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BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:49 PM

Exactly, mouse... There are alot of very extreme righties out there who get quite a bit of "comfort" (think treason here) from the Tea Party, Rush Limbaugh and FOX...

So yeah, they feel, just like the al qeada suicide bomber, that they are doing this because it's the "right" thing to do... I find it ingredulous that people will kill doctors for religious reasons??? Exactly what religion preaches killing for any reason???

b~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:34 PM

Bobert: You know, kinda like suicide bombers...

Or people who kill abortion providers.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 07:54 PM

The problem isn't as much whether or not the Tea Party is engaging in terrorism as much as they are giving comfort to the Tim McVeigh's within our society... But equally troubling is that the government is letting them get away with stuff that, frankly, the anti-war demonstrators during the mad-dash-to-Iraq would have been busted for...

I am still amazed that a guy could show up at a rally where the president was going to speek with a gun strapped to his leg and a sign making references to killing folks... I mean, had I done that outside a Bush rally, I would more than likely been shot dead... Yet this guy becomes a hero???

It's this kinda stuff that sends a clear message to the Tim McVeigh's of the world that as long as yer on the side of the righties that anything goes and even if you do get caught, in lots of folks eyes you will always be a hero... You know, kinda like suicide bombers...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 06:50 PM

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T - PM
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 03:10 PM

""When a member of one organization bites off the finger of a member of another organization, it should be obvious which organization is more terrorist like?

That is the purpose. Which is the terrorist organization? Which is the violent organization?
""    Sawzaw


Well, to me there is another question to be answered first.

A verbal exchange of views took place, and then one party escalated the situation into physical violence.

Was that party the one you describe as a terrorist?........NO!.......See below.

""Rice told investigators he felt threatened by the man and punched him in the nose, A fight ensued, during which part of Rice's finger was bitten off,""

""Rice said in a phone interview Thursday. "I felt like I had no choice other than to defend myself.""

Maybe the man he punched felt even more threatened and also felt that he had no choice but to defend himself.

You make a very poor case for calling the man who first offered violence a victim, and the man he assaulted a terrorist.

I think you might need to re-examine your argument.

Don T.

I have moved the above up because Sawzaw, true to form, upon realising that he had no credible answer, simply affected not to notice it.

Your comments SoreJaw?

Don T.

PS perhaps a clone would oblige and get rid of the flawed version above. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 06:45 PM

"""I'll repeat: [over and over and over...] Let the Tea Party run a candidate."

Where is Code Pink's candidate?
""

Probably still got his nose in plaster.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 06:43 PM

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T - PM
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 03:10 PM

""When a member of one organization bites off the finger of a member of another organization, it should be obvious which organization is more terrorist like?

That is the purpose. Which is the terrorist organization? Which is the violent organization?""


Well, to me there is another question to be answered first.

A verbal exchange of views took place, and then one party escalated the situation into physical violence.

Was that party the one you describe as a terrorist?........NO!.......See below.

""Rice told investigators he felt threatened by the man and punched him in the nose, A fight ensued, during which part of Rice's finger was bitten off,""

""Rice said in a phone interview Thursday. "I felt like I had no choice other than to defend myself.""

Maybe the man he punched felt even more threatened and also felt that he had no choice but to defend himself.

You make a very poor case for calling the man who first offered violence a victim, and the man he assaulted a terrorist.

I think you might n4eed to re-examine your argument.

Don T.

I have moved the above up because Sawzaw, true to form, upon realising that he had no credible answer, simply affected not to notice it.

Your omments SoreJaw?

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stringsinger
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 04:07 PM

Bill Ayers stated purpose was not to hurt people. Just buildings.
Tim McVeigh didn't care if he did kill people.

The issue is whether the Tea Party is a terrorist organization. I don't think the Tea Party is that cohesive. It doesn't really have a stated purpose but is a reactionary organization
which doesn't know how to channel their anger toward any constructive end.

There is a faction in the Tea Party that uses violent language and metaphors to inflame
their crowd. Obama never did this. You didn't see anyone packing heat at an Obama rally unless they wanted to do the unthinkable.

Palin is "locked and loaded" and ready to inflame.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stringsinger
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 03:51 PM

No, BB, that's not factual. "Baby Killing" is propagandizing for your position by introducing an inflammatory title. "Pro-life" or "Anti-Choice" doesn't carry the obvious bias that you suggest. "Pro-Live Republicans" or "Anti-Choice Republicans" state a position without
using language to incite violence. Yes, "Baby Killing" does incite violence as recent
events by Hill and his ilk suggest.

That is terrorism.

There are factions of the "Tea Party" movement that support militias and intimidating gun-toters who frequent political rallies. These are terrorists by the classic definition, those
who intimidate for political means.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 03:51 PM

"Now Tia is projecting her bigotry on others."

There is more funny in that line than you can possibly imagine.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 03:34 PM

I notice that some lefties on here like to find a similarity to the 'baggers' and Timothy McVeigh....ummm pardon me??..I would liken McVeigh more to Bill Ayers (Obama's buddy)...both were planning to blow up Federal buildings, or did. I think there is a bit of a double standard going on, that as Bruce so eloquently posted, "Defending the Tea Party to its opponents is like explaining Bob Dylan to his critics: their ears don't hear what your heart understands."

Now back to the 'roots' of things, their ears don't hear what your heart understands ........

AND they still DON'T GET IT!

gFs


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 11:12 AM

My post about Tea Party people being better educated than the general public seems to have disappeared.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 09:32 AM

"I'll repeat: [over and over and over...] Let the Tea Party run a candidate."

Where is Code Pink's candidate?

Where is Communist Party's candidate?

The Party in TEA Party refers to the Boston Tea Party which did not have a candidate either.

And I haven't heard any tea partiers use incendiary hateful language like "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 09:26 AM

Tea Party Not Filled with Nuts
Chris Core, Commentator

http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=1395962&nid=524


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 09:10 AM

"Whether you agree with {the whites} or not, they have the right to bitch about {the blacks}"

Now Tia is projecting her bigotry on others.

Protesters of a certain race are to be treated differently than proteseter of another race.

The things they say are to be intertereted in dirrerent ways.

The same standard of judgment does not apply to people of two different races.

And Bobert gives his standard boilerplate rant against polls and stats.

The one he locks of in a drawer somewhere when he wants to use stats or polls as proof of something himself.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:59 AM

Greg F.

I will apologize.

"If you'd bother to read the postings, you'd find that nowhere in this thread did I accuse the TeaBaggers of anything whatsoever!

IN THIS THREAD you have not accused Tea Party members of anything.

Your use of Teabaggers, which I have previously stated as offensive ( in several threads) let me think that some posts here were yours, and they were not.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:52 AM

...I notice YOU had no problem stating that "Tea Party Members" did specific acts...

Beardie, pull your head out of your ass. One more time.

You're making things up out of whole cloth- like your BuShite buddies & your pet hate-speech radio shock-jocks.

If you'd bother to read the postings, you'd find that nowhere in this thread did I accuse the TeaBaggers of anything whatsoever!

As usual, bullshit from a serial bullshitter.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:26 AM

"The Tea Party: A Heartfelt Hymn of American Redemption
by Rep. Thaddeus G. McCotter (R-MI)

Defending the Tea Party to its opponents is like explaining Bob Dylan to his critics: their ears don't hear what your heart understands.

For a year now, Tea Partiers have peaceably assembled and petitioned government for the redress of grievances; and, for a year now, the political class has feared, reviled and defied them.

In sum, Washington power-brokers and special interests treat the Tea Party movement as a political bacillus to be quarantined until high priced pollsters, pundits and consultants clad in Gucci lab coats can find a vaccine. In truth, the Tea Party movement is a soulful, spontaneous call for the restoration of citizens' God-given rights and a revitalization of our representative institutions so that "We the People" can preserve our cherished way of life. Thus, a Tea Party protest is a hymn of American redemption, one which to truly be heard must be felt in one's heart.

Indeed, amid the folksy din of organic theatrics, at its principled core the Tea Parties constitutes an earnest, spontaneous, decentralized political movement arising from diverse grassroots centers of gravity. Bonded by a shared faith in their freedom and American Exceptionalism, the Tea Party's eclectic mix of Republicans, Independents, Libertarians and Democrats is deeply concerned about the challenges confronting this great nation we've inherited and must bequeath to our children. Consequently, as patriots rather than materialists, Tea Partiers measure their loss of sovereignty by the growth of big government's insane, unsustainable spending, which edges us further toward fiscal implosion and exacerbates the disorder within our troubled republic.

Unlike the political class whose power, privilege and wealth increases commensurately with the expansion of the state, Tea Partiers know their own liberty, sovereignty, security, prosperity and self-evident truths are eroded by big government. Therefore, Tea Partiers realize the biggest special interest is big government, and it is dismissive and disdainful of their aspirations for responsive democracy and limited government.

Shut out and shunned, to be heard the Tea Partiers have guilelessly taken to the public square and, yes, foppishly adopted the themes and symbols of our nation's Founding generation (who themselves always considered the American Revolution a restoration of their traditional rights that had been usurped by an arbitrary and capricious king). Of course, the Tea Partiers' appearance, ingenuousness and patriotism render them ready fodder for elitists' snooty slurs and worse.

Still, Tea Partiers persevere in their entrepreneurial idealism to engage the government created to ensure – not infringe – their freedom. Braced by their belief in America's promise, possibilities and, above all, her people, the undaunted Tea Partiers' continue to utter the politically incorrect heresy that true human progress is not measured by the enlargement of bureaucracy and big government; it is measured in the expansion of liberty and self-government. And, though never pitch perfect, they voice the broader public's desire to stanch big government's march to omnipotence, not through a radical revolution, but through the orderly restoration of our God-given rights; the revitalization of our representative institutions; and, thereby, the preservation of our cherished way of life for future generations of free Americans.

So ignore the political class' cat-calls from the cheap seats and rock on, Tea Partiers. Let the Liberty Bell chime in time with your off-beat songs of freedom. One day, your servant government will hear and heed you; and our free republic will applaud and appreciate your heartfelt hymn of American redemption."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:21 AM

Call in polls are even more bogus than the ones that are designed to elicit a specfic result...

I'll repeat: Let the Tea Party run a candidate...

I mean, it's easy to say moronish things such as "I want my country back" and "I want my freedom"... What in the hell do either of those statement actually mean???

Well, I'll tell ya' what they mean... Absolutely nothing... Those aren't policy posotions... They are pep rally stuff... Might of fact, with all the press that these Tea Party people have gotten I don't recall one single policy position that these folks have put forward??? Not one... Any of you righties here know of any???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:05 AM

Greg F,

I posted a FACT of something happening- more than YOU have with your accusations against Tea Party members. I left the CONCLUSION as to WHO did it to be determined by investigation. Did the post I made say anything about the political side of the attacker????



I notice YOU had no problem stating that "Tea Party Members" did specific acts. Where is the evidence they were members? Hell, where is the evidence other than the statments of those out to smear them that it even happened?

Another example of double standards- since you do not apply that standard to what YOU have posted, to ask me to apply it to mine is bigotry, bias, and prejudice.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 02:57 AM

TIA, I was listening to the radio, today, and they wanted people to call in who happen to go down to a rally, and just report in, on what they saw. the participants we of a wide spectrum, and quite a bit of diversity. I don't think this is a black/white issue.. Though the liberal left like to portray it as anything, that it is not.

recent polls find the majority of people AGREE more on the policies the baggers say they stand for, than Obama. The liberal left is in the minority,(on the policy issue)..and the baggers don't like the way this latest health care bill was rammed through, and feel that the federal government is passing stuff, against the will of the majority og people.

That's the stuff I hear, and you know what??...some of that is quite true.....

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 02:38 AM

"They are just pissed off {white} taxpayers who don't want to be gouged beyond control, to pay for the {black} people who have a disproportionate sense of entitlement!

Whether you agree with {the whites} or not, they have the right to bitch about {the blacks}...Jeez, look at all the bitching that goes on here!..You bitch, they bitch"

Not sayin' that GfS is espousing this (really), but this is what it's truly about.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 01:59 AM

200!..Nope the baggers are not a terrorist group..that is silly! They are just pissed off taxpayers who don't want to be gouged beyond control, to pay for the people who have a disproportionate sense of entitlement!

Whether you agree with them or not, they have the right to bitch about it...Jeez, look at all the bitching that goes on here!..You bitch, they bitch......I think peace, and contentment is better for a musical mind..however turmoil often presses the best, out of us composers!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 01:31 AM

Bobert? Racist? Dude, I'd love to see things from your perspective, but I just can't shove my head THAT far up my ass.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 01:22 AM

"Sawz thinks they would win over Obmaa"

Bobert is trying to project the results of a poll on me the same way he projects his own hatred and racism on others.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 01:17 AM

Yes Mouse, and if you look you will see a satire of Obama from the same guy but it does not seem as mean spirited to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 10:03 PM

From the NPR ombudsman: But if NPR continues using Fiore, it should quickly find a cartoonist to counter his decidedly liberal take. Critics are right to take NPR to task for only representing one side using such a strong visual medium as an animated cartoon with sound and text.

When has FOX ever said anything like this about itself? The idea (put forward on this very website) of NPR being a shill of the "far left" is risible.

Thanks for the link, Sawz.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 09:51 PM

Is NPR Fair?


....there are problems with the Tea Bag animation. Chief among them is it doesn't fit with NPR values, one of which is a belief in civility and civil discourse.

Fiore is talented, but this cartoon is just a mean-spirited attack on people who think differently than he does and doesn't broaden the debate. It engages in the same kind of name-calling the cartoon supposedly mocks...

...The 90-second animation, which creator Mark Fiore calls satire, rather summarily dismisses participants in the Tea Party movement as inarticulate, paranoid bumblers. The video "teaches" the viewer to speak conversational "tea bag."...
Do you believe in civility and civil discourse or mean-spirited attacks on people who think differently than you do?

I am siding with NPR on this one.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 08:34 PM

My deeepest hope is that the Tea Party runs a candidate for president since Sawz thinks they would win over Obmaa... Please, Lord, let the Tea Party put forth a candidiate!!! I am being very serious here...

The problem with the Tea Party is that they are a bunch of crybabies that have little or no understanding of the real world... The moderates, who purdy much stay out of politics except at election time, are ceratinly going to find the debates between the Tea Party candidtae and Obama ver enlightening...

Here's the rub, folks...

The Tea Party folks are pissed off at the government but when it comes to ***their*** fucking Medicare or Social Security it's "Keep your hands off what's mine"... That is the Tea Party in a nutshell... They hate the government as long as the government is helping folks they disagree with but whejhn it comes to them persoanlly, they can't get enough government...

I say, "Screw 'um"... If they hate the government that much than I'd like to see them start a movement to turn down anything on the government's menu of services and/or entitlements!!!

Yeah, come on Tea Baggers... Put up ot shut up!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 06:51 PM

Is Facebook now a reliable source for real news? Do they have fact checkers? Do they compare independent sources? No? No? No?

This is somebody's say-so and has no more solidity than the used beer offered by a drunk behind the pub.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 06:26 PM

And you're posting this why, Brucie?

Are we supposed to all jump to the conclusion that this was done by "THE FAR LEFT"?

Jesus, Man, you've sunken to new lows (I'll admit, I didn't think it was possible)- your boy Rush would be proud of ya.

I doubt this was the first person to be beat on in the history of New Orleans-


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 04:58 PM

PHOTO RELEASED of GOP Official and Boyfriend Beaten Bloody
by Jim Hoft

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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 04:25 PM

sorry, that was me- no cookies on this loaner machine


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 04:24 PM

Donuel

I disagree with most of what you post, but welcome back.

Bypass, or just stents?


( 9 stents now, and an ICD)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 04:16 PM

Do that font again sawz and I will punch you in the nose.


After an absence of 4 months due to a near fatal attack, one person welcomed me back. For the rest of you, you can take your Indifference and smoke it. Indifference is a Burmese Indica \ Northern light Sativa blend.


Palin's Platoon and Beck's Brigade; only lefties may click here

btw since Beck has said many things regarding the bloody murder of progressives he now tries to mention Ghandi at least once every show.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 03:10 PM

""When a member of one organization bites off the finger of a member of another organization, it should be obvious which organization is more terrorist like?

That is the purpose. Which is the terrorist organization? Which is the violent organization?
""


Well, to me there is another question to be answered first.

A verbal exchange of views took place, and then one party escalated the situation into physical violence.

Was that party the one you describe as a terrorist?........NO!.......See below.

""Rice told investigators he felt threatened by the man and punched him in the nose, A fight ensued, during which part of Rice's finger was bitten off,""

""Rice said in a phone interview Thursday. "I felt like I had no choice other than to defend myself.""

Maybe the man he punched felt even more threatened and also felt that he had no choice but to defend himself.

You make a very poor case for calling the man who first offered violence a victim, and the man he assaulted a terrorist.

I think you might n4eed to re-examine your argument.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 11:19 AM

Tea Party 48% Obama 44%

On major issues, 48% of voters say that the average Tea Party member is closer to their views than President Barack Obama. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 44% hold the opposite view and believe the president's views are closer to their own.

Not surprisingly, Republicans overwhelmingly feel closer to the Tea Party and most Democrats say that their views are more like Obama's. Among voters not affiliated with either major political party, 50% say they're closer to the Tea Party while 38% side with the President.

The partisan divide is similar to that found in the President's Job Approval Ratings and on the Generic Congressional Ballot.

"Unaffiliated voters are continuing the pattern they established in 2006 and 2008 of opposing the party in power," notes Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports. In his new book, Scott makes the case that "the American people don't want to be governed from the left, the right, or the center. They want to govern themselves." In Search of Self-Governance has received positive reviews from across the political spectrum and is available at Rasmussen Reports and Amazon.com.

(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

Eighty-seven percent (87%) of those in the Political Class say their views are closer to the president. The Obama Administration has created a significantly larger government and political role in the economy.

Sixty-three percent (63%) of Mainstream Americans say their views are closer to the Tea Party.

Last week, Rasmussen Reports released data showing that 47% of voters felt closer to the views of Tea Party members than to Congress. Only 26% felt closer to Congress.

The new polling found that just 33% believe their views are closer to the average member of a Labor Union than to Congress. In fact, a plurality of voters were undecided when asked about that comparison. While 48% of Democrats said their own views were closer to the average union member, most Republicans and unaffiliated voters could not choose between the two.

In a head-to-head comparison, 45% felt closer to the average Tea Party Member while 35% felt closer to the average union member.

Fifty-three percent (53%) believe their views are closer to the average school teacher than to Congress. Teachers scored six points higher than the Tea Party members when compared to Congress.

In a head-to-head match-up, 47% said they felt closer to the average school teacher while 41% said they felt closer to the average Tea Party member. Once again, the results betray a heavy partisan difference. Democrats prefer the school teachers, Republicans are closer to the Tea Party, and unaffiliated voters are evenly divided.

Earlier polling found that just 16% of voters nationwide consider themselves part of the Tea Party Movement. However, views of the Tea Party remain more positive than negative among voters. Just 11% believe Congress is doing a good or an excellent job.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 01 Apr 10 - 01:49 AM

Don T.

When a member of one organization bites off the finger of a member of another organization, it should be obvious which organization is more terrorist like?

That is the purpose. Which is the terrorist organization? Which is the violent organization?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 07:25 PM

"Ten outings, and they won't even be able to write to their Congressman."


             Congressmen don't listen anyway.

    The Southern Poverty Law Center is another one.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 12:05 PM

Cool, Bobert!....Sing on..play on....point the way!!!
All this contrived crap HAS to be put in it's place...it's an exercise, in lameness...and all too luring!

Regards,
GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 08:00 AM

Yeah, GfS... And alot of us do use the stage as a forum to talk about stuff... I know I do and have had complaints from promoters for it becuase the Sawzes in the audience don't like it... But I don't go on and on... Just a little here and a little there...

Mah man, Sparky Rucker, now??? Different story... His motto is that "if yer gonna get the song yer gonna have to listen to the sermon"... lol... BTW, Sparky can sho nuff deliver a sermon, too...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 05:48 AM

Sorry, that was Rig.

Nevertheless, my comments re Sawzaw's lengthy cut 'n paste stand.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 05:39 AM

""Yes, Move.On is most definately a terrorist organization.""

This one puzzles me Sawzaw.

Do you actually believe that there is an organisation arranging to have its members stick a finger into the mouth of opposing protesters, and have it bitten off?

To what end?........Infect the enemy with HIV?..........Have them convicted of cannibalism?.......WHAT?

If that's terrorism, it seems strangely ineffective.

Ten outings, and they won't even be able to write to their Congressman.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 01:12 AM

All kidding aside........

Remember back in the 60's, the slogan and bumper sticker that said: "suppose the gave a war, and nobody came"

Perhaps we should not be recruited into somebody else's contrived cause, and these 'examples' of media hyped incidents, and or their interpretations.....fanned to bring civil unrest, and to suck everyone into it!

How widespread, and/or violent should it get, before those who got sucked into making it more than it is, get before we second think about promoting it???

We, who are musicians, should be on the side of peace, and use our instruments as weapons for peace, not for promoting causes that nobody is sure of the origins, or where it is leading the country to.

Peace, GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 01:01 AM

Don Firth: "If you squint a bit, a dachshund does look a bit like a mole. . . ."

GfS: last time you posted about small animals, you seemed to favor ferrets.........not so satisfying anymore??...Too small???

Winking!
GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 12:34 AM

If you squint a bit, a dachshund does look a bit like a mole. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 11:28 PM

Are Japanese whalers are a terrorist organization?


According to a report from the news agency EFE, yesterday three crewmembers of a Japanese whaling ship suffered injuries from corrosive acid thrown at them by protesters from the anti-whaling group, Sea Shepherd, in the waters off Antarctica. The environmentalist group, which has been dubbed by some a "terrorist organization," has been known to resort to militant tactics before in order to disrupt Japanese whaling vessels, such as lobbing stink-bombs and shining laser beams, but acid may be the most dangerous tool in their arsenal. While Sea Shepherd justifies its tactics as a way help end the practice of whaling, some are wondering if maybe they have gone too far.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 10:53 PM

Is the SEIU a terrorist Organization??

African American man beaten by SEIU Union Thugs in St. Louis at townhall protest

Left wing racial hatred and violence at it's ugliest.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 10:49 PM

The tea party was established by Dick Army and his lobbying group to serve as a diversion from recent Republican sins and promote the same old interests of the extremely wealthy. Steer the anger and outrage of the common man victims of Wall Street crimes and you will secure votes of the unwashed public for the interests of Wall St.

View it as a stage play and it makes more sense.

Act one - the set up and the theft
Act two - Hiding in plain sight while others fight
Act three - The great irony.


We are currently in Act 2 which is my favorite. It involves steering the anger of the common man away from the robbers and to direct their wrath at the goverment, no matter how violent or chaotic such a campaign will become, is crucial for the saftey of the 13 banks, the 13 bankers and 11 familes who own them. These families will do anything to avoid the personal blowback following the greatest deliberate financial theft in recorded history. Just like a desperate bank robber, but on a monumental scale, they will bribe, they will take hostages, they will make demands, they will create diversions, they will murder (by proxy).

Steering the outrage of reasonable people as well as the blind thrashing by the irrational angry victims of the God and guns crowd, is the chief concern of well to do bank robbers. Calling the goverment totalitarian, fascist or communist is only half of the diversion.

The savagery committed by men with such clean uncalloused hands is felt in ; every state capitol, every public classroom, in every small business, in every manufacturing plant, in every forclosure, in every lost job and in every man woman and child who do not have $400 million dollars to cushion their fall.

It reminds me of how the Pope is not concerned by the deaf children who were raped by clergy , but was only concerned of how the church may remain safe and secure and how to harbor the pedergasts safely away from controversy.

The final act of this evil financial play will involve the evil that is done after robbery in Act 1, after the diversions and fighting in the streets in act two. It is about the tragedy that tears apart every family and every nation while the robbers come out of hiding. It concludes with the irony that the victims of the great theft were unable to keep their eyes on the ball, to see who the real villains were, and end up blindly killing each other. In the end we see the victims serving the very people who destroyed their life.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 10:29 PM

"Tea Party people didn't give a flying fuck about taxes when George Bush was the president."

But now that Obama is jacking them up, they do give a flying fuck.

Sounds logical to me.

Oh and the $400 dollar tax break? How does that stack up against the $600 rebate from GWB?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Alice
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 10:17 PM

Oh, now I have a new favorite Tea Party protest sign.

These are like the signs you see at Engrish.com.


"Remember descent the highest form of patriotic"


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