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NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP

GUEST,Pseudolus 16 Oct 00 - 02:37 PM
Melani 16 Oct 00 - 01:16 PM
Cap't Bob 15 Oct 00 - 08:11 PM
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Naemanson 15 Oct 00 - 09:07 AM
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Susan from California 14 Oct 00 - 11:09 PM
Cap't Bob 14 Oct 00 - 11:01 PM
SINSULL 14 Oct 00 - 10:28 PM
Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) 14 Oct 00 - 09:22 PM
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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: GUEST,Pseudolus
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 02:37 PM

A local radio station had people calling in once to get creative "warnings" to put on products for consumers because of all the dumb ones that are already there and someone suggested this for McDonalds Coffee cups.

"Please allow to cool before applying to crotch area".

Frank


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Melani
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 01:16 PM

Re: Strip search--if the girls were not in complicity, they were just stone stupid! My daughter would know better than to put up with crap like that, because a) she's not stupid, and b) I have made sure she understands her rights. Any parent who doesn't prepare their kid to resist being taken advantage of is not doing their job properly.

Re: Old lady's burns--people have varying levels of sensitivity, and elderly people can be more delicate than younger ones. Also, one assumes she was wearing clothes at the time, and the hot coffee would have been trapped in her clothing and held against her skin.

Re: Batter-fried genitals--I never eat at McDonald's.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 08:11 PM

Dave ~ I also prefer food, however at the time I was making $147 a month and sent one hundred of that to the bank. Forty seven bucks just didn't go very far in Calif. in those days. A meal (er whatever)at White Castle for less than fifty cents was not to be denied. Usually after the chow I would go to the "Gaiety" theater in Long Beach and for a measly twenty five cents I could watch (sleep through) movies all night. The only problem was that they would kick all us sailors and other "dead beats" out around seven thirty so they could hose the place down and start another 24 hours of continuous movies.

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Max Tone
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 08:05 PM

See LYR ADD - MacDonalds Rob


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 06:35 PM

Capt. Bob:

YOu had the bad taste to mention, you should pardon the expression, "White Castle"!!! (Also known as "The Aluminum Room".)

I've always avoided that establishment, just because I prefer FOOD!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: sian, west wales
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 03:47 PM

Well, I guess I'm not quite over the Llanstock experience yet. I thought this thread was about Patrish.

Gotta get some sleep!

sian


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: DougR
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 03:14 PM

Sinsull ...s'okay. :>) DougR


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 10:16 AM

Bubba Luke and Kate both wondered if perhaps the girls could have been in on the jig from the beginning, hoping to get a little money from McD's..........


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: BDtheQB
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:17 AM

An aside.. and there is a baseball player named Milton Bradley,.. I heard he is a real gamer..

Back to the point.. In the early 70's I was a fast food restaurant manager for a brief time. I know that at 22 years old I was too young to be in charge of females of eighteen years of age especially the "cute" ones. Lucky for me I was a geek and couldn't talk to them without blushing but what if I was a "ladies man" (and there were a lot of them about back then) and the opportunity presented itself? I know that even as a "geek" the ladies often flirted openly with me and one even flashed me by opening her top. I resisted any temptation even so (and I don't to this day know why) so according to my read of the article, it didn't sound like the ladies were too upset or uncooperative either. Perhaps we should wonder how much education the ladies had and whether they may have been too easily disrobed. I may be wrong and if it is as reported it is a heinous crime but remember lads and lassies would you have disrobed for some one at that age for the slightest excuse? Maybe some would and maybe that is why the amount is so small. Could it be that someone was caught with their pants down and excuses had to be invented? I could be way off on this but things aren't always as they seem


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:07 AM

Yep! There've been several. Guess there's no need to open that discussion again.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 09:04 AM

We ought to start a thread on capital punishment. Or has there already been one?


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Greyeyes
Date: 15 Oct 00 - 08:24 AM

US Mudcatters might be amused to learn that there is currently a professional England international rugby player called Austin Healey. One can only assume that his parents had a quirky sense of humour. As a player he is fast and extremely unpredictable; don't know if that's significant, I've never driven one.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: DougR
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 11:10 PM

Thanks for clarifying, Sinsull! :>) DougR


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Susan from California
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 11:09 PM

And the judge's name is Thomas Payne? Do ya think his folks were hoping for a smarty pants when they named him? (Even tho the spelling is different from the Thomas Paine of the 1700's)

In 1978, my brother and I drove from New Jersey to Southern California (about 3000 miles) in his Austin Healy bug-eyed sprite. The two of us, and everything we could carry, including my kitten, Nasby (who was named after Graham Nash and David Crosby) jammed into the tiny car. The wiring burned up in Albequerque (sp) New Mexico. It was a Sunday and nothing was open except for a K-Mart. He re-wired the car in the parking lot with the wire from a lamp repair kit. It was an interesting trip, we went the whole way without a map, but since we were bi-coastal at that point in our lives, we didn't need one, we knew the route. Now that I'm 40, I hope my kids won't do such silly things:-)


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 11:01 PM

.....and just when I thought I was safe.... Yes sir, this year we finally got a McDonalds in our little unincorporated village. One thing I can't stand is cold coffee ~ not even luke warm ~ however there should be a law against drink'en the stuff from a wobbly plastic cup whilest driving a car.

Aye... and about the British sports car. I owned to of them little dream cars back in the early 60's. In the early 50's the ship I was on (USS HELENA) had Long Beach, Calif. as its home port. When I went on liberty I used to walk 20 blocks (I counted them) just to look through the window of a sports car dealer. It was during this time that I fell in love with the MG. One advantage to the walk was a White Castle hamburger stand. 15 cents fur a burger and 15 cents for french fries and 20 cents for a shake. YOUNG PEOPLE DO NOT GET CROTCH BURNS FROM COFFEE BECAUSE THEY DRINK SHAKES.

Finally in the early 60's I bought an MG A and a few years later I got a hold of an Austin Healey 3000 ~ with both of these cars you could NOT drink coffee and drive because you were shifting gears all the time. The Healey had four regular gears plus a switch to throw for overdrive in either third or fourth gear. Absolutely the most fond memories of driving in my life. I would take the Healey into a local gas station to have it greased. There must have been about 150 grease fittings and the guys would have it on the hoist for about an hour and a half and still just charge me the regular buck fifty. Me thinks they just enjoyed working on something a little more interesting.

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 10:28 PM

Hell no, Doug. That would be inhumane.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 09:22 PM

I think they should just let the manager go and give him a cup of coffee for the drive home!

Rich


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: DougR
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 07:50 PM

I assume all of you folks that want to see that dumb McD manger's private parts ground up like hamburger, french fried, hung on a pole, etc. also favor capital punishment too, huh?

Just curious. :>) DougR


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Penny S.
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 07:09 PM

Thread creep back - I had two Hillman Imps (well, one was a Singer Chamois with extra headlights). And then one day I heard on the radio a scene, as it might have been at the Mudcat Tavern.....where there is a running joke about prospecting for cars.

A prospector enters.

P. I've found a new vein of Hillman Imps, up there, behind the ridge.

Aged local. Them's not Hillman Imps, lad, them's fools Hillman Imps.

Pregnant Pause. Pause.

Several voices. There ain't no other sort.

Penny


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: GUEST,Dacparkend
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 07:02 PM

I supose it take one dimbulb to recognise another Huh?


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 06:06 PM

....uh,huh.............................Gee its nice to know this isn't the only country with dimbulbs as citizens.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: GUEST,dacparkend
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 05:02 PM

Just a word from another Brit, Why all the suprise that the manager accepted the phone message? If he got such a call, I would think that Christmas had come early, there he was minding his own business when a cop phones him and tells him to take a GOOD look at his dimbo girly staff with their kit off....whould you have argued????? As for the deviation into cars (how did that happen) you yanks wouldn't know a good sports car if it ran you down on Route 66


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 02:08 PM

Interesting tidbit on the news this AM.......The police are asking for polygraph testing on the officer whose name was used.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 08:03 AM

Maybe WE could sue McD's for causing us to choke on our moral outrage. It should be good for a cool half mill itself which we then turn over to Max for the Mudcat.

Where's that folkie lawyer when we need him?


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 01:19 AM

What is really galling about this strip search is that unlike the slipping on ice or pickle incident, where those people were not assaulted by anyone and were in a sense in control of their own destinies, these girls were taken advantage of by another person - a manager - in an extremely humiliating and sexually abusive way, and McDonald's gets away with even less than a financial slap on the wrist? Where's the justice there?


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 12:13 AM

Yeah, right, Spaw. Don't let him fool you, LL, he is one BIG SOFTIE at heart, hiding behind that rattley ole facade!


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Oct 00 - 12:03 AM

Sorry LL...I'm just an insensitive bastard. I said I feel for the pain, have been burned myself.....I just wonder about the lawsuit at all, but I can see paying for the bills and some pain. But a half million???? I just ain't all that sensitive (as someone pointed out in a PM after I remarked above that "Rebuilding the lady's genitals is like painting a car that don't run.") Sorry...I REALLY AM this insensitive. No kiddin'!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:51 PM

WELL ... just like life's highway... this thread has certainly taken it's twists and turns! I'm confused Spaw..if the families of the girls had gone for the half mil ...would you then feal better about the unfornunate woman who was so badly burned? How can any of us stand in judgement of anothers pain? Kinda goes against my grain.

LL


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:51 PM

I'll just "stick" with my old Honda Sabre. She's far too much a lady to do anything so disgusting as leak anything and far too big a whore to not be a thrill.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: rangeroger
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:49 PM

I remember one long night driving my '67 AH Sprite from San Bernardino to San Diego.The points in the Lucas fuel pump were bad, and every few miles the engine would sputter to stop,I would get out and reach under the car with a hammer, pound on the fuel pump till it ran enough to fill the float bowls, then drive until the engine sputtered to a stop...etc.etc.

I finally stopped at an all night gas station at highway 74 and US 395,pulled the fuel pump off, and sanded the points.The mechanics on duty all thought I was nuts but i drove off and made it all the way home to Chula Vista.

I became very adept at tuning the twin SUs,so much so that other British car owners brought their cars to me to set their carbs. Until the day I put the 40 DCOE Weber on it and wondered where that carb had been all my life.It was an epiphany.

rr


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Troll
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:47 PM

Spaw...If ya put Gorilla Snot on all the casing bolts and then torque 'em to spec, she shouldn't leak. I've got a buddy who has two triumphs and thats what he recommends. 'Course, if ya ever have to take her apart...

troll


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:36 PM

Yeah, I had to give up the bike when my first kid was born, three wouldn't fit and I couldn't tie her (the bike) down with a side car. Then I injured my back and my biking days were over.

Never could stand Harleys either. That bike of mine was so sweet. Sure it vibrated like hell but at least it was a regular vibration not that irregular thumping of the Harley at rest. Sure it leaked more oil than the Exxon Valdez but hell, the Brits designed it that way to keep it from rusting. They keep the outside covered in oil.

And besides, what self respecting biker would cringe at have a big oily streak bisecting their body?

Ah, those were the days....


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:28 PM

Yeah....unlike almost any other injury, with burns you just lay there and HURT......So you had a Minx huh....Loved those little bastards!!! A wolf in sheep's clothing like the older Bimmers.

HEY NAES!!! Starting in '65, I had a whole run of Brit bikes: Two Lightnings, a Commando, Two Bonnevilles, and a Trident. I always hated Harleys and the Japanese stuff was tiny. Plus, the British stuff handled SOOOO well...great frames. But that damn buzzy vibration and the constant oil leaks drove me nuts. In 69, BSA added the automatic chain oiler which just added to the mess. I bought a new Lightning and on the ride home, one horn vibrated off, the pipes turned blue (always did), and my back had a HUGE oily streak down the middle from the chain oiler.

When the Honda 750 hit, I still resisted for another couple years. One night on the Norton, I ran over some railroad tracks and the damn thing just quit. Blew a main fuse. Found the problem, but decided I'd had it and bought a Honda. Then I bought the second 903 Kawa sold in the state. Great bike of course and I've been riding the big bore riceburners ever since......Nice old Sabre out in the garage....Exceeds all legal speed limits in first gear.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Troll
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:07 PM

SINSULL...No, they would not.

Spaw...Lets not forget Lockheed brakes.
I drove British 4-bangers for years, starting with a Hillman Husky. Then I had a Triumph Spitfire (I never DID get those carbs synchronized properly) and then a Hillman Super Minx with a Sunbeam Alpine engine, side-draft SUs,tuned exhaust and a 4-speed. It would do 90mph in 3rd gear;this was in 1972.
I then bought a ford van which nearly killed me. I was right over the radiator when the upper hose blew. My glasses saved my right eye but I had 2nd and 3rd degree burns over a third of my body. Burns are nasty and they don't stop hurting.

troll

Oh yeah.When I got the Spit, the engine was blown. I rebuilt it in the front yard.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:35 PM

what idiots! NO one except another female ...even police...is supposed to strip-search a woman!...and then ONLY under extreme circumstances...Anyone who would take that kind of chance SHOULD be sued!...but the world IS full of idiots, so why am I surprised...


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: sophocleese
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:25 PM

Thanks for giving us that link Spaw. I have to admit to being amused that the manager's defense of his conduct in inappropriately touching the young women was that he was helping them take off their shoes. Either they were putting their shoes on in strange places or they had really long laces.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:17 PM

...that bike was some nimble ON her feet.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:16 PM

This guy (the manager) really pisses me off. I do not believe anyone with a half way reasonable mind would accept that line over the phone. What an idiot. Judging from the article I think he cooked this thing up with a friend just to get the kids naked. Hang him!

Rant off!

Now to get back to the thread creep. I drove a 1972 Triumph Trophy Trail motorcycle for years. What a sweet bike. British cars may not be able to take the water, either falling down or splashing up, but their motorcycles are known for not being able to contain the oil inside their rattling guts.

The engine sounded like someone had thrown a hand full of extra bolts into it but that bike was some nimble of her feet.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 08:09 PM

WELL.........As more info comes out, this gets even more bizarre!!! Here's the story as it appeared in today's Columbus Dispatch and you'll see what I mean. One note here.....The caller used a real policeman's name and though the police and the officer have previously stated it WAS NOT a police officer, this is the same police department where several officers were busted about four years ago for running up a $9000. phone bill on one of the "Dial-A-Hard-On" sex lines. Anyway, for your perusal............

COLUMBUS DISPATCH ARTICLE-BARE BUNS AT MICKEY D.'S

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 07:07 PM

That was a crafty move wasn't it?

I loved the cars though.....for all the crap, they always had some character too. That's why I spent the better part of my wrench twisting time on imports. Rest assured I have a lot of problems with Detroit iron too. And the Japanese. Does anyone remember the first Datsuns? On the dragstrip, they reached the quarter mile before they ever got to 45mph!!!! Things have improved over the years though with the Euro stuff but sadly you're still stuck with Ronald McDonald who's getting worse!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 07:02 PM

LOL!

Greyeyes, I drove a Ford, too, only it was British Ford Cortina. :-)Loved it, but it did always need something done to go beyond A to B.

Jeez, Spaw, thanks for pointing me to this thread. I thought from your title it was just some new kind of chicken dish they were serving.

It is depressing to know that after so many years of working on equality issues, sexual harassment issues, etc., etc. there are still women and children out there who don't realise they have a right to say "NO!" and so-called *managers* who are either just as gullible or too gawddamned devious and get away with such as this.

If he wasn't fired, he certainly should be and the families should go for a lot more than $25,000; that might pay for a first year of college, which, at the very least, McDonald's should pay for for those girls (all four years), so they hopefully could work somewhere besides MickeyD's the rest of their lives.

Unfuckingbelievable.

kat


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Lanfranc
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 06:49 PM

Thread creep - or what!!!!

The US gave the world (including, sadly, the UK) the Big Mac. Up to now, I didn't realise that it was revenge for 1950's and 60's British sports cars. How imaginative of you!

GM = General Motors - perhaps that's why we are all told to beware of GM foods (MacDonalds Division) !

Another illusion shattered


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Greyeyes
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 06:24 PM

Spaw, why do you think we export them? I drive a Ford.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 05:11 PM

Close Ebbie. He would have to batter and fry his own while they were still attached. I'm not touching them. No telling where those things have been. Bet they've been in the batter before - that's for all you McD frequenters.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 04:26 PM

Naemanson, I think Sinsull meant she would be battering and deep frying the manager's genitals while they were still attached... :~)

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 04:06 PM

I spent many happy hours driving around with my steady in a British Racing Car Green Triumph. Of course, I didn't care if it required gas never mind maintenance.
Naem,
What is that crack about Texas liberalism? I am born and bred in NYC. I don't think that french fried family jewels accompanied by a McD deed is too liberal. Of course, I have a son. Maybe if I had a daughter I'd feel differently. Head on a stick will smell as bad as their burgers in a very short time. You may want to rethink that.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 03:54 PM

That's OK....I made a lot of money working on British cars. Unlike the way I generally refer to my profession by saying that, at least at our shop, we REPAIRED cars....In the case of English cars, we only WORKED on them....No one can FIX a British car. They are designed to be worked on at point A so you can drive to point B where you can do more work before proceeding to C....and of course repeating the process as you return.

Only in a British sports car can you stare at those Smith Instruments and realize that they bear no semblance to the reality of what's happening. Only in a British sports car can you have the thrill of driving through a torrential rain on a dark night and having your lights go out (Joe Lucas says, "Don't go out after dark")....No problem though, the wipers only work when you check them on bright, sunny, days.

Only in a British sports car do you need an enginneering degree to raise the top which leaks like a sieve anyway. (all, but MG especially). Only in a British sports car can you smell hot asbestos and look underneath to find a glowing, white hot, brake rotor located 3 inches from the fuel tank (Jaguar). Only in a British sports car do you need to call a termite inspector for regular frame maintenance (Morgan). Only in a British sports car can you enjoy the pleasures of old time driving with an unsynchronized transmission--doncha' love that grinding sound? (OK, they are FINALLY synchronized after all these years) Only in a British sports car can you find a beautiful and elegant suspension coupled with a puny, underpowered, erratic, FRENCH engine (Lotus) or a brawny and flashy body with a powerplant that sounds worse than a John Deere tractor (Aston-Martin).

Ah, but ya' gotta' love 'em......Anything as quirky as a British sports car also has character, although most folks would prefer comfort and reliability.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 03:19 PM

OUCH! I hit submit and THEN remembered that our distinguished associates from the United Kingdom may be reading this.

I shall now assume the position to receive criticism, ducking under the desk with my hands over my head.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 03:17 PM

The Brits have a lot to answer for concerning cars. My father used to have an old Triumph Harold. We considered it our sports car. (Hey! I'm from the back woods! What did I know?) All I remember is the time spent trying to tune dual carburetors by hand. That and the basket we rigged so Charlie, the pet raccoon, could get his nose up over the windshield (it was a convertable).


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 03:10 PM

I agree with you Naes.....I'm sure that there are issues we don't understand, but I just don't see how she could have been that severely scalded at 185. Yeah Mickey was wrong and all that but half a mill????

I was scalded by 200+ degree ethylene/glycol when a lower radiator hose blew on a Jaguar with me laying directly underneath it, engine running (timing marks are on the bottom). The side of my face, neck, left arm, and side, caught this at full force. After scrambling out and with an appropriate amount of screaming, I got into the shop shower with coldish water for 10 minutes before going to the hospital. I was blistered pretty severely and burns are NEVER easy to live with, but things healed with no scarring or skin grafts.

What I DO know is that I'd be having Ronnie's ass for breakfast in this case. $25,000 my ass!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:07 PM

Carol and Spaw - If you say so I believe you. As I say I only have the urban legend end of the story.

My problem is that during my training in the Navy I saw several pictures of steam burns. There were pictures of burns from low pressure (150psi) steam and high pressure steam (1200psi). The low pressure steam burns were basicly scalds and 2nd degree burns (blisters and such). The high pressure steam caused third degree burns to the point of effectively eliminating body parts.

Two years ago we had an accident here on the base where an employee was bathed in live (low pressure) steam. It took a year of intense medical treatment and therapy to get him up and around. His is an inspiring story of courage and hope.

I just can't see a cup of coffee doing anything like that.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:54 PM

Naemanson,

I have seen pictures of that woman's burns, and yes, they were horrific. You wouldn't wish something like that on your worst enemy.

Carol


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:17 PM

Yep! Much as I hate the litigious world we live in, which is why I have such a problem with the coffee and pickle things, since we DO live in it, I would be suing for the works!!! Again, as Karen said when she and I were discussing it, "that's the smalltown price"......These folks are suing for something they consider reasonable.....they're mad, but there is this "Aw, shucks" feel about it. And somehow I find it appalling that sexually assaulting two minors is only worth a tenth of rebuilding some 79 year old woman's genitals. Sorry, I know she went through a lot and all, but DAMN!!!! I mean, ain't that kinda' like putting a coat of paint on a car that don't run?

Anyhow........There are some real cartoon posibilities here...like Ronald McDonald leering over two naked teenagers as the Hamburglar runs off with their clothes?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 12:13 PM

Forgive me, but I am just a little bit skeptical over the coffee incident. I have never seen anything about it but only heard the urban legend versions. Can anyone lead me to more info on that one.

I have a tough time believing that a cup of coffee that cannot exceed 212 degrees anyway can do that much damage. However I do believe people file spurious lawsuits all the time. There is one going on up here where a woman is suing because she slipped on ice in front of a store in January in Maine. Imagine that! There was ice on the ground in January in Maine.

And Sinsull, I'm afraid your liberal kind hearted Texas background has made you too lenient towards that manager. I'd have his head on a pole in front of my house! And he would have tried to say a lot while I was removing it slowly from his shoulders except for the fact that his genitalia would be stuffed in his mouth. Sometimes my Viking ancestry gets the better of me. The Blood Eagle would be too kind for that guy.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:53 AM

Troll,
Please tell me that your kids would not disrobe for anyone under the guise of authority without your permission. Maybe the manager just made up the phone call to create an opportunity. $25000!!! I would own that damn McD by the time I was done with them and the manager would be battering and deep frying his genitals. Rant over. I'm sorry - almost.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Troll
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:31 AM

Shoot! When I saw this thread, I thought that it was about nekkid women (or nekkid men for those who swing that way) being used by McDonalds as a way to increase business.
you know, for every item you buy, they take off an article of clothing or something like that. Or if Spaw was working there, for every item you bought, he'd put an article back on.*** giggle ***snort***
On the other hand, if it had been MY daughter, that manager had better hope the cops got there first.

troll***who is just a teensy bit protective of his kids.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:18 AM

Yeah mrrz....I heard all of the story several times about the hot coffee and all and I remain my insensitive self, fully armed with another 50 jokes about the thing.

As to this one....NO, it is not an urban legend. Lawsuits were just filed yesterday and the incident took place just awhile back in Zanesville which is only about 35 miles from me here. Its been on the news for quite some time, everytime a new development takes place. No myth or urban legend on this.....although I suppose the tale will be exaggerated and mangled over time.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:06 AM

About the old bat - she got her half million, and 8 separate surgeries, and almost a year in the hospital, and had to have her genitalia and upper inner thighs rebuilt after they were cooked, yes, cooked by the coffee for which "too hot" was an amazing understatement. The media didn't report all the details... like that the particular McDonalds had already had scores (more than dozens) of complaints about burns from their coffee, and they had refused to change the temperature to something humans could withstand...

But I gotta agree about the naivete scale; are we sure this isn't another urban legend?


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 11:01 AM

Thanks Brett....that's more what I was trying to say.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Kim C
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 10:22 AM

Oh my McStars!


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:36 AM

Actually it makes me feel a lot better about the world. The manager has reassured me of the quality of intellegence that can occupy such a position (I am a manager myself) and the foolish girls reassure me that naivete is still to be found in a world so full of cynicism and sarcasm.

Of course, I am also the father of a naive daughter and want to make it clear the $25,000 is not enough. I would be suing for money and to have the manager drawn and quartered as well!


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 09:06 AM

They still haven't identified the prank caller and I gotta' wonder just how stupid the manager was to believe it. On the other hand, what does it say about good old midwestern values that a couple of girls would consider a McDonalds manager as enough of an authority figure to strip down. I'm not meaning any insensitivity here to the problems of sexual harassment in the workplace and I'm sure these girls were probably in fear of losing their job perhaps, but uh.......Can you see this happening in NYC? This is coming out all wrong, but I hope you get my point. It was a lousy thing to do, but the stuppidity/naivete factor had to be REAL high here.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 08:42 AM

Yes Spaw,
"You deserve a break today, so get up and get away to McD's..."


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: LR Mole
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 08:21 AM

Hold the pickle, hold the...oh, never mind.


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 08:14 AM

Yeah moo......I thought about titling this thread "McD's Inspects Buns" ........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Lady McMoo
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 07:33 AM

Certainly! And a couple of buns too!

mcmoo


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 07:26 AM

Do you get fries with that?


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Subject: RE: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: Lady McMoo
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 07:21 AM

McMOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

mcmoo


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Subject: NEW at McDonalds--The McSTRIP
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 06:44 AM

At McDonalds something new has been added....the McStrip. Oddly enough though, it seems to have less value than their "hot" coffee and lip-burning pickles.

Zanesville, Ohio ------ Two female employees of a McDonalds were strip searched......by the manager. It seems the manager is a COMPLETE DIMBULB who received a phone call from someone purporting to be the local police. The caller said that two young female employees were the ones who had stolen some money from the McD's and that the manager should detain them. HOWEVER, since the "police" were concerned that the girls would ditch the money, the manager should strip search them.....and he did.

The families of both are suing for $25,000 each in a lawsuit against both the manager and McDonalds. I find this interesting since some old bat got half a million because her coffee was too hot and some screwball in Tennessee is suing for even more because a pickle burned her lip. Evidently, at McDonald's, coffee and pickles are hotter than sex. Personally, they can hold the coffee AND the pickles, just sign me up for a managers job!!! BTW, Zanesville is just about 35 miles from me and I could commute. The job would be worth the drive.

Spaw


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