Ship Titanic/Old Log Cabin attribs

Subject: Ship Titanic/Old Log Cabin attribs
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 03 Nov 99 - 09:20 PM

What are the correct attributions for Ship Titanic ("It was sad, so sad" etc...) and "Little Old Log Cabin" that the database says it's based on? There's a recording of a parody from last year's World Science Fiction Convention that I'm helping put together; we need to know the proper credit for the liner notes. (And who we might owe royalties to, if anyone...). Thanks!

-- Gary

Subject: RE: Ship Titanic/Old Log Cabin attribs
From: Gene
Date: 03 Nov 99 - 09:33 PM

find who wrote/sang/produced it at -

* www.BMI.com *

* www.ASCAP.com *

* www.NMPA.org *

Subject: RE: Ship Titanic/Old Log Cabin attribs
From: Dale Rose
Date: 03 Nov 99 - 10:12 PM

Well, you won't have any problem with Little Old Log Cabin In The Lane, as it is an 1871 composition by Will S Hays. You will find the sheet music here at the Duke site. As far as the other goes, I can't think of it at the moment, but you can safely bet that it is from the 1930s or even earlier.

Subject: RE: Ship Titanic/Old Log Cabin attribs
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 04 Nov 99 - 06:28 PM

Ship Titanic was one I learned at school, I suspect the 50 year copyright was up, because it was published in a book of traditional songs, things like Old Abraham Brown is dead and gone, Streets of Laredo and Red River Valley.

I'm very fond of Titanic, and sang it occasionally, until someone, naming no names, Micca, started putting in 'but the lemmings were saved' into it. Don't ask how it got started, it just did, right?

Smug bit here, my great grandfathers' cousin William was hospital Steward on board the Titanic. He would have thrown bl**dy Kate Twinsett overboard!!

LTS

LTS

Subject: RE: Ship Titanic/Old Log Cabin attribs
From: Stewie
Date: 04 Nov 99 - 07:17 PM

The chorus, but not the lyrics, in the DT version is the same as that in the recording by William and Versey Smith 'When that Great Ship Went Down' for Paramount 1927. It doesn't have 'Little Old Log Cabin' tune. It's in Harry Smith's 'Anthology' and also on a great compilation of black gospel music by John Fahey on his Revenant label: 'American Primitive Vol 1'. The notes in the reissue 'Anthology' say it was based on a printed ballad in the Frank C. Brown Collection at Duke University. Other blues artists who recorded Titanic related songs included Pink Anderson 'The Titanic' and Blind Willie Johnson 'God Moves on the Water'. Old-time artists included Ernest Stoneman, the Phipps Family, Frank Hutchison and Roy Acuff. Hobart Smith also recorded a song under the title 'The Great Titanic'.

Subject: RE: Ship Titanic/Old Log Cabin attribs
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 04 Nov 99 - 09:47 PM

Stewie - Thanks; I believe the William and Versey Smith is the attrib I'm looking for

Gene - We tried those first and came up dry. So I came to the experts here.

Thanks for your help!

-- Gary