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Ebbie 03 May 07 - 11:10 PM
GUEST,Scary Kerry 04 May 07 - 12:45 AM
Wolfgang 04 May 07 - 06:28 AM
Don Firth 04 May 07 - 02:58 PM
Lonesome EJ 04 May 07 - 04:51 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 May 07 - 11:10 PM

Let me get this straight: The US government got hold of some wannabe-"suiciders" and said, Have we got a deal for you."

Right?


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: GUEST,Scary Kerry
Date: 04 May 07 - 12:45 AM

The guys on the planes didn't know they were going to die. They were U.S. government operatives. They'd been trained by the U.S. and regularly participated in "drills." On the morning of 9/11 they thought they were just going through another drill like the one a few weeks before, when actor James Woods saw a couple of the "9/11 hijackers" on a flight.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/002187.htm

The planes were taken over by remote guidance systems, which would account for the trick maneuvering some of them engaged in. The "hijackers" were unsafe in Cessnas, so they weren't at the controls of those planes.

And here's an interesting piece about Loose Change 2, the movie that put the 9/11 Truth movement into gear. The movie is being shown on in-flight movies. lol. The U.S. govt is in big, big trouble:

UK producer and distributor MercuryMedia International has licensed the 9/11 conspiracy internet movie Loose Change 2 – which features footage of exploding passenger jets – to Virgin Atlantic Airways.

The controversial film, made for just US$10,000, has attracted over 50 million downloads since its release in 2005, and will now be available for broadcast on Virgin Atlantic flights....

http://www.c21media.net/resources/detail.asp?area=100&article=35648

And here's a good bit of news. David Ray Griffin has finally come out with his "Debunking the debunkers" book. I think he's also released a film to go along with it. A review of the book (by a former Asst Director of the U.S. Treasury and current 9/11 Truth activist) can be found here:

http://mujca.com/debunking.htm

Some excerpts from the review:

Perhaps it is merely a coincidence that just prior to 9/11 Cathleen P. Black, who has family connections to the CIA and Pentagon and is president of Hearst Magazines, the owner of Popular Mechanics, fired the magazine's editor-in-chief and several senior veteran staff members and installed James B. Meigs and Benjamin Chertoff, a cousin of Bush administration factotum Michael Chertoff. It was Meigs and Benjamin Chertoff who produced the Popular Mechanics report that Griffin has eviscerated....

Griffin shows that the Popular Mechanics report consists of special pleading, circular reasoning, appeals to the authority of the NIST report, straw men, and internal contradictions in the report itself....

The two WTC towers did not collapse. They blew up and disintegrated, as did WTC 7. There is an enormous energy deficit in every account that rules out the use of explosives. Gravitational energy is insufficient to explain the pulverization of the buildings and contents and the severing of the 47 massive center core steel columns in each of the towers into convenient lengths to be picked up and loaded onto trucks; much less can gravitational energy account for the pulverization of the top floors of the towers and ejection of steel beams hundreds of feet horizontally just prior to the disintegration of the floors below....

NIST's final report stated that of the steel available to it for examination, "only three columns had evidence that the steel reached temperatures above 250 degrees Celsius" (482 degrees Fahrenheit). The self-cleaning ovens in our home kitchens reach temperatures higher than this, and the ovens do not melt or deform....

(This one is really good, about Flight 77, at the Pentagon) ...the absence of passenger luggage, fuselage, wing and tail sections--indeed the absence of a 200,000 pound airliner--is attributed to the vaporization of the airplane due to the high speed crash and intense fire. The incompatibility of vaporized metal but recovered flesh and blood stood unnoticed until Griffin pointed it out....


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Wolfgang
Date: 04 May 07 - 06:28 AM

Dreaded GUEST, Froth, or however you like to be called. Now that the "Hindenburg" catastrophe at Lakehurst is exactly 70 years away, I'd love to read your theory about the catastrophe. I'm sure you're not buying the official static electricity from using the wrong paint on the ship in combination with a leak explanation.

Was it Jan Gaspard's theory that the airship has been shot down with the help of a beam canon by the USA as part of an economic war with Germany about who dominates air travel? Or have you even better information? Surely it cannot have been just a coincidence that Nikola Tesla was in Lakehurst that day?!

The USA reports and the German about the event differ. That is a sure sign that there is something hidden. Reports!!! I just say Warren report. Huh!

Come on, tell us the truth in a new thread and under a new name. I can tell you that you'll gather a following of three whatever your theory is.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 May 07 - 02:58 PM

Gawd, this just gets weirder and weirder!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 04 May 07 - 04:51 PM

So...there really were no hijackers, no cell phone calls, no airliners involved. Bombs were planted throughout the World Trade Center. Flight 93 either never existed, or was shot down by US jets. Many people were aware that the attack was about to happen, because people were warned (some by Condi Rice, no less), not to fly, go to work in the Trade Center, etc. Thousands of shares of put shares were traded on the Dow by people anticipating a sudden drop in price for Boeing, American, and United Airlines, all of them aware that a disaster was imminent. Several days before the staged attack, a business man purchased the World Trade Center with a 35 billion dollar insurance policy, so apparently he was "in the know" about the plan as well. Bin Laden, having been recently treated at the American Hospital with US knowledge, suddenly became the designated scapegoat. The scope of the plan is just incredible. It meant hundreds, if not thousands, of people involved. And each one of them willing to take the secret of their involvement to his deathbed, even though they were complicit in murdering 3000 innocent people! And why....loyalty to Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld!
Not one..NOT ONE of these people has spilled the beans, either!

Are you people complete idiots?


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Don Firth
Date: 04 May 07 - 05:12 PM

Lonesome EJ, if all of this is true, then I'd say there's a book in it for some whistle-blower.

When one considers the size of the advance that a lot of publishers would be willing to offer for a tell-all book about the government's 9/11 conspiracy, or the size of the residuals on a maga-blockbuster best-seller, not to mention fees for lectures, television appearances, and all that, it must certainly be a temptation.   But then, of course George W. Bush is such as charismatic leader that none of these thousands of people who are in on the real scoop would even think of betraying to him.

Heaven forefend that anyone might succumb to a temptation such as that! Such loyalty is an admirable thing! My amazement knows no bounds!!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: GUEST,Scary Kerry
Date: 04 May 07 - 08:32 PM

When I start threads now, the ones on mudcat are stricken. So I usually just insert the information into the most closely related ongoing discussion.

The "hijackers" were FBI operatives. There are even rental receipts showing an FBI agent roomed with some of them. The "hijackers" were run through some flight schools to give their flying "skills" some believability, lots of schools and military bases taught them various things...all public record.

So, there they are on 9/11, rushing to get on their planes for another drill, but then the planes are taken over by remote guidance systems. If you think this can't be done, then give me the name of just ONE of those little pilots who fly cruise missiles.

The U.S. govt is not duly elected. Our voting system has been compromised to the point that gangsters are now being inserted into the White House and into other positions of power. So how do you think they'll behave, like saints? They're freakin' gangsters. They do what comes natural. They kill for power. Only, THIS group is under orders from the World Bank to destroy America. They're doing it by debasing the currency, destroying our military in wars intended to make us unpopular internationally, and...etc. I've sung this tune before. Their brass ring, though, is going to be the nuking of Iran. That country just announced that its nuclear plants are now all online, so that means that if the U.S. bombs them, they'll melt down. 17 plants in Iran, 17 Chernobyls resulting from the U.S. nuking a country in an act of sheer aggression. The world can't stand by and let that happen. The U.S. will have to be put down like a mad dog. We'll get the Nazi Germany treatment, and it'll all be on account of the American public didn't have the gumption to deal with a rogue government.

Things are bad, folks, and it didn't get this way because 19 buffoons with box cutters dashed from the titty bars to the passenger jets praising Allah. Wake up.

Hindenburg, no opinion.

Validity of Griffin's book--the guy's a theologian, among other things. He may be making a buck, but then it's in a good cause. And this book he wrote as a RESPONSE to a yellow journalism piece (see above). The Popular Mechanics article all the goosesteppers point to as Gospel is pure junk science. Written by the COUSIN of the fascist Homeland Security "Czar." Griffin just refutes the tripe point by point.


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 04 May 07 - 08:39 PM

" If you think this can't be done,"

Of course it can be done... We - THE Martians are doing it all the time. As a matter of fact, they made you post all that stuff just soi you would look stupid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: GUEST,Scary Kerry
Date: 04 May 07 - 11:45 PM

If a theologian telling you 9/11 was an inside job isn't for you, maybe this is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvfmZvppKKU

About 2 minutes long.


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Peace
Date: 04 May 07 - 11:54 PM

March, 1962. And the Generals were looking for a way to run the show. They wanted a hunting license, and 'faked' attacks inside America seemed a sure-fire way to get control. The idea has been around for a long time. In Europe, it was the Nazi justification for the invasion of Poland. Couldn't happen today, huh? Yeah, right. Operation Northwoods. Worth a look.


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 05 May 07 - 12:42 AM

Could a fake attack happen? Yes. Could it happen on this scale with no one involved coming forward? That's ridiculous. Is it worth a look?I gave the Loose Change movie a look. It does a good job of presenting the case, but the case is founded on supposition, guesswork, and wild speculations. Those who want to think the Bush Administration is truly evil and capable of anything may believe it, but it requires a suspension of logical thought.


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 05 May 07 - 01:12 AM

Scary

That video on the beach is interesting. I don't know how much credibility you can give the speakers, since they probably believe George Washington freed the slaves. But interesting, nonetheless.


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 May 07 - 05:25 PM

ye gods. That video clip may be only two minutes long but it was TOO long. Talk about trained monkeys...


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Peace
Date: 05 May 07 - 05:26 PM

They may be trained but they ain't house-broke yet . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 May 07 - 06:13 PM

Well, WOW, Scary! That sure convinces me!

Nothing like hearing it spoken by voices of authority.

Nope. Nothing like it!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: GUEST,Scary Kerry
Date: 06 May 07 - 11:21 PM

This about the bogus Jose Padilla "terrorism" case in the U.S. They can't even seat a jury. Potential jurors know they've been lied to about 9/11. This is excellent:

"I've been surprised at the number of our jurors who don't have an opinion about 9/11," U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke, who is presiding over the case and asks most of the juror questions, said Wednesday.

A cottage industry of conspiracy theorists has sprung up among academics and others who claim such things as that the U.S. was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, or that explosives planted inside the World Trade Center towers brought the buildings down rather than the jetliners that crashed into them.

To be sure, most jurors without a Sept. 11 opinion are aware that the attacks have been blamed on terrorists of some sort. But many seem unwilling to blame al-Qaida and its leader, Osama bin Laden — the conclusion reached by the national Sept. 11 Commission and the Bush administration and widely reported by news media.

http://www.onelocalnews.com/whiterockreviewer/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=105236


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Subject: RE: BS: Kerry acknowledges WTC7 demolition
From: GUEST,Scary Kerry
Date: 12 May 07 - 07:33 PM

(The official story of 9/11 gives 9:37 a.m. as the time the "plane hit the pentagon," but many clocks stopped at 9:31 and 9:32, and witnesses inside the building say there was an explosion at that time):

Converging Lines of Proof of a 9:32 Violent Event at the Pentagon on September 11, well before the Official Story says anything hit the building:

Multiple standard-issue, battery-operated wall clocks on the walls of the area of the Pentagon attacked on 9/11 -including one in the heliport just outside the west face- were stopped between 9:31 and 9:32h2;1/2 by a violent event, almost certainly a bomb or bombs inside the building and/or in a truck or construction trailer parked right outside the west face. The first Associated Press report, in fact, stated that the Pentagon had been damaged by a "booby trapped truck." The Navy posted the stopped heliport clock on an official website and another of the stopped clocks is in the 9/11 display at the Smithsonian Institution.[2] These are just some of the west section Pentagon clocks that stopped between 9:31 and 9:32h2;1/2 on September 11.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=33832&Disp=18

The writer of the article is Barbara Honegger, MS – Senior Military Affairs Journalist at the Naval Postgraduate School, the U.S. Navy's advanced science, technology and national security affairs university (1995 - present). White House Policy Analyst and Special Assistant to the Assistant to President Ronald Reagan (1981 - 1983).

http://patriotsquestion911.com/


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