BS: KISS keep it simple

Subject: RE: DECLUTTER * Health/Home Ecologic-Innovation *2023
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 05:19 AM

If my handle wasn't Donuel it would be Capt. Obvious. What is obvious to me are the historic threads on this forum that were most dear to people had 3 things in common. They were Health, Happiness and Love.
DECLUTTER is one of those threads. MOAB (now extinct) in the days of Amos and Catspaw was a thread of outrageous happiness. Then there was the thread for those who were suffering.

Above the line Identity, community and purpose is clear and vibrant.
Below the line, there is not so much happiness at times.
The KISS thread is about seed ideas that can grow, There are new things under the sun and a need for fundamental change. Since what is past has not passed, culture often falls back to 19th and 20th-century subjective stereotypes that, if left unchallenged, continue into our future.
Old ideas that nature or people are to be exploited, defeated or overcome suck but persist. What may seem like whacky ideas might grow into a mighty oak. NAH !

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 10:27 AM

There are people who are taught they have to hide some kind of individuality from society. It used to be race, gay people or intersex people who were told to hide but whatever differences be it disability or ability I say viva la difference. The fear of being made fun of should not cage people in denial, whatever their differences.

Living in the open might mean there could be sacrifices or challenges but it is better than having stupid people dictate your worth or worthlessness. Being free needs courage not cowardice in lying and hiding. There is such a thing as too much information but too much honesty doesn't hurt anyone unless there is criminality.

Believe me I am happy to not be a steve.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 10:39 AM

But some of us are already in the habit of not believing anything you say! Tricky...

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 12:01 PM

I suppose thanks to you. As for Trump I was just the first to warn as did Bill Mahre. I was also the first to warn of Covid.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 12:04 PM

No you were not.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 12:20 PM

While predictions are not perfectly precise, they are uncanny and don't all fit in the deduction box

As for Covid there was inside info from the NIH. However biowar accidents have been an accident waiting to happen for decades.

You remind me of the argument employee from Monty Python. :^/.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 12:26 PM

Don, I need you to have a look at my wagers for next Sunday and to give me a future Injury Report.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 12:35 PM

Now for something entirely different...
The CDC calls isolation an epidemic

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 12:50 PM

Dave, I do not drink or gamble. When Google first offered public shares I did not consider investing $400,000 gambling.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 01:09 PM

I don't gamble either, I was just goofing with you.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Stanron
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 01:20 PM

Well gillymor, how about

win, win, win, watch out for that gate?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 01:58 PM

no idea

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 03:13 PM

"The KISS thread is about seed ideas that can grow,'

I thought it was about keeping things simple?

Still, I am happy for it to mutate into a Don bollocks thread if that means the rest of the forum is free from said bollocks!

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 04:49 PM

Google has split twice 2 to 1 and is now 136 from 85 in 2004.
Its just about out of juice unless AI gives it a bump but if tech monopolies are broken up, SELL.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Sep 23 - 05:06 PM

If you can't do it in your head that's over 5 times the money.
Dave should invest in Marvel. Their new trans superhero 'Gnome Man' could be a hit.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 03:06 AM

It's no dafter than some of your posts, Don.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 07:35 AM

Reality has no particles, reality is only probabilities based on information. why postive choices create happiness and reality

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 08:03 AM

This thread started with symmetry theory based on particles.
Now we arrive at a theory of EVERYTHING in which there are no particles unless there is a wave collapse.
A big Theory of Everthing (A big TOE) has a very real effect on your life more than anything 'discussed' so far.
It explains my experience and quandaries and more than trying to unite quantum theory with Relativity - it even explains consciousness.
If you are curious you would need to invest 40 minutes or you could deny everything and ignore this link. Reality

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 08:14 AM

I can see why you quote it, Don, but as a podcast by "Next Level Soul" that has the headline "NASA Quantum Physicist PROVES We LIVE in a CONSCIOUS SIMULATION", I don't think I shall be investing any more of time in it. I am denying nothing. Just not prepared to waste 2 hours - not 40 minutes BTW - on something which falls at the first hurdle.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 09:22 AM

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A simulation universe is not the takeaway point of the big TOE.
The main point is that consciousness and intent shape the future in ways that may seem impossible but are real.
Those who are not curious are as good as dead
.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 10:14 AM

Don, you might be a little easier to take if you weren't so condescending and judgmental.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 10:26 AM

If you are not curious you are as good as dead

is an Albert Einstien quote.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 10:50 AM

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 10:51 AM

He could be a pompous jackass at times, as well.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 11:00 AM

The way consciousness intertwines with physis, like a vine's tendril about a branch, is more real and relevant than String Theory which is still just materialistic and stupidly complex. As people we have free will but are very predictable. We obey the same fractal patterns as the fractal universe which is also very predictable but allows for the unlikely.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 11:07 AM

He could be whimsical and funny at times as well. Aren't we all?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 11:17 AM

I'm extremely curious about many things. Just not about how to waste 2 hours of my life on your confirmation bias. It's like being interested enough to find out what it is like to stick pins in my eyes.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 11:38 AM

In response to the 99% of people's comments that are negative and abusive, I consider myself quite positive. But I always remember that this is social media and the people who post are mostly old lonely guys who sound more bitter than they may actually be.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 12:51 PM

I dunno how you arrive at these daft conclusions, Don. "the people who post are mostly old lonely guys"? Old. Yes, I'll give you that one. Lonely. I reckon that most of us who post on here are into folk music which, just by its nature, is a very social activity. Far from lonely. Guys. Surely there are as many gals?

For someone who often braggs of his mental prowess your powers of reasoning leave a lot to be desired.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 01:19 PM

Lonely? Not me - I have a lovely wife many years my junior, who loves me, as the saying goes, ‘to the moon and back’, a son and his partner and my grandson, my lovely dog, a wide circle of friends of both sexes from my schooldays, my sea-going days, my working days, my sporting activities, and my musical activities. I don’t have time to be lonely.

Bitter? Not me - I’m having too much fun to be bitter.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 02:43 PM

THIS IS AMAZING, using red light and a hologram we can get micron-sized resolution of our entire body or brain.
WARNING Gnome it will take time to click the link
the inventor of the better MRI

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 02:52 PM

Click on the link's TED talks

an entire MRI-like device is now no larger than a Santa Claus belt.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 03:09 PM

Einstein did not make that quote. More made-up shite.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 04:54 PM

Curiosity should begin at birth and never end until death
Quote Albert Einstien

the importence of curiosity

steve must have been constipated, he only comes here to take a shite

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 05:00 PM

The full quote

"The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, no longer marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed."

--"The World As I See It," originally published in FORUM AND CENTURY, 193

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 05:03 PM

Here's an Einstein QUOTE:

"The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, no longer marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed."

Any idea why I put the word QUOTE in capitals, Donuel? Any idea why your Einstein QUOTE is not a QUOTE at all? Shall I tell you why? Because when you QUOTE someone you use their exact words. And why is it that whenever I'm piqued to check up on something you've said, I find that it's wrong?

Busted, can't be trusted...

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 05:06 PM

Full quote my arse. What you posted wasn't even a part of the quote. At least you've looked it up now. Pity you didn't do that before you posted your nonsense.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 05:14 PM

I am not a medium. I do not speak to the dead.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 06:02 PM

You lied. You made it up.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 06:07 PM

I don't give a ****

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 06:56 PM

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/14/nasa-to-americans-help-us-find-ufos-00115896

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 07:31 PM

You don't give a **** for the truth, that's for sure. You are taking the piss out of everyone who reads your posts.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 07:35 PM

The UFO bullshit that you've been propagating so enthusiastically has been dissed by NASA, admittedly a bit more diplomatically than I've done here. Stick to science is NASA's story. Take the hint.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 08:21 PM

Those who are as good as dead do not speak for everyone.
I speak for myself since I can only access my experiences and study.

A real-life tech GENIUS

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 08:32 PM

Donuel's "quote": "Curiosity should begin at birth and never end until death"
Quote Albert Einstien [sic]

The true quote: "Intellectual growth should commence at birth and cease only at death."

There ya go, chaps and chapesses. His "quote" isn't actually a quote at all. It's half-remembered nonsense that he casually chucks at us. He is so full of his self-regard that he insults us by posting rubbish that he can't be bothered to check, thinking we won't notice. "Fan of science," eh?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 08:41 PM

The last half inch of the genius link is golden

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 08:54 PM

UFO PHYSICS

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Sep 23 - 05:47 AM

Sometimes, people who are "as good as dead" are curious enough to investigate things, make connections, look things up, check their facts and get things right. There's joy in all those endeavours that you have yet to find, old son. There's no joy in casually posting half-baked, half-remembered and downright inaccurate guff, especially coming from someone who makes the specious claim that he's "a fan of science."

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Sep 23 - 07:12 AM

A week or so ago, the ‘Trump’ thread was closed on the grounds that my pointing out to Donuel that an accusation of rape doesn’t automatically make the accused man a rapist amounted to ‘bickering’. Although that thread has now been opened again, several posts, including my two correcting Donuel’s error, have been deleted.

Yet you two, with occasional contributions from others, have been continually kicking lumps out of each other since post #3 on 5th January, without any action, or even comment, from ‘Da Management’.

Strange how my two posts on the Trump thread were viewed as ‘bickering’ and justified the closure of the thread, yet a nine-month-long running feud involving regular insults in this thread goes on unchecked.

Does anyone understand the reason(s) for the apparently-double moderational standards here?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Raggytash
Date: 15 Sep 23 - 07:17 AM

"But I always remember that this is social media and the people who post are mostly old lonely guys who sound more bitter than they may actually be."

More abject nonsense.

You have had many instances of Dave, Backwoodsman and Steve referring to their long standing partners, for myself I have enjoyed a happy and healthy relationship with my wife for almost 45 years.