BS: Homs horror (Syria, 2012)

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Mar 12 - 02:58 PM

And... you are still talking of "sniper bullets" supplied by Britain.
I have no evidence of any such.
Have you?

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 09 Mar 12 - 02:46 AM

And still no withdrawing of the suggestion to supply equipment to quash the protests - which will stand as long as you are a member of this forum.
Wierdie
You have statements of my position on every one of the issues you have named - they have been there since I participated in the discussions and you HAVE TOTALLY FAILED TO FIND ONE WORD TO THE CONTRARY
I have neither the time nor the inclintion to reiterate those statements to a pair of serial liars and apologists for the arming of terrorist regimes, and I don't intend to here.
At least the gun-thug had the good sense to slither off when his limited imagination ran out of obscene abuse - unless you have any evidence to prove your 'case' I suggest you pair do the same
Have a nice day y'all

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 09 Mar 12 - 02:56 AM

Jim, I do not lie.
You claimed that Britain supplied weapons to Syria.
That was not true.
You are still claiming sniper bullets were supplied in the complete absence of the slightest scrap of any evidence.
Or have you found some.

You have filled this thread with irrelevant condemnations of Britain.
Irrelevant because Britain is not responsible for a single death in Syria.

Normally vociferous in condemnation of acts of inhumanity, you are almost silent on this, the worst for decades.
No real compassion.
Just pushing a political agenda.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 09 Mar 12 - 06:45 AM

Today.

Russia said it could not back a new UN draft resolution on Syria as it was "unbalanced".

The draft resolution demands the Syrian government "immediately" ends violence while calling on opposition groups to "refrain from all violence"

Russia and China have jointly vetoed two previous UN Security Council drafts.

Does anyone think they are right?

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 09 Mar 12 - 06:58 AM

"You claimed that Britain supplied weapons to Syria."
No Keith - you claimed they were sniper bullets
"That would be for the sniper rifles Jim."
Now go and screw yourself, or each other, if that turns you on
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 09 Mar 12 - 07:28 AM

You. 6.01AM 13thFeb
"These "atrocities committed by the regime in Syria," are being committed with weapons sold to Syria by Britain "
"You have been shown what damage is being done to civilians by these weapons yet you have not uttered one word of condemnation on their being supplied by our government "

You. 2.24AM 14th Feb
"When it is pointed out to you that Britain also sold weapons to that dictator(Assad), this time to be used on civilians - you squeal"

If you are using me to support your sniper bullets claim, you are lost.
I keep telling you I have no knowledge of sniper bullets being supplied, and do not believe any ammunition was supplied.
AND NO WEAPONS SUPPLIED TO SYRIA BY BRITAIN AT ALL!
IT IS MADE UP.
A LIE JIM.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 09 Mar 12 - 01:42 PM

"I keep telling you I have no knowledge of sniper bullets being supplied,"
Then why did you claim that is what Britain sold to Assad - one more time?
"That would be for the sniper rifles Jim."
Why did your thuggish friend accept your opinion that they were sniper bullets?
"Guess what "Jim Lad" - Snipers have to practice - they do rather a lot of it."
Why did you and your fick friend attempt to play down the size of the shipment as only "£30,000 worth"?
Why have you both claimed that the order for ammunition was licenced but never dispatched - without proof of course?
And why have you continued to claim despite you having acknowledged it and the documented evidence, that the order does not exist?
I would be extremely careful not to contradict Billy the Kid - he has a weapon and he's not afraid to use it
"Not when it comes to the Steyr-Mannlicher SSG69 Christmas I own one"
http://www.steyrarms.com/products/sporting-rifles/steyr-ssg-69/
So you appear to be left with only one alternative on this thread - that is to urge the British Government to take up your proposal to provide Assad with only "riot control equipment" in the hope that they will not sell them heavy weaponry (oh, and in the hope that they will not arrest, imprison and torture those demonstrators immobilised by that equipment)
So you see - I don't need your support for he sniper bullets - you've already given it.
Even if you hadn't, and even if they were not sniper bullets- it doesn't really matter - the British Government should never have issued a licence to sell either arms or equipment to a regime such as Syria
So what exactly have I made up - the shipment exists and is documented - Britain supplied similar regimes with weapons and equipment (also documented) - Britain continues to sell weapons to countries with similar track records (that nice Mr Cable said so - and he doesn't tell lies, does he).
So what is there for to have made up - it's all there
Have a nice evening
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 09 Mar 12 - 02:28 PM

I have explained that mistake many times.
I will repeat the posts again if you have really forgotten.

A licence was issued years ago for a small amount of ammunition, but Britain does not make ammunition for Syria's (Russian) weapons.
The licence was revoked and I do not believe that any was supplied.

Britain supplied no weapons to Syria.

What have I stated that is untrue?

(The amount was very small for an army the size of Syria's)

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 09 Mar 12 - 03:02 PM

"What have I stated that is untrue?" Britain supplies small missiles that kill people to a regime that is in the process of slaughtering thousands - what have I said that was untrue - either here or in my last post? Why do you continue to propose that the same regime be sold riot control equipment? "The licence was revoked and I do not believe that any was supplied. " Can you show me the evidence for either of those claims - especially as you have been denying the existence of the shipment for a large part of this thread? And even so BRITAIN SHOULD NEVER HAVE SOLD ANY EQUIMENT TO A REGIME THAT ARRESTS< IMPRISONS WITHOUT TRIAL AND TORTURES ITS OWN PEOPLE Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 10 Mar 12 - 03:25 AM

I agree with that post Jim except-
it is misleading to classify bullets as weapons, and I only said that non-lethal was preferable to deadly weapons.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 08:31 AM

Today
One activist in Homs, Hadi Abdallah, told AFP the bodies of 26 children and 21 women were found, some with their throats slit and others bearing stab wounds.

Both the opposition Syrian Revolution General Commission (SRGC) and the Local Co-ordination Committees (LCC) put the toll at 45.

The SRGC said that some of the victims had been burned alive with heating fuel poured over them and others had their necks and limbs broken.

The regime confirmed the killings but blamed "terrorists."

Panorama, BBC1, tonight is about Syria.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 01:08 PM

The British Government has sold no weapons/arms to Syria.

There you go Christmas - prove that statement a lie.

If you cannot do that then come back and admit that your statement to the effect that people in Homs were being slaughtered by weapons supplied by the British is/was a complete and utter load of bullshit and completely without foundation.

Should be easy enough for you YES/NO??

I apologise that your little jibe about me talking about a particular firearm being only pub talk turned out to be wrong, but there again I tend to get my facts right and speak from experience or from having at least researched the subject under discussion.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 02:02 PM

"The British Government has sold no weapons/arms (verified by their own records)to Syria"
The British authorities issued a licence the selling of small missiles for killing people to the Syrian regime (sniper bullets according to you and your fick friend)
These could have been used against their own people or used in training the snipers who are now slaughtering Syrian people - but with their tradck record, pea-shooters would have been a no-no in order not to implicate Britain in the carrying out of war crimes.
So far you have
a Admitted this to be true.
b dismissed it as being too small an order to worry about
c Denied it
d Admitted it to be true again, but claimed without a shred of evidence that the licence was rescinded and the shipment was not sent (all without a shred of proof)
Where are we at the moment - did they, didn't they, was it, wasn't it?
A yes or no will suffice, but proof might be helpful.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 02:39 PM

Whoops -sticky keyboard again should, of course red
"The British Government has sold no weapons/arms )to Syria"
The British authorities issued a licence the selling of small missiles for killing people to the Syrian regime (verified by their own records) (sniper bullets according to you and your fick friend)
Sure that slip'll give you lots to talk about
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 04:35 PM

Sorry - didn't quite catch that; was that a yes or a no?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 04:41 PM

Everyone knows what a bullet is Jim.
If you have to call them "small missiles for killing people" it just shows how weak your case is.

Why do you keep on about sniper bullets?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest sniper bullets.
Or is there Jim?

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 04:49 PM

"There is absolutely nothing to suggest sniper bullets....Why do you keep on about sniper bullets?"
But you and The Thug insisted that there was - don't tell me you were both lying - heaven forbid!!
Feel like giving us a song?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 05:23 PM

I am fallible Jim.
I made a mistake, and explained how I came to make it.
I acknowledged it within days and repeated it several times.
More than a month later you are still using it.
What does that say about your case Jim?

A licence was issued and revoked for some small arms ammunition, but probably none supplied.
It could have been for their Olympic shooting team for all we know.

With just that you have filled this thread with attacks on Britain while the unspeakable horrors in Homs go on without comment from you.
You have no humanity Jim.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 05:31 PM

"I made a mistake, and explained how I came to make it."
Er - no you didn't - you blamed me for tricking you by lying anbout the "invented" shipment
That would be about the time I pasted up the horrific effect of the "that would be sniper bullets Jim" and you realised what an awful boo-boo you'd made by identifying them
And your gunslinger friend - I did warn you about the danger of him taking his weapon to you if you contradicted him - youre not contradicting him are you? - careful now!!
"A licence was issued and revoked for some small arms ammunition, but probably none supplied."
How do you know this - neither of you has produced any evidence to back this up - you can't even decide what the shipment was
What a pair of tossers!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 06:00 PM

Oh, and by the way
"You have no humanity Jim."
It's you who proposes to send riot control gear to assist Assad put the revolt down
Heart - tons of it, thanks for asking
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 06:26 PM

Keith A of Hertford - PM
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 01:54 PM

"So you intend to continue to ignore the horrors of Homs brought about by sniper rifles sold by Britain"
Britain has supplied no weapons to Syria.
Teribus was right.
You claim Britain has supplied small arms ammunition.
It can be obtained much cheaper from China, Russia, India, etc. so I doubt it.
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The confusion arose because YOU Jim kept bringing in other countries when this thread should just be about Syria.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 06:32 PM

It's you who proposes to send riot control gear to assist Assad put the revolt down

No, I said non-lethal was preferrable to lethal.
Assad IS putting the revolt down with Russian tanks, artillery, missiles and aircraft.
Please explain why that is preferrable to water and tear gas.
Humanity Jim?

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 08:15 PM

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C
I'd piss off like Billy the Kid and Weirdie Beardie if I were you
Buty sing us a siong before you go]
Night Night
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Mar 12 - 08:55 PM

"Please explain why that is preferrable to water and tear gas."
Only if you tell us why selling Assad weapons or equipment is in any way an alternative to selling him sniper bullets - unless you are arguing that it is necessary for Britain to sell military equipment of any sort to dictators
YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON ON THIS THREAD WHO IS PROPOSING THAT ANYBODY SHOULD SELL ANY EQUIPMENT TO SUPPRESS DEMONSTRATIONS TO SYRIA - SYRIA IS A TERRORIST REGIME - THEY SHOULD BE SOLD NOTHING WHATEVER - WHY ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THEY HAVE TO BE SOLD ANYTHING? THEY SHOULD BE SOLD NOTHING WHATEVER - THEY ARE KILLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 02:03 AM

Given that Russia and China can not be stopped supplying all the deadly weapons they want, providing non-lethal can not make things worse.
Only better.
Squirt them with tear gas and water, and they will come back.
Kill them and they will not.
Humanity Jim.
Show some.

Why are you still saying Britain supplied sniper bullets?

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 03:55 AM

Jim has chosen to reply by pm to my last post.

Jim, you have failed to implicate Britain in this horror.

You have succeeded in diverting the attention of this thread away from the indiscriminate massacres by Assad, aided and abetted by Russia, China and Iran, to just another smearing of Britain.

Today.
More than 8,000 people have died since anti-government protests erupted in Syria a year ago, a UN official says.

UN General Assembly President Nassir Abdulaziz al-Nasser said many women and children were among the victims.

In a separate development, a human rights group accused Syria of laying landmines along its borders with Lebanon and Turkey to stop desperate people escaping.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 04:33 AM

My reply was this - I suggest that you bow out now
I'm off
Jim Carroll

"Can I seriously suggest that you read and think think carefully about what you have just written on the Homs thread.
We know from what you have written in the past that you are a raving
racist and flag-waving nationalist.
Your last posting makes you a complete imbecile.
I really don't want any part in having done that.
Please do not bother replying to this - it will go straight in the
bin.
Jim Carroll"

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: beardedbruce
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 06:59 AM

Jimmie boy,

Since you object to missiles so much, how about these from your dear friends in Gaza???


http://news.yahoo.com/200-rockets-hit-israel-23-gazans-killed-return-145000964--abc-news.html


"TEL AVIV - The fourth consecutive day of violence between Israel and Palestinian militants in the coastal enclave of Gaza saw the number of rockets landing in southern Israel climb to more than 190 and the death toll of Palestinians - most of them militants - to 23.
At least 40 rockets landed in Israel today, the Israeli Defense Forces said, the closest landing around 25 miles from the country's biggest city, Tel Aviv. Another hit the city of Ashdod, which has a population of 200,000.
An 80 year-old Israeli woman was reported wounded by shrapnel in Ashdod, there have been no Israeli deaths."

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 10:10 AM

Jim, this is what your friends on the far Left think of supplying non-lethal weapons.
They agree with me!

Syrian Sorrows (21 February 2012)
There is much death and pain in Syria at present. First of all the shelling of civilians. The Syrian army has been firing high explosive shells at the country's own citizens. Men, women and children are being blown apart, hit by shrapnel or buried under rubble.

We are also seeing increasing evidence of torture. 'Security' forces are not hiding this. They have recorded scores of 'trophy videos' of themselves savagely beating their captives. Young children have been among the victims. See Syria Exposed the Channel 4 program broadcast on ABC TV Four Corners on 20 February 2012.

How would a non-lethal weapons approach reduce these activities?

First of all, lethal shells would not be used in civil conflicts.

Secondly, soldiers armed with non-lethal weapons might be less acculturated to violence and less prone to torturing their fellow citizens (and one might hope – other prisoners). (We can't be certain of this, but it seems likely and would be an added benefit to a NLW approach to conflict.)
http://www.tamingwar.com/trial/

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 01:00 PM

Well thank you Christmas we now have it from you, by omission admittedly but:

BRITAIN SOLD NO WEAPONS TO SYRIA

That having now been admitted then we can put this downright lie to bed as well:

Syrian civilians in Homs are being slaughtered by weapons supplied by Britain to the Assad Regime.

This thread might prove to be rather beneficial to Christmas - might even cure him of lying.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 01:41 PM

Weirdie Beardie, Brandead and Billy the Kid - a full house I think
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 03:24 PM

"Jim, this is what your friends on the far Left think of supplying non-lethal weapons."
Incidentally - the Non Lethal Weapons campaign is a Quaker organisation - sorry
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 13 Mar 12 - 04:04 PM

The New Internationalist?
All imbeciles?

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 05:29 AM

You stupid - stupid man
I suggest you read beyond the thread you stumbled on
They are idealistic pacifist Christians who have suggested that democratic countries should consider replacing lethal weapons with equipment to pacify disorder - the Mormons appear to be the driving force behind the movement.
Read what they have to say, rather than grasping at straws to attempt to justify your horrific suggestion that a regime with a long record of detainment without trial and torture, now in the process of slaughtering its own people, could be sold anti-riot gear in order to supress opposition to its murderous behaviour - that is the imbecility here.
I fully understand why you, with your political outlook, should consider the Christiidealism expressed in "far Left".
To date, you and your two disgusting mates are the only ones to have backed arms sales of any sort. You, in particular, have desperately tried to censor any discussion whatever on the role Britain has played in supplying weapons to countries involved in the Arab Spring demonstrations.
We have all deplored the supply of weapons to Assad; no-one but you has suggested supplying him with anything else.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 05:46 AM

I see nothing about any religious group.
I see links to publications like New Internationalist, and to University Peace Study Departments and movements regarded as Left Wing.
You may not agree with us that non-lethal is preferable to lethal.
That does not mean that I and all of them are "stupid, stupid" or "imbeciles."

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 06:54 AM

"That does not mean that I and all of them are "stupid, stupid" or "imbeciles." "
Then you have been very selective in your looking - nothing new there.
No, it does not make them 'imbeciles'; their approach, which appears to be a "what if" one makes them naive. It also suggests a degree of ignorance as to the nature of the regime in Syria.
"We are also seeing increasing evidence of torture"
"Increasing evidence" has been available since the Amnesty report was published, so to suggest supplying non lethal weapons to such a regime is airy-fairy idealism.
You have been given that information yet you continue to defend yor appalling suggestion that such equipment could be sold - that makes you an imbecile and a supporter of war crimes by suggesting selling equipment to a regime actually in the process of slaughtering their own people
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 07:04 AM

No it does not Jim.
I stated that non-lethal is preferable to lethal.
Disagree Jim?
I also suggested that supplying non-lethal equipment, to a regime that ALREADY HAS copious quantities of lethal weapons, and willing suppliers of more, would do no harm and might do some good.

State clearly why you disagree and why it makes me an imbecile Jim?

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 07:12 AM

"Disagree Jim?"
OF COURSE I ******* DO
SELLING NO WEAPONS AT ALL IS THE ONLY OPTION THAT ANY HUMANE DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY CAN POSSIBLY ADOPT IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THE ALTERNATIVES ARE BEING BLOWN TO BITS BY RUSSIAN CHINESE SHELLS OR BEING TORTURED AFTER HAVING BEEN NEUTRALISED BY ANTI-RIOT EQUIPMENT

SELL THE BASTARDS NOTHING

Imbecile!!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 07:26 AM

I think it OK to offer an alternative to lethal weapons.
You would leave them with just the deadly sort that they have so much of and are so effective with.
We disagree.

You could be wrong again Jim.
You were completely wrong about Britain supplying weapons to Syria.
Indeed, you made quite a fool of yourself about that and totally disrupted yet another thread with your arguments and personal abuse.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 08:20 AM

"I think it OK to offer an alternative to lethal weapons."
Great - down in clear black and white at last
The Amnesty International report is of a regime that has been torturing and oppressing its people for decades - you would allow them to go on doing so by giving them the equipment to do so.
The Bunch of tossers on Question Time said - in so many words, that they would prefer the Assad regime to an alternative (devil you know...) and it is this is what will happen when/if Assad wins - Britain we re-enter normal relations with a regime headed by a war criminal.
Of course you think it ok to provide equipment to maintain the status quo in Syria - you're a friggin' fascist as your previous views have always indicated, and after all - Britain does have to make a living somehow!!
SELL THE BASTARD NOTHING
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 08:30 AM

Non-lethal equipment does not preserve the status quo.
Killing the opposition does.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 08:35 AM

"sell the bastard nothing"

Ok.
GIVE the bastard an alternative to the deadly, lethal weapons he already has.
Anything to stop the slaughter and get him out.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 09:26 AM

"GIVE the bastard an alternative to the deadly, lethal weapons he already has."
You've had it and rejected it - unilateral armed intervention as happened in Libya, boycott, ostracising the bastard - and most of all, removing the right of veto from countries who have abused it China, Russia, the US, for example.
Listen to what the Arab League is saying - listen to what the Syrian opposition is asking for - it's all here.
YES - NON LETHAL WEAPONS CERTAINLY DO PRESERVE THE STATUS QUO _ THAT IS WHY THEY ARE BEING SOLD TO ARAB DESPOTS BY BRITAIN AT THIS VERY MOMENT
What the **** d you think is going to happen if Assad wins - a revenge driven bloodbath of mammoth proportions, the crushing of any possible opposition with the aid of British equipment if you have your way.
AND YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT BRITAIN BE PART OF THAT BY HELPING QUASH ANY OPPOSITION
As I said - a fascist solution, making your proclaimed sympathy for the Syrian people the mealy-mouthed bullshit that it has always been - as was your concern for all those "poor young women"
I have what I came for on this thread - the expose of a supporter of war criminals - perfick
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 09:46 AM

me
I stated that non-lethal is preferable to lethal.
Disagree Jim?

you
"Disagree Jim?"
OF COURSE I ******* DO

We will not agree on this.
There is an international campaign of peace activists, (not linked to any religion) that agree with me, so not universally held to be stupid or imbecilic.
What is your opinion worth?
I think you are wrong.
Again.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 10:19 AM

It is all hypothetical anyway.
Assad does not want non-lethal stuff.
He wants to crush all opposition.
Russian bullets, shells and missiles do that best.

This is just another thread drift away from the subject you so want to avoid Jim.
The horror of Homs.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 10:51 AM

THread drift again - you havee said all you have to say - your solution - sell him equipment to crush opposition - nothing else
Please go away and take dirty mac gunman the Weirdie with you - you're all a bunch of right wing tossers
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 10:58 AM

sell him equipment to crush opposition

He is already crushing the opposition, in the most brutal and murderous way imaginable.
Why do you close your mind to it Jim.

No-one can stop Russia and China giving him the murder weapons.

It is as if you don't care what is actually going on while you type your abuse.

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 01:58 PM

···Please go away and take dirty mac gunman the Weirdie with you - you're all a bunch of right wing tossers
Jim Carroll
.,.,.
Is that really your idea of rational political debate and comment, Jim? For the honour & credibility of yourself and your fellow left wing - ah - individuals, don't you think you had better try and do a bit better than that?

Regards

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 04:00 PM

Ooo it's the fairy godmother!! Have you been following this Mike - I wonder how you feel about your protege's suggestion of supplying anti-riot equipment to the Syrian regime - or maybe I've misunderstood him?
"I think it OK to offer an alternative to lethal weapons."
Nope - that's what he said.
I'm afraid rationale left this discussion with Keith's 'if you oppose sending riot equipment to Syria you must be in favour of supplying them with heavy artillery
Perhaps you'd care to offer an opinion on those alternatives?
These three clowns have consistently lied and distorted what I have said, have desperately searched and failed to back up their claims, and have refused either to withdraw or apologise - and continue to lie.
I think dirty mac gunman (a reference to the self proclaimed gun nut's claim that my mother gave blow-jobs) and Weirdie (the serial liar who continues to accuse me of supporting Hamas et al), is, in the circumstances, pretty subdued.
Or perhaps it's the right-wing tossers bit you take offence to.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Homs horror
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Mar 12 - 04:19 PM

Keith's 'if you oppose sending riot equipment to Syria you must be in favour of supplying them with heavy artillery

Jim, they already HAVE the artillery, and are using it to terrible, inhuman effect.
If only he could be persuaded to accept a non-lethal alternative is all I was suggesting.

Only hypothetical because he would not accept it even as a gift.
It is no good for crushing the opposition.
Russian lethal weapons are best for that.