BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed

Subject: BS: 9/11 Solved
From: GUEST,Sherlock
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 11:57 PM

WASHINGTON -- Suspected 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confessed to the beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl and a central role in 30 other attacks and plots in the U.S. and worldwide that killed thousands of victims, said a revised transcript released Thursday by the U.S. military....

"I was responsible for the 9/11 operation from A to Z," Mohammed said in a statement read Saturday during a Combatant Status Review Tribunal at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Mohammed's confession was read by a member of the U.S. military who is serving as his personal representative....

....In laying out his role in 31 attacks, his words drew al-Qaida closer to plots of the early 1990s than the group has previously been linked, including the 1993 World Trade Center truck bombing in which six people died....

....In listing the 28 attacks he planned and another three he supported, Mohammed said he tried to kill international leaders including Pope John Paul II, President Clinton and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf....

He said he planned the 2002 bombing of a Kenya beach resort frequented by Israelis and the failed missile attack on an Israeli passenger jet after it took off from Mombasa, Kenya.

He also said he was responsible for the bombing of a nightclub in Bali, Indonesia. In 2002, 202 were killed when two nightclubs there were bombed.

Other plots he said he was responsible for included planned attacks against the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Empire State Building and New York Stock Exchange in New York City, the Panama Canal, and Big Ben and Heathrow Airport in London -- none of which happened.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-us-terrorist-confession,1,3180816.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=tr

Okay, the guy confessed. Sona-of-a-bitch is probably a global-warming-denier, too. Now if any of you accuse Bush of 9/11, he can cut off your head with his blessed right hand.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Barry Finn
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 01:17 AM

Sounds like a regular 'Pretty Boy Floyd'. I'll bet he's wanted in Canada too, for whatever's not yet been sussed out.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Peace
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 01:44 AM

Well, we now know who did the Brinks' job and the Great Train Robbery. Nice to clear so many cases at the same time. But, I'll not believe him until he admits to turning Monica (on behalf of the Republican Party) to compromise Clinton and lead to the impeachment. Then it will ALL fit together and there'll be need to wonder any longer.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: John O'L
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 02:08 AM

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed ran over my dog too. I notice he chose not to admit to that.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: dianavan
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 02:09 AM

I guess if I had been held captive without charge and tortured by the U.S., I'd confess to EVERYTHING too.

Now that Clinton, Carter and the Pope have been included in this fiendish plot, I suppose all the Democrats will suddenly back Bush and his war on terror. Next we'll hear he plotted to assassinate David Suzuki, too.

If the U.S. had him in custody for so long, why did it take all this time to disclose the information to the public. Did he blurt it out all at once or chapter by chapter over a number of years?

Last, but not least, why should we believe any of this? He hasn't even been charged.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 02:24 AM

There is absolutely no way of knowing whether any of this alleged admission is true or not.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: dianavan
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 02:37 AM

If you want to see something really frightening, google his image and look at the before and after pictures.

The look in his eyes is sickening. If this is the result of the waterboard, the practice needs to stop immediately. Nothing that is said under torture can be believed, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:52 AM

Well, it's sad...because as Richard says, there is simply no way of knowing whether it's a wholly true confession, a partially true confession, or a completely untrue confession. It raises further questions and possibilities, that's all.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 05:32 AM

The sad thing is that none of this 'confession' could be admitted in a real Court of Law because of the way that even that treatment which is admitted occurred to him. Another nail in the coffin of 'Western Democracy' by those allegedly sworn to defend it.

But georgie Boy will have his 'hanging' - right after the 'fair trial'...

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 06:25 AM

Too bad that those here have no idea what they are talking about. The information from him was corrolated with the files on computers captured at the same time, other sources, other prisoners, etc.

If you don't want to believe it, feel free. But I don't believe what YOU are stating, so it must be of no significance.

"Other plots he said he was responsible for included planned attacks against the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Empire State Building and New York Stock Exchange in New York City, the Panama Canal, and Big Ben and Heathrow Airport in London -- none of which happened."


So, you all now admit that Bush is doing a far better job stopping terrorist attacks than Clinton did? Planned attacks that were not carried out- sounds like Bush is doing the right thing.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 06:31 AM

You people are unbelievable.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 06:32 AM

Brilliant


If you can't bring Ossama to the mountain
bring the mountain to Mohammed

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 06:39 AM

CIA playbook Chapter 12... "When all else fails, go with the lone gunman."

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confess
From: number 6
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 07:09 AM

If he was tried in a 'real court of law' he'd probably be a free man now .... due to some technicality.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 08:10 AM

He boasted of his involvement in most of these murders before he was even captured.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confess
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 08:18 AM

Even Al-Qaida members who HAVE been legitimately convicted say that he's a blowhard. I think he has blood on his hands, yes -- but not as much as he would like us to think. Besides, if the US thinks that it has the Mastermind, why would it continue looking?

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 08:40 AM

OK, WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY IS SUBVERSSIVE, AND WHILE TRUE, IS ONLY A MINISCULE PART OF THE ENTIRE COMPLEX SITUATION.



The muslim brotherhood from Egypt makes American neo fascists look like pansy posers in comparison.

The muslim brotherhood are some bad MFs and spawned Al Qida.

The Taliban oppresses women and non belivers.

HOWEVER

The American Security State (formerly known as the military Industrial complex in charge of the perpetual cold war) and its international policy of perpetual war
have out killed, out tortured, out nuked with over 100 atmospheric and ocean nuclear explosions, out polluted, out terrorized, out hijacked entire nations and out sourced wars on every continent.

To America's credit...
The US oppresses women and non believers much less harshly than the Taliban.

The American Civil war still has open wounds that have yet to heal over.

The American - middle east wars will probably heal over in less than 1,500 years. Unless someone releases nuclear and germ warfare.


It will take a total authoritarian state in America to hold on to a peretual war. When true fascism comes to America you will recognize it.
IT will be invisible but it will be wrapped in a flag with a cross on top.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confess
From: number 6
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 08:51 AM

Geeez.





Whew.





after that post ... think I'll head off to O'Leary's pup and and down a few beers.


biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confess
From: number 6
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 08:52 AM

I meant O'Leary's pub ...... Donuel has got me all fendangled.


biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confess
From: bobad
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 08:53 AM

Wait for me biLL.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 09:27 AM

I think we are all wrapped in a flag of one sort or another. Some people wrap themselves in the flag of their country and follow its doctrine. Others wrap themselves in the flag of their own beliefs and follow that dogma no matter what.

I can only guess, and that is what all of us are doing, is that this guy had some involvement. He has bloated his own self-importance, just like those of us who post their opinions do.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 09:29 AM

Too true, Ron.

8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 10:58 AM

It is just too pat, too neat. It makes far more sense to me that, *knowing* that his freedom and his very life are all but over, the man is confessing to any and all atrocities in the hope and belief that investigations will end and that others will go free.

What has he to lose? We would do no less.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 11:22 AM

People who post thier opinion are bloating their own self importence.....

And that goes for everyone just like Ron said.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Peace
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 11:28 AM

So, does this mean that Lee Harvey Oswald is innocent? Stay tuned . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 11:41 AM

The CIA has bragged that they used their most powerful interrogation techniques on this evil schlump Khalid.

What if they used those same techniques on ....lets say....
Rumsfeld?

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confess
From: number 6
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 11:58 AM

I thinq ..I'll go back down to O'Leary's ... *hiccup*

So come with me and I will treat you decent
I will sit you down and I will fill yer can
and along the street, all the friends I meet say:
"there goes Muldoon, he's a solid man"

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 12:03 PM

"People who post thier opinion are bloating their own self importence..."

That's one way to look at it. Another way is to recognize that having and venturing opinions are an affirmation of kinship; there is always a certain amount of risk involved but each of us is also offering the essence of oneself.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Amos
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 12:08 PM

Assume for a moment that Khalid was the primary or nearly the primary planner, under the leadership of Osama bin Laden, for the many things he cited.

I would emphasize that none of these schemes, the real source of intent to harm the United States that appeared as a nightmare on the morning of September 11, 2001, involved any part of the Baath party or Iraq military or intell forces. This is the difference between a correct target and a wrong target. When you pursue a wrong target you get more complication, less understanding, undesired results and entangling consequences.

I am glad this man was captured, and I hope he has been thoroughly debreifed by people who know how to handle such intell. I know that may sound naive and simplistic. But that's me.


A

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 12:09 PM

Ron is a decent fellow, methinks he did not say what he thought he meant.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Wolfgang
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 12:22 PM

The core of the confession sounds right to me, but I wouldn't believe many details (Pearl, for instance), because he personally can loose nothing by confessing to more murders and planned murders but his organisation and others not caught yet can win.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: GUEST,Sherlock
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 12:50 PM

I'd like to know why they left out the bit about Khalid getting Cheney to order NORAD to stand down. S.O.B. must have held a gun to our dear vice-president's head to get him to do that. And the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. The head of the FBI in NYC knew of the preparations for the attack and gave the "terror cell" live explosives to use in the "sting" operation. When he was told the terrorists were about to wire the bomb and drive the van to the WTC, he ordered the "drill" to go ahead...with live explosives. That S.O.B. Khalid struck again. He made monkeys out of Cheney and the FBI damn him.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confess
From: pdq
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 01:12 PM

It's just been revealed that Khalid is the one who gave Clinton a blow job, not Lewinsky.   

Fortunately for humanity, Clinton gave it back.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 01:23 PM

He did a bunch of it, whether he did all of it or not. He may or may not be trying to deflect us from looking for others....I have no way of knowing.

He states clearly that he considers himself to be "the enemy of America".....unfortunately, there are now a few million more with the same attitude.

It ain't gonna be fun.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 01:40 PM

BB, I am simply not interested in trying to prove who has fought terrorism better...Clinton or Bush. ;-) I believe they are both themselves greater sponsors of terrorism than those they are fighting against, since they have both been in command of the world's # 1 terrorist administration over the last 15 years.

That is, of course, just one person's viewpoint...

We all talk here because we like to. It's as simple as that. It keeps our busy little minds occupied. If we weren't talking here we'd be engaging in some other habitual activity like drinking, having a coffee at the local coffee shop, watching TV, fighting with our marriage partners, yelling at the kids, manicuring the lawn and garden...whatever.

It's obviously of little bloody importance in the greater scheme of things what ANY of us has to say here, and don't I know it!...but we all like to do it, okay? It therefore IS its own justification. People complain about others who do it only when they don't agree with those others. As such, they'd be just as well off to complain about themselves doing it, wouldn't they? Self-importance and pomposity here is not limited to only those you happen to disagree with.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 01:48 PM

LH,

"We all talk here because we like to. It's as simple as that. It keeps our busy little minds occupied. If we weren't talking here we'd be engaging in some other habitual activity like drinking, having a coffee at the local coffee shop, watching TV, fighting with our marriage partners, yelling at the kids, manicuring the lawn and garden...whatever.

It's obviously of little bloody importance in the greater scheme of things what ANY of us has to say here, and don't I know it!...but we all like to do it, okay? It therefore IS its own justification. People complain about others who do it only when they don't agree with those others. As such, they'd be just as well off to complain about themselves doing it, wouldn't they? Self-importance and pomposity here is not limited to only those you happen to disagree with. "


No arguement. Can you give any example of where *I* have ever disagreed with your present comment?   8-{E

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 01:51 PM

Nope. (grin)

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 02:30 PM

I understand that he now has confessed to having kidnapped the Lindburg baby...

What next???

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:01 PM

"Another way is to recognize that having and venturing opinions are an affirmation of kinship; there is always a certain amount of risk involved but each of us is also offering the essence of oneself. "

There is a lot of truth in that. It can be an affirmation of kinship, but it is also a great way to build walls. Sometimes that is the reason for venturing opinions.

Look at the posts here. Sherlock seems to know all the facts, at least the ones he or she chooses to recognize, and takes comfort in sharing them. It sets him or her appart and then can join with others who feel similar. It doesn't make them right, but they find solace in others who walk a different path.

Hate groups tend to do the same.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:06 PM

Interesting insights there, Ron. I would tend to agree with what you say. People venture opinions for psychological reasons such as those you have suggested. They are indeed offering the essence of themselves. Doing so always involves some risk (of rejection), but it also provides a form of personal satisfaction that may be irresistible, despite the risk.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Peace
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:06 PM

So do religions. And folk festivals. And rock concerts.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:12 PM

Actually, everything that people really like to do is a process of offering up the essence of themselves.

What people really hate is when they are forced by others or by circumstances to do things which do NOT offer up the essence of themselves. That's why I didn't like going to school, for instance, and it's why a lot of people complain bitterly about their job or their boss.

Ron, is not any political propaganda team in any hostile controversy between groups or nations in some sense a "hate group"?

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:22 PM

"Ron, is not any political propaganda team in any hostile controversy between groups or nations in some sense a "hate group"? "

You can stretch it to fit that definition I suppose, but if you get to the core of the issue hate does not have to be involved. I am convinced that our modern conflicts are impacted by rhetoric and a stubborness to reason and see other opinions.

It comes down to individual choices to seek out group approval and community.

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Peace
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:32 PM

But what if the group or community are wrong? (Or right?)

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confess
From: number 6
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 04:17 PM

"So do religions. And folk festivals. And rock concerts."

And don't forget picnics.





picnic ... interesting word?


biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 04:17 PM

That possibility, Peace, has always disturbed me. *What if* the Rigid Right are correct? There are a number of people I love who fit that description- and I *think* they are wrong in those opinions and I *think* I - and a great number of people whose thought processes I respect and value - are correct. But what if I am wrong?

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Peace
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 04:38 PM

Yeah. There's that, Ebbie. And of course, what if the one lunatic you know has a handle on it and the whole rest of the world is wrong?

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: GUEST,Ignoramus
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 04:47 PM

Who's David Suzuki?

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: GUEST,Ignoramus
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 04:48 PM

What's a picnic?

Subject: RE: BS: 9/11 Solved-Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confessed
From: Peace
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 04:49 PM

Canuck who has been very outspoken as an environmentalist. Brilliant at explaining complex scientific issues in terms/ways that clods like me can understand. Well respected writer and TV guy.