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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 23 - 06:25 AM

A split second sprite caught on film


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 23 - 08:24 AM

I think Venus is hell. It's bright as hell and hot as Hades.
Besides it's cloudy ALL the time.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 10:07 AM

Hell is inside malignant narcissists who think the world deserves their vengeance.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 03:14 PM

One of his favoUrite female aids called him a malignant narcissist.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 06:02 PM

The new microbe, a cyanobacterium, was discovered in September in volcanic seeps near the Italian island of Vulcano, where the water contains high levels of CO2. The researchers said the bug turned CO2 into biomass faster than any other known cyanobacteria.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 06:11 PM

Underground microbes can trap CO2. underground CO2 eating microbes


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Sep 23 - 08:05 AM

Good post from Steve's 1st hand observation of Vulcano.

I can not even locate Raggytash's sense of humor.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Sep 23 - 07:12 PM

What's feeble about Steve's post other than no mention of the miracle microbes?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 06:03 AM

Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 07:06 PM

Hell will freeze over first.
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Perhaps your scatological remarks have more to do with old ethnic hatreds than science.https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 06:21 AM

The psychology of hate: Moral concerns differentiate hate from dislike


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 07:28 AM

I'm not anything except curious, concerned, and contemporary.
You guys are ambassadors whether you know it or not. 70-year-old hooligans and trolls are not a good look for the UK. We also have our version of rednecks. Even worse we have Trump fanatics.

a brain mechanism for hate


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 08:32 AM

See? Closure of this thread is the goal
of the indecent despite my including interesting links.
Good people could always include science links that are interesting to them.

Perhaps the most compelling link on Mudcat now is Sandra from Sydney's link to a half a million-year-old wooden structure.


Considering who started the thread and who keeps coming back to argue, there are no innocent parties in the demise of yet another thread. ---mudelf


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Sep 23 - 10:22 AM

The 3D printed stainless steel bridge in Amsterdam opened in 2021. It's actually quite beautiful. It reminds me of a highly-designed wooden footbridge installed in a creek park with the twists in the design. (The local bridge looks like a Pacific NW cedar canoe that washed up in the Texas prairie, but whatever).


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 09:29 PM

I think you could be quite an old man.

From what I can work out, Donuel seems to be around a year younger than me so - not old. Not old at all!

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 01:28 PM

Where do the gooseberry bushes come into all this?

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 06:23 AM

The text of the link    “the inventor of the better MRI”    (posted is 14 Sep 23 - 02:52 PM) is misleading as the subject of the TED talk was an optical alternative to MRI and had nothing to do with magnetic resonance.

The talk itself was very interesting although I would have liked more on how the hologram refocuses the light scattered by the body tissues.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 08:11 AM

The hologram works like a filter that unscrambles and undiffuses light to its original beam. It sort of works like an opposite Plinko game.

Yes ... but how? That is what I would have liked to hear more about. I've never heard of Plinko, so it's not much help.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 16 Sep 23 - 08:28 AM

... she even won a Nobel prize for this unintuitive idea.

There's nothing in the Wikipedia page on her about a Nobel prize and she doesn't seem to appear in the list of Nobel laureates in Physics.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Thompson
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 04:13 PM

Too much spite. Here's an interesting video about the growth of SUV sales.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Thompson
Date: 10 Sep 23 - 01:59 PM

My impression would chime with Donuel's, that the codger factor is higher below the line. But it's only an impression from occasional visits.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Thompson
Date: 11 Sep 23 - 02:10 PM

And the secret of cooking quinoa just right? Equal amounts of water/stock and grain. That makes it fluffy with the right amount of bite.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 01:19 PM

Lonely? Not me - I have a lovely wife many years my junior, who loves me, as the saying goes, ‘to the moon and back’, a son and his partner and my grandson, my lovely dog, a wide circle of friends of both sexes from my schooldays, my sea-going days, my working days, my sporting activities, and my musical activities. I don’t have time to be lonely.

Bitter? Not me - I’m having too much fun to be bitter.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Sep 23 - 07:12 AM

A week or so ago, the ‘Trump’ thread was closed on the grounds that my pointing out to Donuel that an accusation of rape doesn’t automatically make the accused man a rapist amounted to ‘bickering’. Although that thread has now been opened again, several posts, including my two correcting Donuel’s error, have been deleted.

Yet you two, with occasional contributions from others, have been continually kicking lumps out of each other since post #3 on 5th January, without any action, or even comment, from ‘Da Management’.

Strange how my two posts on the Trump thread were viewed as ‘bickering’ and justified the closure of the thread, yet a nine-month-long running feud involving regular insults in this thread goes on unchecked.

Does anyone understand the reason(s) for the apparently-double moderational standards here?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Sep 23 - 07:36 AM

I do admit to being old, Raggy, but ‘lonely’, or ‘bitter’? Nah!


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Sep 23 - 04:49 PM

I’m not ‘whingeing about a couple of deleted posts’, I’m asking why there are double standards in moderation. Why two posts of mine, which did exactly the same as you claim your many, many posts over a nine month period are doing - challenging Donuel’s garbage - are regarded as ‘bickering’ and used to justify the closing of a thread, whereas a nine-month-long bickering feud between you and Donuel is allowed to continue unabated and uncommented upon.

That’s all. I passed no comment on who’s right or wrong, there is no ‘sitting back in judgment’ in my post, I really don’t give a FF on that score - you’re both as bad as each other AFAIC. He won’t stop trolling you, and you can’t stop responding to it.

And stop bringing dogs and their owners up every time I post something you don’t like. Your cynophobic views are well-known, and you’re not going to succeed in provoking me on that subject.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 07:30 AM

Still bickering then…??


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 08:12 AM

Dave - Cleaning it up is the Mods’ job. It’s you lot’s bickering that’s making the place stink. Why do you think so many former posters stay away nowadays? They haven’t all died, I suspect many are still around, but I also suspect that, like me, they’re sick to death of a small number of posters dominating threads with their ad nauseam bickering.

Steve - you’re one of the main bickerers. Know thyself. (Virtually no chance of that, I know).


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Aug 23 - 01:30 PM

We're all interstellar objects.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Aug 23 - 03:33 PM

Yeah. Discuss.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Aug 23 - 09:25 AM

Interstellar is a vague term which simply means "among (or between if you must) the stars." If you mean "outside the heliopause" you need to say just that. I'm "inside" the heliopause (i.e., I'm under the influence of the sun-related things that stop influencing me when I go beyond it), but I'm not part of, or in or on, the sun, therefore I'm interstellar if I want to put it that way. It simply isn't a scientific term unless qualified. It's a nice word though, as are helicopter and mellifluous. Musk and Branson may be able to help you one day.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Aug 23 - 07:53 PM

You can't do anything accurately. Now the thing is that you are attempting (usually unsuccessfully) to address matters of science in this thread. It seems never to have occurred to you that, in any discussion of a scientific matter, it's vitally important to use scientifically accurate language which will communicate ideas clearly and without ambiguity. Time and time again you show that you are incapable of doing that. Sad, really.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Aug 23 - 09:36 AM

"As another amateur science enthusiast, I show others the weakness of the past status quo and might inspire others how by simply thinking, anyone can make breakthroughs."

The unjustified outburst of ego there is simply staggering.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 23 - 06:44 AM

There are plenty of insects that are predators that far outnumber cats. And there are probably hundreds of thousands of spiders in my garden alone.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 23 - 10:33 AM

So, after a moment's thought, you realised that you were wrong about cats. Could I suggest that from now on you have a moment's thought BEFORE you post?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 23 - 01:21 PM

Yes it matters. You constantly make assertions that need fact-checks first that you haven't carried out. This is not lying but it's exceptionally careless and untrustworthy behaviour. As for evil, deluded would be a better descriptor. The upshot is, for example, that while I haven't a clue as to how much DNA we share with cats or how many vertebrae they've got, you are the very last person I'd trust to give me the facts about it, or about anything else come to think of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Aug 23 - 06:18 PM

So what's with the trend of posting the same post to more than one thread?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Sep 23 - 03:38 PM

Donuel's latest (of many) unattributed copy and paste is from futurism.com. Just in case you'd suddenly thought that he'd turned literate. Hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 05:06 PM

You don't live in the real world, pal.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 06:08 PM

Your nature is half-arsed, half-truth (or less), uninformed utter bullshit. I've told you before. Check your facts before you post. It's what the rest of us do and it's what you never do, and by so not doing you bring the forum into disrepute. I think you could be quite an old man. But that's no bloody excuse.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 09:49 AM

Just think before you post. I don't post at 5 am either. Depending on where you are, we are at least five hours ahead of you, you clown.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 09:52 AM

And in the interests of accuracy, a concept alien to you, my first name is Stephen, as I've pointed out several times before. Get my name wrong again and I'll call you Donuel Duck for ever more. That would be quite appropriate in any case, you quackpot.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 03:37 AM

Then it isn't "free floating," is it?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 10:11 AM

There is no "free-floating." The fimbriae, finger-like processes at the ovary end of the fallopian tube, sweep over the ovary as the follicle breaks open and set up a current that directs the oocyte into the fallopian tube. Then peristaltic activity of the smooth muscle in the wall of the tube moves the oocyte in the direction of the uterus. This takes several days and fertilisation, if it happens, takes place in the fallopian tube. The wall of the tube does contain cilia but they perform a secondary role only in moving the egg and have been shown to be non-essential.

There's nothing like checking your facts before posting. Have I said that before, I ask myself?


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 03:11 PM

Absolute rubbish, as ever.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Sep 23 - 04:21 PM

I'm not "quibbling" about anything. I'm giving you the unalloyed facts. You were plain wrong, simple as that.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Sep 23 - 04:20 AM

"Once captured by the fallopian structure the free-floating stage of the follicle is over."

Well there's no free-floating, of course, and the thing that leaves the ovary is not a "follicle." The follicle stays put in the ovary.

"If you did a search they go so far as to say the vesicle free floats in the abdominal cavity."

The thing that leaves the ovary that's guided into the fallopian tube is not a "vesicle."

By all means skip over my posts, folks. If you do, pure fiction will prevail! :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Sep 23 - 02:58 PM

He doesn't actually make things up as such. He thinks he's read something somewhere, he issues us with a garbled and simplistic version of it and confidently asserts misinformation arising from his lack of comprehension. When he's found out he gives us a load of flannel about his imagination or ideas or his bogus prophetic skills or something. There's a very simple solution (isn't that supposed to be the spirit of the thread?): check your facts before posting. Almost everything he said about ovulation was incorrect. He hadn't checked. I did the checking and found out what he should have found out for himself, that his initial ideas were near-garbage. He's just posted some bollix about orgasms. I know it's bollix but I haven't got the energy to check. I've been up since the crack of doom, have travelled for four hours by road to and from airports and endured a hot, sweaty delayed flight from Málaga, including mucho hanging about standing up in boiling airports. I'm knackered, and that's a real fact!


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Sep 23 - 07:50 PM

I'm a very happy chap, as anyone who knows me would attest. It ill-behoves you to comment on my general demeanour as you have never met me in person. I wouldn't comment on yours for the same reason, though I would muse on the fact that some of the happiest people I know are also the stupidest. When I can be arsed to examine the assertions you make on this forum, I find that you peddle misinformation as a matter of routine. In a recent example I found that almost every assertion you made about ovulation was completely wrong, not just slightly in error, and I've done the donkey work in exposing that and correcting you. Much of what you post here is ostensibly about science. But, you see, science is there to advance human understanding of the world, the universe and the laws of nature. Almost all of what you post is either speculative, whimsical, half-baked, overly-simplistic, unchecked or just downright misunderstood. Well in science that simply won't do. When you post your abundant inaccuracies you claim that it doesn't matter because, variously, you claim to be a man of ideas, ultra-imaginative, some kind of free thinking visionary, when all the time we can see that you're just a bloody clot. In addition, you are completely useless when it comes to clearly communicating whatever it is you're trying to tell us. You appear to revel in whimsy and obscurantism, perhaps thinking that it marks you out as some kind of floating-over-the-rest-of-us guru. Well you're just not. Basically, you're a fraud, you've be been called out several times each at least by gilly, Raggytash, Backwoodsman, Dave, Ebbie, Joe and others, apart from yours truly. As we saw on the Trump thread, you have an arch-protector in high places. I'd say, don't let that go to your head. Instead, let's post to threads like this only after checking our facts first, and let's try to understand that science is there to wonderfully extend our understanding of the universe via baby steps, not via wild-west flights of whimsy.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Sep 23 - 09:09 AM

"I will remain predictive, up to date and sometimes whimsical in the nature of my interests. And usually wrong." That's what your self-aggrandising statement should have gone on to say.

There is no virtue in being wrong all the time, then dressing up your wrongness in bogus claims of what a great imagination you have, etc. The virtue lies in spending a little time checking your facts before posting, and typing in clear, simple English. Good scientists don't just sit at home having a big think. They also endeavour to communicate their knowledge as clearly as possible to others. Apart from the facts that you are not a good scientist and that you're a useless communicator, you're fine.


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Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Sep 23 - 01:25 PM

You rattled on more than once about "free-floating," which doesn't happen. Your last attempt is the first time you mentioned the fimbriae guiding the oocyte into the fallopian tube, a crucial part of events and the opposite of "free-floating." You failed to mention the main mechanism by which the egg is transported along the tube. You stated in effect that it's the follicle that escapes from the ovary, which showed that you didn't know what the follicle is. You then referred to the oocyte as a "vesicle," which is simply risible. Your errors were nothing to do with "leaving out enormous amounts of data" and everything to do with your highly-imperfect understanding of the process you were pontificating about. About eight or ten minutes looking it up on wiki would have remedied all of it for you, but, as ever, you just fire proudly off as if you're the expert. You latest additions are entertaining if nothing else, and now you're moving into areas sexual such as masturbation, how pleasure declines with age, the tale of the hymen (note spelling...) and suspected non-virginity, etc. I can't wait for the next instalment. Maybe it will be your imperfectly-remembered chunks of the Kama Sutra that will be so badly-described that anyone trying them out will dislocate every joint in their body. Pass the mushrooms!


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