BS: KISS keep it simple

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Jun 23 - 07:41 AM

Dave the Gnome - Aged? Eh movent!

Steve Shaw - Have stews

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jun 23 - 08:09 AM

Dormitory        Dirty Room
Evangelist        Evil's Agent
Desperation        A Rope Ends It

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Jun 23 - 09:52 AM

Dave the Gnome = vehement dago

And here's me thinking you were just a carefree Lancashire lad...

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Jun 23 - 10:07 AM

:-D

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jun 23 - 06:58 PM

I suspect the usual suspects are not here for the science issues.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/jwsts-first-glimpses-of-early-galaxies-could-break-cosmology/

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Jul 23 - 10:37 AM

The Scientific American link throws its baby out with the bathwater by being shallow and sensationalist (its usual modus operandi). I'll gird my loins and try again later, more manfully this time, to get past that ridiculous first paragraph.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jul 23 - 04:36 PM

The observations are not what we expected, it is basically too soon to say what we are actually seeing.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Jul 23 - 05:52 PM

Yebbut you wouldn't think that, reading some of the sensationalist hyperbole, would you?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jul 23 - 07:37 PM

observable universe

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jul 23 - 06:27 AM

Pretty colours.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jul 23 - 06:46 AM

You got to ACK cent two eight the positive
E-lemon 8 the negative
latch onto the affirmative
and don't mess with mister in between.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jul 23 - 11:02 AM

My garden gnome

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Jul 23 - 04:00 PM

That's gno gnome!

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jul 23 - 07:59 AM

It's a stone feathered serpent. There is evidence in the fossil record for such a species for some bi pedal reptiles.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jul 23 - 11:34 AM

More Shel Silverstien
than Al Einstein
More showman
than Shaman
More honest
than Thomas
More or less
than less is more
More resourceful
than forceful
Put them all together
and you get Donuel.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Jul 23 - 11:37 AM

You forgot to mention your giant testicles.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jul 23 - 06:05 AM

There is no spectacle like the evangelical Testicle Festival.
There are testicles in glass receptacles and pictures of harmful chemicals reaching out with tentacles to strangle what dangles.
I don't know if what the clowns were juggling were real but at least everyone had a ball.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jul 23 - 03:42 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfcC6FYyL4U

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jul 23 - 11:33 PM

That is a clever video, and Monty Python adds the proper tone. :)

Those Olmec, Teotihuacan, Toltec, Maya, and Aztec cultures had a lot of material to draw from. We still don't have a complete understanding of how many of the charismatic megafauna overlapped with some of them to be added to the temple sculptures. Early Europeans saw dinosaur fossils and decided they must be dragons. So we can let the New World folks have some fanciful interpretations of what they saw in their universe.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 23 - 07:19 AM

20 miles away from our house a 150 million year old fossil of a T Rex ancestor was found this week.

The Philippine ethnic group Ayta Magbukon has the highest proportion of genes from our extinct relatives, the Denisovans, a new study led by Uppsala University shows. Their Denisovan share far exceeds that of ethnic groups in Papua New Guinea, who previously held the record.Aug 13, 2021
I believe Denosovians also mixed with early south Americans. I would guess they were better builders than Neanderthals in Europe.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jul 23 - 02:32 PM

pretty emerald comet

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jul 23 - 08:29 AM

If you need to find new clues you have to find what is missing and why. While finding these facts is not proof, they are clues to asking better questions.
There is a binary star system Zeta Reticuli 1 and 2. From a planet around Zeta Reticuli 1 you would see the other star all day long as well as its planets. The stars are a billion years older than the sun.
The mirror on the Webb telescope would have to be a kilometer bigger to see detailed planetary features but it can analyze their atmospheres.
There are other reasons to explore those planets but this is the very thing that is missing or unmentioned. So I ask, is there a reason that information isn't found? Or is it too soon?

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jul 23 - 08:27 PM

Note the hexagonal structure. This shape appears in nature be it the currents around the north pole of Saturn or this star

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Jul 23 - 12:42 PM

Mutual benefit and generosity are the foods of new species of life.
This is the reason I recommend psilocybin mushrooms. People will find new life, attitudes, and education. Since we will all die, most of us will join the mycelium world of life. This is the afterlife religion going back to the ancient Egyptians got wrong. Sealing yourself away from the mycelium world is not the way to go.

Another tip for the enlightened concerns the turkey tail mushroom that enhances the therapeutic value of other medicines like taxol. I used to collect turkey tails because they often seem to have small writing on their edges that look ancient.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 11:27 AM

This is why some of us get at you sometimes, Don. You are not a doctor. You do not know the effects that ANY foodstuff, medicinal product or hallucogen will have on anyone on here so why would you recommend anything to anyone? At most you should describe the effects that such things have on you personally and, even then, list the possible side effects to other people. What would you do if, worse case scenario, someone died after following your recommendations? More likely what if someone had a severe allergic reaction or psychotic episode after taking such stuff? Just think about the damage you may cause before you post your recommendations.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 11:46 AM

The nature of reality includes quantum non-locality which is outside space and time. This is the reality of quantum entanglement and spooky action at a distance.
Einstein couldn't accept a reality outside the parameters of space and time. Now we have to realize the reality of non-locality. HOW DOES ENTAGLEMENT ALLOW COMMUNICATION INSTANTLY WITHOUT THE SPEED LIMIT OF LIGHT?... It does it because there is no signal that travels a distance. To be outside of space and time means we must think outside of sophistry, philosophy and rationalism. Outside of space and time there is instant connection that is not a signal and goes no distance. For now I will this feature a 'feeling'. There are people who can not do this. They are condemned to ignore the reality of quantum nonlocality.

I used to envision a dimension that had adjacent access to any point in space. But nonlocality is really OUTSIDE space and time. My dimension idea was bogus.
I can accept a concept unrelated to space and time. My earliest poetry included the phrase 'a place outside of space and time'...so maybe that's why it comes as innate understanding much like experiencing timelessness. Accepting nonlocality as real - opens up the realm of collective unconscious, Gaia, consciousness of the universe, and spirituality.
Our brain uses non-locality, as near-death experiences demonstrate these impossible abilities. Mind over matter and placebo concepts are material explanations and sidetrack our true nonlocality experience. Artificial Intelligence is totally materialistic than the feelings of nonlocality and will always be a second-class consciousness.
Material science and ego divide us while nonlocality includes us with everything.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 12:18 PM

"I love you in a place,
Where there's no space or time"- Leon Russell
At least you steal from the good ones.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 12:19 PM

Mind over matter ...

If you don't mind, it doesn't matter.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 12:26 PM

If I was only 13 I wonder who was first. Besides stealing does not apply to the collective unconscious.

Some say we can not even speak about quantum non-locality.
I say we can but although real, it sounds ridiculous.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 12:28 PM

Somebody's messiah complex is surfacing again.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 01:12 PM

Speaking of messiah, my biggest idea is that the inflation theory of the early universe is totally made up and is wrong. My idea is that the density of the early universe was like that of a black hole in which not even light can escape. If I am right that means that an unimaginably long time existed before light could escape and reveal the earliest galaxies would appear very old as the Webb telescope reveals.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 01:19 PM

Not only that, Dave, he is recommending something that is illegal at least in some countries. The actual magic mushrooms themselves contain highly variable amounts of the substances that he's talking about. The clinical trials involving psilocybin do not involve feeding people with actual mushrooms. Not for the first time, he's coming out with a highly irresponsible recommendation.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 01:26 PM

Once again my take on the nonsense of inflation was written here in my cosmological rants almost ten years ago.

Meanwhile, almost a billion dollars was wasted trying to prove inflation existed. The Antarctic Observatory failed to prove inflation ever happened.

btw I have seen the spiral arms of an entire galaxy take a hexagonal shape. They are rare but remarkable. I have no idea what causes this phenomenon.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 02:11 PM

And this is keeping things simple because...

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jul 23 - 02:29 PM

Keeping it simple, he should have just ended that sentence after "I have no idea." Further qualification unnecessary. It must be the bloody mushrooms.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jul 23 - 07:33 AM

The unhappiest people do not learn or experience for themselves but worst of all want to discourage others from learning or experiencing.
I do recall the flavor of fresh Amazon Cubensis from 35 years ago. Not great but not nauseating. A great recipe with fresh garlic and barbecue sauce sounds good.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jul 23 - 09:11 AM

Tony Bennet was a master at every age.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 23 - 11:03 AM

The word for energy in Icelandic is Orca.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 23 - 06:17 PM

Chat GBT responses only...

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jul 23 - 07:32 PM

For my take that there is no inflation theory in reality the UNIVERSE WILL HAVE TO BE OLDER. How much older is a problem. At what density would the mass of the Universe have to be for how long before light could escape? If mass can not be created or destroyed the problem is easier than if matter were being created at the same time.
the Universe could be twice as old as we believed.

30 years ago we thought the Universe was 20 billion years old. With microwave background radiation, we made it 13.8 billion. Now the Webb shows the earliest galaxy as well formed as the Milky Way which is 13.6 billion years old. My bet is on 28 billion years.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jul 23 - 11:12 AM

Of course, there are people who believe half of what I am saying is possible. https://cosmosmagazine.com/space/astrophysics/universe-27-billion-years-old/#:~:text=By%20Evrim%20Yazgin,Bang%2013.8%20billion%2

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jul 23 - 12:06 PM

WHY KEEP IT SIMPLE?

Genius ideas usually start with a very simple perspective.
Relative time by Einstien started by picturing a clock face from a beam of light racing away from the clock. Gravity insights began by the mind experiment of an accelerating elevator.

Occam's Razor is a good indicator of keeping it simple.
Complexities will follow but beginnings are best kept simple.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 23 - 10:49 AM

The last third of this Edward R Murrow interview is excellent

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jul 23 - 02:32 PM

Yes Donuel. Keeping it simple is all about making things understandable to anyone. So far, on this thread, no one is any wiser about your theories. Sorry but, as I said before, you are unable to simplify your more esoteric ramblings. At least this threads keeps them away from the general public :-D

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Raggytash
Date: 27 Jul 23 - 05:49 PM

It would seem that is the effect of pyschotic drugs.

I've had the misfortune through my life to meet several people who used such substances. Frequently they have been formerly intelligent people who have become utter bores.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Jul 23 - 06:04 PM

In an idle and whimsical moment I did a bit of adding up until I got bored. I found that, of the last 200 posts to this thread, 101 were by Donuel. To put it as kindly as possible, there isn't actually a thread in this thread, if you see what I mean. It's all a bit random and disconnected really.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 07:18 AM

I did not expect understanding from the Titanic trio.
Nor do I expect them to understand Oppenheimer

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 08:16 AM

I did not expect understanding from the Titanic trio.

Well then Donuel. Keep it simple as the thread says. Or, more correctly, Keep It Simple Stupid. You know that there are at least 3 of us that have no idea what you are talking about. There are many more in the same boat and even more than that who do not care what you say or even read it. Does that not tell you that it must be you rather than everyone else? (Hint - refer to your post of 26 Jul 23 - 12:06 PM and use Ocham's Razor.) What is more likely? You have a communication problem or everyone else does. Think about it.

I fully understand that Oppenheimer is considered to be the father of the Atom Bomb. If he is one of your heroes then that says a lot. I will probably watch the film. Christopher Nolan is one of my favourite directors and anything with Cillian Murphy and Robert Downey Junior in must be worth a watch. Iron Man meets Peaky Blinders? :-D

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: Geoff Wallis
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 09:01 AM

Donuel wrote 'The word for energy in Icelandic is Orca.'

This is incorrect. The word for energy in Icelandic is orka.

English-Icelandic dictionary

The Icelandic word for the orca is háhyrningur.

Subject: RE: BS: KISS keep it simple
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Jul 23 - 09:25 AM

Hey, give the guy credit, he can misspell in at least two different languages.