Sidmouth Closed

Subject: RE: Sidmouth Closed
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 08:45 PM

A complete tech drift but.

I obviously don't understand mudcat technology as the thread above appears under the heading "Sidmouth Closed" when I thought I typed "The Olympics & Sidmouth Festival".

I can explain that one to you Dave. Thread creation is a 2 step process here. That is common with most relational database solutions as the details of the thread and of the posts that relate to that thread will be in seperate tables. They get joined by a related field (in this case it looks to be called threadid - incedentally thats how a post gets moved, change that number and a post becomes part of a different thread to a user).

On Mudcat, the 2 step process is visible (a system like mine at the Annexe makes 2 steps look as one - it does the work in the background rather than needing 2 submits). In the first step here, you created the thread and gave the thread the title "Sidmouth Closed" in the second step having created the thread you make the first post and posts here allow a Subject. On that you entered "The Olympics & Sidmouth Festival" and that can be seen by looking at the subject of your first post.

If you look at all the subsequent posts, they revert to "Sidmouth Closed" because they take the default from the original thread title.

Subject: RE: Sidmouth Closed
From: Cllr
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 05:13 PM

yany one whi thinks folk is safe with labour i refer them to to the new PEL laws Cllr
(talk about shooting fish in a barrel)

Subject: RE: Sidmouth Closed
From: Malc R
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 04:14 PM

He probably would, I doubt anyone in Sidmouth would even recognise the elusive Mr Swire :o)

Subject: RE: Sidmouth Closed
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 04:11 PM

Dave

What planet are you on?

If you want to make a point about inadequate appreciation and funding by central and local government of our heritage of folk music,then fine, because it's true that central and most of local government haven't a clue about the value of folk music.

The only party leader who understands the importance of folk music is Charles Kennedy, because his father is a piper (and it was the record of his father's piping that would have been his final choice for a Desert Island Disc).

Sidmouth festival has been going for 50 years, and is still going. The international element arrived fairly early on, but Steve Heap changed the name from "Folk Festival" to "International Festival" comparatively recently.

The main problem for the future of the festival is not the withdrawal of funding by EDDC, but the increasing amount of regulation of public performances, even when by amateurs or semi-pros, and onerous licensing and insurance requirements. Steve Heap asked for contingency funding to cover the insurance costs, particularly of outdoor and weather-dependent Arena events, and didn't get it.

It was Tony Blair's Government (and Kim Howells as Minister) who enacted the half-baked revised licensing legislation which was aimed at regulating pubs hosting lucratively paid professional performances and didn't take account of sessions where people just get together to sing and play for the fun of it.

Hugo Swire is no longer an MP, because Parliament has been dissolved and there is no Parliament to be a member of. If he is a candidate standing for re-election, I hope he will be asked if he supports his local festival.

Kitty

Subject: RE: Sidmouth Closed
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 03:43 PM

if he does, one wonders if he will survive....

LTS

Subject: RE: Sidmouth Closed
From: GUEST,Folkie
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 03:29 PM

I obviously don't understand mudcat technology as the thread above appears under the heading "Sidmouth Closed" when I thought I typed "The Olympics & Sidmouth Festival".

Sorry to anyone connected with the 2005 Sidmouth Folk Week.

Just to be clear, the Folk Arts England I quoted refers to the Sidmouth International Festival closing (which it has) but I believe there are still plans to stage a much smaller Folk Week in the town this summer.

One wonders whether the local MP Hugo Swire will attend?

Folkie Dave

Subject: The Olympics & Sidmouth Festival
From: GUEST,Folkie
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 03:26 PM

There is an interesting article in the latest newsletter from FolkArts England.

Under the heading 'Opportunity for Tradition in 2012' it reports on how a London Olympics could be good news for folk music.

"Have you ever seen an Olympic opening or a cultural festival that didn't include the traditions of the host nation?" it asks.

Comparing the Arts policies of the three main political parties, the article then notes that Tory Shadow Arts Minister Hugo Swire has "warned of major cuts in the Department of Culture, Media and Sport" if the Tories win the UK General Election (not much chance of that!).

The article then points out that Hugo Swire "is the MP for East Devon who made no intervention at all as the Sidmouth International Festival, after 50 years on what is now his patch, closed mainly due to lack of serious funding."

Since the Festival closed the Tory-run East Devon District Council has cut the £60,000 grant to the event meaning the small band of people trying to keep some form of Folk Week alive in Sidmouth will face an even greater struggle to make ends meet.

There's an old saying in politics. "Trust not what they say but what they do".

On that basis you can trust a Tory Government to be very bad news for the Arts and for the traditional music scene in the UK.

Folkie Dave