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Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare

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Jim Carroll 09 Aug 12 - 08:19 AM
GUEST,999 09 Aug 12 - 09:54 AM
Jim Carroll 09 Aug 12 - 10:50 AM
Steve Gardham 09 Aug 12 - 04:46 PM
Steve Gardham 09 Aug 12 - 06:37 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 09 Aug 12 - 07:26 PM
Jim Dixon 10 Aug 12 - 02:06 AM
Jim Carroll 10 Aug 12 - 02:51 AM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 10 Aug 12 - 06:01 AM
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Subject: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 08:19 AM

Query from a neighbour.
Does anybody know or know of an Irish song entitled 'O'Hare' which begins "You gents of Dublin City I'll have you to take care" and contains the line "there's not a thing that's happening ... O'Hare"
I suspect it's a music hall/stage song, probably bawdy.
Thanks in anticipation.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: GUEST,999
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 09:54 AM

Jim, I looked around Google and YouTube for a half hour and came up empty. If your neighbour recalls any other lines please post them, svp. Most googles of o'hare and dublin city together bring up air travel and even searching with pieces of the song in quotations gives nowt.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 10:50 AM

999
Thanks for that - always amazed at the willingness of forum members to help.
I've looked in at the Irish Traditional Music archive, so far with no luck, but will spend more time with it later.
Our neighbour has a couple of verses, totally unfamiliar, but it's galvanised us into setting up a long planned recording session with him.
He (Vincie Boyle) has already provided us with some songs for our CD of Clare singers, 'Around The Hills of Clare' and we know he has plenty more we have yet to record.
Thanks again,
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 04:46 PM

Jim,
I presume you've tried the Bodl. It has first line index. Try 'Ye gents' as well.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 06:37 PM

Another post gone astray.

So this is what I just thought I posted.

My indexes tell me the only O'Hare I have got songs about is Roger, the rake who hailed from Dublin. But the first line doesn't match any of the songs about him. I've got.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 07:26 PM

I've looked at BL, LOC, Bodl, Levy, EBBS, archive.org (and google of course) without success. Also tried variants of gents/lads/boys/men.

Roud returns mainly Roger O'Hare as Steve says.

The problem with the first line is that it's open to lots of variants. Ye/You, gents/lads... Dublin/other city.

We may have to wait for more of the song!

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 02:06 AM

The Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads, on Harding B 40(7), has a song called A NEW SONG ON OLD HARE which begins "You gents of Dublin city have you heard the newest out …"

Unfortunately, the link to the actual broadside image is broken. Here it is anyway, in case the link gets fixed:

http://bodley24.bodley.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/acwwweng/ballads/image.pl?ref=Harding+B+40(7)&id=11471.gif&seq=1&size=1


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 02:51 AM

Jim
Eureka - that sounds exactly the one I'm looking for - "Old Hare" came up in the conversation with Vincie.
Not sure how to negotiate the Bodlian site, but I should be able to record everything Vincie has of the song next week
Thanks a million all!!
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 06:01 AM

Nice work Jim.

In fact the links for Harding B40(4)...B40(9) all seem to be broken. I've emailed the Bodleian to see if they can fix them.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 03:04 PM

The 'Old Hare' song was also printed by Sanderson of Edinburgh but unfortunately I don't have a copy. I got this from his catalogue.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 08:01 AM

I've had a prompt reply back from Thaddeus Lipinski at the Bodleian about the problems with the Harding B40 series links:

  Thank you for pointing it out. We are investigating the reason and will get back to you soon.

So with a bit of luck, Jim, you might be able to see the broadside soon. I'll post back here if I get a message to say it's available.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Irish Music Hall song? O'Hare
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 05:32 AM

Sorry - nearly missed this Mick
I'm extremely grateful to you and everybody who contributed to this thread - I'll pass on the result to our neighbour when I get it.
Best.
Jim Carroll


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