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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 19 Mar 12 - 05:24 PM Peter Ladkin's paper is well worth reading. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Jim Martin Date: 29 Mar 12 - 06:41 AM Damage to reactor 2 much worse than previously thought: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17533398 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 29 Mar 12 - 08:01 AM The Guardian had this article yesterday. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 29 Mar 12 - 08:26 AM Certainly very grim news. This nuclear disaster is clearly worse than Chernobyl in terms of the amount of nuclear fuel melted down. And it seems as if the decommissioning of these three reactors, plus Unit 4 (which no one seems willing to address), will take decades to accomplish. And some folks called us "alarmists" at the beginning of this thread. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 29 Mar 12 - 03:30 PM Troubling news. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 04 Apr 12 - 04:20 PM I have posted about my father working in Ground Nuclear defense in the RCAF. Also posted about him working in the Ontario cobalt fields and being at nuclear tests in the US. There are others. Visited my uncle on the weekend. Did not know... he was one of 50 RCAF sent in to clean up the Chalk River "incident" in 1952. Wiki... "the 1952 NRX-incident Chalk River was also the site of two nuclear accidents in the 1950s. The first incident occurred in 1952, when there was a power surge and partial loss of coolant in the NRX reactor which resulted in significant damage to the core. The control-rods could not be lowered into the core, because of mechanical problems and human errors. Three rods did not reach their destination, and were taken out again by accident. The fuel-rods were overheated, resulting in a meltdown. The reactor and the reactor-building were seriously damaged by hydrogen-explosions. The seal of the reactor-vessel was blown up four feet. In the cellar of the building some 4.500 tons of radioactive water was found. This water was dumped in ditches around 1600 meters from the border of the Ottawa River. During this accident some 10.000 curie or 370 TBq was released.[3" After years of a group of vets fighting the Canuck government, three months after he died, a pension for his premature death was issued, along with a letter saying there was no connection and the pension was a "compassionate" pension. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 05 Apr 12 - 08:05 AM gnu- I seem to remember that a young Jimmy Carter was involved in heroic efforts to deal with one of the evolving Chalk River nuclear accidents. It is sad when authorities conspire to deny the tie between low-level radiation exposure and cancer. It's always hard to prove. But family and friends have to live with the bitter result. One of our best friends who worked for years as an auxiliary operator at the Maine Yankee nuclear plant, died years later of lung cancer. He was a non-smoker and later quit his job at the plant because of what he perceived as lax operating procedures. We still miss him. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 18 Apr 12 - 03:36 PM Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:42am EDT By Yoko Kubota TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan will within weeks have no nuclear power for the first time in more than 40 years, after the trade minister said two reactors idled after the Fukushima disaster would not be back online before the last one currently operating is shut down. Trade Minister Yukio Edano signaled it would take at least several weeks before the government, keen to avoid a power crunch, can give a final go-ahead to restarts, meaning Japan is set on May 6 to mark its first nuclear power-free day since 1970. "If we thoroughly go through the procedure, it would be (on or) after May 6 even if we could restart them," Edano told a news conference, adding that whether they can actually be brought back online is still up to ongoing discussions. The crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, where a huge earthquake and tsunami in March 2011 triggered radiation leaks, has hammered public faith in nuclear power and prevented the restart of reactors shut down for regular maintenance checks, with all but one of 54 reactors now offline. Nuclear power accounted for about 30 percent of Japan's electricity demand before the Fukushima crisis. In discussing restarts of the No.3 and No.4 reactors at Kansai Electric's Ohi nuclear power plant, in western Japan, the first to clear the government's technical review on resilience against a severe event, Tokyo has said it wants local backing even though it is not legally required. The hosts of the Ohi plant - the governor of Fukui prefecture and mayor of Ohi town, some 360 km (225 miles) southwest of Tokyo - told Edano on Saturday that some conditions should be met before they can make a decision. These included a safety review by an expert panel formed by the prefecture and backing from areas neighboring Fukui that are becoming increasingly vocal about possible radiation damage in the event of an accident at any of the 13 reactors in Fukui. Exactly when Fukui Governor Issei Nishikawa and Ohi Mayor Shinobu Tokioka will make decisions is unclear. Members of the expert panel will be visiting the Ohi plant on Wednesday and are likely to meet several more times before they reach a conclusion, while the Fukui assembly may meet as early as next week to discuss whether they can back the restarts, Masao Sato, a member of the assembly, told Reuters. Ohi town told Reuters in March that it conditionally backed the restart. Fukui governor Nishikawa told Edano on Saturday that, while the government has addressed some of Fukui's concerns, more discussions were needed on safety. While a looming summertime power crunch is a headache throughout Japan, Kansai Electric's service region, including Japan's second biggest metropolitan area of Osaka, is particularly vulnerable as nuclear power met more than 40 percent of power needs prior to the Fukushima crisis. Electricity generated by the Ohi No.3 and 4 reactors accounted for around 1.8 percent of the total amount of electricity generated in Japan in the business year 2009/10, data from the trade ministry and the Federation of Electric Power Companies in Japan showed. Edano said that the government may have to protectively come up with plans for rolling blackouts. "We absolutely cannot let power go out suddenly," he said. The governors of Shiga and Kyoto prefectures, bordering Fukui, on Tuesday outlined recommendations for the central government on restarting reactors, including publicizing views from independent organizations on reactor safety. The last time Japan saw a nuclear power-free period was the five days ended on May 4, 1970, when the two reactors then existing were both shut for maintenance, according to the Federation of Electric Power Companies of Japan. (Additional reporting by Yoshiyuki Osada in Kyoto; Editing by Alex Richardson) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 18 Apr 12 - 09:19 PM gnu- At least Japan is taking the threat of continued reliance on nuclear power seriously. Wish I could say the same about recent decisions by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, as they extend the operating licenses of aging nuclear plants in the States; Vermont Yankee is the one I follow most closely and the State Governor and the Legislature are opposed to an extension but the NRC is steaming ahead. Charley Noblew |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 16 May 12 - 06:20 PM We all knew that was coming eventually. All them there rich folk can't lose THEIR money eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 17 May 12 - 08:49 AM gnu- There aren't a lot of other choices to make in terms of managing this disaster. Someone has to clean it up and TEPCO as a privately run industry certainly can't attract new investment capital at this point to do the job. Unfortunately for the company, their assumptions about what they needed to do to safeguard their investment at this nuclear complex proved woefully unrealistic. The same is true for many other nuclear power plants around the world. I doubt if the private investors will ever get back their money in this case. That doesn't necessarily follow from what I read in the report. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 28 May 12 - 03:00 PM http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20120528_27.html Former PM calls for Japan to end nuclear power Former Japanese prime minister Naoto Kan says the nuclear accident at Fukushima convinced him that, for safety's sake, Japan must end its dependence on nuclear energy. Kan on Monday attended a hearing of a panel appointed by the Diet to investigate the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant that began on March 11th of last year. He blamed the government for promoting nuclear power as a national policy. He apologized for failing to prevent the accident as the head of government at the time. Kan said a nuclear safety agency said nothing about what would happen in such an accident, nor did the government receive information from other sources. He added that he feared the situation could get out of control. Kan acknowledged that the plant operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company, consulted the government about evacuating plant workers. He said that when the industry minister informed him of the workers' possible withdrawal, he thought it was out of the question. Kan said that he told Tokyo Electric President Masataka Shimizu that the government would not allow the workers to leave, and Shimizu complied. The former prime minister criticized what he calls an inner circle of nuclear policymakers, experts and businesses for trying to hold on to their power without doing any soul-searching after the accident. He said disbanding the circle is the first step in a comprehensive reform of nuclear policy. He also said the accident could have jeopardized state functions, and that he is convinced that the safest way forward for Japan is to end its nuclear power generation. The panel plans to compile a report on its investigation by next month at the earliest, and submit it to the heads of both chambers of the Diet. May 28, 2012 - Updated 10:23 UTC (19:23 JST) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 28 May 12 - 04:02 PM Kan is a brave man to come to this conclusion and make an effort to bring about a radical shift in Japan's nuclear power policy. He speaks from experience and with the support of the public, he just might achieve that goal. I'm surprised but delighted. Nuclear power plants always have some risk of disaster but being sited in an active earthquake/tsunami zone is clearly unacceptable. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 28 May 12 - 07:25 PM Charley... LePreau just had it's second spill of heavy shit in 6 months during tests. Goes back online in September. I am 90 miles away... you? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 28 May 12 - 07:32 PM Oops! Make that the third. And the biggest, I think. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: bobad Date: 29 May 12 - 06:28 AM Radioactive bluefin tuna from Japan found in U.S. waters For the first time, scientists have discovered that tuna contaminated by last year's radiation leak from the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant have crossed the Pacific Ocean into U.S. waters, according to the Associated Press. Scientists have been startled to discover the radioactive fish some 6,000 miles from their place of origin, the first time that large, migrating fish have been shown to carry contaminants over such a great distance. Normally, radiation and other contaminants are found in smaller fish and plankton, and only in waters close to the source of contamination. However, levels of radioactive cesium have been found at ten times the normal levels in fish off of the coast of California. The current levels, say officials, are still below the levels considered unsafe by the U.S. and Japanese governments. In March of 2011, a massive earthquake and devastating tsunami struck northeastern Japan, killing thousands and reducing entire towns to mud and rubble. The Fukushima nuclear plant was caught unprepared for the disaster, and subsequently multiple reactors at the plant melted down, spewing radioactive materials into the air and water and triggering mass evacuations. Bluefin tuna are large, fast-swimming fish, growing up to ten feet in length and weighing up to half a ton. The fish swim at "breakneck" speeds and cross the oceans to feed and mate. Scientists tested tuna from other regions to discover if the cesium-134 and cesium-137 found in the fish might have come from somewhere else, or if the fish had ingested plankton from water affected by the radiation leak. Ken Woeller of the Woods Hole National Oceanographic Institute is an outside researcher who was consulted by the investigation. He said the results "are unequivocal. Fukushima was the source." The Raw Story |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 29 May 12 - 08:41 AM bobad- The report of radioactively contaminated bluefin tuna off California should have been anticipated, given their diet and their migration pattern. I suppose on the bright side, scientists will be able to map the migration patterns of their favorite fish more accurately because of this nuclear disaster. gnu- No, I'd rather not hear more bad news about the nuclear complex at Point Le Preau, New Brunswick. As I recall, these CAN-DU plants are designed to be refueled without even shutting them down. It's no wonder they cough up some radioactive gunk or gas every once in a while. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Donuel Date: 29 May 12 - 10:04 AM This year I am replacing all the water in the big pool. Swimming in two years worth of rain and resevoir water is not wise when radioactive particles have been found here in car air filters and local milk, tied directly to Japan. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 29 May 12 - 11:44 AM Welcome back, Donuel! Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 29 May 12 - 02:28 PM Former Japanese PM Naoto Kan called for end to nuclear power in Japan. He said the Fukushima accident had pushed Japan to the brink of "national collapse." He warned that the politically powerful nuclear industry was trying to push Japan back toward nuclear power despite "showing no remorse" for the accident. Mr. Kan said the accident had brought Japan to the brink of evacuating metropolitan Tokyo and its 30 million residents, and that the loss of the capital would have paralyzed the national government, leading to "a collapse of the nation's ability to function." NY Times, "Japan's Former Leader Condemns Nuclear Power," Martin Fackler, Published May 28, 2012. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 30 May 12 - 07:39 AM "I suppose on the bright side, scientists will be able to map the migration patterns of their favorite fish more accurately because of this nuclear disaster." Well, today I heard on NPR scientists gushing over their good fortune in now having a better way to track fish migration, all thanks to the Fukushima nuclear disaster. Q- Thanks for the additional reference to "Former Japanese PM Naoto Kan called for end to nuclear power in Japan." This is not an experience that will be forgotten soon in Japan, unlike here in the States or Canada. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 30 May 12 - 07:48 AM Oh, and there's a cherry report from Southern California. Evidently the San Onofre nuclear power plant operating in an earthquake/Tsunami zone has been operating with defective safety backup equipment since 1981. Equipment used for decades at California's troubled San Onofre nuclear power plant might have temporarily severed the plant's emergency power supply during an earthquake. Operator Southern California Edison said Tuesday it's disabled the equipment and is investigating. The company reported the issue to federal regulators as "an unanalyzed condition that significantly degraded plant safety." Edison says other backup systems were in place. At issue are vibration sensors in use since 1981 on emergency diesel generators. The generators start if the plant loses its outside power supply — a possibility during an earthquake. But engineers at the idled plant between Los Angeles and San Diego found the sensors might incorrectly shut down the generators during an earthquake. The plant needs power to control heat in the twin reactors. Have a nice day! Charley "Sunshine" Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Desert Dancer Date: 30 May 12 - 07:45 PM On the tuna (NPR): Yes, radiation in seafood seems scary. But here's the catch (if you pardon the expression). Tuna, like every other food on the planet, already contains naturally occurring radiation. It has potassium-40 and polonium-210. It always has and it always will. In addition, seafood in general contains a trace of cesium-137 left over from nuclear weapons testing in the 1950s and 1960s. and from Nature on direct effects of Fukushima radiation on people: The large population involved could mean that the eventual number of radiation-induced cancers among the public will actually be higher than among workers, even though the risk to each individual civilian is tiny, says David Brenner, a radiologist at Columbia University in New York city. But he doubts a direct link will ever be definitively made. Under normal circumstances, "40% of everybody will get cancer", he says. "It doesn't seem to me that it's possible to do an epidemiological study that will see an increased risk." Still, it may be valuable to conduct studies to reassure the population that they are not being misled, he adds. ~ Becky in Tucson |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 30 May 12 - 10:53 PM The amount of radioactive cesium measured in these bluefin tuna does appear quite "trivial" for now but that's not to say other fish, especially the carnivores, may accumulate greater concentrations. The safe thing would be to do systematic testing before more highly radioactive fish make their way to the market. Unfortunately by the time scientists document the impact of the Fukushima disaster on the surrounding population it will be too late to do much to help the people affected. Some cancers take decades to develop. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,mg Date: 30 May 12 - 11:52 PM Remember the idiot people at some official fisheries in US refusing to test fish right away for a baseline? Oh it just was not necessary. We are awaiting the tsunami debris where I live..probably radioactive salmon too. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 31 May 12 - 07:56 AM I'm reminded about the spike in childhood leukemias that was observed around the Maine Yankee nuclear plant, within its evacuation zone. We had a devil of a time getting the state health agency to collect the information and then release it for our analysis. And once the maps were produced showing an increase in the prevailing wind zones of the plant over several decades, we still couldn't get "real scientists" to initiate more systematic research. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Jack Campin Date: 10 Jul 12 - 01:46 PM The BBC on an official report on just how badly TEPCO screwed up: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18751374 The report itself (still downloading for me, seems a slow server): http://naiic.go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/NAIIC_report_lo_res.pdf |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Jack Campin Date: 10 Jul 12 - 03:20 PM Okay, got the report now. VERY interesting reading. They have uncovered a lot of fuckups the media hasn't covered at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 10 Jul 12 - 03:46 PM There's only so much time in a day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Jul 12 - 05:46 PM Thanks, Jack. I suppose I have to do my homework now and try to summarize this. But not today! Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 19 Jul 12 - 08:38 AM The good news is that TEPCO is beginning the process of shifting the highly radioactive used fuel rods from the spent fuel pool at the No. 4 reactor to one of its large centralized spent fuel pools. They've shifted two rods so far with another 1400 or so to go. At this rate they'll complete the job in two to three years. The bad news is the walls of the damaged reactor building are now bulging and if the building collapsed the spent fuel pool would be breached as well, and there would be a catastrophic meltdown of the remaining used fuel rods, with no containment. It always struck nuclear power critics as dangerous to have large spent fuel pools designed above the reactor vessels in these buildings. True, it made shifting fuel rods out of the reactor very convenient but they were still very dangerous and required long term cooling. It would have been safer to have shifted them off-site to a centralized facility after a relatively short period of cooling. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Jack Campin Date: 21 Jul 12 - 07:15 AM TEPCO told workers at Fukushima to disable their dosimeters with lead foil: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18936831 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 21 Jul 12 - 11:24 AM Jack- Thanks for the update: Between November and March this year, a group of Build-Up employees were working at Fukushima, trying to restore facilities. In December, a Build-Up executive told them to cover their dosimeters with lead casings when working in areas with high radiation. Otherwise, he warned, they would quickly reach the legal limit of 50 millisieverts' exposure in a year, and they would have to stop working. Hope they get sued and put in jail big time. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 21 Jul 12 - 11:54 AM Where's Harry Kerry when ya need him? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: SINSULL Date: 22 Jul 12 - 11:28 AM Wonder where that executive was at the time and did his badge have a foil cover? What else did they lie about? Guess we have to wait 40 years to find out like Chernobyl and Three Mile Island we will wait for the truth. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 22 Jul 12 - 11:35 AM My old man and his mates did it at the cleanup of the disaster in Chalk River and also in the course of daily duties dealing with cobalt. All have/had extensive cancer(s). No doubt it occurred elsewhere, USA too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 22 Jul 12 - 07:57 PM Sad but true. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 22 Jul 12 - 09:22 PM And... when they told the lads to shield their eyes with their hands at the test blasts. They could see the bones in their hands. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 23 Jul 12 - 10:00 AM 'New report on Fukushima casts doubt on other nuclear facilities' preparedness for complex catastrophe' Article |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 23 Jul 12 - 01:28 PM The major conclusion of the article is that Fukashima lack of preparation for a complex catastrophe with multiple nuclear plants on site is not unique. The same critique is sadly true of many nuclear complexes in the States as well as those in other parts of the world. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Date: 07 Aug 12 - 01:29 PM TEPCO releases recordings of Fukushima nuclear crisis 'Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco), owner of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant, has released footage of how it managed meltdowns in three reactors.' |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 08 Aug 12 - 09:45 AM "Tepco has bowed to pressure to release 150 hours of teleconferencing footage but the tape was heavily edited and mostly muted to "protect employees' privacy". So you could see the back of former PM Naoto Kan, who appeared angry in the tape, but you could not hear him as only one third of the released footage was audible. The other parts showed workers' frustration with Mr Kan as well as the then plant manager of the Fukushima Daiichi power plant, Masao Yoshida, asking his management to stop asking him so many questions and not to disturb him." Always interesting to gain a little more knowledge of what went on, and, of course, more questions arise. The nuclear industry, however, marches on, hoping that the public will soon forget this unseemly event. I've been attending a national meeting of state legislators this week in Chicago, my wife is a legislative staff person, and I was not surprised at the "fact sheet" I found at a booth of the Nuclear Energy Institute; it was dated 2010 and there was no mention of Fukushima. There was also not a clue how many thousands of years "spent fuel" was dangerous to humans and other living things. And they still identified Yucca Mountain as the national repository for high level nuclear waste, funding has been withdrawn and it is no longer considered a viable storage option. Charley Noble, adrift in Chicago |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 13 Oct 12 - 08:42 PM I suppose I could have posted this update months ago but TEPCO just released its statement today, admitting that they knew that additional measures needed to be taken to safeguard their nuclear plant complex from tsunamis: Click here for report "It was possible to take action in regard of tsunami defense based on the company's earlier tsunami evaluations and it was also possible to diversify safety systems by referencing severe accident measures taken in other countries, the draft also said." If those measures had been taken the entire disaster might have been avoided. The plant managers worried that if more measures were taken, the public would conclude that nuclear power was unsafe. Shit! Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: gnu Date: 13 Oct 12 - 08:49 PM That is disconcerting. BUT... "managers" don't lose their jobs and entire careers when they fuck up BAD. So, they did what they needed to do. Humans are gonna fuck up the works. Just a matter of time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 14 Oct 12 - 11:00 AM Of course this story has long lost public attention, except for people in Japan. The direct consequences of this disaster will adversely impact generations of Japanese. But for the nuclear industry it is merely an annoying blip on their otherwise impeccable business plan. In five years, if not sooner, they will be "re-educating" the public through a multi-million dollar ad campaign that nuclear energy is the clean and safe alternative to fossil fuels. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Jim Martin Date: 15 Oct 12 - 05:59 AM Washington's Blog reports ring seals washing up possibly contaminated: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/09/fukushima-radiation-japan-irradiates-the-west-coast-of-north-america.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 15 Oct 12 - 08:06 AM Jim- Thanks for posting the above link to this alarming report of radiation poisoning off the Alaskan coast. The higher than normal deaths of seals and other sea life may well be related to the initial radioactive aerial plume that spread out through the area last March. The effects of low level radiation contamination are fiercely debated within the scientific community. The continuing impact of the Fukushima nuclear meltdown will certainly be a case study in this debate for years to come. In addition to the radioactive plume in the air, there is the radioactive debris in the ocean described in the above report. Some of the items washing ashore may have been exposed to high levels of radiation, during the explosions and fires at the 4 reactor units in the nuclear complex. If so, they could be a threat to living creatures and plants for thousands of years. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,mg Date: 15 Oct 12 - 02:19 PM It will wash up to my front door ... Here is a song...based on a phrase they requested.."fishing is in our blood." There is a you tube video of a man who did exactly what the song says..jumped into his boat to save his island from being cut off from resources..before I could put a tune to it it jumped onto the Boys ofKillibegs... TSUNAMI SONG Fishing's in our blood but now our boats are filled with mud And our docks are smashed and scattered far and wide And our nets and floats and gear are taken far from here And they drift upon the ocean and the tide Island folk are we who make our living from the sea But we know too well the shaking of the ground I jumped into my boat though fear was in my throat And I passed by many men I knew would drown For the island to be saved I had to head into that wave I just did what any fisherman would do 30 meters high and it blotted out the sky And I had to just hold on and plough on through You across the seas who gather our debris Do you hear our cries above the ocean's roar And as our ships wash in do you think of all those men Who will have fishing in their blood forevermore |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: GUEST,999 Date: 15 Oct 12 - 05:33 PM Good song, MG. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Japan Nuclear plant disaster, 2011 From: Charley Noble Date: 15 Oct 12 - 06:00 PM Thanks, MG. Looking forward to hearing you featured at next year's Mystic Sea Music Festival. Charley Noble |
