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BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

pdq 17 Jun 11 - 03:22 PM
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Sawzaw 17 Jun 11 - 02:32 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: pdq
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 03:22 PM

"The Tea Party claims to want to follow the Constitution. The document doesn't mention gay people or marriage..."

An attempt by the poster to divert discussion of fiscal and governmental issues to social issues.

We have a government ehat spends $1.00 for each 57¢ it takes in. Enough is enough. Balance the spending with federal income, or at least make an attempt.

Churches are involved in social issues. Take the subject of with your priest or Rabbi.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: John P
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 02:51 PM

The Tea Party claims to want to follow the Constitution. The document doesn't mention gay people or marriage, but it does place a lot of importance on equal rights and equal treatment under the law. Here are a few items from a quick internet search about whether the movement is, at least in part, bigoted and/or just doesn't understand how our government (as spelled out by our Constitution) works. There's LOTS more where these came from. If they don't want to be called racist, bigoted, or ignorant, they should stop acting like it, and start slapping down their members who do.

From a new survey by the University of Washington: "The data suggests that people who are Tea Party supporters have a higher probability"—25 percent, to be exact—"of being racially resentful than those who are not Tea Party supporters," says Christopher Parker, who directed the study. "The Tea Party is not just about politics and size of government. The data suggests it may also be about race."

From a New York Time/CBS poll:
"According to the New York Times and CBS, only about 16 percent of Tea Party activists support same-sex marriage. Most (52 percent) think that the problems of people of color get too much attention. Most (59 percent) think that Glenn Beck is a pretty righteous dude."

From Montana Tea Party leader Tim Ravndal's facebook page:
"Marriage is between a man and a woman period! By giving rights to those otherwise would be a violation of the constitution and my rights."
From one of his friends: "I think fruits are decorative. Hang up where they can be seen and appreciated. Call Wyoming for display instructions." Wyoming, you'll remember, was the scene where in 1998, Matthew Shepard was brutally beaten and hung up in a field. Shepard died several days after he was found. Ravndal's responce: "Where can I get that Wyoming printed instruction manual?"

Freshman Tea Party GOP Congresswoman Vicky Hartzler (R-MI)compared same-sex marriage to polygamy, incest, marrying children, and even to a three-year old driving a car.

Michelle Bachman:
Both she and her husband, by all accounts her most trusted political adviser, believe that homosexuality can be cured. Speaking to a Christian radio station about gay teenagers last year, Marcus, who treats gay people in his counseling practice, said, "Barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined, and just because someone feels this or thinks this, doesn't mean that we're supposed to go down that road."

In 2004, Bachmann gave a speech warning that gay marriage would lead to schoolchildren being indoctrinated into homosexuality. She wanted everyone to know, though, that she doesn't hate gay people. "Any of you who have members of your family in the lifestyle, we have a member of our family that is," she said. "This is not funny. It's a very sad life. It's part of Satan, I think, to say that this is gay."

An Ohio Tea Party listing of what has to be in place for a Republican to get their support:
1. The Right to Life is a Constitutional right, therefore innocent human beings should have legal protection from conception until natural death.
2. The regulation of Carbon Dioxide in our atmosphere should be left to God and not government and I oppose all measures of Cap and Trade as well as the teaching of global warming theory in our schools.
3. Marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman, any other type of Union is not marriage.
4. Children should not be placed into foster homes where the parents are homosexual, bisexual, or transgender.
5. Parental consent should be required for sex education that teaches more than direct abstinence.
10. I oppose the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy of the military and believe that all same sex partners should be banned from combat duty in the military because of the propensity to transmit blood-borne diseases in the theatre of battle.
11. I support a law that will allow the people to place on a ballot all collective bargaining agreements of all government associations, unions, and guilds, for their expressed approval. Defeat of such an agreement would mean government workers would not be immune from the free market system.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 02:32 PM

OOOPS I left something out:

But it wasn’t just black patriots who came to the Crispus Attucks Tea Party.

At least half of the 75 or so people who attended the first meeting are white and have been defending the rights of taxpayers for a while.

Then there’s Marie Johnson, a longtime Black Democrat. She’s fed up with the direction the country is going and wanted to see what the movement is all about.

It (race) didn’t make any difference to me as long as I had a tea party and we get together, said Johnson.

Tea Party patriots are supposed to be racists (even though many people of various skin colors, blacks, Asians, Native Americans, Hispanics, support the Tea Party movement and attend events, and even though several black Americans are leaders within the Tea Party movement), yet according to this report about half of the people at this Black Tea Party were white.

In other words, white Tea Party patriots chose to go to an event with black Americans. These white Tea Partiers made a conscious decision to spend their time around black Tea Partiers. These racist white Tea Party patriots went of their own volition to an event where they knew there would be a lot of black people.

I don’t know about you, but that doesn’t sound like a single one of the racists I’ve ever encountered. Only in the mind of a Leftist does that sound like racist behavior.

That can’t be good at all for liberals, who are seeing their propaganda campaigns falling flat all round them. The Democrat Party once had a lock on the votes of black Americans by shamelessly pandering to them, but the Americans of all skin colors, black Americans are waking up to the empty promises of liberalism. One of the Crispus Attucks Tea Party attenders, Texas State Representative James Early White (R-TX District 12), a black Texan, is proof.

You see, like Marie Johnson, Tea Party patriots don’t care what color your skin is. It’s the Left that’s obsessed with skin color. As long as your heart beats red-white-and-blue, you’ll fit right in at any Tea Party event.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 01:41 PM

HMMMMMMMMMM this stuff I Googled up don't exactly jive with what the perfesser says about the racist Tea Party but he ain't that good at splanin things so I won't ask him why or he might get all mad and start callin me names:

    A black TEA party group started in Houston. It's called the Crispus Attucks Tea Party. (I'll leave it to you to find out about Crispus Attucks, if you don't already know the name.) Does this mean that the regular TEA party really is racist? Of course not. Nor is this new group. It's actually a neighborhood TEA party group for the 3rd ward in Houston, which is mostly a black neighborhood. We have neighborhood TEA party groups all over the country. I'm thrilled to learn that one has started in Houston's 3rd ward. (And, by the way, the supposed racists of the other TEA party groups in the area....you know the "all white old guy TEA party members" that everyone talks about were welcome at this initial meeting and many showed up. It's said that attendance was about half white and half black.) I'm also thrilled to know that this will be a model of TEA parties for black neighborhoods all over the U.S.
    The 3rd district is Represented by Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, and was the focal point of rampant ACORN-style vote fraud and widespread voter intimidation this past November. It is thus fitting that this tea party had its inaugural meeting right down the street from Lee’s residence.
    With the typical politesse and considerate attitude of conservatives always left unreported by the press Rep. Lee was extended an invitation to the event. And with typical leftist rudeness, Lee snubbed it. Wonder why? These are her constituents, after all. I posted about Congresswoman Lee the other day. (You have to see this. Lee claims that repealing ObamaCare would violate the 5th and 14th amendments.)It's no wonder that the first black TEA party started in her district. Here's part of the press release provided by the Crispus Attucks TEA Party.
    Black Conservatives Form The Crispus Attucks Tea Party in Houston Texas. Our primary objective is to break the cycles of dependency and decay that continue to anesthetize and hold captive too many Black families and neighborhoods. We provide continuing series of speakers, seminars, training and practical business support services designed to help Blacks fully assimilate into and be competitive in American society. Our objective is to teach all Americans the fullness of the history of Blacks in America and to help Blacks gain control of their lives and the destiny of their children. Only by understanding our full and true history will we all of America be liberated.
    Lessons learned from decades of intrusive Social Engineering, Social Justice Policies and the Welfare State are left out of text books and routinely ignored by those profiting from them, however, they cannot be denied. One need only take a walk through what is left of our Black communities. Houston’s Sugar Hillbecame 3rd Ward which was a thriving Black enterprise zone without any government programs or subsidies. Enter stage left, The Great Societywhich offeredAn FDR Chicken In Every Pot and An LBJ Check In Every Mail Box. Now Houston’s 3rd Ward looks like a war zone and Black families are almost extinct. Spawned in the ’60′s, these social engineering experiments, government programs and the arrogant utopian value systems which produced them, continue to produce urban decay, increasing cyclical welfare dependency, increasing tax burdens (for those who pay taxes), the demise of the Black family, fatherless homes, skyrocketing out of wedlock births, more abortions than births, a rise in Black militancy and separatist activity and theft of real political power from all of those living in Black neighborhoods.
    Neither political party has been intellectually honest with itself or Blacks. The Crispus Attucks Tea Party unleashes the anesthetized political giant rendered helpless by an unending stream of government programs funded by tax dollars. Programs, welfare checks and the demise of pride and the work ethic have robbed Blacks of their identities and their dignity. They have devastated Black neighborhoods and rendered them politically and economically impotent. The Crispus Attucks Tea Party will shift political power away from race bating politicians, games of Three Card Monty played by highly skilled political operators and race hustlers who base all political activities and campaigns on race. Operating within Black districts these charlatans have proven incapable of acting in the best interest of those they claim to represent.
    The Crispus Attucks Tea Party is part of America’s rapidly growing Tea Party movement. Starting with Houston’s 3rd Ward, it will focus all of the power amassed across America by the Tea Party movement directly into targeted Black neighborhoods across America. Yes !! .. Our army operates .. Inside The Belly Of The Beast . The Crispus Attucks Tea Party is a non-partisan, neighborhood movement. It provides a base of operations for the descendants of Black Slavery who realize that welfare checks and government dependency are key elements of their destruction. The corresponding destructive cycles have destroyed lives, families and their neighborhoods. Government dependency holds Blacks hostage. It precludes true liberty and forever blocks full assimilation. Our mission includes building series of strong neighborhood operating bases made of business people, elected officials, Constituents and Voters, living and working in hostile areas . Intellectually honest Constituents living in Black neighborhoods want them to be safe and to thrive while becoming less dependent on the tax dollars of others. These Constituents want disciplined classrooms and globally competitive educations for their children. They want full control of the schools, stores, businesses within their neighborhoods and real futures for their children. These things will come only when Constituents living in these neighborhoods feel that they are worthy of them. The Crispus Attucks Tea Party will help Blacks take those steps forward. The Tea Party moves .. Into The Belly Of The Beast .
    The Crispus Attucks Tea Party promotes and fights for the founding principles originally defined by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Our core principles include personal responsibility, education, a constrained and transparent government, a balanced budget, self sufficiency, full assimilation and the development of viable Black businesses. that create jobs. We identify & vet viable Conservative candidates that are willing to fight for our mission, our principles and the issues we embrace. Candidates and elected officials who are commitment to American, want to maximize the value American Citizenship, share our values and demonstrate full support of our issue oriented efforts are welcome to support them. For more information on our inaugural meeting or the Crispus Attucks Tea Party


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 12:33 PM

Check out a lot of the ones around this one!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 11:29 AM

Bobert has not answered my question ever. His last resort is to claim he did.

What was the answer I didn't like Bobert? You holding out??? You refuse to answer a straight up question?

Bobert can't name or enumerate any of the Dixiecrats even though he claims to be an educated expert on the subject.

Professer Bobert:

Students, we are gathered here today to learn about the shitload of Dixiecrats I told you about when I said "There were a shitload of them" So Google it yourself and prove I am right like always (no brag just fact). I don't have the time.

But perfesser, I see in the Google results you told us to read that it was a myth. That the Dixiecrats dissolved back into the Democratic party.

I have now spoken and answered all of your childish and moronic questions.


But when I Google "Southern Strategy" I am told it was a myth.

Also it says Pat Bucannan invented the term and it referred to Nixon's declaration that "we would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states rights, human rights, small government and a strong national defense, and leave it to the "party of Maddox, Mahoney and Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice." And because of that he got 25% of the black vote in the south.

Can you please explain why that is that perfesser?

And what did LBJ mean when he said "we will have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years"? Was that a strategy to win the south?

C'mon Perfesser, you are letting us down after claiming you know all this stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 09:25 AM

I didn't know they ironed them, GfinS... You holding out???

Don't much matter if it's KKK or whatever... The Tea Party ain't for no black folks... Maybe that's part of its appeal to angry white people???

B~

p.s. Say "Hey" to mom, fir me...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 09:01 AM

Yeah?...and my mother is coming in, late this afternoon. Son is picking her up from the airport. True story!
....As for the KKK'ers, really, there are none that I know of here. Maybe all over the south. But none here...I'm, quite a way west of you...but then you know the south....Sorta 'Political Neanderthals'!....Oh,..ahem, (Clears throat)......I ALMOST forgot....Play yo' hah-monicah, boy!! ..Do it with that geetah, in yo' hands!....Play it real sweet, and low.....make them sheet-sters think about sweet times.......make em fo-get about ironing them sheet dunce hats!!....

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 08:30 AM

There are KKKers everywhere, GfinS...

The Tea Party??? Remember Glen Becks rally in DC??? Well, the had a picture of the crowd in the Washington Post and of the 300 of so folks in the pucture there was not one black face...

Hmmmmmmm???

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck!!!

Now, as fir my pudder and music, maybe tonight...

We have grand youngin' here today and I gotta play entertainment/social director for the youngin'... If it was up to me I've get the kid a stick with a nail in it and tell him to "go play" but the P-Vine says these kids don't play with sticks no more??? I don't get it...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Jun 11 - 12:59 AM

Well, there ain't no KKK'rs up here....but some folks are likin' the Tea Party. Me?..As I've said before, "I'm not with the 'party'..I'm with the band!"
...as far as 'takin' it to the bank'..last I heard, it was a sperm bank, and someone was tryin' to leave an unauthorized deposit!!...one of the tellers wouldn't allow his withdrawal......then found out, he really didn't have any real interest!!...that just compounded. What's worse, is the hired two homosexuals with hemorrhoids. Some of the customers were complaining about the speed bumps!!...I didn't know what the hell they were bitching about. The drive up teller told me all about it....then handed me a cheeseburger and fries!
...but all I ordered was a taco.
Never been back, since!

Go to a friend's house, if you have any yet, and click on the licks. Jeez, those are good ones....and got more, too.
I don't step in shit, play with shit, eat shit, or stuff it in my nose...OR EARS!!!..so I'm picky about what I listen to!!!...HOWEVER>>>
I sure read a lot of it, on here!! (Good thing this ain't in Braille!)

Now Get Busy!!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 10:51 PM

I ain't got the time for no pudder right now... I livin' in a house with about 200 unpacked boxes and a wife wanting 500 plants planted yesterday... I livin' with a 1953 Spartanette trailer (my music studio) out back screaming to get blocked up and rewired and back up... I livin' with a pond about to go dry in 10 days if we don't get about 5 inches of rain (ain't gonna happen)... I livin' with the largest family reunion in history comin' at me 4th o' July...

But, I just took a few minutes off and wiggled my boney butt into the little area that I presently have carved out as my geetar space and asked myself, "What do I want to play (here) that I ain't never played before?"... Came up with an old Leo Kottke lick called something like "Machine #356" and hit it purdy good... Feel like Lightnin' Slim's "Nothin' But the Devil" before turnin' in and maybe Blind Lemon Jefferson's "One Kind Favor"...

BTW, for the record???

Having been born in the South, raised in the South, educated in the South and lived most of my life here in the South, the Tea Party is filled with ex-Klaners... You can take that to the bank!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 10:21 PM

No sound??..No practice??...No great influences in your music from me???...NO WONDER YOU'VE FALLEN INTO THE ABYSS OF STUPID POLITICS!!!

GET YOUR FUCKING COMPUTER TO WORK!!!...JEEZ.....AND WHEN YOU DO, GO BACK TO THOSE LINKS....I thought you were able to hear them....I mean, how did you know it was good music, if you couldn't hear it???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 09:37 PM

Still no sound, GfinS....

As fir my geetar??? I can play anything that I want to... What more is there??? Might of fact, about 20 years ago my hands came to me and told me that they had declared independence... I know that my right hand was leaning toward it but I was hopin' to convine my left hand that it needed to stay in the fold, so to speak... But, no, they both told me to **** off... Since then I have tried to make suggestions here and there and I get they same from them... *** off, Boberdz!!!

I think that is terribly rude... I mean, hey, who's the boss here, anyway???

I donno about my pudder and sound... I plugged my headphones in and nuthin'... I need some time to mess with the wires... 'er rap the pudder with a small hammer... I donno...

Hate to be missin' all this music...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 09:13 PM

...and then there's this one...not at 'Fox'

Sure you don't need to 'practice on your 'geetar'??'

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 08:54 PM

Sounds like true dedication, to me!!...(clears throat). Hey, as long as you're at it,..and HATE Fox 'News'...check this out!.....Just HOW could they do this??!!??....but I could!!

Bobert might not like this...........(wink)

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Jun 11 - 02:47 PM

I get in my hour a day no matter what else I'm doing... I really don't need any practice on the geetar but have been having problems remembering verses... To my own songs!!!

I found the headphones... Now I need a longer cord fir them 'cause the pudder ain't close enough fir me to see the screen and listen at the same time...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 11:41 PM

Now the middle break starts a little off, (in my opinion), but he pulls it off, as he goes......(once he gets going, I Love the instrumental playing, 'against the beat'!!!!!

Here, Bobert, get your headphones.

Grab a lick or two!.....(practice, practice, practice!)

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 08:03 PM

I answered your moronish, childish question a long time ago...

You just didn't like the answer...

Tough!!!

Get a life, sawz...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 02:30 PM

Still no answer from the highly educated expert on racisim.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 12:47 PM

My humble apologies to radishes everywhere.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 10:08 AM

You, Don, have insulted the entire radish kingdom!!!

For shame!!!

B~

p.s. Congrats, GfinS... I was kinda hopin' for that 800 myself... Oh well...

BTW, does anyone else hear a pesky gnat buzzin' 'round the kitchen or is it just my imagination??? lol...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 02:43 AM

How 'bout that?...800!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 01:43 AM

I never called the Tea Party a terrorist organization, GfS. I think the Tea Party is an aggregate of mixed nuts with the collective intelligence of a radish, but not a terrorist organization. Among other things, it's hard to think of it as an organization at all.

But anyone who takes a firearm to a rally or political meeting and brandishes it is thug and a hooligan, no matter how "patriotic" they think they are. Simple as that.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 01:26 AM

Here we go again.........You're the one who brought it up!


(...or his he being 'satirical'?.....can't tell.)

OK..I give up. What's the funny part?

Oh yeah..Tea Party.....terrorist organization.....

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 12:35 AM

Still no answer from the highly educated expert on racisim.

All that is needed is a list, even a partial list of that "shitload of Dixiecrats" that turned into Republicans for Bobert's claim to have some credibility.

Also he tries to cook up and project a connection between a fellow guitar player, the Tea Party, the KKK and terrorisim with his broad brush.

The liberal Daily Kos website observed that, "Obviously Stack was not a mentally healthy person, and he was embittered at capitalism, including crony capitalism, and health insurance companies and the government." They also stated that Stack could not be connected with the popular Tea Party movement.

The FBI stated that it was investigating the incident "as a criminal matter of an assault on a federal officer" and that it was not being considered terrorism.

The United States Department of Homeland Security issued a statement saying that the incident did not appear to be linked to organized international terrorist groups.

Austin Tea Party director Greg Holloway said Stack was not a member of the Austin Tea Party. His name does not appear on any of their contact lists. He does not know of any tea party leader who ever met him.

National tea party leader Everett Wilkinson also poured cold water on any links to Tea Party groups. As far as I know, Joseph Andrew Stack was not a member of the tea party movement.

So what inside information does Bobert have that says Stack was a Tea Partyer? or a Terrorist? Or he had anything to do with the KKK?

Will he tell us or will he weasel out?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Jun 11 - 12:31 AM

GfS, other than my last post, YOU seem to be the one who keeps bringing up my intellect. I have no problem recognizing the light in others. When it's there. And their intellect. When there is some. Lots of really bright people here, in both senses.

What's your problem? Do you feel intimidated?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 11:37 PM

Don Firth: "GfS, light shines out of my inner being both from my music AND my intellect.
Do you have light shining out of your inner being? And where does it shine out from?

No, don't answer that! The world doesn't really want to know!"

Now if you could manage to get 'self' out of they way, the light would have free travel through.....and you might not be so...umm...indecisive,
and recognize the light in others, and welcome truth when confronting it!....................(instead of calling attention to your 'intellect'!) Fair enough?

~*Sigh*~

Winkin' at Ya',

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 09:44 PM

GfS, light shines out of my inner being both from my music AND my intellect.

Do you have light shining out of your inner being? And where does it shine out from?

No, don't answer that! The world doesn't really want to know!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 08:01 PM

Man, I gotta find my headphones...

What GfinS lacks in real world understanding she more than makes up in finding good music...

Hmmmmmm???

What box are the headphones in????

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 07:48 PM

Oh, here's a couple of cool music links. This one is the song before, but with Bowie singing it, with clips from the film:
Bowie and Metheny

and this one, check out his 'guitar'

.....Metheny and Jopek

Monkee fans probably aren't interested!

Enjoy!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 07:41 PM

Sure I do!!!.....I cracked up, after reading your latest post....


Don: "That's IT!! You DON'T recognize satire!
Boy, that explains a lot!"

Other than that, any, and every one playing partisan politics, and driving the 'issues' wedge, is just thinking too small...Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the financial/Geo-political/globalists are making your decisions for you, and you can't say 'shit', as long as you keep your heads in the 'issues' cat box!
Watch this: Romney is a carbon copy of 'Flip-Flop Barack', who is a carbon copy of 'Bush the Wonder Brain', which is a carbon copy of 'Cigar Sniffer Clinton', who, as just the same cut, as "Big CIA Papa Bush", whose Daddy, Forrest opened up the China/business relations..on down. Gosh, what do the y all have in common??....and it's NOT all about China, either.....unless, of course, you're still into, "Well it's common in the animal world"....or just a parade of unconnected, random acts of stupidity!1"
Don, I think, that you think too highly of your intellect, to not think this through. Come on,...some people are 'rootin' for you!!!
(Note to Ebbie: Thanks for the hot tip on 'rooting"!)

Still wishing You the Best, in Hopes the Music Side prevails, and shines light in and out of your inner being!!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 07:05 PM

She missed more than a few school days, Don...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 02:26 PM

That's IT!! You DON'T recognize satire!

Boy, that explains a lot!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 01:13 PM

I don't know what the hell you've been smoking or ingesting, GfS, but it's softened your brain. You don't recognize satire when you read it?

You're missing out on a lot in life.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 11:57 AM

Again, Blowhard Bobert refuses to answer a straight up question but instead puts the burden of proof on others and can only back it up with ad hominem attacks.

Wikipedia names one Dixiecrat and says: By 1950, nearly all the Dixiecrats had returned to the Democratic Party.

States' Rights Democratic Party (Dixiecrats)
Founded         1948 (1948)
Dissolved         1948 (1948)
Preceded by         Democratic Party
Succeeded by         Democratic Party
Ideology         States' rights,
Social conservatism, Racial segregation


Here Bobert, read this and it will prove to you that your attempt to whitewash Democrats using the Dixiecrat myth is just that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 10:02 AM

Sawz,

There isn't any reason to respond to your moronic questions.... You certainly have the skills to Google up "Dixiecrats"... There's plenty of info on them...

There's also lots of information on the "Southern Strategy"...

You are nothing but an obsessive pest and, frankly, not worth my time with your childish and moronic questions...

Bye, part 385...

Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 09:47 AM

Joseph Stack played bass guitar in The Billy Eli Band
The 2010 Austin suicide attack occurred on February 18, 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, crashed into Building I of the Echelon office complex in Austin, Texas, United States, killing himself and Internal Revenue Service manager Vernon Hunter. Thirteen others were injured, two seriously. The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) field office was located in a four-story office building along with other state and federal government agencies. Prior to the crash, Stack had posted a suicide note dated February 18, 2010 to his business website.
      Approximately an hour before the crash, Stack allegedly set fire to his $230,000 house located on Dapplegrey Lane in North Austin. He then drove to a hangar he rented at Georgetown Municipal Airport, approximately 20 miles to the north. He boarded his single-engine Piper Dakota airplane and was cleared to take off around 9:45 a.m. Central Standard Time. He indicated to the control tower his flight would be "going southbound, sir." After taking off his final words were "thanks for your help, have a great day."
      About ten minutes later his plane descended and collided at full speed into Echelon I, a building containing offices for 190 IRS employees, resulting in a large fireball and explosion. The building is located near the intersection of Research Boulevard (U.S. Route 183) and Mopac Expressway (Loop 1).
      The plane was piloted by Andrew Joseph Stack III of the Scofield Farms neighborhood in North Austin, who worked as an embedded software consultant. He grew up in Pennsylvania and had two brothers and two sisters, was orphaned at age four, and spent some time at a Catholic orphanage. He graduated from the Milton Hershey School in 1974 and studied engineering at Harrisburg Area Community College from 1975 to 1977 but did not graduate. His first marriage to Ginger Stack, which ended in divorce, produced a daughter, Samantha Bell. In 2007 Stack had remarried to Sheryl Housh who had a daughter from a previous marriage.
      In 1985, Stack, along with his first wife, incorporated Prowess Engineering. In 1994, he failed to file a state tax return. In 1998, the Stacks divorced and a year later his wife filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy, citing IRS liabilities totaling nearly $126,000. In 1995, Stack started Software Systems Service Corp, which was suspended in 2004 for non-payment of state taxes. It was revealed in CNN and ABC news broadcasts by another software consultant who testified that the IRS had taken away a tax status for software consultants, which might have set off the incident with Stack.
      Stack obtained a pilot's license in 1994 and owned a Velocity Elite XL-RG plane, in addition to the Piper Dakota (aircraft registration N2889D) he flew into the Echelon building. He had been using the Georgetown Municipal Airport for four and a half years and paid $236.25 a month to rent a hangar. There has been speculation that Stack replaced seats on his aircraft with extra drums of fuel prior to the collision.
      Stack's accountant confirmed that he was being audited by the IRS for failure to report income at the time of the incident. On the morning of the crash, Stack posted a suicide note on his website, embeddedart.com. The HTML source code of the web page shows the letter was composed using Microsoft Word starting two days prior, February 16, at 19:24Z (1:24 p.m. CST). The document also shows that it was saved 27 times with the last being February 18 at 06:42Z (12:42 a.m. CST).
      In the suicide note, he begins by expressing displeasure with the government, the bailout of financial institutions, politicians, the conglomerate companies of General Motors, Enron and Arthur Andersen, unions, drug and health care insurance companies, and the Catholic Church. He then describes his life as an engineer; including his meeting with a poor widow who never got the pension benefits she was promised, the effect of the Section 1706 of Tax Reform Act of 1986 on independent contractor engineers, the September 11 attacks airline bailouts that only benefited the airlines but not the suffering engineers and how a CPA he hired seemed to side with the government to take extra tax money from him. His suicide note included criticism of the FAA, the George W. Bush administration, and a call for violent revolt.
      The suicide note also mentions, several times, Stack's having issues with taxes, debt, and the IRS and his having a long-running feud with the organization. While the IRS also has a larger regional office in Austin, the field office located in Echelon I performed tax audits, seizures, investigations and collections.
      The suicide note ended with: "         I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let's try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.
      The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
      Killed in the incident along with Stack was Vernon Hunter, a 68-year-old Revenue Officer Group Manager for the IRS. Thirteen people were reported as injured, two of them critically. Debris from the crash reportedly struck a car being driven on the southbound access road of Route 183 in front of the building, shattering the windshield. Another driver on the southbound access road of Route 183 had his windows and sunroof shattered during the impact, and had debris fall inside his car, yet escaped uninjured. Robin Dehaven, a glass worker and former combat engineer for the United States Army, saw the collision while commuting to his job, and used the ladder on his truck to rescue five people from the building. By coincidence, the Travis County Hazardous Materials Team — an inter-agency group of firefighters from outside the City of Austin — had just assembled for training across the freeway from the targeted building, observed the low and fast flight of Stack's plane, and heard the blast impact. They immediately responded, attacking the fire and initiating search-and-rescue. Several City of Austin fire engines for the area of the Echelon building were already deployed at the fire at Stack's home at the time of the impact.
      The United States Department of Homeland Security issued a statement saying that the incident did not appear to be linked to organized international terrorist groups. The company hosting embeddedart.com, T35 hosting, took Stack's website offline "due to the sensitive nature of the events that transpired in Texas this morning and in compliance with a request from the FBI." Several groups put up fake Joe Stack Facebook pages following the incident and the news of the accompanying manifesto. These were immediately shut down by Facebook staff.
      The Federal Bureau of Investigation stated that it was investigating the incident "as a criminal matter of an assault on a federal officer" and that it was not being considered terrorism at this time. However, two members of the United States House of Representatives made statements to the contrary. Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) stated, "Like the larger-scale tragedy in Oklahoma City, this was a cowardly act of domestic terrorism." Mike McCaul (R-Texas), told a reporter that, "it sounds like it [was a terrorist attack] to me." Nihad Awad, the Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), is also asking the federal government to classify this as an act of terrorism. In a statement on February 19, he said, "Whenever an individual or group attacks civilians in order to make a political statement, that is an act of terror. Terrorism is terrorism, regardless of the faith, race or ethnicity of the perpetrator or the victims. If a Muslim had carried out the IRS attack, it would have surely been labeled an act of terrorism." Georgetown University Professor Bruce Hoffman stated that for this to be considered an act of terrorism, "there has to be some political motive and it has to send a broader message that seeks some policy change. From what I've heard, that doesn't appear to be the case. It appears he was very mad at the [IRS] and this was a cathartic outburst of violence. His motivation was the key." A USA Today headline used the term "a chilling echo of terrorism."
      Citing the copy of Joseph Stack's suicide note posted online, the liberal Daily Kos website observed that, "Obviously Stack was not a mentally healthy person, and he was embittered at capitalism, including crony capitalism, and health insurance companies and the government." They also stated that Stack could not be connected with the popular Tea Party movement, but argued that the incident "should inject a bit of caution into the anti-government flame-throwers on the right." The website Ace of Spades HQ disputed any connection to the movement and additionally stated Stack was not "right wing", citing Stack's criticism of politicians for not doing anything about health care reform.
      Five days after her husband Vernon Hunter's death, Valerie Hunter filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Sheryl Mann Stack, Andrew Joseph Stack's widow in District Court. The lawsuit alleges that Sheryl had a duty to "avoid a foreseeable risk of injury to others," including her late husband and failed to do so by not warning others about her late husband. The lawsuit also mentions that Stack was required by law to fly his plane at an altitude 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle. At a March 8, 2010 benefit event, Stack's widow Sheryl publicly offered condolences for the victims of the attack. Iowa congressman Steve King (R-Iowa) has made several statements regarding Stack including "I think if we'd abolished the IRS back when I first advocated it, he wouldn't have a target for his airplane. And I'm still for abolishing the IRS, I've been for it for thirty years and I'm for a national sales tax (in its place)."
      Noted libertarian socialist American intellectual Noam Chomsky cited Joe Stack's suicide letter as indicative of some of the public sentiment in the U.S., stated that several of Stack's assertions are accurate or based on real grievances, and urged people to "help" the Joseph Stacks of the world get involved in constructive popular movements instead of letting the Joseph Stacks "destroy themselves, and maybe the world," in order to prevent a process similar to how legitimate and valid popular grievances of the German people in the 1920s and 1930s were manipulated by the Nazis towards violence and away from constructive ends.
      The Internal Revenue Service formally designates certain individuals as potentially dangerous taxpayers (PDTs). In response to an inquiry after the attack, an IRS spokesperson declined to state whether Stack had been designated as a PDT.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 09:36 AM

Bobert has been asked several times to name these Dixiecrats that somehow explain how the bloodthirsty slave killing racist Democrats were actually the kindly saviors of the slaves.

He cannot name them.

Right now would be a good time for him to exhibit his superior knowledge of racial matters and name these Dixiecrats.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 09:10 AM

LOL, GfinS...

Yer just mad because I have zeroed in on your party affliction, ahhhhh, affiliation: conservative republican and you don't like it... You like it less that I am a free thinker and have only voted for 2 democrats in my life for president: Jimmy Carter and Obama... That bugs you 'cause as much as you try you can't pin "democrat" on me...

The problem here really isn't about democrats... It's about people from the Tea Party whose ideologies are not only extremely radical but also not based on any proven & acceptable economic theory... We don't need people who don't understand how things work messing with things 'cause once they mess stuff up it will be very difficult to put Humpty Dumpty back together again...

Ever since the New Deal there has been this fringe right FDR haters... They evolved from the robber barons of the late 1800s and early 1900s... They were the ones who hired the "goons" who beat up my grand daddy when he and others tried to get a stone masons union organized back in the 20s... They are the ones now that are finacing the Tea Party... The Koch brothers have funneled hundreds of millions into hiring "community organizers" to go out and rile up the dumbest of the dumb... Dick Armey and FreedomWorks, who represent the health insurance companies have joined with the Koch brothers in throwing hundreds of more million$ into the effort...

If I had the money they have spent on organizing the mental midgets I would have a "progressive" movement so large that we wouldn't be having these discussions about policies that the Koch brothers want put in place that, frankly, are shallow-end-of-the-gene-pool ideas that harm the country rather than help it...

You may think that cutting taxes and allowing the upper 5% to continues oppression of the working class is going to help America... It won't, GfinS... It is what is tearing Amnerica up... How are people supposed to go out and spend if their incomes have flat-lined for the last 30 years??? That's what this is about... Ain't no dough left to spend on Boss Hog's junk...

That ain't radical thinking on my part... It's logical thinking based on facts on the ground and not what the DNC or anyone else wants me to think/observe...

Homie don't give a flying fig about the democrats other than most of them are trying to stop the irresponsible, anti-human, anti-Earth, anti-American policies that yer guys are pushing...

You certainly have earned the "insanity" portion of Gf"in"S...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 02:54 AM

Wow! was that a 'magic' show!!!..You made the topic disappear , and replaced it with blithering blather, designed to cause blindness and hateful divisions!
Bobert sounds like he's had 53 cups of espresso, and with one foot nailed to the floor, is excitedly running around in circles, barking DNC promo mantras.

Don is blaming FOX for a CBS link and YouTube link(two separate ones, not related to FOX) and frothing about hollow earth conspiracies!..My advice is to "Take two, make it 6, of these and get PLENTY of rest!"

This one is for Bobert and Don....About as heavy as you've been relating


For others who clock what is going on.......Promo clip is the original

Lovingly,

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jun 11 - 02:52 AM

Wow! was that a 'magic' show!!!..You made the topic disappear , and replaced it with blithering blather, designed to cause blindness and hateful divisions!
Bobert sounds like he's had 53 cups of espresso, and with one foot nailed to the floor, is excitedly running around in circles, barking DNC promo mantras.

Don is blaming FOX for a CBS link and YouTube link(two separate ones, not related to FOX) and frothing about hollow earth conspiracies!..My advice is to "Take two, make it 6, of these and get PLENTY of rest!"

This one is for Bobert and Don....About as heavy as you've been relating


For others who clock what is going on.......Promo clip is the original

Lovingly,

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Jun 11 - 08:54 AM

The Tea Party is very much the heart and soul of the Republican Party and the Tea Party is made up of the same old Dixiecrats and KKKers...

Now that is bigotry in the purest of sense...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Jun 11 - 01:26 AM

"Repubs want America to ***fail***"[telling folks that a scarey terrible condition is going to land on them]

"Me thinks that the Taiban are alive and well in the USA..."

"Me thinks that you are projecting here..."

"But, Boberdz... It's all Obama's fault fir, you know, being a socialist..."

This illustrates how Bobert, the master projectionist of the Mudcat, can't control his OCD.

He makes up a hateful statement and projects that hate on his perceived enemies. His enemies being anybody that dares to disagree with him. To question his self righteousness.

In this manner he believes he is correcting something and making the world better when in fact he is creating more hate and social injustice.

By the way a person that has no tolerance for anyone else's views and has to dominate is known as a bigot.

A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different political views or ethnicity or race or class or religion or sexuality or gender.

A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group [Tea Party] with hatred and intolerance.

A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.

A person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion.

One who holds irrespective of reason, and attaches disproportionate weight to some creed or view.

In other words, a bigot is someone who's intolerant and prejudice, whether it be to another person's quality or to their way of thinking.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 08:41 PM

This is all so funny...

Today was one of them three tee-shirts days from the humidity here in NC and I just didn't want to put on anything dark because of the sun so the last one I grabbed and am still wearing is my "Nader/2000" teeshirt... On the back it reads, "Bush and Gore make me want to RALPH"...

But, yeah, I guess that the Green Party is still a party so I guess that makes me, ahhhh...

...guilty by GfinS's definition...

BTW, I am not a Democrat, GfinS... I am just "ABR" (anyone but republicans) these days because in spite of your wrong-headed "very Republican" mantra that both parties are exactly the same, they aren't... At least, now they aren't... They parted ways purdy good after the 2000 election... Yes, some of the Blue Dogs Democrats are the same as Repubs but take the Blue Dogs out of the equation and the other Dems stand quite apart form the Repubs (at least this batch of Repubs) who are intent on dismantling (starve the beast) the federal government... That is the battle line right now... Stop the radicals before they cause so much damage that we can't repair it!!!

Period...

If this was an emergency room, what the Repubs are trying to do is equivalent to having a gun shot victim come thru the door and a guy waiting with a tooth ache... I'm going to treat the gun shot first... Same as we have going on here... One party is trying to make the country fail...

Every billion that the Repubs can strip out of the federal budget equals 100,000 jobs... This ain't made up stuff.. This is reality... The Repubs want as much unemployment as they can get and are using phony baloney BS about deficits to get as much unemployment as they can before the next election...

They say the election is all about jobs... Yeah, what they don't tell you is that they want as many people out of work as possible???

Repubs want America to ***fail***...

You might not want to see it that way but they have already said their #1 goal is to get Obama out of their White House... They are pushing every button to screw up the recovery...

Cutting taxes even more is total 100% bullshit!!!

It has failed miserably...

If you have some insights on how putting another million leeches on the US government is going to fix any thing then please share it with *US*...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stringsinger
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 03:41 PM

Anyone who brings a loaded weapon to a political rally to make a point is a terrorist.

People do not understand the Second Amendment.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 03:22 PM

Following on Sawzaw's post just above, I have already gone on record as NOT belonging to ANY political party. Nor do I embrace the platform of any particular party. My political positions and beliefs are based on carefully thought out philosophical and ethical positions. So whenever someone tries to slap some kind of predigested political label on me, they don't know what they're talking about.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 02:48 PM

"I maintain, that BOTH of them are NOT representing us, or even 'looking out' for the well-being, of our country"

And each side uses the divide and conquer method to try to stay in power. They do things to pit libs against conservatives, rich against poor, racial animosity. Then they spend money we don't have and make laws just to get people to vote for them regardless of the long range consequences.

You have to consider anything that a person does on it's own merits, not if that person belongs to your group or not. Obama does some good things. You have to support the good things and don't support the things you think are not good.

People support crap they do not believe in just because they have to support their party. Like gang warfare.

It is this blind adherence to one party or the other that is screwing up the country.

If you can just rise above all the partisan bullshit it is a relief.

How can people not see this? It is a game. Just like the talk show hosts that try to keep their viewers by making outrageous statements about the "other side". They are making millions and playing the viewers and listeners for suckers.

Either people can't figure out what is right and what is wrong, truth from bullshit or they are too lazy so they just echo what they heard from the "leaders" on their side. They have to have some zealot interpret everything for them. Incapable of forming an independent conclusion.

What people need to do is to find things they agree on rather constantly demonizing each other about the things they disagree on. That is civilization as opposed to tribes at war with each other.

From a reasonable Mudcatter:

Sawzaw makes it quite clear that he is a Democrat [not but thanks for not claiming I am a Repub], but that he opposes this particular piece of legislation. It is you who are muddying the matter by your eager search to prove that Sawzaw is some sort of apostate (a traitor to his own party?) because he prefers the opposing party's position on one piece of legislation.

He's simply showing that he's an independent thinker who doesn't always support EVERYTHING his own party does. I think we could use a few more of those, don't you?

I'm not posting any of the above because I support the Republicans in any way. I don't. I'm posting it because you are conveniently misinterpreting Sawzaw's post to satisfy your own emotional need to attack him and prove he's some kind of hypocrite, but you have not understood what he said in that post at all.

There is no conflict between being a Democratic Party member, and   not supporting EVERY single thing a Democratic administration decides to do. If there were, it would mean Democrats aren't human beings at all...just blindly obedient robots who vote party line regardless of what the issue is.

(Sort of like the Republicans?) ;-) Actually, most members of Congress do act like blindly obedient robots most of the time...and that is one of the things that is so sick and so wrong about the party system itself. It enforces conformity...what Sawzaw has been calling "tribalism", and stifles independent thought. As such, it is inimical to the very concept of freedom and good government.

And that's why I don't like political parties. And that's why I've never belonged to one and I never will.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 02:46 PM

Bilderberg.

Oh, yeah! Conspiring to form a One World Government.

But—one should not forget all the other conspiracies. There are the International Bankers, the Illuminati, the Jesuits, The Armenian International Conspiracy, the Knights Templars, the Vatican, the Masons, the Southern Baptist Leadership Conference, the Brotherhood of the Protocols of Zion, the Great White Brotherhood, the Eurabia Conspiracy, and many others.

Aiding and abetting these conspiracies are the secret agencies who operate such devices as HAARP, which controls our weather and caused the Japanese earthquake. And the agency responsible for Chemtrails, which spreads chemicals on the world's population to keep them dull-witted. But the most insidious of these agencies is the Girl Scouts of America, who sell obedience-inducing drugs disguised as chocolate chips in their cookies.

All THESE conspiracies, however, are merely to cover up what is REALLY going on.

The source of all of these world conspiracies?

Reptilians from the Hollow Earth. They originated when a group of smaller dinosaurs took refuge in large caves when the "dinosaur killer" meteorite struck the earth 65,000,000 years ago. They discovered passageways to the great hollow interior of the earth, where they have since lived and evolved into intelligent, technological beings, and are implementing their master plan to take the earth back from humans.

Now, HERE is the deep, dark secret! Have you noticed that Barack Obama has a kind of sibilance in his speech? The way he pronounces his "S's?" That's a dead giveaway! He was not born in Kenya, nor was he born in Indonesia. He was not even born in Hawaii!

He was born in the Hollow Earth! He is a Reptilian!! And he is the main agent for the Reptilian Master Conspiracy, and his purpose is to gain power and do whatever is necessary to pave the way for the dinosaurs to storm out of their refuge deep in the planet's interior and retake the earth from humans!!

Now, you know the HORRIBLE TRUTH!!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 01:44 PM

Stick to dancing away from the lawnmower!

The last post, was NOT the 'Mudcat Vaudeville Magic Show'..BUT I thought it was interesting that they want to arrest Henry Kissinger in Switzerland for war crimes. Also that Rick Perry is the guy they want to push on the Republicans, and Hilary was in attendance, along with a 'few more financial luminaries' from BOTH parties who are going to decide about the war in the mid-east. It goes to show, that our policies have NOTHING to do with party politics, but rather how we are being manipulated, into thinking, (well for SOME of us), that your 'political hate speech' has NOTHING to do with what is going on!!
BtW, I got those links from 'The Drudge Report'.
I hope they arrest him, and blow this whole thing WIDE open, so maybe some of our skeptical naysayers come to an 'epiphany'..and stop being such blocked 'goose-eggs'!!!...maybe even remember that we are ALL Americans, and on the same side...and that the 'divisions' are delusional products of CORPORATE OWNED media propaganda, financed by the multinational, conglomerate, globalists...another 'BTW'...see the headline, that China says that we are defaulting on our loans from them??
Time to CUT BACK the spending and borrowing, boys and girls!! Time to return our manufacturing base back to home, and use OUR resources!!

.....but then if one utters those things, the left will accuse someone of it being a 'rightie' plot!..Good grief!.....Then you wonder why I think there are some morons out there who can't see or reason past their TV cartoon news!!!..or mass propaganda for children.

Wavin' to ya'!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 09:30 AM

Good grief!!!

Arthur Murray invades the CatBox...

Jus' funnin'....

When I get fully rested up I'll come 'round and maybe show ya'll a few of my fancy dance steps... lol...

B~


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