the Republicans, now its the Tea Partiers.....jeez, get a fucking clue!!...Meanwhile, we are, "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy and the Big Fool Says to Push On"....and you think/thought they're talkin' about someone else!!!!...I cannot bring myself around to totally believe that people are so fucking stupid, as not to clock this!! Being as the biggest part of the deficit is the interest on the 'loans', why not get the people who manipulate the loans and interest on them to 'make the sacrifice'????....It's all just pre-fab, greed, corruption, and power plays...and NOT for OUR best interests! Bush, Clinton, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Biden, Romney, Frank, Dodd, Mitchell and MORE are just their shills!!..Isn't that patently obvious to you by now?? ...or are you going to claim a learning disability, under the 'Stupidity Act'??? And I thought that music is said to stimulate more neurons in the brain than ANY other activity on the planet.......maybe some of you should try learning a fourth chord!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,999 Date: 20 Jul 11 - 03:17 PM "Membership and demographics Several polls have been conducted on the demographics of the movement. Though the various polls sometimes turn up slightly different results, they tend to show that Tea Party supporters are mainly white and slightly more likely to be male, married, older than 45, more conservative than the general population, and likely to be more wealthy and have more education.[68][69][70][71][72] One Gallup poll found that other than gender, income and politics, self-described Tea Party members were demographically similar to the population as a whole.[73] When surveying supporters or participants of the Tea Party movement, polls have shown that they are to a very great extent more likely to be registered Republican, have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party and an unfavorable opinion of the Democratic Party.[72][74][75] The Bloomberg National Poll of adults 18 and over showed that 40% of Tea Party supporters are 55 or older, compared with 32% of all poll respondents; 79% are white, 61% are men and 44% identify as "born-again" Christians,[76] compared with 75%,[77] 48.5%,[78] and 34%[79] for the general population, respectively." Wikipedia |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 20 Jul 11 - 02:50 PM GfS, the stuff on YouTube that you linked to is exactly what I'm complaining about—among other things. INCLUDING your abysmal lack of knowledge of political philosophies and political systems. Thomas Jefferson is credited with saying "an educated and informed electorate is essential to the preservation of Democracy," or words to that effect. There are many variations on this statement because he spoke on this theme many times. Although it's interesting to note that (despite being able to cite Jefferson's personal letters and texts of speeches), there are a number of Right-Wing blogs and web sites that claim Jefferson never said any of this. It sounds like, by denying this, they are FOR being ignorant and ill-informed (which may explain Fox News), and they go on to claim that all he talked about was to keep business free from government regulation (actually, an excerpt from speeches by Ronald Reagan) and to preserve the people's "right to bear arms," (right out of the NRA brochure). In an effort to try to support their aims, the Right-Wing has to rewrite one helluva lot of history. YOU may be a one-trick pony, GfS, but others of us can make music AND keep ourselves politically informed and aware, AND be politically active and engaged—all at the same time. Go read a book. Several books. I would suggest you begin with First Democracy: The Challenge of an Ancient Idea, by Paul Woodruff. Read the WHOLE THING. It will prepare you for Woodruff's final chapter, "Are Americans Ready for Democracy?' Fer Chissake, EDUCATE youself before you start popping off and you might not come off sounding so much like a twit! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 20 Jul 11 - 01:37 PM I'm not avoiding ANYTHING, GfS. What, to you, is the "real issue?" Beethoven or the Tea Party? Like I said, incoherent. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Donuel Date: 20 Jul 11 - 11:14 AM Tea party enthusiasm: Hey, we may not have majority power but we have power to stop delay or ignor anything in the Federal Government, this thing is fuckin golden. We are not going to let this thing go for free. We are gonna make history doing the things we promised to do... which is stop, delay or ignor the business of the Federal Gov. We vow to not believe anything we are told in Washington, We pledge to obey every pledge we are given by Norquist and people of faith no matter what. Our pledges supercede the CONstitutin of the USA. Then were gonna blame it all on the liar do nothing President and get a white man back in the White House, after we sanitize it, ha ha ha! And if that doesn't work we can shoot em. HAHAHAHA~ Amen |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 11 - 11:03 AM I quite agree, Donuel.... These people represent about 15% (20% tops) yet have this dictatorial attitude that they have 100% backing of the American people... In mental health this would fall squarely in the schizophrenic "illusions of grandeur" category... Yes, they are terrorist on many levels but trying to kill off the American economy is exactly what Osama bib Laden & Co. have always held as the #1 goal... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Donuel Date: 20 Jul 11 - 09:00 AM IF a group of domestic terrorists attacked the US financially and cost the US 7 trillion dollars of damage in higher interest and default penalties, with no infrastructure or jobs to show for the money, it would be an act of treason by enemies of the uS. The Tea party caucus in the house are perilously close to commiting such an attack by voting to not pay our debt. If a terrorist attack the US this way out of ignorance or malice, the damage is done and a crime has been commited. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 11 - 03:42 AM ..but then, maybe I'm dealing with this..on Mudcat... ..and this...judging from some of the posts, as of recent.... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 11 - 02:42 AM Don: "Because it's totally irrelevant to the discussion. And I'm sorry to say, the rest of your post is incoherent." Horse shit! You are avoiding the real issue! Donuel: "It is a corporate paradise in Tea Party heaven. $2 or less an hour jobs right here in the good ol US of A. That is a savings compared to shipping from China." Hmm Democratic heaven..at least the unemployment went down! "In Tea Party HEaven Sates Rights would rule and the only Federal Government is the Dept of Defense, which argualby is a safety program but will be tolerated to satisfy arms dealers." Isn't that what the Democrats want?? "In Tea Party Heaven, The States would control education and the roads. Checkpoints would be built to keep out outside agitators. They would make a profit by confiscating forbidden items such as food clothing and large quantites of cash." Federal funding for an ever expanding government PLUS more government workers....Democrat bliss! "In Tea Party Heaven you birth certificate might not be accepted if you try to enter Kansas, especailly if you were born in NYC." "Oh Toto, were not in Kansas anymore," That was a dumb one anyway, Donuel! Who wants to go to Kansas, anyway? "In Tea Party heaven you are not your brother's keeper. If someone keeps over in front of you it is their responsibility to pull themselves up by their own boot straps. If it happens to be you, Jesus will save you." No, you'd rather have the state come in and help you, after all, you are 'entitled'! "In Tea Party Heaven you could elect your own President, since some States are composed of people who are not real Americans." Obama??? I thought he was a Democrat! "In Tea Party Heaven if your State has a nuclear weapon facility you will have authority over its use, expecially if you have a general in the DOD from your own State." In a Democratic state, the State is everywhere doing everything..including telling you what to think...as evident by this post..which has your head turned around..like Don's. He needs to see what THIS administration has done that is IDENTICAL to pre-WWII Germany.....but he has 'redefined' the obvious, just to fit into his squawking points..fed to him by 'Baghdad Bobert' "In Tea Party Heaven, everyone will get what they deserve by the fruits of their own labor, slave labor, wage slavery or trafficking in illegals." What illegals??? I thought the Democrats, like Republicans, like bought out globalists don't recognize borders.....except one corporation to another....with the World bank and monetary fund globalists as the 'new' Federal Central government!!! ......and fuck the Tea party TOO! They come, and they go.....but great music, such as Beethoven, goes on..and on, 'Dingle-berry Don'! Why aren't you doing great music, instead of this political carousel ride?..going round and around! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 20 Jul 11 - 12:40 AM I didn't actually bother to read it, Bobert. All I needed was to glance at the boldface headings to see that it was just another Sawzaw cut'n'paste job. But it did confirm that Sawzaw has the full run of degrees: BS, MS, and PhD. We all know what BS is. MS stands for "More of the Same." And PhD stands for "Piled higher and Deeper." Past my bedtime. Nighty-night, all. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 19 Jul 11 - 07:48 PM Stack was obviously and ill tempered nut job who thinks tearing things down is better than doing the hard work for the betterment of society. He may not have been an official member of the Tea Party. But he sure was living the lifestyle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 19 Jul 11 - 07:23 PM Only stinks if you bother to read it... I just scroll on by... He's not worth my time... He has totally marginalized himself... Yawn... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Greg F. Date: 19 Jul 11 - 05:00 PM No, there's a pile of bullshit. But it DOES stink. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 19 Jul 11 - 03:30 PM Now, THERE, ladies and gentlemen, is a STINK BOMB! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Sawzaw Date: 19 Jul 11 - 02:10 PM Speaking of "radical and rabid ideologues", Here is another chapter for Bobert's hate and fear-mongering stinkb... er thread. A Left Wing Terrorist Attack: On February 18, 2010, Andrew Joseph Stack III flew his airplane into the IRS building in Austin, TX killing one other person and injuring many more in an act of lone wolf terrorism. He cited many reasons for his grievance against the government of the United States as well as other facets of the country such as bailout of financial institutions, politicians in general, conglomerate companies of General Motors, Enron and Arthur Andersen, labor unions, drug and health care insurance companies, and the Catholic Church. He added a meeting with a poor widow who never got pension benefits she was promised, the effect of the Tax Reform Act of 1986 on engineers, the September 11 attacks airline bailouts that only benefited the airlines but not the suffering engineers, how a Certified Public Accountant he hired seemed to side with the government to take extra tax money from him, criticism of the FAA and the George W. Bush administration were reasons. Left Wing comments in his manifesto/suicide note: "the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year" "the political 'representatives' (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the terrible health care problem" "the wonderful [tax] 'exemptions' that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy." "I live in a country with an ideology that is based on a total and complete lie" "thanks to the fine backroom, midnight effort by the sleazy executives of Arthur Andersen (the very same folks who later brought us Enron and other such calamities" "the Government came to the aid of the airlines with billions of our tax dollars as usual they left me to rot and die while they bailed out their rich, incompetent cronies" "a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years)" "presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government" The above sentiments from Obama campaign speeches evidently fired up this man's hatred of GWB. How the drooling lefties viciously and frantically try to pin it on the Tea Party which Stack had nothing to do with: A Facebook page was established for Joseph Andrew Stack. It was built with every symbol of the tea party movement you could find. It appears the site was not built by Stack, but by an impostor hoping to destroy the tea party movement named Emily Walters "Finally an American man took a stand against our tyrannical government that no longer follows the Constitution," wrote Emily Walters of Louisville, Ky. Walters, member of Americans Against the Tea Party, was one of at least two dozen people who founded Facebook fan groups to hail the homicidal pilot. Most had only a tiny handful of members, but hers attracted more than 200 before Facebook removed it. Emily Walters has apparently released a statement. Somehow, this deranged girl thinks that misrepresenting a dead man and the Tea Party is all about her free speech. Facebook removed the fake Stack Facebook account she created and her account so she has had her boyfriend open another Fake Stack Facebook account This is Emily Walters. Im really disappointed about the way the facebook page was portrayed. It was intended to get opinions, not to suggest that Joseph Stack was a member of the Tea Party. Thank you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 19 Jul 11 - 01:53 PM GfS: "BTW, you seemed to ignore my comment on Beethoven's music outlasting a slew of different forms of government…." Because it's totally irrelevant to the discussion. And I'm sorry to say, the rest of your post is incoherent. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 19 Jul 11 - 12:51 PM I'm talking about the radical and rabid ideologues that the Koch brothers (air polluters, water poisoners) and Dick Armey (health insurance lobby) spent 100s of Million$$$ of $$$ organizing into their own block of influence commonly known as the Tea Party... Google up Koch bothers and/or Freedom Works and see for yerself what corporations are using these people to keep the mean ol' gov-mint from being able to prevent them from rippin' the American people off... The New Yorker magazine wrote an very extensive article on the Koch brothers involvement... Here's the kicker... Hundred of "community organizers" (horrors, not community organizers...lol) were hired, offices rented, printing companies, bus companies, etc all paid for by these guys... Give me the $$$ that they spent buying the Tea Party and I would have an army of progressives elected, too... The reality is that 90% the money is held by those on the right... Progressives tend to be much better educated but not all that wealthy... That's why out country is in trouble... The rich flat out don't want to pay their fair share so they buy up large chunks of Congress and stack the deck... It's called Reaganomics... The Fall of '08 should have alerted the American people to the game but before the American people could get it sorted out the big PR $$$'s were already being deployed to spread anti-Obama/anti-government propaganda... And that's the way it is... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 19 Jul 11 - 11:29 AM Bobert: "In other words, they are deadbeats and free loaders using their redneck pawns as their "brown shirts"..." Are you talking about the fraudulant welfare roles, or the bureaucrats who run it? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 19 Jul 11 - 11:18 AM Not at all sure, Strings, why you are referring to ther Tea Party as Tea-o-crats because that implies they are part of the Demo"crats" as opposed to the reality that they are the right flank of the Republican Party... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Stringsinger Date: 19 Jul 11 - 10:57 AM There is a conservative religious dimension to this dementia. Bachmann is exhibit A. The Tea-o-cratic Party is not all Grover Norquist, cutting everything aside. Karl Rove has been whistling "Onward Christian Soldiers" for years. "Place your hand on the bible and repeat after me, 'no taxes' but ok to tithe if you want. Corporate tithing is also accepted by Visa and Mastercard. SCOTUS is amply represented by the Tea-o-crats. Whose calling the shots here? Roberts, Scalita or god? |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 19 Jul 11 - 09:01 AM Talk about posting while sauced??? BTW, just for the record, the incoming Tea Partiers in the House is not only the richest freshman class but the only one with an *average* net worth of $1.5M... These people are just rich people who don't want to pay their far share... In other words, they are deadbeats and free loaders using their redneck pawns as their "brown shirts"... One can say that its the same on the other side of the political divide but that's about all they are doing; "saying it"... Problem is that saying it is propagating what Hitler referred to as THE BIG LIE... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 19 Jul 11 - 08:34 AM Don: "GfS, do you actually have a clue as to what the differences are between the misnamed National "Socialist" Party (nothing socialist about it, it was a fascist party) and what is generally referred to (very loosely) as that catch-all term that the politically bewildered are fond of using, "the Liberal Left?"" Don, It's ALL bullshit! We DON"T need ANY of it! ALL of them are a bludgeon to our liberties and freedoms, regardless of their so-called 'promises'!....BTW, you seemed to ignore my comment on Beethoven's music outlasting a slew of different forms of government in Germany/Austria. I think that is a great model for bullshit coming and going...and only causing heartache, grief, and millions of deaths. Perhaps, the raising of intelligence (which, of course, political manipulators abhor), and the freedom of thought, that comes with it, might do a lot better for the world, than some bunch of manipulating 'control freaks' forcing people to support utter folly, would serve mankind a lot better....than the struggle of which 'political tyranny' should be combating each other! FUCK 'ISMS'!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Donuel Date: 18 Jul 11 - 10:17 PM It is a corporate paradise in Tea Party heaven. $2 or less an hour jobs right here in the good ol US of A. That is a savings compared to shipping from China. In Tea Party HEaven Sates Rights would rule and the only Federal Government is the Dept of Defense, which argualby is a safety program but will be tolerated to satisfy arms dealers. In Tea Party Heaven, The States would control education and the roads. Checkpoints would be built to keep out outside agitators. They would make a profit by confiscating forbidden items such as food clothing and large quantites of cash. In Tea Party Heaven you birth certificate might not be accepted if you try to enter Kansas, especailly if you were born in NYC. In Tea Party heaven you are not your brother's keeper. If someone keeps over in front of you it is their responsibility to pull themselves up by their own boot straps. If it happens to be you, Jesus will save you. In Tea Party Heaven you could elect your own President, since some States are composed of people who are not real Americans. In Tea Party Heaven if your State has a nuclear weapon facility you will have authority over its use, expecially if you have a general in the DOD from your own State. In Tea Party Heaven, everyone will get what they deserve by the fruits of their own labor, slave labor, wage slavery or trafficking in illegals. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,999 Date: 18 Jul 11 - 09:22 PM No offence to anyone, but it's too hot for this shit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 18 Jul 11 - 08:57 PM What Don said... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 18 Jul 11 - 07:09 PM GfS, do you actually have a clue as to what the differences are between the misnamed National "Socialist" Party (nothing socialist about it, it was a fascist party) and what is generally referred to (very loosely) as that catch-all term that the politically bewildered are fond of using, "the Liberal Left?" It doesn't look like it! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 18 Jul 11 - 02:30 PM Who cares? Did you find your mirror? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Greg F. Date: 18 Jul 11 - 02:06 PM I'm always up for accuracy! GfS I haven't laughed so hard in a long, long time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 18 Jul 11 - 12:09 PM Thank you, 'Guest 999'. I'm always up for accuracy! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,999 Date: 18 Jul 11 - 08:50 AM "Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn!" The actual line was 'Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.' |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 18 Jul 11 - 07:27 AM Not at all, Don.....actually, come to think of it, you might have a point there, but it doesn't mean what I see isn't true!...but from a National Socialist Party's standpoint, as a lot of far leaning 'lefty' devotees, who support(ed) either one, I'm sure they haven't really taken a real good look at the similarities...or themselves in it!..And of all people, you! Bobert is just spouting the regular non-thinking party line..but you...of all people....let me ask you just one thing..OK?...How many governments and/or forms of governments, has Germany/Austria had since Beethoven???...Which has out-lived the other?? As I've said on, now numerous occasions, 'I'm not with the party, I'm with the band!' Now, reach deep:..... Oh yeah, and another thing...to be 'leaning to the left', you must be sitting on the 'right'......but most 'lefties' can't see that, either. ..Oh, and you might consider just one more thing....Is Obama, as Bush, just a shill for the mega-corporate/international bankers...and another thing, can you, for the life of me, explain the difference, between belonging to an all controlling corporation, and being a member of a co-op in the Communist Party? Just who is 'zooming' who?? ....and what exactly is the difference between political 'bureaucrats' and the 'politburo'???...'cuz we sure are filled up with them! ........But, the 'liberal left', AND the 'far right', have been blinded by ideological rhetoric to accurately see what they really are.....but wasn't that the point? Before your head explodes, AGAIN...think about it.............THIS TIME! GfS "Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 17 Jul 11 - 10:18 PM That, GfS, is contemptible! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 17 Jul 11 - 08:52 PM Well if your likening Obama with Adolf, then I see your point, all to well....Do you???????????????? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 17 Jul 11 - 08:35 PM It's called "Reality Sauce", GfinS... Google up Germany 1930s and read it all for yourself... History repeats itself... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 17 Jul 11 - 06:40 PM Judging from reading your post,..or trying to read your post...you might want to lay off the sauce....unless, of course, that was intentional...then that would explain your views, as not being able to differentiate the WHOLE of what has happened to our government, and how you seem to exclude the Democrats, as having ANY part of its being fucked up!...It just defies gravity, that somehow, someway you can't, don't or refuse to see that! And yes, you had it right earlier, when you pointed to the corruption(finally)! Who do you think they are going to listen to...YOU???(or us)..or a globalist banker lobbyist waving a profitable 'pay-off' in front of their noses??!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Bobert Date: 16 Jul 11 - 08:59 PM Why doi I support it??? I don't... I am a realist (look it up, GfinS)... We are facing a real honest-to-God push by people who, frankly, would are eat up with fascism and they would be more than happy to end democracy today if it meant that they get to write ***all*** the rules and enforce them the way the see fit... These people, BTW aren't on the left side of the political divide... These are the Tea Party people... None of their ideas make any sense... None... But they use words like liberty and freedom as their swords and shields... Liberty and freedom are concepts for which these poeple have no understanding... We want out government back??? W@hat does that mean exactly??? It means absolutely nothing at all... It does not justify one single policy position... It all puff... We want government out of our lives??? Okay, what do they mean here??? Nothing at all... When the flood hits they can't get enough government... When their great aunt goes into the nursing home, they can't get enough government.... When it comes to a woman's right to choose, they can't get enough government... If one studies Germany in the 1930's it is amazing just how many things the Nazis said that are now coming out of the Tea party's mouths... But these people don't want to study Germany in the 1930s for 2 reasons: First, they don't read much and that explains just how poorly they are at understanding basic economics, history, government, etc but more importantly they don't want to know the truth about their own tactics and policy positions... Noraml... Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: Don Firth Date: 16 Jul 11 - 07:08 PM Our society is neither a true democracy nor a totalitarian regime. The jury is still out, and which way it goes depends on US. So lets get crackin'! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization?? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 16 Jul 11 - 05:30 PM Bobert: "BTW, in a true democracy, totalitarianism is never possible... It only becomes possible in a corrupted system and then it is no longer a true democracy..." Then why do you so vigorously support it???????????????????????? GfS |