Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 19 Jul 11 - 05:27 PM The Mainichi Daily News calls it an "updated work schedule." It does not add much to the previous announcement. "Cooling operations have been stabilized" and "the risk of hydrogen explosions has been eliminated." "We are starting to see a tremendous critical condition heading toward a certain level of settlement." Cold shutdown, scheduled for January, may be moved up so that people forced to evacuate can return home. "Workers have now succeeded in instaling devices to remove radioactive substances from the polluted water and recycle the decontaminated water to cool the crippled Nos. 1 to 3 reactors [at Fukushima]." At No. 4 unit, all of its fuel rods had been stored in the spent fuel pool, and "work is proceeding to create a system involving a heat exchange device to stably and efficiently cool the water inside the pool." Manichi Daily News comments that the decontamination system was operating only at 73% efficiency. "Tepco would consider creating an underground "shielding wall" to surround the reactor turbine buildings so as to prevent contaminated water seeping from the buildings and getting mixedin with groundwater." We hope that the goals are accomplished, but outside nuclear agencies are not entirely convinced. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: maeve Date: 19 Jul 11 - 05:31 PM Thanks, all, for the continued supply of information. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Jim Martin Date: 22 Jul 11 - 08:00 AM Hamaoka to have 18m sea-wall built: http://newsblogged.com/fukushima-nuclear-power-plant-reactor-latest-news-real-time-updates |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Donuel Date: 22 Jul 11 - 08:35 AM This is a report of the cavalier manner in which CNN covers the continuing Fukushima disaster. First they mention it less than twice a week on average. Second when they do have a report the way it is presented is unexcusable. The female talking head delivers a report of recalling some Beef products from Japan due to radiation, and then the reported said "stretch" and gesticulated a sleepy morning stretch and a decided bored behavior. What is said is nearly as crucial as how it is said. The cable news coverage of this immense disaster is treated like a puff piece. While radioactie debris and nuke plant waste water travels east 100 miles a day toward Hawaii and eventually the west coast of the USA, the inevitability of it all is deliberately treated with inattention and crass bordom. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 22 Jul 11 - 09:42 AM Jim- And when do you suppose the NRC will order an 18m sea-wall built at the two Californian coastal nuclear power plants? With increased global warming, waiting for Hell to freeze over is not an option. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 22 Jul 11 - 12:48 PM Don... I assume the big bucks don't want to panic people. Even tho the flow of seabourne and airbourne radioactive material is cause for at least a mild panic attack. I am washing my Washington grown cherries individually rather than just rinsing them in a bowl. Hmmmm... I wonder when the crude will wash ashore in Briton? or the wars BP has recently started will end? or.... sighhhh. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Mrrzy Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:49 AM Let's not forget this tragedy in the face of the next, more fashionable one in Europe. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 23 Jul 11 - 06:33 PM Mrrzy? |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 26 Jul 11 - 01:04 PM Here's an update from July 19 (NIRS) which provides a sobering summary of what's been achieved in terms of stabilizing conditions at the Fukushima-1 nuclear complex: Meanwhile, Tepco says it has achieved "stable cooling" of all of the reactors at the site. This might sound like good news until it is realized that Tepco does not mean the reactors are at cold shutdown. In fact, all 3 reactors with fuel in them remain above the boiling point of 100 degrees Centigrade, meaning that water continues to boil off and radiation continues to be released. Cold shutdown—bringing the temperatures below 100 degrees—is still not expected before January 2012. What Tepco really means is that it has more or less successfully set up a system for water to be recirculated through the reactors, so that constant water from outside is no longer needed. However, the recirculation system has been plagued with problems from the beginning and continues to not work at desired capacity. That is not the case for the Unit 4 fuel pool, which continues to receive water from outside. Temperature in the pool is said to be below boiling, at 80 degrees Centigrade. Have a nice day! Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 26 Jul 11 - 01:37 PM Have a nice day... I have other plans, thanks. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 26 Jul 11 - 01:45 PM India will soon join South Korea, France and other nations selling reactors. India currently has two models on offer. Congressional Research Service [U.S.] CSIS (Center for Stratigraphic & International Studies). Nuclear Power Corp. of India Chairman Bannerjee, "ready to offer Indian PHWRs of 220 MWe or 540 MWe for export." |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 26 Jul 11 - 04:10 PM Terrific! I wonder how much the service contract is? Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 26 Jul 11 - 04:47 PM India and South Korea are selling reactors? Good lord. Hey... buddy... I've got a good deal for you... Sweet JAYSUS! I wonder if Walmart will get in on this. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 26 Jul 11 - 05:45 PM Power companies generation figures called into question amid push for reactor restarts. Suggestions have arisen that power companies are underestimating their generating capacity in a push to restart reactors. An article in the Mainichi Daily News today (July 27) questions the low power generation figures put forth by the companies, especially the figures for electrical power, which some experts say is sufficient to cover the losses from closed reactors. http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110726p2a00m0na004000c.html ---------------------------------- South Korean industrial knowhow is as strong as that of any of the countries in the west. Don't know about India, but recent reports and analyses suggest that it will be an industrial giant before very long. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 31 Jul 11 - 05:45 AM 6.4 magnitude earthquake reported off the coast of Honsu/Fukushima at a depth of 40 km. No reports of new damage to the Fukushima reactors. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 31 Jul 11 - 09:43 AM Tsunami warnings were cancelled later in the day. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 31 Jul 11 - 12:55 PM Mainichi Daily News, July 31, 2011. "Nuclear plant workers developed cancer despite lower radiation exposure than legal limit." Of 10 nuclear plant workers who have developed cancer and received workers compensation, nine had been exposed to less than 100 millisieverts of radiation. During the emergency, the limit was raised to 250 millisieverts. Six had leukemia, two multiple myeloma and two lymphatic malignancy. The tenth had received 129.8 millisieverts. More disturbing was that monitoring databooks had been "corrected and stamped with personal seals." One book checked had a false report saying the worker was taking nuclear safety education when he actually was in hospital for leukemia treatment. This worker, dead of leukemia at age 29, was at the Hamaoka Power Plant, operated by Chibu Electric Power Co.; he received 50.63 millisieverts over a period of eight years and 10 months. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 31 Jul 11 - 02:34 PM Yes, Q. It's bad shit. The "safe" levels are not all that safe... merely "acceptable" as a management tool. And there's a lot more of it in our daily lives than yer average person knows about. Not just from nuke fuels. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 31 Jul 11 - 02:42 PM Yes, one of our good friends was a plant operator at the Maine Yankee nuclear power plant for about ten years. He quit after Three Mile Island but not before being exposed to low level radiation. He was not a smoker but he died of lung cancer a few years ago, and I still miss him. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Jack Campin Date: 31 Jul 11 - 06:42 PM From Peter Boulding in alt.fan.cecil-adams on Usenet: Time for an update, one would have thought... but it's getting more and more difficult to find out what the Hell's going on at Fukushima Daiichi. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 31 Jul 11 - 07:06 PM Charley... as I posted earlier, my old man told me smoking does not CAUSE cancer. Is is a catylist... a "medium"... it provides the "vehicle" for radiation to cause cancer. Something else... thread drift... the tobacco companies, government and medical community like to push this "smoking causes cancer" theory because it cannot be proven on an individual basis. Thereby, they continue to make money and tobacco will never be outlawed. If the anti-tobacco lot went after the emphysema (COPD is the new catch phrase as it sounds less scarey) connection they would get far better results. But, THAT ain't gonna happen because tobacco, government and the medical community make a shitload of money off the "cancer" aspect. Sorry for the thread drift. Just a pet peeve of mine. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,mg Date: 31 Jul 11 - 08:26 PM North Korea is on the verge of starvation again I have read. WOuld it be more dangerous to give them contanminated (slightly) beef and chickens and perhaps many would not starve..or let them starve but spare them radiation? I think I personally would want the food...they probably aren't allowed to pass it on but think if you were starving (and my family has not gotten over the potato famine yet) and saw the neighboring country killing their livestock. mg |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 02 Aug 11 - 10:32 AM A bit more on exposure: TEPCO has found a number of spots on the Fukushima site where radiation levels reach 10 Sievert per hour (which is the maximum reading on equipment used, levels may actually be higher). A level lethal even after a short exposure. Report |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Donuel Date: 02 Aug 11 - 05:12 PM The days are still a tenth of a second longer and the axis of the Earth shifted 10 inches due to the 9.0 earthquake that began this disaster. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 02 Aug 11 - 06:51 PM NASA Day shortened by 1.8 microseaonds (roughly one millionth of a second. Earth axis shifted 6.5 inches. Richard Gross of the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory said these changes happen all the time. Over the course of a year, day length changes about one millisecond, about 550 times the change caused by the Japanese quake. The position of the axis changes about 3.3 feet over the course of a year. USA Today, Science Fair, March 2011. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 02 Aug 11 - 07:08 PM Peter- There are very troublesome reports of "very hot spots" in and around the vents. Clearly, TEPCO is egregiously (if not criminally) slow in monitoring the impact of the initial explosions. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Donuel Date: 02 Aug 11 - 07:15 PM 6 INCHES IS BULL SHIT. IT WAS 10 INCHES, GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF. ;?I |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Jack Campin Date: 02 Aug 11 - 07:16 PM image of two of the hot spots Not a location I'd think to worry about - some way up a nondescript piece of external pipework or framing. But stand next to it for a few minutes and you're dead. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Jack Campin Date: 02 Aug 11 - 07:42 PM Two more items from alt.fan.cecil-adams. Peter Boulding: from TV Asahi via http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/radiation-in-japan-60-becquerelskg.html A chicken farmer in Kawamata-machi in Fukushima Prefecture has brought his eggs to a volunteer testing station in Fukushima City. After 20 minutes of testing, 60 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium is detected from the eggs. Disappointed, the farmer says, "I don't know what to say to my customers. It's much lower than the provisional safety limit in Japan, but if I compare the number to the safety limit in Ukraine it is extraordinary..." The reporter asks the farmer, "What is the safety limit in Ukraine?" 6 becquerels/kg, he tells the reporter." Les Albert: Here is one from Sunday's N.Y. Times that I thought you and the subscribers to your Weekly Reader will enjoy: http://tinyurl.com/3nafe8c The lead paragraph is: IWAKI, Japan ˜ Kiyoko Okoshi had a simple goal when she spent about $625 for a dosimeter: she missed her daughter and grandsons and wanted them to come home. Local officials kept telling her that their remote village was safe, even though it was less than 20 miles from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. But her daughter remained dubious, especially since no one from the government had taken radiation readings near their home. So starting in April, Mrs. Okoshi began using her dosimeter to check nearby forest roads and rice paddies. What she found was startling. Near one sewage ditch, the meter beeped wildly, and the screen read 67 microsieverts per hour, a potentially harmful level. Mrs. Okoshi and a cousin who lives nearby worked up the courage to confront elected officials, who did not respond, confirming their worry that the government was not doing its job. The rest of the story (with photos) is interesting. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 02 Aug 11 - 08:32 PM Here's the whole update from NIRS, August 1, which ordinarily I'd link to but it seems important enough to paste the whole damning thing: UPDATE, August 1, 2011. Tepco reported today the highest radiation levels yet measured at Fukushima Daiichi—1,000 Rems/hour (10 Sieverts/hour)—a lethal dose. The measurements were taken at the base of the ventilation stack for Units 1 and 2 (the stack that did not work during the accident). The actual levels may have been more than measured, since the monitoring equipment could not measure more than 10 Sieverts/hour. Workers sent to the area to confirm the measurements, which were first picked up by a gamma measuring camera, received doses of about 400 millirems in just a few minutes. All of this brings up a lot of questions Tepco and the Japanese government must be held to account for. It has been more than four months since the accident began. The belief is that these readings are a result of the failed attempt at ventilation in the early hours of the accident. How is it possible that Tepco is noticing this extraordinarily high reading only now? How many workers have walked by this area in the past four and a half months without realizing the kind of dose they were getting? What does this say about Tepco's, and the government's, overall radiation measurements both onsite and offsite? Indeed, even while Tepco last week said the continuing releases from Fukushima are only a fraction of what they were in April (one billion becquerels/hour versus one trillion becquerels/hour in April) and far lower than mid-March, Tepco also had to admit that it doesn't actually know how much radiation is being emitted. The utility said it planned to begin tests at Unit 1 over the past weekend to try to find out what is actually being emitted from there, and will begin similar tests at Unit 2 during August. But it doesn't even plan to try tests at Unit 3 because the radiation levels are so high in that reactor. Given Tepco's and the government's inability to detect lethal levels of radiation onsite—where there are presumably many radiation monitors available—what confidence can anyone have about offsite measurements in Japan? The role of citizen radiation monitoring has never been more crucial. The New York Times today has an article demonstrating this fact. It is the citizen monitors who are finding radioactive hotspots throughout north central Japan, who are demanding evacuations, who are documenting this contamination without end. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 02 Aug 11 - 09:57 PM Several articles in Japanese papers. "Safety Agency [NISA] slams Tepco for lax identity checks on nuclear plant workers." "Time to dismantle dangerous nuclear reactors, scrap nuclear fuel cycle program." The lead article in the Mainichi Daily News, August 2, 2011.- "We have proposed that an order of priority for shutting down nuclear plants be set based on their danger, and that the number of such power stations be gradually decreased." The article points out the unpredictability of disastrous accidents in earthquake prone Japan. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 03 Aug 11 - 10:07 AM The MOX plant at Sellafield, a hugely costly and controversial affair from the outset, is to close down as an after effect of the crisis in Japan. Tepco was to take 50% of the plant's fuel output. Report |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Aug 11 - 02:22 PM New reports 1. The government may separate the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency from the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry and merge its functions into a new agancy to be created under the Environment Ministry. [Musical chairs anyone?] 2. NISA Scandal widens to two more Utilities. A former official of the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency acknowledges that he askes two more power companies to mobilize their employees, in the latest revelations of alleged attempts to manipulate public opinion. Both from Japan Times, Wed., Aug. 3, 2011. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Aug 11 - 02:35 PM News Reports: 1. Metro Tokyo to build gas-fired power plant to combat energy shortage fears. The plant would be independent of TEPCO. 2. Residents in four prefectures have applied for a temporary court injunction against the restart of seven nuclear reactors in Fukui Prefecture, citing the Fukushima crisis as proof that national safety standards for nuclear plant design are faulty. The injunction application was filed by residents of Shiga, Kyoto, Osaka and Fukui Prefectures. The reactors, currently shut down for regular safety inspections, are operated by Kansai Electric Power Co. Mainichi Daily News, Aug. 3, 2011. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 03 Aug 11 - 02:47 PM Unreal stuff! VERY scarey. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Jack Campin Date: 10 Aug 11 - 04:18 PM More from Peter Boulding: I haven't even managed to learn whether they've finally installed their plastic, steel-framed tent around the remains of reactor building #1 (the only images on the web are computerised artists' impressions), although I did find a piece about ten days ago to the effect that TEPCO are starting work on one for reactor building #3... in a rush, because the typhoon season has begun. (What about reactor building #4?) The Mainichi Daily News now says erection of the cover for reactor building #1 will start today, and should be completed by the end of September. "Once the installation is completed at the reactor", they add, "Tokyo Electric will consider installing similar coverings for the Nos. 3 and 4 reactors." Other updates: * The Japanese government is lifting its non-mandatory evacuation advice regarding *some* areas outside the 20-kilometre limit. * The cooling water decontamination/recycling system is still suffering too much downtime, with pumps breaking down and backup pumps failing to start. The government regulator, itself under fire (see below), is attempting to get heavy with TEPCO about this. * Prime Minister Naoto Kan may step down by the end of this month--if he manages to get two bills passed through parliament. One concerns deficit-funding bonds needed to keep TEPCO and others afloat; the other mandates subsidies for renewable energy projects. It won't be that easy to get either passed, however: Kan's party relies fairly heavily on donations from power company labour unions, the opposition on donations from the said companies. * Japan has a sophisticated radiation forecasting system that correctly predicted the path of the radiation fallout from planned venting that took place early in the crisis. It now emerges that hundreds of evacuees--mostly children--were given "shelter" in an elementary school ten kilometres from Fukushima Daiichi that was according to the system, right in the path of that fallout. The mayor of the relevant town only learned of the cock-up from watching TV; a day later he organised buses to take these evacuees to another part of the town--which the system correctly predicted was also in the path of the fallout. Why? Because the Nuclear regulator sat on the system's predictions in order to avoid (a) costly evacuations and (b) embarrassing local and central government officials and power company executives. The Prime Minister appears to have been unaware of the system's existence. * Hearings have started regarding the scandal in which the regulator tried, over some years, to shift public opinion in favour of nuclear power by salting public symposiums with power company employees. * TEPCO have reported a 7.4 billion USD loss for the quarter April-June. German gas and electricity supplier E.ON has posted a 2.13 billion USD loss for the quarter and is cutting 11,000 jobs because of the German government's Fukushima-related decision to shut down nuclear plants early. * Falling beef prices cause by the discovery of contaminated meat has caused Japanese beef giant Agura Bokujo to go bust with debts of 62 billion yen. * No inshore fishing can be done in Fukushima prefecture. Half of the samples of fish checked by Greenpeace exceeded the Japanese government-set limit of 500 becquerels per kilogram. * How the nuclear industry is reacting to the public's increasing distrust of the people who make their living from--or plan to make billions out of--nuclear power: here's the mad-eyed John Hutton (ennobled by Tony Blair, and now a UK nuclear industry mouthpiece) explaining how we've got no choice: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/hardtalk/9559767.stm. The relevant BBC News 24 slot is called "Hard Talk". This clip gives you a fair example of just how probing and fearless BBC interviewers are likely to be these days... * Here, for contrast, is the *totally* impartial Russia Today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwMISWTy9U * And last but not least: Fukushima is killing American babies, says Fox News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3oMEqU1oAY |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 10 Aug 11 - 07:05 PM But, surely it's more important to fight the Taliban and throw cuise missles arond the middle East like nerf balls at a child's birthday party on behalf of BP? |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Aug 11 - 10:56 PM Jack- Thanks for your latest harvest. The Fox News link is a curious one. They certainly aren't against nuclear power but I guess they just couldn't resist another way to "terrorize" the American public. Keep them barefoot and terrorized; that's the deal! Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 11 Aug 11 - 09:46 PM The Mainichi Daily News has an article about the water treatment system. TEPCO seems to be happy that the "operating rate of a radioactive water treatment system at Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant stood at "a record 77.4 percent between Aug. 3 and 9" after the system became operational on June 28. But a TEPCO deputy chief said "ther will be a slight delay in achieving the utility's objective of treating radioactive water through the circulating injection cooling system within this year due to a series of mishaps." Lighting and malfunctioning pumps temporarily stalled treatment operations, bring the amount of contaminated water to 121,140 cubic meters as of Aug. 9, down by only 2740 cubic meters from July 12. "TEPCO says it plans to gradually increase the system's operating rate to 80 to 90 percent. All of which means a tremendous volume of water remains to be treated. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 11 Aug 11 - 10:05 PM This may have been reported before, since it was reported Monday by the Mainichi Daily News. "Fuel inside one of the reactors at the Fukushima complex may have melted twice. "......possibly breached the vessel after melting again at the bottom of the vessel,.... Most of the fuel at the No. 3 reactor may have fallen into the containment vessel underneath and if so, the current method used to cool the reactor would need reviewing,...." This would further delay the schedule to contain the disaster. Tanabe, a nuclear expert, said "I presume that the fuel fell to the bottom of the containment vessel made of concrete and reacted violently with its cement, releasing large amounts of radioactive materials into the outside from the pressure vessel." "Elevated levels of radiation were actually detected for several days from March 21 in the Tohoku region in which the Daiichi power plant is located and the nearby Kanto region, which includes Tokyo and its surrounding area." |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 12 Aug 11 - 07:47 AM Though few members of the public are aware of it, at Three Mile Island the melted fuel rods breached the primary containment vessel, took one horrified look around, and then melted their way back inside. But that report didn't surface until 5 years after the "incident." We have a lot more "lessons to learn" about Fukushima-1, and it will take years to learn what they are. Meanwhile, the nuclear industry has a new and safer model to sell you, and there might even be some truth to their statement. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 18 Aug 11 - 07:45 PM Here's the most comprehensive report (via Al Jazeera) I've run across from Japanese sources, and one of the grimmest: Click here for report! Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 18 Aug 11 - 08:05 PM And it doesn't even make the news here. I wonder why? It's all about the riots in England. As it was, still is, in their "mid-eastern" colonies... sad shit. And I mean that. Anybody that doesn't think Japan is not a distant "colony" of Her Majesty is just not a student of history. BP reaches far and wide. They reach out and touch many people. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 18 Aug 11 - 08:34 PM On a positive note, it seems like major groups of Japanese researchers are now attempting to fill in the blanks of TEPCO and the governmental agencies which are supposed to monitor or regulate the nuclear industry. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 19 Aug 11 - 07:57 AM Just some snippets: Fukushima was again shaken yesterday, by a 6.8 quake. Japanese government has for the first time since the tsunami given permission to re-start a nuclear reactor, reactor nr. 3 at the Tomari installation owned by the Hokkaido Power Company. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 19 Aug 11 - 01:57 PM UJapan, despite its nuclear industry, is still heavily dependent on oil imports; the country is only 16% energy efficient. 46% of energy comes from oil, 21% from coal. 80% of oil comes from the Middle East, with a large number of importers-suppliers, including Mitsubichi. http://www/eia.gov/cabs/Japan/pdf.pdf |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST Date: 20 Aug 11 - 04:21 AM Fukushima : an interactive guide |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 20 Aug 11 - 05:06 AM That was me. |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 20 Aug 11 - 09:15 AM Peter- Thanks to the link to the new set of photos, and their notes. Working at Fukushima certainly rivals working in Hell, and without the long-term benefits. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Aug 11 - 03:29 PM The Tennessee Valley Authority has approved plans to complete a 44.9 billion plan to complete a nuclear unit at the Bellefonte site [northeast Alabama] in Alabama. The plant, 55% complete, is expected to go online in 2020. Wall Street Journal, August 18, 2011, "TVA Approves Plan to Finish Alabama Nuclear Plant. |