BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 10:48 PM

Lobbiests!?!?!.... They wrote the entire Medicare perscription unfunded legislation word for word and then wee into the morning ordered their boys to break with Congressional rules to bully their people into voting for passage...

What you don't/can't/won't see there, Sawz, is that the progressive agenda is completely trumped by corporate money and has been for pushing 35 years...

And every year that goes on is another where the average workin' stiff is completely disrespected -that is if he/she is lucky (ha) enough to have a a fuckin' job working fir Boss Hog - and pushed further toward indentured slavery...

This is like, ahhhhhh, Boss Hog Heaven!!! Got one foot on workin' man's neck and the other on a pile of stolen cash...

Now we got all these John Galt's runnin' 'round the streets yellin' "Thunderdome" time... Ya'll slackin' folks who don't wanta work, die... I mean, wait until it is them that needs the government and then the government be their best friend...

Square business...

BTW, ya'll... Wonderin' where all that "2nd Ammendment remedies" crap done gone??? Hmmmmmmmmm??? I mean, kinda nice not to hear it but the scarey thing is that before the folks that know how ya gotta sound to get votes do the make-over ya' gotta wonder just how a PR make-over changes what people really believe???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 10:09 PM

"Obama can veto any dumbass flat-earth laws that would be passed by a dumbass Congress catering to some very uneducated dumbass people."

He can but he don't. And it is lobbyists that the Congress is catering to. That's why his health care bill has only raised the cost of health care.

He says he has created jobs. People who don't have jobs disagree.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 10:42 AM

BTW, ya'll... Talk about terrorism... Remember how you felt in the Fall 0f '08 with the economy corkscrewing toward the ground??? If we were to turn the economy over to the Tea Partiers with their very limited understanding of how things work in the ***real world*** those days would be looked on as the "good old days"...

I mean, we have Tea Party folks writing into the newspaper every week here in Page County, Va. and they are some very scarey people with some very simplistic answers to some very complex problems...

Cutting taxes and trying to cut the deficit is not posssible unless the government makes major cuts that, in themselves, would remove enough overall spending in the economy to cripple the country forever... I mean, how do you spell "failed state"???

The fortunate part of this is that Obama can veto any dumbass flat-earth laws that would be passed by a dumbass Congress catering to some very uneducated dumbass people...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 10:13 AM

Listen, Sawz... All you are doing is digging a deeper hole... You must think tyhis is like a couple hundred years ago... In this global economy if you are not willing to do what needs to be done in terms of "reality economics" then you are falt out not qualified to ***lead***... Period!!!

Stickin' yert dumbass head in the sand is not a responsible option... Shit doersn't just go away because you wish it would... The Fed is trying to create jobs... Guess you don't care about jobs??? Normal... The Repubs keep saying they are into job creation but fight every conventional way that a government can create jobs...

And please spare US that worn out mythology about tax cuts creating jobs 'cause that is a bogus argument... The Fortune 500 is sitting on piles of uninvetsed cash now ($1.7T has been reported) so giving them a bigger pile of uninvested cash ain't gonna do squat except take yet more money out of the economy...

Might of fact, Sawz... Me thinks you are clueless as to what goes into the GNP...

Like I have said before... You understanding of basic economics bears no resembelence to reality... You need to learn yerseff up on this stuff before exposing anymore of "Econ According to Sawz"...

Right now, seems tyhat all you are intent on doing here, other than demonstrating just how out of control you obsession is with me is showin' just how ignorant you are...

Have at it...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 10:11 AM

Bobert are you jest an ol' Hillbilly calculatin' with with your WSGR or are you a highly educaited college economics perfesser?



IMF Warns On Currency War [But Borbert says not to worry, just leave it up to the Progressives]

Los Angeles 10/06/2010

The IMF head said that the growing trend towards devaluing currencies may obstruct global economic recovery, as the dollar fell further Wednesday.

Predictions that Federal Reserve is once again planning measures that can lower the dollar's value, combined with China's refusal to allow Yuan to rise quickly, have made currencies the hottest topic at the summit of finance chiefs from G7 countries.

Few people expect any meaningful agreement at the G7 meeting or the IMF summit that follows.

Commenting on US policy, Nobel economics laureate Joseph Stiglitz said, "It's doing nothing for the American economy, but it's causing chaos over the rest of the world. It's a very strange policy that they are pursuing".

The dollar suffered more losses Wednesday, plummeting to an eight and-a-half month trough versus a basket of currencies and moving towards a fifteen year low against the yen.

The trend pushed Tokyo to intervene last month and devalue the yen, while some other countries have either followed its footsteps or are planning to.

Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the managing director of IMF told the Financial Times, "There is clearly the idea beginning to circulate that currencies can be used as a policy weapon". He further added, "Translated into action, such an idea would represent a very serious risk to the global recovery ... Any such approach would have a negative and very damaging longer-run impact".

The IMF, which will hold its twice-yearly summit this weekend in Washington, is also likely to talk about foreign exchange measures as part of its goal to get nations working towards balanced global development.
====================================================
I believe the solution is for us as a people, We The People, not the government whom some want to be our babysitter, to tell China, Up yours with your cheap shit and quit being a bunch of PC pussies about it.

Yeah the government allowed the US to get in the position of owing them a bunch of money but if they screw us up too bad, how are they going to get it back?

That "ownership" for debt goes both ways.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 09:44 AM

Once again Bobert ignores the facts presented in his own link. The dangers of devaluation. And he refers to economics classes as a reason to ignore the dangers he brought into the discussion.

He takes an elitist stance "you cannot under stand this, it is way over your head and us progressives know what is best for the masses"

As per his article: "A significant danger is that by increasing the price of imports and stimulating greater demand for domestic products, devaluation can aggravate inflation. If this happens, the government may have to raise interest rates to control inflation, but at the cost of slower economic growth."

Now if that ie wrong, Bobert, if that is not a danger, why did you cite that article???

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 09:20 AM

and conversely why the same morons embrace the Repubs & the Tea-Baggers who have been screwing them for years.

False class consciousness?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 08:31 PM

Yeah, Donuel, that is purdy much it except...

...that does not explain why so many undereducated people are prefectly willing to be whipped up into a lather to hate Dems and Obama when it's the Dems and Obama who have their best interests at heart???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 03:09 PM

Bobert, When I have given a econ 101 course or a 101 course on anything here, people complain that it is oversimplified.

Fundamentals however are essential...


The difference between conservative and progressive...

The COnservative believe that you are on your own. They believe that having the money from accomplishment or inheritence is the key to repondsibility for one's own needs and wants.

The PRogressives believe that we are all in this together. They believe that pooling our resources can afford to benefit the least of us with essential services that we can not afford or provide for ourselves.


If you are rich it is easy to side with conservatives since you can afford your own security force or even your own fire department. You might say "Why should I pay for some one else's needs?" They are either lazy or stupid. Tough as it may be Social Darwinism will weed out the defective people in our country by ignorance or starvation.


If you are not rich you would hope that there is a public land and a public good so that you can afford roads, services and essential needs. You would want less to be privatized. If everything is privatized, not only does a middle man take a huge slice of profit before the service is delivered but it always goes up in price.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 02:47 PM

As you can see it is a terror org.

http://usera.imagecave.com/donuel/don/TEAPARTYLAND1.jpg

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 08:56 AM

What you ***fail*** to realize, Sawz, is that a currency can be "revalued" after the "devaluation" has done what it is supposed to do... That is a major failing on yer part and shows hw little you understand "fixed rate" currencies as opposed to "floating currencies"...

Like I said... You need a college economics course so that your knowledge base will be large enough to see the entire picture...

Do you have any idea why the Feds have done this in the first place??? I do... Maybe you'd like to reread the entire link and try to figure out why this is a good thing for our economy... But then again, maybe you'd rather ignore the fact that we are competeing in a world economy and have to react to stuff that is negatively impacting our ability to compete (and create jobs)...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 11:00 PM

"Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 10:47 PM

You could benefit from some facts. Got any? I even tried to agree with you when I could but forget that, your knee-jerk reaction is to turn it into a argument every time.

YES BOBERT IT WOULD TAKE A BITE OUT OF OUR TRADE DEFICIT. I AGREE with you on that.

Is that all it would do? All I see is a link to somewhere. Did you read it? Is there any downside? Yabetcha:

Effects of Devaluation [from Bobert's 1999 link]
A significant danger is that by increasing the price of imports and stimulating greater demand for domestic products, devaluation can aggravate inflation. If this happens, the government may have to raise interest rates to control inflation, but at the cost of slower economic growth.

Another risk of devaluation is psychological. To the extent that devaluation is viewed as a sign of economic weakness, the creditworthiness of the nation may be jeopardized. Thus, devaluation may dampen investor confidence in the country's economy and hurt the country's ability to secure foreign investment.

Another possible consequence is a round of successive devaluations. For instance, trading partners may become concerned that a devaluation might negatively affect their own export industries. Neighboring countries might devalue their own currencies to offset the effects of their trading partner's devaluation. Such "beggar thy neighbor" policies tend to exacerbate economic difficulties by creating instability in broader financial markets.

Since the 1930s, various international organizations such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF) have been established to help nations coordinate their trade and foreign exchange policies and thereby avoid successive rounds of devaluation and retaliation. The 1976 revision of Article IV of the IMF charter encourages policymakers to avoid "manipulating exchange rates...to gain an unfair competitive advantage over other members." With this revision, the IMF also set forth each member nation's right to freely choose an exchange rate system.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Since the great depression the IMF has been advising against devaluation. Wonder why?

Is that what caused the Great Depression Bobert?

More here

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 07:58 PM

Both of you would benefit from a decent college Econ 201 course...

Perhaps rather tham just spew out Republican anti-obama, anti-government bullshit ya'll should check out:

http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/fedpoint/fed38.html

...and pay particular attention to the area on that report where it deals with the reasons from devaluation...

Now, I will asdmit that the first time devaluation was expalined to me in college I was thinking, "Huh?".... But I sat thru an hour long explanation and at the end of the hour I got it...

Of course, knowing the two of ya'll like I do ya'll prolly just default to "The Fed must go"... I fully expect that but the folks there know alot more about how currencies work than either of ya'llz... Or me, for that matter...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 03:21 PM

"Devaluing the dollar will make our goods and services cheaper [You are right about that part Bobert but only cheaper for foreingers paying with something other than dollars] and therefore take a bite out of our trade deficit" True but folks in the US will see higher prices cause it will take more of their dollars to buy the same stuff.

Like oil [gasoline]. oil is priced in dollars. The price of oil is an indicator of the value of the dollar. Same thing for gold.

If you were a farmer selling his wheat it would be worth more dollars because suddenly foreign people can buy it cheaper.

There is a whole industry called Forex where people like Boss Hogg Soros are buying and selling different currencies as they revalue and devalue. They can affect the values of the currencies and run a country's currency into the ground while they rake in billions.

average daily turnover in global foreign exchange markets is estimated at $3.98 trillion, as of April 2010

On Black Wednesday (September 16, 1992), Soros's fund sold short more than $10 billion worth of pounds sterling, profiting from the Bank of England's reluctance to either raise its interest rates to levels comparable to those of other European Exchange Rate Mechanism countries or to float its currency.

Finally, the Bank of England withdrew the currency from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism, devaluing the pound sterling, and Soros earned an estimated US$ 1.1 billion in the process. He was dubbed "the man who broke the Bank of England." In 1997, the UK Treasury estimated the cost of Black Wednesday at £3.4 billion.

The Times of Monday, October 26, 1992, quoted Soros as saying: "Our total position by Black Wednesday had to be worth almost $10 billion. We planned to sell more than that. In fact, when Norman Lamont said just before the devaluation that he would borrow nearly $15 billion to defend sterling, we were amused because that was about how much we wanted to sell."

Stanley Druckenmiller, who traded under Soros, originally saw the weakness in the pound. "Soros' contribution was pushing him to take a gigantic position."

In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, then Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad accused Soros of using the wealth under his control to punish ASEAN for welcoming Myanmar as a member. Soros has denied Mahathir's accusations. The nominal US dollar GDP of ASEAN fell by US$9.2 billion in 1997 and $218.2 billion (31.7%) in 1998.

What is needed to cure the trade deficit is to start making things in the US again and tell the Chinese, up yours.

But ya got people that would rather spend $20 for a Chinese drill than $50 for an American made one. They will talk about buying American made stuff and supporting the Unions but when nobody is lookin' they slip on down to the Harbor Freight tool store.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 09:50 PM

My Lord, how backward can a fella' get?....No Bobert, prices go UP, coupled with increase of those taxes you love, your buying power (man hour to compensation), just went down!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 08:13 PM

Devaluing the dollar will make our goods and services cheaper and therefore take a bite out of our trade deficit... I know for the Lyndon RaRouche, gold standard, flat-earthers her this is a shock but had the fed not done this it would have been irresponsible... Especially seein' ast the US is puttin' so much pressure on China to get outta the currency-propping game...

Good on the Fed!!! Positive step in the right direction... That is, if they actually did it... I donno fir sure they did... Been at the Getaway and just gettin' home this evening and, as per usual, too beat from stayin' up late playin' music to read the Sunday Post I picked up on the way home...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 01:19 PM

Oh, Sawzaw, don't be silly....the poor can always get food stamps...just ask any socialist!..or Bobert!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 12:49 PM

First off everything that is priced in dollars will go up 10% automatically.

But the value of your assets will be worth 10% less.

It will hurt the rich people the most. Instead of $10 million, they will have to scrape by on $9 million.

Poor people won't be hurt so much because instead of $10 thousand per year for example, they will still have $9 thousand to live off of.

Now that's what I call real wealth distribution.

Yayyyyyyy, the stimulus worked

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 12:02 PM

I suppose that after the elections, and everything comes crashing down, both sides will once again start blaming each other....instead of the real culprits!

It'll be interesting to see how they'll spin this one....in between the shit that will be flying. Folks, the agendas that I've been bitching about for about two years, on here, will have brought this nation down!
Like I said, and you probably thought I was only joking, better stock up on guitar strings!....Food as well....and learn to live like, well,..how about Albania?

Thank you, corrupted politicians! Thank you for the lies, thank you for not serving or representing the people. Thank you for your careers of taking us down, for your own profits. Thank you for sending all out work overseas. Thank you for your own secret economy. Thank you for not enforcing our borders, so your drug trade buddies could continue to send you pay-offs.....and of course, thank you for the 'Change'!

Good Question

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Slag
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 11:41 AM

Right on (ahem) Ggfs! What else can they do? I have posted elsewhere and years ago that the dates 1913. 1933. 1964 and 1982 will live in infamy. Only I'm not going to tell you why this time. You're going to have to figure it out yourselves.

OK, did your get it? When we left the precious metals standrd(s) we put ourselves in the same position as Argentina, Mexico, All third world countries and many others. The Government abdicated it's responsiblity to be the sole issuer and guardian of specie and exchange medium (but hey! When has the government been responsibile in the positive sense of the word? Huh?) and now they are monitizing the debt. That's national bankruptcy! Are ya feeling STIMULATED yet kiddies? This is change we can believe in, CHUMP CHANGE! And about half this nation desrves what's coming too. Take a look at that Parker Brothers certificate in your pocket. Baltic and Mediterranean Ave., here we come!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 Oct 10 - 11:17 PM

Today the 'Fed' announced that it was going to devalue the dollar, by 10%...and that we should immediately feel the effects.

Told you.
We've been printing fiat money.
Actually, I'm expecting a total collapse of the United States economy, within about six months...not just because of this, but a lot more.

I hope I'm wrong!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 02 Oct 10 - 11:04 AM

Bobert's double standard: ''Dead!'' he screamed. "That is a "figure of speech" that in no way meant to mean literally kill."

"he was very convincing that he was prepared to kill this reporter feller." But he never said kill or dead or death.

Spin away Bobert, run damage control for Obama's former #1 man but there still ain't nobody here convinced that the Tea Party is a terrorist organization.

Even you are too chicken to say that you believe it yourself. The true mark of a blowhard.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Oct 10 - 09:38 AM

Rahm's father was a member of the Irgun.

And that's relevent because?????? is he thus part of "The International Jewish Conspiracy"? or is he just"Acting Like A Jew"??

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 06:14 PM

"If you come near my daughter's house, I'll take you out" is what Mr. Foul-temper said, GfinS... Not too sure where yer from but in these parts that meahns "kill" you... You know "take you out" of thr game of life...

But seein' as you have become one of the Tea Party apologists here I'm sure you thought that Paladino was talkin' about "taking the reporter out to supper"... Or maybe fir some hand-dipped ice cream...

Come on, GfinS... Get yer head outta that bad place it's in... I mean, seems that your are becoming more like Sawz every day and he has serious mental problems...

(Oh, there ya' go, Boberdz... Now GfinS gonna say you got mental problems...)

Like who don't know that's what she's gonna say??? Who cares... My head is on straight... I don't feel like I gotta defend anyone strictly based on what party they belong to... Seems GfinS got blinders on here with the Tea Party folks...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stringsinger
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 04:58 PM

Rahm's father was a member of the Irgun.

Paladino is mad at reporters because he's an angry guy. There was no justification for
his response. He could have clammed up which he should have and left the reporter.
He likes to fight, that's obvious.

Pugnacious politicians seem to command respect from some Americans. Their responses
are unhelpful to solving social problems or promoting meaningful dialogue. If you are a Republican today, there usually is no meaningful dialogue to take place. ("Don't bother me with the facts.") ("Don't challenge my godly way of thinking.")

Pugnacious behavior is not the same as being assertive in a reasonable way. This is what Obama should be doing with the Pentagon (See Woodward's book).

The words "terrorist" and "communist" in the minds of reactionary people mean the same thing. Is the Tea Party a Communist Organization?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Slag
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 04:39 PM

Wow! Am I relieved to learn from Ertsbob that if terrorism and murder are your style, well then it passes lefty muster! Gee, guess I have been in the wrong party all along.

New strategy for the tea party. Cyanide capsules with the word "Democrat" printed on them. They will swallow anything with their label on it!

-Not a Terrorist Slag-
(It's just my style!)

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 04:14 PM

So GFS, what IS this compulsion of yours to prove you're a prat?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 02:35 PM

Greg F:Sorry, Sawz- that wonderful Emanuel anecdote of yours - if true - dates from 1992."

If its NOT true, does it still date back to 1992 ?????????

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 02:23 PM

Sorry, Sawz- that wonderful Emanuel anecdote of yours - if true - dates from 1992.

Whatcha got from the last 18 years?

Squat?

I thought so.

The Tea-liban, Palladino et. al. are here and now.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 01:51 PM

Bobert, you're making stuff up again...I saw the tape, repeatedly. He never threatened to kill anyone...now did he? What he said could have meant several things even legally, too. I'm not a Paladino fan, or not...but stick to the actual events...and I think that a father, of a child, SHOULD be willing and able to protect their children, and that reporters don't need to be involving the children of candidates, to either smear a candidate, or sell papers. Leave the kids, alone!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 01:44 PM

Yeah, eceryone knows Rahm's style... But it's just his style... I mean, lot's of folks go around sayin' stuff like, "If you eat that last slice of pir, I'll kill you"... That is a "figure of speech" that in no way meant to mean literally kill... Rahm, is a big ol' huffy puffy guy who brings that Chicgao style with him... I mean, his language is known to be "rough"... I really don't care for that kind of language myslef but when he says stuff, folks know how to take him...

I watched the New York guy last night and, given the circumstance, he was very convincing that he was prepared to kill this reporter feller... Now given the backdrop of the "reload" crap with the "2nd ammendment remedies" that the Tea Partyiers use routinely (not style) it does represent a serious problem with these people... Seems that the only qualification to win a primary as a Tea Bagger is to be seriouslly pissed off (at what ot whom, who knows sinnce they are always real vague) and be willing to threaten their opponents with shooting them...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 01:40 PM

Sawzaw, Are you sure you want to confuse them with actual FACTS???

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 01:31 PM

Suddenly [Rahm] Emanuel grabbed his steak knife and, as those who were there remember it, shouted out the name of another enemy, lifted the knife, then brought it down with full force into the table.

''Dead!'' he screamed.

The group immediately joined in the cathartic release: ''Nat Landow! Dead! Cliff Jackson! Dead! Bill Schaefer! Dead!''

Today, Rahm Emanuel is [was], at 37, one of the most powerful people at the White House.

Does Rham Emanuel belong to a terrorist organization?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 12:32 PM

Sawz & BB:

You're missing ( or simply ignoring? )a critical difference: Emanuel was joking & Paladino wasn't.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 11:15 AM

So, Bobert, YOUR claim that the Tea Party is terrorist is based on what? A SINGLE set of pictures of ONE person carrying a gun at one Tea Party event, out of HOW MANY attendees and HOW many events??

I thing the percentage of the Executive branch that has made threats against opponents is a bit higher than the percentage of Tea Party supporters.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 11:10 AM

"one single asshole who is, at the very best, barely associated with the left???
"


The leaving WH Cheif of staff for Obama is "at the very best, barely associated with the left??"


I think you need to look at what you just said- YOUR logic means that Obama is a terrorist, which even the Tea Party is not claiming.


I can bring one if you want- but I'd rather bring musical instruments.

I HAVE been told that my singing could be deadly, though.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 11:06 AM

Well Well Well. So far no one here believes the Tea Party is a terrorist organization.

Even Bobert won't come out and say it. He just plays cutesy little word games.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 10:41 AM

So, bruce... Given the repeated threats of violence by the Tea Party against those with whom they disagree, your entire defense is built around one single asshole who is, at the very best, barely associated with the left???

Is that yer final answer???

I mean, you ain't bringin' a gun to the Getaway, are you???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 10:02 AM

Paladino is and always has been throughout his long and somewhat dubious money-making career an asshole and an absolute moron.

It is astonishing that anyone in New York with even pretentions to intelligence would consider turning State government over to this idiot.

No less amazing is that the regular Republican Party would endorse him;
the "Grand Old Party" has become the Party Of The Brain Dead.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 09:40 AM

Bobert,

You mean like the White House (former) chief of staff and HIS comments about what he would do to those who did not go along with what Obama wanted???? I think that "take out" were the words he used...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 09:09 AM

Looks as is the Tea Party candidate for New York's governorship has threatened to "take out" a reporter who asked him to provide sources that hos Dem opponent is having an affair???

This is what I have been talkin' about here, folk... Threatening to kill p[eople who do no agree with you ain't what this country is about... It's what the Taliban does...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Slag
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 05:21 AM

Well Ggfs, if you dropped that first G or even the first and second g then I could PM you a little inside info. I know, you think it might sully your creds and maybe you can't afford the dues. Shucks, it only costs me $50 a month to be a member!

This probably signals the end of this troll trap but yup! I'm somewhere in Northern CA. I have two functioning guitars, one with wires one with nylon. I have a handful of harmonicas (which I love cause they're always in tune) and anything else I've attempted to play isn't worth mentioning. I noodle a lot and never play the same thing the same way twice. Some tunes I even recognize. I seem to have many talents but music isn't very high on the list. And it's odd too, because I have very musical forebearers and same so children.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 08:53 PM

Well Well Well, We have heard Blowhard** Bobert trying to terrorize us into thinkin the teaparty is a terrorist organization for months now.

Who has he convinced?

His buds keep telling him they are not a terrorist organization but he keeps up his rant. This is the way Bobert turns fiction into fact in his brain.

Who were believes that the Tea Party is a terrorist organization?


**1.         blow-hard
Someone who likes to shamelessly talk out of their ass.
Bill O'Reilly from Fox News is a blow-hard.
        
A person that is known to rant and rave about things. Their opinions are usually ignorant and lack evidence. The term comes from the literal meaning of "blowing hard". If you blow hard enough people pretty much have to listen.
Famous blow-hards include Glenn Beck and Dr. Phil.
        
Someone who boasts excessively and exaggeratively about his or her imagined talents or abilities. Also characteristic of someone who thinks they know something that others do not.

A very boastful and talkative person; a braggart 2. A self-important egomaniac who likes to toot his own horn.

Someone who speaks loud and long, offering an opinion YOU disagree with.

A person who takes great pleasure in boasting or bragging about themself.

"The professor's tendancy to always bring up his credentials in conversation gave him a reputation as an egotistical blowhard."

A very braggy and pretentious person, overly prideful and arrogant. See egotist.

Someone who talks a big game for the sole pleasure of instigating an argument without rational back-up to his/her point(s).
friend

A person that's insecure with their existence, and by their own virtue, they feel the need to blatantly spew ilk and diatribe about other people that are otherwise innocent.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 07:48 PM

Well, then... Looks like poor ol' Slag gonna have find some other folks to jam with...

Ahhhhh, I don't use no poisons on them stinky bugs, pdq... I been smackin' 'um with an old paint brush... Some take two smacks but most go out with one...

Nasty bugs... Looks as if they are gonna be a problem in the Virginia/Dc?mary land area for some time to come... Maybe forever seein' as nuthin, except a few bored cats, eat them...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 07:22 PM

Nope, Bobert, I'm not on the 'left coast'..I used to be though...a few years ago....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: pdq
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 07:15 PM

OK, I see it is a true bug, order Hemiptera.

Fire away! I hate 'em too. Use a "total release" aerosol bomb with pyrethrin or related organic pesticide. Inside a closed barn it will be prety effective. You can try to bum one from a professional exterminator if you can't find one for sale elsewhere.

I thought you might mean the "stink beetle" which is often called a "stink bug". The beetle, genus Eleodes, can live for years and they even have personality. I keep some for pets occasionally.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 06:38 PM

No, pdq... The mid-Atlantic states are infested with "Chinese Stink Bugs... Nasty things, too...

Google up "stink bugs" and see what I mean...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: pdq
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 06:23 PM

today 'cuase seems that ther are about couple thousand "stink bugs" hiding in everything they can in th barn...

Do you mean a true bug or a black beetle that sticks its hind end in the air?

Just curious.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 03:39 PM

He's out there on the left coast, GfinS... Ya'llz outta get together seein' as yout wo is the only 2 righties livin' on the left coast...

Kilt me another couple hunert stinky bugs... I been thinkin' that maybe I shouldn't kill them but box 'um all up and send 'um tos FOX-PAC... They open that box o' bugs up an' maybe take their minds (minds???) off the mythology and give 'um somethin' real to worry about...

5 inches of rain right now... My pond, which has all but dried up is full and spillin' over the spill way... Hate to see what the driveway looks like down below... Oh well, got a day on the tractor to fix it tomorroew before tomorrow nights gig and then off to the Getaway to conspire with Amos... Maybe play alot of music, too...

B~