Subject: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: GUEST,Scary Kerry Date: 23 Apr 07 - 09:09 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn4Yx1MTgfQ&mode=related&search= Another conspiracy nut. A link to a Youtube clip that's 1:00 long. John Kerry saying they had to brind down WTC7 in a "controlled fashion." |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Charley Noble Date: 23 Apr 07 - 09:21 PM I must be really obtuse. Could someone or "Scary Kerry," explain why what John Kerry is saying indicates some kind of conspiracy is involved? What I'm hearing is Kerry saying he assumed the building was dangerously damaged and had to be brought down in a controlled demolition rather than repaired. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Mr Happy Date: 23 Apr 07 - 09:27 PM brind? |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: GUEST,Scary Kerry Date: 23 Apr 07 - 09:30 PM The questioner laid out the series of events carefully then asked his question. Kerry answered that the building had to be brought down rather than repaired. Problem is, the building was brought down in a perfect demolition on the afternoon of 9/11. It takes WEEKS to plant demolition charges in a building that size. The government has been saying the building fell, like WTC 1 and 2, as a result of damage. They've changed the story 5 times so far, too. But Kerry just admitted it was a demolition job, the day of the attacks. So, who planted the charges? You see the corner he painted himself into? |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Amos Date: 23 Apr 07 - 09:39 PM Your whole argument rests on the assertion that it takes weeks to plant demolition charges. If the building was already badly weakened, it may have only taken hours, to an expert eye, to see what wopuld have to be done. Your conclusion is presented with entirely too little supporting data. A |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 23 Apr 07 - 09:47 PM We like the moon! We like the moon! cause it is close to us We like the moo-oo-oo-oo-n But not as much as a spoon Cause that's more use for eating soup And a fork is not very useful for that unless it has got many vegetables and then you might be better off with a chopstick - unlike the moon! it is up in the sky it's up there very high but not as high as maybe dirigibles or zeppelins or lightbulbs! and maybe clouds - and puffins also I think maybe they go quite high too Maybe not as high as the moon cause the moon is very high We like the moon The moon is very useful everyone Everybody like the moon because it light up the sky at night and it lovely and it make the tide go and we like it but not as much as cheese we really like cheese we like zeppelins we really like them and we like kelp and we like moose and we like deer and we like marmots and we like all the fluffy animals We really like the moon! |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Amos Date: 23 Apr 07 - 09:49 PM Jaysus, you really are a thread creep sometimes, Robin... A |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 23 Apr 07 - 10:08 PM I thin the carefulyy crafted artistic explanation I posted is just as rational as most of the stuff I have heard about 911 mate! :-) Robin |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: GUEST,Scary Kerry Date: 23 Apr 07 - 10:10 PM That building could not have been wired in hours. It was a building built on top of a con-ed generator building. A 47-story lattice of enormously heavy steel girders sunk into bedrock. Plus, the govt said it was on fire, so why would people have been allowed inside with explosives during a fire? It was not wired on the day of the event, nor could it have been wired on a single day under the best of circumstances. The way the govt dealt with the issue was to not talk about it. The collapse of WTC 7 is not even discussed in the NIST report. Yet the lease holder, Silverstein, squeezed out a crocodile tear and said they were forced to "pull" it...a demolition term. Impossible to have wired it, yet admittedly demolished (by Silverstein and now by Kerry), so this is a problematic area. Who wired it, and when? And why did the government lie about the circumstances surrounding its collapse? And MOST importantly, if they lied about the collapse of THIS building, then what else did they lie about regarding 9/11? What'd it take...a day or two for Bush to put that fat old gangster Tom Ridge in charge of an investigation into the Virginia Tech shootings? (Ridge is a coverup expert). Yet it took 411 days for Bush to appoint a commission to look at 9/11..."the day that changed America forever." Kerry just put his foot in it bigtime. Then he said it wasn't in his "jurisdiction." A freakin' U.S. Senator, and 9/11 isn't his problem. His career is over because of this. I just hope he now spills the beans on what REALLY happened on 9/11. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: GUEST,Scary Kerry Date: 23 Apr 07 - 10:17 PM Oh, and this was the building that the BBC and CNN reported had fallen (past tense) 20 minutes and an hour before it actually did. Film all over the place on that...the building standing in the background while Jane Standley and Aaron Brown talked about it in the past tense before being alerted that their asses were hanging out on international television. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Ebbie Date: 23 Apr 07 - 10:18 PM Gracious. When did John Kerry become part of the conspiracy? I too listened to the YouTube link. I too heard John Kerry respond to the statement and question. He "admitted" nothing; he was going along with the question as posed. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Bill D Date: 23 Apr 07 - 10:20 PM I don't hear Kerry 'acknowleging' ANYTHING....why would he even know anything about it? The longer clip right below that ends with Kerry saying "I really don't know that much about it" Kerry was shrugging in an off-the-cuff remark sorta saying that 'the building was in danger' maybe NEEDED a controlled removal....that is WAY short of any confirmation that anyone planned it in advance. Get real! |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Don Firth Date: 23 Apr 07 - 10:20 PM I notice that all these threads having to do with conspiracies about the WTO attacks are started by "GUEST,some sort of pseudonym," (most likely all the same person). How do these nuts get in, anyway? And why are coming here? Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: GUEST,Scary Kerry Date: 23 Apr 07 - 10:49 PM why would he even know anything about it? Well...because he represents the state of Massachusetts and Logan airport was involved in the "attacks." And if this was the "event that changed America," he should know ALL about it. The true set-up came with the question before, when the woman talked about Dr. Steven Jones' evidence of thermate bombs at the WTC complex and asked if Kerry would be open to investigating that, and he said he would. So yeah, he was shrugging it all off, but he's on film saying WTC 7 was brought down the DAY OF THE ATTACKS through demolition procedures, and he's agreed to look at Jones' conclusive evidence. Now his feet will be held to the fire. He'll never be elected again after this. He might be an appointed reichmarshall or something, but the 9/11 Truth movement is going to break over America this summer when Loose Change hits the theaters, then all this footage will be resurrected, and Kerry's a goner. A great day for America. I mean, the owner of the building said it was demolished, there was no time to plant the charges, then the government covered it up. Short of Mohamed Atta screaming in your good ear that he didn't do it, you can't get much more conclusive. This was set up ahead of time. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Little Hawk Date: 23 Apr 07 - 10:55 PM The usual set of reactions and quick "logical" conclusions from the usual participants, I see... |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Lonesome EJ Date: 23 Apr 07 - 11:12 PM Scary Kerry, you want the truth? We all knew John Kerry was involved in the destruction of WTC7. In fact, he was complicit in the entire 911 caper, including financing the planting of the demolition charges that brought down both WTC1 and 2. He helped rig the detonators on the noses of all three airliners. The entire 911 scheme involved a plot by co-conspirators including Kerry, both Bushes, the Saudis, and George Steinbrenner, and all of us who voted for Kerry in the 04 election. Its too late now for you to do anything about it now, though, much too late HA HA... |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Apr 07 - 11:16 PM Lonesome EJ, you let that cat out of the bag way too soon. I bet you could have teased this poor sod for 100 more posts. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Amos Date: 23 Apr 07 - 11:33 PM DAMMIT, Ernie!!! Now we'll have to take care of him too!! I'll call Guido. Never mind, I understand how tempting it was... A |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Ebbie Date: 23 Apr 07 - 11:37 PM We missed a good date though when we passed April 6th. I wonder why we haven't heard any more about it? |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Little Hawk Date: 23 Apr 07 - 11:41 PM Oh, and the usual humor too. How nice. ;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Sorcha Date: 23 Apr 07 - 11:51 PM Oooo, do they sing 'Soprano' too????? I think I prolly should tell you that JFK was involved in the demoliton. He is in a Nursing Home in the Bahamas and the aliens told him the building was unsafe for them. They even gave him the explosives to give to Sylvester. See, Rambo placed those charges. He knows all about that stuff. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Lonesome EJ Date: 23 Apr 07 - 11:52 PM While there is nothing funny about 911, I do find the endless conspiracy speculation ridiculous. What fools we mortals be. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Amos Date: 24 Apr 07 - 12:03 AM Nice recovery, there, man. That was close. A |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Sorcha Date: 24 Apr 07 - 12:04 AM Exactly, Ernie. I miss you. You still in CO? |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Peace Date: 24 Apr 07 - 12:37 AM What horseshit. First people here--HERE--said it fell down. Now they are blase about it being brought down. A fuckin' month ago I was being called a 'tin foil hat' person because I siad it was BROUGHT down. What a fuckin' joke. Shit or get off the pot. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Sorcha Date: 24 Apr 07 - 12:50 AM Actually, I have NO idea. Just shooting off my mouth again. I'll go to bed now. Nite. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Apr 07 - 01:04 AM Careful, Bruce, that tin foil is a little too tight. ;-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Peace Date: 24 Apr 07 - 01:07 AM I wish people would make up their minds. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 24 Apr 07 - 06:00 AM "How do these nuts get in, anyway?" A nonny mouse lets them in. "And why are coming here?" Because they are deluded that anybody here cares... We like the moo-oo-oo-oo-n.... |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Apr 07 - 07:27 AM Kerry also has all the inside dope on who killed Marilyn Sheppard in Bay Village, Ohio in 1954. First, Kerry represents Massachusetts and they also have a Bay, a really big one too! Also, Sam Sheppard was represented in his second trial by a Massachusetts lawyer! Let's all hold his feet to the fire on that one too. Scary Kerry, I'm with you all the way to the Funny Farm. Just let me out at the gate and you can go on....................(you really are a complete dumbfuck)....... Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Charley Noble Date: 24 Apr 07 - 07:59 AM Spaw- Are you suggesting that Kerry was coordinating the demolition from eBay? I have to admit that I'm reading typo's into your above post but that's beginning to make more sense to me thanthe way it reads now. Follow the money trail! Charley Noble, on his way to the funny farm |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: GUEST,Scary Kerry Date: 24 Apr 07 - 09:20 AM What's being done is that the participants (active and passive) in 9/11 are being caught on tape admitting to complicity. At these public events, the people who were in charge are being asked specific questions about 9/11 and their answers being filmed. That way, when the Nuremberg trials come, they'll be convicted by their own words. The U.S. Senate voted 100-0 to give Americans an internal passport to "fight the war on terrorism" (the Real I.D. Act). The borders are wide open, but law-abiding Americans are going to be made safer by being forced to carry "papers." This act was a direct result of 9/11. And Kerry, as a senator, voted for it. Why? If he doesn't have all the facts, or any of the facts, why did he vote for it? You'll see more and more of this. The killers won't break down and admit their complicity, but you'll see bits and pieces of the unwitting admissions over the next few months. As one person said, they keep TELLING us about September 11, so it's only right they should have to answer some questions about it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry mumbles abot WTC7 demolition From: Bill D Date: 24 Apr 07 - 10:40 AM you wouldn't know a 'confession' from a poem by e.e. cummings. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Ebbie Date: 24 Apr 07 - 11:27 AM "The U.S. Senate voted 100-0"- When has the Senate ever voted 100 to 0? On anything? As for our not being able to agree on what happened, neither does anyone else. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Stringsinger Date: 24 Apr 07 - 11:36 AM Lonesome EJ The only reason that these speculations continue is that the government has not given a credible account of what actually happened on 911. The fools are those who are content to swallow the Bush Party Line on this issue. The supposed bi-partisan efforts at an explanation in Washinton culminated in a whitewash. This fuels the interest. The word "demolition" being used and reused here should make any questioning American who has something going on upstairs wonder. Frank Hamilton |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Amos Date: 24 Apr 07 - 11:41 AM I think we all wonder, Frank, but that is not the same as asserting less-than-probable explanations with inadequate evidence. A |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Apr 07 - 11:47 AM Bravo Amos! Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Peace Date: 24 Apr 07 - 11:47 AM 'The word "demolition" being used and reused here should make any questioning American who has something going on upstairs wonder.' I am one of the tinfoil hat people, or so I have been told by some folks on this thread, either by direct statement or their silence when others have done so. The party line here is that the building fell down because it was damaged by one of the towers when that collapsed. The partyline is that there WAS no demolition. So all of you, please STOP using that term, otherwise I will be getting tinfoil for YOU! |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Big Mick Date: 24 Apr 07 - 11:51 AM Well said, Amos. If folks would take themselves out of the "conspiracy mode" for a while, they would see that most of this is very easily explained. There was a great deal of confusion, as there always is with tragedies of this magnitude. Remember all the theories and "proof" after Oklahoma City? The idea that anyone had foreknowledge of the attacks by the extremists, the idea that anyone built the buildings, or altered them, for some future destruction during a terrorist attack is beyond what any reasonable person would accept. As time goes on, the story will correct itself, and we will get as close as we can to the truth. And those that take every opportunity to find a conspiracy will become less and less relevant. That is, until the next time......... When I store my tinfoil hat, should I throw some mothballs in the box? Mick |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: GUEST Date: 24 Apr 07 - 12:05 PM It simply does not matter. Carry on. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Donuel Date: 24 Apr 07 - 12:20 PM Amos, OK who are the demolitionists who worked for only 2 hours in WTC7 ? You would think they would be deemed heros for working under those conditions. God knows we are desperate to celebrate heros of 9-11. Why don't we know them. Why didn't the 9-11 Commision know them |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: catspaw49 Date: 24 Apr 07 - 01:20 PM Wait! I'll bet Kerry really knows a shitload about that plane that didn't hit the Pentagon since he was a war hero and all! Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Apr 07 - 01:29 PM Hum...de..dumm... (humming a merry tune) |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Donuel Date: 24 Apr 07 - 01:53 PM http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.tv/orwellrolls.php |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Peace Date: 24 Apr 07 - 01:56 PM OK. One question for the poo-pooers: Did WTC #7 just fall down or was it taken down by placed charges? |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Ebbie Date: 24 Apr 07 - 02:00 PM Guesses - even educated ones - tend not to be as knowledgeable as one would like. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Apr 07 - 02:03 PM Peace. In answer to your question: The reason that WTC7 fell is not known FOR CERTAIN. The higher probablity reasons are the fire, and controlled demolition (not of equal weight, though). Lower probability reasons exist, such as a micro earthquake and activity by the Martian invaders. If anything POSSIBLE must be considered, please don't leave out the Martians. We.. THEY object to being ignored. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Apr 07 - 02:08 PM Mick, no mothballs. Have Rin Tin Tin guard it, that's your best bet. He was there, helping the explosives folks, I bet Kerry could shed some light on that. . . (But I fully agree with Lonesome EJ at 23 Apr 07 - 11:52 PM) SRS |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: Donuel Date: 24 Apr 07 - 02:12 PM bearded bruce is talking out of his ass on this one. There is legal proof it was pulled. Pulled is the term given buildings that are to undergo demolition. The legal proof are the archived NYC FD audio tapes of the orders being given. |
Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition From: beardedbruce Date: 24 Apr 07 - 02:18 PM All faked by us ... THOSE martians, to fool you. Besides, have YOU heard those tapes? And Pull also means to get people out of a dangerous situation, such as a burning building about to collapse. Especially after the two main towers HAD collapsed, with so many firefighters still inside. |