BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Scoville
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 11:13 PM

Texas has four seasons--almost summer, summer, more summer, and Christmas (which is just like summer but has weird yard decorations).

We're having LOWS in the 90's.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 01:12 PM

It's nearing 100 degrees here today (I'm glad I was up early and finished most of my work when it was cooler) and I'm taking my kayak to the lake (Sorry Wes!) I'm almost hoping I'll tip over! :)

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Wesley S
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 01:09 PM

WIMPS - Come to Texas. In Ft Worth we are expecting an entire week of 100 plus temps with lows in the upper 70's. And the air-conditioning is not working here in the office. It's 85 at my desk and no repairman in sight.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 12:06 PM

The world is trying to oblige you, Little Hawk.....

(hotter still today...90° at noon, and 94º+ expected.)

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 11:41 AM

No mo' snow! No mo' snow! No mo' snow! That's my motto.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: *daylia*
Date: 17 Jul 06 - 09:26 AM

Lovely lyrics, pdq and Jude -- thank you!

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Alba
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 09:38 PM

another song that mentions wings, summertime and winter.....:)


The warriors of winter they gave a cold triumphant shout
And all that stays is dying and all that lives is getting out
See the geese in chevron flight flapping and racing on before the snow
They've got the urge for going, they've got the wings to go

They get the urge for going
When the meadow grass is turning brown
Summertime is falling down and winter is closing in

From Joni Mitchell's Song "Urge for Going"

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 09:37 PM

"Just with local warming of the Bay of Fundy."

HuH ?!?!?

I live a city block up from the coast of the Bay of Fundy ... and it's as usual a coll 18C and foggy ... somehow we're caught in a cold cell of the global warming process. Maybe it's the close proximity of that nuke lectrical factory.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: pdq
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 08:57 PM

Neil Young: "Little Wing"
        

All her friends call her Little Wing
But she flies rings around them all
She comes to town when the children sing
And leaves them feather as if they fall
She leaves her feathers as if they fall

Little Wing, don't fly away
When the summer turns to fall
Don't you know some people say
The winter is the best time of them all
Winter is the best of all.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Alba
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 08:22 PM

Well after a day of much need work in my garden, with the temps topping out in the 90s in the full sun, the fans in my home are finally blowing something that kinda feels like cooler air around this place.
During my mini breaks today when I came inside a thought did pass my mind that I might have achieved the same effect as the fans in the house by simply plugging in my hairdryer and pointing that at myself!

bobad has got it in one...."Windy Hot"...lol

Jude:)

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: bobad
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 07:28 PM

If you had no fans it would be STILL hot. With 9 fans it should be WINDY hot.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 07:23 PM

we have 9 fans...they help. It's STILL hot...

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 03:15 PM

Fans are always an option. They're not perfect, but they help.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 03:01 PM

It's 36C and about 60% RH under my large apple tree. It's 18C and about 40% RH at the keyboard, under the Danby. Of course, I am supplied with elelctrical power from a nuke, so there's no problem with global warming. Just with local warming of the Bay of Fundy. Of course, that has no effect on cod stocks or the like. Fish like warm water, right?

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 01:30 PM

Not everyone has such options, LH.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 01:24 PM

If you go to places like Trinidad or Pakistan, it gets a lot hotter than that in the summer. Most people have a different way of staying cool, as opposed to the expensive air conditioner favored by North Americans. They stay in the shade and they have lots of open windows and fans. In Pakistan they blow the fans through a hanging drapery which is kept damp...it produces a wonderfully cool and refreshing flow of air...and it's far cheaper and more healthful than using an air conditioning system...plus...it doesn't spew hot air out into the city around you, which air conditioners do.

Try fans. They work wonders.

Shade trees are also good. It's always cool and pleasant under a large tree.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 12:56 PM

gonna be in the mid 90s here the next couple of days, with humidity at 60-70%.....and they've upped the price of electricity 30-40%...We cool only the area we must to survive.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 12:37 PM

Oh, go away!

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: *daylia*
Date: 16 Jul 06 - 11:09 AM

Well here it is almost a year later, and Winter seems to get more lovable all the time. With the humidex it's been 36-40 Celcius here for the last couple weeks. Unbearable! Can hardly even sweat. Feels hard to breathe, and it's depressing not to want to go anywhere or do anything except stay indoors cuddled up to the air conditioner, waiting out these deceptively gorgeous, inviting-looking summer days.

Fall finally arrived about a month late last year. At the beginning of October, it still looked like August around here -- hardly an autumn leaf in sight. And the leaves were out about a month early this spring. The trees used to be in their full budding glory around my sister's birthday (May 14) -- but this year they were greening by the middle of April.

A little farther north of where I live in Midhurst Ontario, the wild blueberry stands along the highway are already in full swing. And in my backyard, the blackberries (wild black raspberries, we used to call'em 'prickleberries') are already ripe and plump. Used to have to wait till around the middle of August before we'd go on our annual picking sprees for either -- but no more!

The seasons are definitely changing, thanks to global warming. I'm convinced. USed to complain about Ole Man Winter so much. The cold, the shovelling, the dangerous driving conditions -- but today I'm just sitting back contemplating how much I'm going to miss him when he's gone. Never thought I'd see the day ... but I really will!

If he's ever really totally gone, that is.

KInda makes my blood boil, just thinkin about it ....

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: CarolC
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 11:27 AM

No problem.

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: *daylia*
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 10:26 AM

Gads, I'm sweating just imagining that! Carol, you've done wonders for my resolve toward climate-friendly speech. Thanks!

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: CarolC
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 04:36 PM

It's supposed to be staying below 90 degrees F during the day for the next couple of weeks (mostly in the mid 80s), here in southeastern Alabama. Maybe fall is really here.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 04:27 PM

This week there was a conference in Anchorage on this subject. Concerned indigenous people testified to the anomolies that are occurring in their lands and villages as well as on the ocean.

It's not only happening in Alaska, of course. All the far northern lands are reporting the same things. I think especially of the polar bears that congregate in Churchill, Manitoba, where they forage while they wait for the ice to form and firm up. It's taking longer. And it's not just coastal either. Interior Alaska's buildings are sinking lopsidedly into the tundra to a degree unknown since the experts figured out how to correct for permafrost. It's a whole different ballgame out there. One of the worrisome facts is that there is such a thing as a tilt point after which things can go to hell relatively speedily.


"Atmospheric temperatures in the remote state have risen 3.6 to 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit (2 to 3 degrees C) over the past five decades, according to the recently released Arctic Climate Impact Assessment, a comprehensive study by scientists from eight nations.

"That heating,>/b> most pronounced in winter and spring, is much more dramatic than in the rest of the world, which has had an average increase in land surface temperatures of 1 degree F (0.6 C) over the last century, according to the Environmental Protection Agency."

More

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: *daylia*
Date: 29 Sep 05 - 07:26 AM

Well, here's a science article about the longer, warmer summers up in the Arctic lately. Because of "atmospheric heating" (global warming?) ...

"...Epstein said that since the early 1960s the spring thaw in Alaska's tundra country is arriving an average of 2.3 days earlier each decade. As a result, plants in the region now "leaf out" about 2.7 days earlier than in previous decades. Likewise, the first freeze each year is arriving slightly later, allowing plants to extend their growing season. The longer growing season is allowing shrubs and trees to slowly migrate northward. The increasing woody vegetation is further warming the near-surface atmosphere by absorbing rather than reflecting incoming solar radiation.

"The vegetation change is pretty dramatic," Epstein said. "The tundra is getting greener, and there is a noticeable increase in shrubs. This is observable from satellite data and by observations on the ground. Native American people in the region and nearby areas also have noted the changes in weather and vegetation."

Hmmm ......

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: gnu
Date: 28 Sep 05 - 10:51 AM

Snow over drizzlin grey. Because the colours are move vivid with grey, green AND white?

I am not an expert but I think the "turnng" of the leaves depends mostly on the length of daylight whereas the "falling" of the leaves depends mostly on temperature and moisture. Any experts out there? Ranger1 or one of the other naturalists/science types? or 'Cats who can find anything on the net in 0.0001 seconds?

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: *daylia*
Date: 27 Sep 05 - 10:40 AM

PS thanks for the song Ebbie!   ANd I must say - I'd take the snow over months of drizzlin grey every year too ...

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: *daylia*
Date: 27 Sep 05 - 10:28 AM

Ooo gotta stay away from those, SRS. Poison ivy can be so deceptively lovely -- those bright little red berries and the deep green shiny leaves that turn gold and orange and red in the fall ... reminds me of a song by the Northern Pikes --- "She ain't pretty, she just looks that way!"

Hey Mr Gnu Brunswick   :-D   you may be right. It IS looking just a bit more golden-orange out there today, with the birches and aspens turning, but the maples and oaks and poplars? Seems the bigger they are, the greener they're staying! I've remember years where it looked like this in the middle of August, never mind the end of Sept! Maybe it's because we really haven't had the cold nights yet this year - hey, maybe the leaves will fall while they're still green! One of my student's moms just told me she drove to Sault Ste Marie on the weekend, looking forward to the typical fall vistas of blazing northern colours - but she was disappointed. Looks just like here, she said. Hmmmm ....

If this keeps up, and we get Autumnized till about February this year and then break IMMEDIATELY into Spring, you sure won't be hearing any complaints from me! THe ski resorts would certainly make up for it though....

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 01:44 PM

Down here in my patch of Texas we have one type of leaf falling in the yard already. It's rather bizarre--they're all of the poison ivy leaves from the vines along the creek. Too sparse to rake, too green to be harmless.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 12:25 PM

Rain Country

In the winter it's raining; the clouds are dark and low
It's the normal condition- everybody wants it so
With snow-covered mountains, the valleys wet below-
In Southeast Alaska we have more rain than snow.

In Spring the clouds are heavy with impending change
Fog and hail, brief sun and wind, we go all the range
There is no predicting but always - or in the main-
In Southeast Alaska in spring there is rain.

Ah, but in the summer, the misty air's serene
Clothes damp-dry on the line, the grass is cool and green
But hang your coat by the fire lest you go out again
In Southeast Alaska, summer brings rain

In Autumn the storms return, dark clouds are in the sky
Wind strips leaves from all the trees and sends them flying high
Waters rush, galoshes slosh- a familiar refrain:
In Southeast Alaska, it's raining. Again.

We're a special kind of people who live here, don't you know
We've made our peace with weather - with rain, not with snow
So we take pride in saying, though it may cause some pain
In Southeast Alaska, bring on the rain
This is Southeast Alaska- Bring on the rain!

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: artbrooks
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 08:35 AM

Ron Davies: Shush...somebody might hear you...

I think it hit 101 this summer, and it was unusually hot. Nightimes in August are in the low to mid-70s. We're looking at 85/62F (29/16C) today. The humidity is considered high here when it reaches 35%. Fresh water is certainly available, but you do need to be reasonable about it...the Rio Grande flows year 'round, but you can walk across it without getting your knees wet right now. Tap water tastes good! Hummers? Well, mostly black-chinned but they are all over the place.

Winter? I think we got a total snowfall of six inches last year. Wanna drive in slush and snow? Go to Santa Fe. Wanna ski? Go to Taos.

Art in Albuquerque.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 06:43 AM

Winter? I don't know. I've known girls called April, May, June and Summer. Don't know a winter.

Here in Southern Scotland winter can be so variable. A cold, clear day is amazing, and then the stars come out, but those are all too rare. We get weeks on end of rain and slush, which is just unpleasent.

The thing that really stands out about winter is the light though. We're on the same lattitude as Southern Alaska. In midwinter, the sun is above the horizon for 6.5(ish) hours, and it feel like this for 3 months. Which is plain depressing.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Peace
Date: 25 Sep 05 - 08:34 PM

Spittin' distance to the Rockies. We have had snow all around us, but none yet in town. Hope that keeps up (because if it does it won't come down--HA HA HA).

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: gnu
Date: 25 Sep 05 - 08:27 PM

Maples.. reds... are always the first here... but, around here, the aspen... and other poplar types are the last to turn... yellow or just faded.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Sep 05 - 08:21 PM

And I'm in Idaho, just spittin' distance (if you can really get some distance) from Alberta.

The mountain maples look like scarlet rivers on the mountainsides. The aspen haven't yet kicked in with their yellow, but it'll be any day now -- perhaps tomorrow, as it's supposed to go below freezing tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: gnu
Date: 25 Sep 05 - 01:46 PM

daylia... the Harvest Moon was just 8 days ago... keep yer eyes on them leaves over the next three weeks.

I am in Gnu Brunswick, not far from sIx.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: *daylia*
Date: 25 Sep 05 - 08:22 AM

PS   I'll take the heat... At least ya' don't have to shovel it...    ☺ LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: *daylia*
Date: 25 Sep 05 - 08:03 AM

It's not so bad...he said, realizing that because he said it this winter will have weeks on end of snow, wind, and -40 F. temperatures....

That'll last until the first stretch of 40 below and the car won't start ... However, nice thought, daylia.

Well, I dunno ye nay-sayers, y'may be right. My speech can get pretty icy when it's 40 below, but hey, just looking out my window this morning I'm thinkin maybe Mother Nature has resolved to help me out a bit this year.   

Something quite strange is going on weather-wise, at least in my neck of the woods right now. Have the trees elected NOT to change color this year, or what? Here it's almost October, and the big Norway Maple in front of my house is still fully clothed, looking like the Jolly Green Giant! A few of the scrub maples lining the road are just now starting to go orange, but that's about it. My son was camping in Algonquin Park last weekend, and I asked how the colours were doing up there, thinking that it might look a bit more seasonal a couple hundred miles north of where I am. He said ... notta. Looks about the same as here, he said.

Hmmmmm ... maybe we won't get Winter at all this year (she says hopefully!)   I, for one, wouldn't mind being autumnized for an extra few months instead...

Is it the same where you are down East, sIx?   And out there by the Rockies, Peace?

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Peace
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 11:35 PM

"Yes, I feel VERY fortunate to be a Canuck today, and I now determine myself - with y'all as my witnesses - to NEVER badmouth our most enviable, kind and oh-so-virtuous climate again!"

That'll last until the first stretch of 40 below and the car won't start. It would with me, anyway.

I will rephrase that: It will with me, anyway. However, nice thought, daylia.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 10:24 PM

Last winter we had 24 inches of dry, powder, snow. It didn't get below -5 F., and that was a dry cold -- most of the winter I wore a jacket to and from work.

I do have a parka rated to something like -2,000 degrees F. In the last two winters here I've worn it once.

This summer I don't think it got over 95 F., and it was a dry heat.

It's not so bad...he said, realizing that because he said it this winter will have weeks on end of snow, wind, and -40 F. temperatures....

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 09:16 PM

The way I see it ya' can either complain about heat or cold but not both so I'm goin' on record of sayin' that winter sucks...

I'll take the heat... At least ya' don't have to shovel it...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: number 6
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 09:09 PM

You gotta luv winter ... but not when an major ice storm moves in and your out of power or a week (or 2).

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: *daylia*
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 08:56 PM

Or maybe, like how not having to listen to Dylan makes ya love listening to Nirvana?   ;~)

You're right, Carol - Canada's no hurricane-free zone. How could I forget, the tail end of a hurricane blowing into PEI the first night of my one and only visit there in the summer of 91 ... and how the spectre of Katrina had some of the locals here remembering the flooding in Toronto/Barrie as Hurricane Hazel raged through in late fifties...

But ahhhh ... New Mexico! Hmmm ... it's beautiful there all right, especially the night sky panorama, and most especially if you make do without trees. I travelled through there one summer with my parents, five siblings and 2 dogs in a non-air-conditioned Volkswagen bus, en route to Arizona. From what I recall, the average temp in New Mexico in Aug at high noon is about 130 deg F. Felt like a blast from the ole oil furnace coming through the open windows of that bus! But the humidity is about 0.

(And consequently, availability of fresh drinking water is also about 0 ....)

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 06:03 PM

Just becuz it ain't a hurricane don't mean ya gotta like freezing yer ass off. That's like saying that not having to listen to the Archies makes ya love listening to Lawrtence Welk.

E-e-e-lmer

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 05:49 PM

Sounds great. I was out in NM in 1980 and I still remember what seemed like flocks of hummingbirds.   Brilliant blue skies. Shadows on the mesas toward dusk. It was no problem to get up at 4:30. Can't explain it---getting up early is an unnatural act for me.

I suppose water might be a problem---"Shadows sway and seem to say tonight we'll pray for water".

But it sure was spectacular.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: annamill
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 05:17 PM

Waitaminit! I have friends in NM and they tell me (I haven't really been able to believe them) that it gets really cold with lots of snow in New Mexico.

Honey has to be near water. Me too! He surfs. In the ocean, not the web.

I love Lincoln County, NM. 90ft pines followed by big drops into the yellow desert. High Black-eyed Susans along the road. Beautiful.

..from sea to shining sea!

Love, Annamill

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 05:03 PM

How about New Mexico? Hot summers, but no humidity. (How are the winters?) Cool evenings. Stunning skies and mesas. Mountains, plains, desert. Amazing wildlife, including several kinds of hummingbirds. Cheaper than San Diego. Spanish and Old West flavor.


Anybody from that area?

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 03:52 PM

yeah...San Diego has about as nice a year-round climate as anywhere. I once left Kansas (where the temp was 105ºF) with my mother to visit her brother in San Diego.....spent 2 weeks in 78º balmy weather and returned to 107°! I wish my uncle had willed me their house! I could never afford to live in a place like that now.

(That heat in Kansas was didn't have nearly the humidity that Wash DC does....)

" In fall, the leaves litter; in rainy September
The wallpaper rots and the candlesticks rust"

I once talked to a college professor in Missoula, Montana who said he hoped the general public would never find out how reasonable and nice the weather is, generally, there. You can SEE mountains, but you are not IN mountains, and it seldom got as cold as people think. I have kept that in mind...just in case.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: annamill
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 03:37 PM

Two words! San Diego!! No winter, hardly no humidity!! Honey and me like it here. I invite all Mudcatters to move out here. (Expensive tho! Well, you get what you pay for)

Love, Annamill ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 03:01 PM

Carol--say it ain't so.

I try to walk and take the subway as much as I can. Fortunately I can get to work that way--wouldn't want to tangle with some of the crazed commuters I hear about.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 02:28 PM

No, Ron. They drive the same in any kind of snow... even the dry stuff. It's lack of experience with driving in snow that makes them dangerous.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 02:23 PM

But, as Bill, says, snow in DC is often close to the freezing mark, therefore very slick, and virtually always wet, often turning to ice on the road. If people can't see the snow or ice, they don't allow for it on the road--not smart. My theory is that if the snow were drier, DC drivers would do better. But it's just a theory.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 02:21 PM

I love winter... I miss the cold crisp nights of Northern Ontario... Winter camping... The starts somehow seemed brighter.. closer even...

Now, down here, on the Bum-tag of Canada, we get 3 months of slush, and grey, and yuck... It sucks....

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 02:02 PM

The worst thing about Washington DC area winters is the drivers. Most people there don't know how to drive in the snow, and they're dangerous. That, plus the ice storms that knock out power for days at a time.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 01:56 PM

Aw, c'mon Bill. You know we rarely have times we can't get to the store for days. Our winters are nothing compared with a lot of the country.

You're right about the summers. But at least we don't live further south.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 01:40 PM

You don't dress for heat. You UNdress for heat. I was miserable living in the South (US) until I figured that one out. I still don't like it much when the temps are in the mid 90s F, and the humidity is above 75 percent, but I'm not anywhere as miserable as I thought I would be in this climate. And don't forget... Canada as coastlines, and it does get hurricanes from time to time.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 01:14 PM

Yep...in Winter, if all I'm concerned with is body heat, I CAN dress more warmly, and I can at least be warm in bed (heated water bed and/or electric blanket)....but Winter has more inconveniences in other ways. Hot weather does not require me to wear myself out shoveling my drive before going to the store, nor prevent me from GOING to the store for days.

Unfortunately, Summer near Wash DC can be miserable, as the humidity gets nasty....and Winter in Wash DC can be miserable because snow is often right at freezing, and is slippery and nasty and hard to drive in.

I think that if I lived in Arizona or Canada, I'd adjust to the problem season better and revel in the shorter, but nicer relief when it went away.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 11:23 AM

Anything's better than heat and humidity. If it's cold you can always put on another layer. Of course I suppose it depends somewhat on if you generate heat yourself, which I do. Jan doesn't.   I tell her when we retire we should move to the Hebrides. She disagrees.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 10:53 AM

"Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get." -- Lazarus Long.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 10:41 AM

No, hate winter, love summer - but that's England. THe rest of the world has climate, we ahve weather. Totally unpredictable. Michael FYsh says so.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 10:28 AM

That way in Wyoming too, Mike! And I HATE winter. Spend it wrapped in blankets in front of the fire freezing my ass off.

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 09:46 AM

Complaining about winter is a competitive sport here in Alaska. But in all truthfulness, it is a magnificent time of year. I moved up here from Yuma, Arizona where the summer temps reach over 120 F many times during the summers. There ain't no way to dress for heat like that. When it gets freezy cold here in wintertime, we just plan more music gettogethers around a nice cozy fireplace. I guess I'll stay up here for awhile longer. But I'm not giving up my right to complain.

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 09:12 AM

Yup, in Idaho too.

Subject: BS: Hey, gotta LOVE winter eh?
From: *daylia*
Date: 24 Sep 05 - 09:01 AM

Watching the devastating onslaughts of Katrina, and now Rita, has had at least one positive and totally unprecedented effect on my typically Canuck mindset / preferred pastimes. In the past, it seems that nothing brought on more pleasure and community spirit than complaining en masse about the weather. But I've come to the conclusion - just today! - that Canada has absolutely the healthiest and most wonderful climate on earth!

I'd take a blizzard over a hurricane any day of the week, thank you very much! At least Winter's fury doesn't leave masses of homeless refugees in her wake. Winter never claims thousands of lives while destroying whole cities, at least in my recollection!   THe odd death from exposure or traffic accidents is about the worst our winters bring. And hey, you can always layer up the clothes, all comfy cozy and water-proof, to deal with the snow and cold - but how do you "dress" for months and months of unbearable heat and humidity every year? I just can't imagine ....

Yes, I feel VERY fortunate to be a Canuck today, and I now determine myself - with y'all as my witnesses - to NEVER badmouth our most enviable, kind and oh-so-virtuous climate again!

How 'bout you?