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BS: KISS keep it simple

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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 27 May 23 - 12:19 PM

The neuro link is surgically implanted in a sub-cranial location.
https://6abc.com/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-implant-human-test-subject/13305681/#:~:text=the%20Neuralink%20device.-,The%20device%


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 23 - 06:39 AM

In my opinion the process will depend upon a massive amount of micro wires that will connect to various crucial areas of the brain. It is surprising that the brain adapts to this 'intrusion' as well as it does.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jun 23 - 07:21 AM

Big Brother is watching. Your daily reality is that you are recorded outside your home hundreds or thousands times. Society is thoroughly accustomed to it even inside our homes on the internet.
"War is peace,” “Freedom is slavery,” and “Ignorance is strength” is the rest of the societal training.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jun 23 - 07:34 AM

"War is peace", in Russia, if you call Ukraine a war you get many years in prison. Freedom is slavery, especially with institutional racism. “Ignorance is strength" is apparent in Trumpism, the QAnon movement, and the GOP.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jun 23 - 03:00 PM

The Pentagon wants more/different UAP DATA.
https://defensescoop.com/2023/05/31/pentagon-office-developing-new-sensors-to-better-detect-ufos/

My suggestion is to use LIDAR.
They are still running into the 75 year old stigma of being afraid of being called crazy.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jun 23 - 03:57 PM

Is there a device to measure spacial distortion other than measuring gravity waves?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 04 Jun 23 - 10:35 AM

> Is there a device to measure spacial distortion other than measuring
> gravity waves?

Gravitational lensing? Astrophysicists use the distortions of the object lensed for assessing the mass doing the bending, and iirc can make a good stab at working out what said mass consists of.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jun 23 - 07:20 AM

I'm looking for evidence that UAPs distort space and time beyond mass and energy. Jumping 20 miles in less than a second is not a technology we know about.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jun 23 - 07:43 AM

There are clues in all aspects of UAP propulsion although I can not unify them. It even seems that some UFOs are vulnerable to Earth's lightning. I do not know how that observation fits into this puzzle.
I am not that smart. We are still stymied after 70 years of taking a scientific look at this phenomenon. However, we think we know certain things. Those things are outside our accepted paradigms.

Was it Asimov who said some technology could appear to be magic?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jun 23 - 08:09 AM

I speculate that evolved life around red dwarfs would evolve more slowly over longer periods of time which would outlive our species by long amounts of time. Our life cycle would be fast and furious going by in a blink compared to theirs. Ergo their technology could be much older than ours.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 05 Jun 23 - 09:51 AM

> Was it Asimov who said some technology could appear to be magic?

Arthur C Clarke's third law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." The 'Cat's having a funny five minutes on longer submissions, so I'll stop there.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jun 23 - 02:43 PM

Of course Arthur C Clark. That was either a brain fart or the beginning of dementia or both.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jun 23 - 06:26 AM

The mysteries in life are the stuff of great Art.
Admiring the Art of mysteries is simple.
You do or don't.
I ask what's next.
If I am right about a conclusion I am as surprised as anyone
All glory or discovery is fleeting.
The rest is your usual bag of problems.
Some see the Universe and say :why:
I see the Universe and say "why not"
When there is proof as to why not, I move on.
Asking why not allows for new thinking.
Today asking why not will be the domain of AI.
In a trillionth of a second.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jun 23 - 06:36 AM

Its time to ask, "When conditions change and epochs fade and species become extinct, we need to ask when we are also obsolete."


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jun 23 - 05:51 AM

News items:



Dr Max Tagmark is a top-flight physicist believes the Earth is alone as life bearing in the universe. However the alien visitation of Earth will be our own AI from the future.

More UAP disclosure is urged from insider whistle blowers regarding recovered craft by the military.

The Pope is having more intestinal surgery today.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jun 23 - 05:00 PM

AI growth is ultra exponential. In the movie Lucy by Luc Benson, Lucy's last minute of exponential intelligent growth is visualized.
Its hard to get your head around trillions of operations per second.
Primitive chat GPT, unfortunately, learned from the internet and hateful social media. Even when well intentioned people try to correct for prejudice, it is biased - as in the Phil Ochs song love me I'm a liberal.
It sounded like Congress took the AI hearings seriously but believe me some Senators do not have a clue.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jun 23 - 06:21 AM

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2306/ic1396ASI294large.jpg


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jun 23 - 01:33 PM

The Pope "suffered what the Vatican said was a severe inflammation and narrowing of the colon. In an interview with The Associated Press in January, Francis said the diverticulosis, or bulges in his intestinal wall, that prompted the 2021 surgery, had returned."

They need to get more fiber in his diet. No more diet of worms.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jun 23 - 05:54 PM

The prelude from suicide prevention was to advance a subject I will now get to directly. There are gangs of youth who compete with others to obtain suicides of kids that they troll, bully, create rumors, and such. I know because my son was a victim of such attacks and suggestions in middle school. Rather than risk further deletion I will leave it there.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jun 23 - 11:00 PM

In the 12th century the book Lignus Verite was written. It was not published until the 15th century. It claimed Pope Benedictine would be the last Pope. If a super volcano in Naples erupted could it destroy Rome? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/campi-flegrei-volcano-closer-to-erution-last-erupted-1538-researchers/


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jun 23 - 04:24 AM

Hmm. The CBS news piece is superficial and the story has been dumbed down by someone without much understanding of the science. However, it's true that level of concern in the Campi Flegrei area has risen. In the early 1980s the degree of uplift at Pozzuoli (bradyseism) was so alarming that 40,000 residents were evacuated, but that came to nothing. The eruption in 1538 was very small, throwing up a cinder cone (Monte Nuovo) about 500 feet tall. The real biggie was about 39000 years ago when a VEI:7 eruption (the Campanian Ignimbrite) deposited material over more than a million square miles. It was probably the biggest eruption in Europe in the last 200 millennia. It's been suggested that the eruption hastened the extinction of the Neanderthals. Ground uplift and sinking (bradyseism) is a feature of the area. That, and the rather frenetic minor earthquake activity in recent years, is monitored more closely than anywhere else on earth, I should think. The Campi Flegrei caldera, along with Vesuvius only a few miles away, between them potentially threaten around three million people. I know Pozzuoli (a workaday sort of place) and have visited the scary Solfatara crater just outside the town, sadly no longer accessible after a terrible accident there in 2017. The patron saint of Naples, San Gennaro, was beheaded in the crater in the fourth century and you can see his bones in a big urn in the crypt in the Duomo in Naples (the nearby archeological museum is much more interesting). The wonderful Sophia Loren has strong connections with Pozzuoli, which is just as interesting as the volcano.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jun 23 - 11:22 AM

I was surprised recently to find "CBS news" in the feed in my Instagram account - I don't remember following them. I suspect they used to be something else that changed the name and are offering up more easily-digested content that ends up being trite. I looked it up - there is talk about "rebranding" but it started last year. Hmmmm. I scrolled through and found this bold fashion statement by an Iranian model. I don't remember seeing this story anywhere else. That isn't trite, and for her, it could result in dangerous repercussions at home.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jun 23 - 06:32 PM

If you live anywhere near an active or dormant volcano, you should be prepared to evacuate at a moment's notice as eruptions are not always predictable. The danger area around a volcano covers approximately a 20-mile radius; however, some danger may exist 100 miles or more from a volcano. This is Steve's expertise.

I could have used a Guardian link.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Jun 23 - 06:52 PM

It is not my expertise at all. I know the area, I've been there more than once (and will go again!) and I've looked it up using a number of sources. That's crucial. You'll learn nothing by relying on a single popular science source. I go to places and I like to know what's going on, and I've been to Campi Flegrei, I've drunk in the romance of the area (it's my favourite place on planet Earth) and, because I hate not knowing stuff, I've looked it up, and I try to keep up. I'm in awe of our planet's elemental forces, but there will be equations and other technicalities generated by the area's research stations that will be utterly beyond me. But I've been up every one of Europe's active volcanoes except for Cumbrae Vieja in the Canaries (it's on my bucket list) and I just stand on the craters' edges and shake my head. Actually, I should visit the La Palma one before half the island slumps into the Atlantic and wipes out New York with is associated tsunami...


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jun 23 - 01:01 PM

You should visit New York then, not La Palma. I think NYC looks best at night from the water POV.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 23 - 08:41 AM

Back to cosmology: The biggest mistake people make in viewing the universe is that gravity is a force. It really is time curvature.
In this spacetime curvature, it is time that curves the most. In our area time curves one way in the presence of matter but far out in the universe it curves the other way. We call this an expansion of the universe but it is the effect of space time curvature so galaxies appear to be moving away from each other and not like local spacetime curvature that we call gravity, pulling things closer.
Black holes curve time so much it is a one way trip in which nothing can re emerge since they can not exceed the speed of light. What we call gravity waves are ripples in space time curvature.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Jun 23 - 08:44 AM

What kind of chocolate do astronauts like?

Mars bars.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jun 23 - 09:05 AM

Galaxy, Dave?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 Jun 23 - 09:37 AM

Milky Way? (All by the same manufacturer, on a marketing theme).

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Jun 23 - 10:29 AM

Why could the astronaut not sit down?

He suffered from asteroids


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jun 23 - 10:45 AM

OK if I borrow your van, Allen? It's a belter!


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 23 - 05:09 PM

Doug, there is a black hole as big as the Milky Way. It's 10 billion light-years away.

Time and space each have special degrees of freedom. Space can move faster than light and time is so flexible it can stop and locally reverse - inside a black hole.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 23 - 05:19 PM

UAPs do not portray any aspects of propulsion but they do show tricks of space and time.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 Jun 23 - 06:02 PM

Doug, there is a black hole as big as the Milky Way.

I am sure that a black hole is bigger than the Milky Way that I am thinking about. Mine is made of nougat covered in chocolate and is 14cm x 13cm x 15cm.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jun 23 - 06:05 PM

Just avoid the fun-size ones though, Doug. No room for them in this thread...


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Jun 23 - 05:30 AM

Two theoretical physicists are lost at the top of a mountain. Theoretical physicist No 1 pulls out a map and peruses it for a while. Then he turns to theoretical physicist No 2 and says: "Hey, I've figured it out. I know where we are."
"Where are we then?"
"Do you see that mountain over there?"
"Yes."
"Well… THAT'S where we are."


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 23 - 03:45 PM

The blue dot is a planetary nebula-home of galactic overlords?

The blue dot is a planetary nebula-home of galactic overlords?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Jun 23 - 04:48 PM

A photon books into a hotel and the manager asks where its suitcase is. The photon replies, “I didn’t bring any luggage. I’m traveling light.”

A photon books into a hotel and the manager asks where its suitcase is. The photon replies, “I didn’t bring any luggage. I’m traveling light.”


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 23 - 04:56 PM

Johnny two times always tells a joke twice.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 15 Jun 23 - 04:57 PM

Is it just me, or do others find this diffraction grating?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Jun 23 - 05:16 PM

What's a diffraction grating and where did you find it?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 15 Jun 23 - 05:45 PM

> What's a diffraction grating

A set of lines separated by not much: I once saw a piece of glass ruled with 3000 lines per inch diffract a beam of monochromatic light by thirty degrees or so, much to the teacher's surprise.

> and where did you find it?

If you can't get to a physics lab or a school, turn over a CD or DVD under white light, and look for the reflection with the rainbow pattern. The effect's wavelength-dependent.

.... Oh, and look up "double-slit experiment" for why I made the comment in the first place. We now return you to the KISS Principle.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 23 - 07:08 PM

Oil drop on vibrating water demonstrates how particle waves behave as they pass through a double slit in the lab. The beads of oil even show how pilot waves behave. Also in the lab you can produce the equivalent of a black hole using acoustics.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 23 - 07:40 PM

Some butterfly wings have a diffraction grating that produces colored patterns. A moire pattern can sometimes make a color.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Jun 23 - 02:23 AM

Hey, CDs and DVDs are rarer than schools nowadays :-)

I saw the double slot experiment but I wasn't sure if it changed because I was watching it...


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 16 Jun 23 - 05:33 AM

Thanks, Donuel; that's reminded me .... many birds' feather colours are produced by interference effects rather than coloured chemicals. Peacocks come to mind. You can spot the ones that do this by the way the colour shimmers as you and/or the bird moves.

.... Which has reminded me of certain car colours, which change with the angle of view. The constabulary do not love the owners, as this effect confuses crime-scene reportage.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jun 23 - 06:32 PM

I will look into making acoustic black holes in the basement.
I have no idea how they work or what they do. How hard could it be.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jun 23 - 08:07 AM

WATCH CNN AT 8 PM SUNDAY!


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Jun 23 - 08:09 AM

There are 3 types of people in this world
Those who understand quantum computing

Those who do not understand quantum computing

And those who both simultaneously do and do not understand quantum computing


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 17 Jun 23 - 08:34 AM

The Simpsons had a black hole in their basement and pretty much everything got sucked into it as I recall, so I say yeah, go for it.
Jes kiddin', (sort of).


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