BS: Remember 9/11

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 11 - 12:54 AM

OTHER THREAD.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: gnu
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 05:33 PM

It's a music thread above the line? Sounds odd.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 05:08 PM

There is a 10th anniversary thread above the line, FYI, y'all. I double-posted my last post here, but have gone on with further comments there.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 04:50 PM

Apparently the Mayor of New York has said there's no room for First Responders at tomorrow's service. But, there seems to be plenty for politicians..


No words really......

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: GUEST,Keith A of Hertford
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 03:58 PM

Some moving speaches at the Flight 93 service today.
Clinton was always a charismatic speaker, but today he is a politician without any further ambitions, and you know he speaks from the heart.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: gnu
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 02:09 PM

I won't forget. Every year, I get emails and sometimes gifts by post from the people I brought home so they could have a shower and a hot home cooked meal (my neighbours were doing the cooking), especially those with children that I put up overnight. I brought home 14 at a time in my truck so they could shower and get a break away from their makeshift accomodations at the coliseum. Atlantic Canada airports landed a lot of planes in short order.

Everyone wanted to watch the TV but after the first bunch, I unplugged it and said it hadn't worked for years. Couldn't stand to watch their reactions... when kids, and adults, started crying...

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Bettynh
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 02:05 PM

And we should remember the martyrdom of Ahmad Shah Massoud, who perhaps could have led Afghanistan to rationality if he hadn't been killed by al Qaeda two days before New York was attacked.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 12:39 PM

Just remember, 9/11 was not the beginning!

-Nov 4, 1979 - takeover of teheran embassy - first salvo in this third world war that has been being waged between the forces of fundamentalism (originally fundamentalist islam but the Xtian fundies are in too, now, thanks to Oslo) and the rest of civilization.

And the bombing by Hezbollah in April, 1983 that killed my father.

And all those planes blown out of the skies.

And all those embassies attacked, not just ours.

And all those hostages taken and individuals assassinated.

And the earlier bombing of the World Trade Center...

...and I would really like this list to not get longer.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 11:20 AM

There's a pretty fine line between 'remembering' tastefully and *wallowing* in it. Round number anniversaries tend toward the latter.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 10:41 AM

QUERY: How is it posible that anyone would FORGET Sept. 11th? Is all the media frenzy & hoopla really necessary? Or is it just to reinforce the culture of fear?

Queen of Fools turn around, life will be your folly
Wave your wand at those who will waste away and worry
Play them for the fools they are and make their steps up for them
A clock that's shaken hard enough, it cannot stay in rhythm.

    -Patrick Sky

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 23 Apr 11 - 03:45 AM

The thing is, my head kept asking me "WHY has National Geographic even gone down this road? Why are they even getting involved in this? Is this what they're about?"

...then I discovered that National Geographic is owned by The News Corporation which, in turn, is owned by Rupert Murdoch....I never knew that before, I have to say. I was totally unaware that Rupert Murdoch is linked to the National Geographic. How depressing is that? :0(


Thus, I've decided to stick with the opinions of the 9/11 Firefighters, Police, Military top brass, Emergency Workers, Architects, Engineers, Scientists and the Scholars too, all of whom have their own 9/11 Truth Websites, all asking the same questions, venting the same anxieties....because these guys not only know one helluva lot, but many of them were THERE at the time, cleaning up after countless shocking disasters throughout their working lives.

And...they have *nothing* to gain from their campaign whatsoever, apart from the truth.

Thank you anyway though.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 22 Apr 11 - 04:51 AM

Thank you for the video links, Bill.   

I'm up to the bit where they're talking about how they removed most of the evidence, at the moment.....in Part 2.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 21 Apr 11 - 08:08 PM

Fay Wray didn't die by violence, Bill, that's why.

And I'm real glad ya got it. Yessiree.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Apr 11 - 07:31 PM

What about Fay Wray memorial day?

As to OPINIONS, I just like to see both sides represented.

"...that's the only reason why I ever bother to post here.."

Ahh... got it!

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 21 Apr 11 - 06:55 PM

What makes any of you buttfuck morons here in tbis digital back alley think that mouthin' off yer big fat OPINIONS (and/or makin' smartass wisecracks) about 911 on Mudcat Cafe will change anything in regards to 911? It won't. Trust me. It's like pissin' in the wind to post anything on this forum about 911...or any other serious matter, come to think of it. It's like tryin' to have sex with a brick wall. It hurts. It don't work. It's a waste of yer time. And the wall ain't impressed.

Or do ya just like to hear yer own voices ringin' gloriously in yer pointy little heads as you tap the keys? ;-D Yeah, I bet that's it! Hell, that's the only reason why I ever bother to post here...there sure as hell ain't no useful reason to...so why wouldn't it be the same for the rest of you chumps?

So while I've very briefly got yer attention (as you read this)...and while yer dreamin' up the next smartass thing yer gonna say in response...just remember this: King Kong Memorial Day only comes one day a year. NEVER forget!!!

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Apr 11 - 05:53 PM

I should have realized someone would put them all on YouTube. Probably easier there.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Apr 11 - 05:51 PM

You won't read the pages *I* list, but you like videos, Lizzie....

Try some of these if they work over there.
There was a 2 hour program on the topic, and I guess they just have selected excerpts online.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Apr 11 - 10:08 AM

The charges were planted and indeed the entire conspiracy was carried out by the zombified souls from the Bermuda Triangle. They have formed a group known as "Flight 19" and they are responsible for the entire 9/11 debacle. Additionally they have been responsible for the Tea Party and the election of George Bush plus other mysterious and dumbfuck things such as the 9/11 Truthers.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 07:03 AM

Firefighters, Police and other witnesses talking about the many explosions that were heard.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: J-boy
Date: 10 Apr 11 - 11:36 PM

I have it on good authority that Bigfoot killed JFK.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 10 Apr 11 - 02:59 PM

The 9/11 I remember is the one on September 11th 1973 when Augusto Pinochet overthrew a legally elected government in Chile, herded thousands of young people into Santiago Stadium where they were raped, tortured and massacred. Among the victims was Victor Jara, who was recognised as a protest singer by one of the guards, taken aside and had his hands mashed to a pulp with an axe, and then became one of the 'disappeared'.
Pinochet enjoyed the full support of the US and the co-operation of the CIA, and thanks to the efforts of British prime minister Margaret Thatcher (an ardent admirer), who used her influence to prevent his coming to trial for war crimes, was allowed to die peacefully in his bed, unlike his victims.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: bobad
Date: 10 Apr 11 - 12:08 PM

More evidence illustrating to what lengths the US government has gone in order to cover up it's orchestration of 9/11 (clever bastard that GW)

Evidence against 9/11 plotters revealed

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 12:21 PM

Why the World Trade Center Buildings Collapsed, A Fire Chief's Assessment.

Do firefighters believe 9/11 conspiracy theories?

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 11:29 AM

More 'nutters' (as you would call them)....The New York Firefighters...

Some of these brave men didn't survive, but left behind their words as to what they were seeing and hearing. Others did survive, and are still using their words to tell the world what they saw and heard on that day...

So how do you explain all the glass that was blown out, in the foyer? I mean, the Firefighter himself tells you about it. The building hadn't yet come down, but the scene in the foyer was of an explosion, the force blowing *out* the windows, not in....according to the guys who were there, who were trained in these matters..and who are still, to this day, waiting for their many questions to be answered....

But hey, what do they know, right guys?

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Wesley S
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 11:25 AM

Robert Redford has directed a conspiracy movie. Here's a link to the preview.


Youtube link

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 11:19 AM

They were probably selling candy bars out of the bed......fund raiser I guess...............

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Wesley S
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 11:12 AM

Sorry Lizzie but I just don't understand -why was it part of the plot to drive around New York City the day of the attacks in a truck painted with planes flying into the World Trade Center?

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 08:48 AM

Well, the lassie who saw them apparently spoke the truth, just as you think your witnesses did...so who knows..Not much else has been heard of those guys since, although there's a TV interview with them out there, where again, they state they were there to document the evidence.

I tell you what though, if they had brought the George Washington Bridge to a standstill that would have created chaos for a very long time too...big bridge, horrendous even...I was scared shitless going across that thing, all those cars, all those traffic lanes...Yikes!

Blaming Jews is no different from blaming Arabs I guess....and it's not the ordinary Jewish people that are being 'blamed' here, but the Zionists, who, like any other extremist group will have folks in there who are heartless and don't give a damn about anything other than their causes.

Extremists are Extremists, no matter their religion, their nationality or their skin colour.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 08:45 AM

Once again Wesley I must remind you not to bring any form of logic or reasoning into this discussion!   Honestly, I am so ahamed........I thought you knew better...........................

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Wesley S
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 08:33 AM

So if I saw the video correctly - part of the plot was to drive around New York City the day of the attacks in a truck painted with planes flying into the World Trade Center?

What purpose did that serve?

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 08:24 AM

When you go deep down the Conspiracy Hole I guess there is nothing you won't believe. I have it on good authority that the Holocaust was a Jewish plan to make the Nazis look bad.................


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: bobad
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 07:57 AM

"When the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) first released its 2003 report Unraveling Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories, we said then that these conspiracy theories were likely to form the basis of a new anti-Semitic canard that would linger for decades and be used to demonize Jews and Israel. Three years later, this prediction has proven to be true, as these theories gain more currency around the world, particularly in Muslim and Arab countries.

Blaming Jews for manipulating world events for their own benefit is not new -- it is at the very root of anti-Semitism. These theories are a continuation of age-old allegations that there is a secret and powerful group of Jews who regularly plot deceitful, sinister actions in order to gain power. These allegations were behind the fabricated anti-Semitic publication, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. More than a century later, Jews are still fighting against this dangerous scapegoating, which has made them a constant target for hatred."

http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_Semitism_Domestic/9_11_conspiracy_theories.htm

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 07:04 AM

I think one of you mentioned above about how the statements of witnesses who were actually THERE are so important...

I completely agree.....

So....here ya go...

Excellent words in the song at the end too........


Strange to be there to document evidence on an attack that apparently not a single person was aware about, other than a bloke in a cave and his accomplices...

But then again, maybe that's just lil' ol' me refusing to toe the official line and daring to ask questions....

Watch out, guys, here comes your Emperor...and once again, he has no clothes on...honest, he doesn't....He's stark naked...to the point of transparency...but you see him in a Saville Row suit all the time...

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Lighter
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 07:20 PM

I thought you could recognize satire when you saw it. You really should read things through before you reply.

OTOH, there must be people reading this right now who believe that the History Channel is part of the coverup. It's owned by Disney, Hearst, and NBC Universal, all big fat corporations with connection to billionaires. Follow the money....

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 06:28 PM

"What about the absolutely irrefutable fact, shown in a conspiracy theory video, that the hole in the Pentagon was shaped nothing nothing like the wings and fuselage of a jetliner?"

Oh, I HOPE you are kidding. It has been explained 6 ways from Sunday why you don't see a wing shaped holes in the Pentagon...like you would in a cartoon.

***"Wings are fragile and break off. They have MUCH less mass than the basic bulk of the plane." ***

They DID find small pieces of wings....a couple with identifiable markings.
What one needs to do is LOOK at the images of various plane parts, both on the lawn, and inside the building and read the eyewitness reports of those who SAW the plane.....then work backwards KNOWING that it waqs a plane. This is what the 'real' experts did.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 04:04 PM

***LOL***.........wait.....maybe I ought to be crying here...................***sigh***........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 04:01 PM

Yeah, Spaw, but of late bullshit is in the saddle and rides mankind.

(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 03:55 PM

And the word I have best for it is HORSESHIT!!!!!

The whole Bldg. 7 issue has been debunked so completely it is to laugh that anyone still pushes it........or should I say "pull?" Notice how the truthers no longer make a big deal out of the word pull being used.   Feel free to read and examine a different site......CLICK HERE


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 01:09 PM

From 'The Folks'....including folks who are architects and structural engineers.......

The word you'll hear most on this is...."IMPOSSIBLE!", so be forewarned...

REMEMBER BUILDING 7?

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Stringsinger
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 12:41 PM

One of the biggest problems regarding how well the experience of 911 is as a teaching moment is the lack of real information we have about it emanating from the white-washed official reports.

This is why it is indelibly drawn on our memory, it was never resolved.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Lighter
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 11:29 AM

Hey, Bill. What about the absolutely irrefutable fact, shown in a conspiracy theory video, that the hole in the Pentagon was shaped nothing nothing like the wings and fuselage of a jetliner?

So the hole could easily have been made by planted explosives, which matches up with the security camera stuff.

Of course, I saw the alleged conpiracy video on a History Channel show that argued against a conspiracy. But the History Channel might well be part of the coverup....

On the other hand, it's also the channel that keeps telling us that history itself got its biggest boost from space aliens, despite the coverup by mainstream "archaeologists" and "historians."

And the History Channel should know....

My head hurts.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: artbrooks
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 11:15 AM

This one?

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 11:06 AM

I started a thread titled 9-11 anniversary where I recounted the entire experience of my neighbor who worked at the Pentagon.
My interview of her took over an hour.

It was highly praised
I wonder if it can be found.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 10:52 AM

I heard a rumor that some crazy Saudi named 'bin Laden' financed a scheme to train 4 teams of young men to hijack 4 planes and crash them into US targets! Pretty far out, huh?
But that's SO improbable.... I think it's more likely that our government either planned or looked the other way while hundreds of anonymous 'experts' rigged explosives, programmed missiles, sabotaged radar, faked records, mentally inserted false memories into the minds of eyewitnesses, doctored thousands of photos, prevented the Air Force from interfering, spirited Saudi families out of the states, warned Jews not to go to work, and THEN managed to get ignorant and/or corrupt 'officials' to provide a fake 'commission' to do a superficial 'investigation' designed to hide their nefarious activities and blame the whole thing on that silly bin Laden fellow.
.....oh...all those billions to chase bin Laden? They were just rewards to the Military-Industrial complex for complicity in the scheme!

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Wesley S
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 10:00 AM

There are a lot of these "inside jobbers" that are convinced that no jewish people were in the towers that day. I guess they all got the memo to stay home. Strange that not one of them has come forward to admit it......

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: kendall
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 09:15 AM

To hear the flag wavers and Sabre rattlers talk one would think so.

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Mar 11 - 09:02 AM

Can't be- only Red-Blooded Americans died in the towers, right? RIGHT??

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Mar 11 - 05:19 PM

I learned just last Saturday that a Japanese friend of ours perished in 9-11

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Mar 11 - 05:12 PM

have you considered that it might have been the tri-lateral commision that was behind it? Or SPECTRE?

Not a chance.

The Illuminati, for sure. Unless, of course, it was the Knights Templar.
Or the Millenium Group. Or the Unions.

Jeez, if only we still had the Commies to blame these things on.....

Subject: RE: BS: Remember 9/11
From: Wesley S
Date: 28 Mar 11 - 10:06 AM

Right Lighter. And some of the folks I talked to wrote those textbooks.