ethnic origins of Mudcatters

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 03:22 PM

Mom's family mainly Highland Scots of the MacIntosh Clan who emigrated to Virginia during the Clearances. GGGGGrampaw served in the Revolutionary War and was paid in land, in this case on the frontier in Kentucky, in an area with other Scotch-Irish settlers. My Mom's Grandfather came home from the Civil War and upset the family by marrying a Native American. She got her revenge, because most of my Mom's family now looks very Indian. Dad's grandfather was Swedish, married an Irish girl.

Guess that makes me a pretty typical American.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Jim Krause
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 03:44 PM

Very well, Mariner, I'll bite. My ancestors came to the US of A between the years of 1874-80. All of 'em practically in one bunch. There is a Polish name among the Dutch, and North German names and that name is Sawatsky. All these folks were bi-lingual when they entered the US, but English was not the second language; German was. Their primary language was Low-Saxon, also referred to as Low-German. And there are still places in Canada and Mexico where Low-Saxon is still spoken by folks who might be distantly related to me.
Jim

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Jim Krause
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 04:08 PM

Oh yeah, and why I should be interested in old-time music, God only knows. It sure doesn't come from my Low Saxon ancestors.
Jim

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Carol's Friend Don
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 04:44 PM

The family name Moore came from a small village near Newtonards, Co. Down, called Morvilla where most of the earliest Moores are buried. You can see Scotland from that point and there's some indication we were driven out during religious persecutions. Our first identifiable ancestor, John Moore helped build the third oldest Masonic Hall in Ireland , and the first the Presbyterian church in Newtonards in the early 1800's and then left for Nova Scotia where he again helped build the first Presbyterian in that region. He carried with him a Masonic document called a "De Mittimus" which introduces him to other Masons and gives his accomplishments. When My brother , my Dad and I when to Ireland last year, we were able to match the handwriting on the De Mit with the actual minutes of the Masonic Lodge for that time. We frankly didn't know we were Northern Irish until that trip. My father's mother was Swiss-English (Spalede-Fossey) and my Moms mother was Cornish (Benbow)and her father was Scottish (Glasson). So one eighth of me is not British Isles. A member of my family has served in every war America has been involved in, with both my Dad and I serving in Viet Nam (He in 1954, with the French, and I in 1969). I suspect that nationality is a function of where your blood was spilled, and not where it sprang from...

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Irish Rover
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 05:01 PM

I was born in the NI of a Scots father(Cameron) and Irish Mother, the rest is in the song. I was raised with both traditions and religons. I have some very american trates having served 24 years in the US Military......only job I could get with my background

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Rollo
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 05:35 PM

Well, I am German and all my ancestors are too, as far I know. But what does it say? I mean... Some of them come from the hannover area. Some of them come from Pommern which is now Poland. Some of them come from Saxony. The conclusion is I probably have saxon, danish, swedish, french (hugenotue), polish, baltic, czech, russian and maybe even mongolic ancestors, (but NO bavarian. That is important for a good northern german! *G*) But I first of all I am proud burgher of the city of hamburg, which has allways opened its gates to all who wanted to build its wealth by making their living there! (one reason is as good as the other to sniff at your neigbor, hur hur!

- Okay, stop joking. the essence about my ethnic origins is that I am definitely european. But if someone calls me "human" someday I know I did something right.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 05:58 PM

50 percent Romanian
50 percent born from a pack of bandits
100 percent Canadian Jewish Princess

Little Neo

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: BanjoRay
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 06:32 PM

About 85% Welsh and maybe 15% German (my father's mother's name was Lodwick, apparantly changed from Ludwig in the 19th Century. I grew up in a South Wales mining town with a world class male voice choir, brass band, etc. My grandmother used to sing in Eisteddfodau, and my mother has a superb ear for a tune - but my father's family couln't hold a tune in a bucket - maybe that's why I play Appalachian Old Time on the banjo!

Cheers
Ray

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 07:05 PM

There a song by a 16th century Welshman, Lodowick Lloyd, on my website.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 07:30 PM

Mrs Duck, I would say you're quintessentially British... hardly a mongrel at all!

My father was born in Birmingham, England of an Irish mother and an English father. Were he living, it would be his 100th birthday next Monday. His father died in 1904 and the real father figure in his life was his maternal grandfather, a man from Ennis, Co. Clare who, God bless him, sang.

My mother was born in the wilds of Co. Kerry. She used to sneak out the window and cycle to dances miles and miles away. At 86, she'd still love to.

If I understand correctly, the rest of the story will be in April's Irish Music magazine.

All the best,
Dan Milner

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 07:44 PM

Hesperis - Gus Fyfield does not like Celtic music.

My genetic origins: 1/2 Scottish/English Canadian, 1/2 Czech with a wee smidgin of Oriental blood from when the Huns came rampaging through one time.

My spiritual origins: many, many, many...but I don't want to drive Wolfgang nuts by listing them here.

p.s. I like Celtic music fine, specially when performed by hamsters or their handlers.

- LH

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: hesperis
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 08:29 PM

Hawk - Gus who? (Probably no-one of any importance. Nobody I know, anyway. :nose in the air:)

Carol's Friend Don - Well, I spill my blood on Canadian toilets regularly, does that count? *g*

Pseudolus - Well, I would join. If only to find out more about the trad music and dance...

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 06 Mar 01 - 09:11 PM

Maternal Grandmother was born in Belgium, her mother was born in Greece, married to a Belgique. My mother was born in Vancouver. Maternal Grandfather was born in Canada to English born parents Paternal Grandparents were Scottish born (Scowry) as was my father. I don't know what that makes me ... mixed up I guess! LL

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 04:49 AM

So... Dancing Mom... does this make you part Piano? I'm confused....

Carols friend Don, Moore is also a family name of mine too... Though we don't know much about that side of the family... Who knows... apart from they came from Donegal/Cavan somewhere.

E

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 05:11 AM

Wow, LH, you're part Hun, too? Attila is my ancestor. >:)

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Deni
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 06:02 AM

Father's family from Co.Cork, Ireland, Mother's family from Wales and Cornwall.

I would love to see Ireland the most and play in a real session there, but I haven't been yet!

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Kim C
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 10:10 AM

German, French, Dutch, English. My gggg-grandmother was a Connoly but I haven't been able to find out anything about her parents. Obviously her daddy was a Celt of some kind. There's also a family rumour that one of my gggrandmothers on my Daddy's side was 1/2 Cherokee - and in truth, she had a very interesting name - but it is rumour and not specifically documented.

The German and Dutch thing, well, that explains why I like beer so much. And tulips. I have always loved tulips. Didn't find out until last summer that I had all these Dutchmen behind me. And one of them, Jacob Van Meter, was a F&I & Rev War vet, and one of the first people to settle Hardin Co., KY. There is a DAR chapter there named after him.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Dahlin
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 10:22 AM

French. By way of Quebec on one side of the family and l'Acadie on the other. On est certainement Franco.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Snori
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 10:42 AM

My body is in 100% Polish My soul is 50% irish :)

Although one Irish drop flows in my blood. One of my ancestors a was Irish. He came to Poland in 19th century. I have his testimony from 1864 written with his own hand!

Slainte! Pawel Dziemski First Polish Bagpipng Page: http://www.dudziarz.px.pl/polskie.html

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Metchosin
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 01:28 PM

I'm glad Little Hawk and Lepus Rex brought up the Huns as I always considered them my ancestors and hence the reason for my squinty eyes.

I started to do some searching and found the following:

The Huns occupied the region of today's Hungary around the year 430 and after the death of Attila they were defeated by the Avars. In turn the Avars were chased out of the area by 790. The Hungarians (Magyars), seven tribes made up of some eighty-odd clans of nomadic and pastoral people, numbering perhaps 100 to 200 thousand in all, had by AD 900 occupied all of the sparsely populated Carpathian Basin, where they had arrived in 895. As you can see the Magyars came to present day Hungary around 895. That is 500 years after the Huns.

And the following regarding the Magyars:

Some scholars say that the Magyars came from beyond the Caucasus mountains and are of Turkish origin, others claim they came from Siberia and are Finno-ugric. Most likely they were a mixed nation. The Magyars had been migrating from their original home to the north of the Black Sea. Forced out of Russia by other tribes the Magyar horsemen turned to raiding that was as rapid, widespread and savage as that of the northern Vikings. Towards the end of the ninth century the chieftan Arpad united seven Magyar military units and took possession of the area around the Danube. He became the founder of Hungary's first Magyar dynasty which ruled Hungary from 902 until1301.

There is some dispute now that the Magyars linguistic roots are that of the Finno-ugric language and are now thought to be more closely related to that of the Khanty and Manshi people on the eastern side of the Ural Mountain in western Siberia.

Now this might not only explain my squinty eyes but why I like Arpad's Guz by Mandolirium so much and my affinity with horses..and a few other things.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 11:39 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Ethnic combiantions
From: CarolC
Date: 22-Aug-00 - 05:28 AM

Third generation American on my mother's side and second generation on my father's.

Mother; 1/2 Irish, 1/4 German, 1/4 French

Father; English, Scottish, and Scots/Irish, all by way of Canada (my grandfather), and Bermuda (my grandmother).

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: wdyat12
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 11:52 PM

Ella,

Checkout this site if you haven't already. Disregard the politics and seek out your Huguenot roots.

www.eaglering.com

wdyat12

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: hesperis
Date: 07 Mar 01 - 11:58 PM

Metchosin - Mandolirium rules! Though I don't think I have any Hun blood in me... Of course, you never know what came in the back door!

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: JennieG
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 04:43 AM

Like many other Aussies I'm a mixture of English-Irish-Scottish......Scottish GG grandies came out here in the mid-1840's; Irish came here for the gold rush in the early 1850's; English went to New Zealand in the 1840's and married up with the aforementioned Irish who had by them made their way to NZ for their gold rush too. Eventually they all came here to Oz and many years later I happened! So I have them all to thank for the auburn hair and freckles.
Cheers
JennieG

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 05:15 AM

Thanks for the link to the site wdyat, but can you tell me a little bit more about which part of the site I am meant to be looking at. A little hungover today from the bottle of red wine... need to be spoonfed information today.. .

Speak quietly of for ever hold your peace.

Ella

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Grab
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 08:20 AM

All English. But my grandmother was a Crawford (a cousin traced that side of the family back to some old Scottish crofter) and their family lived out in Hong Kong, moving back when my gran was a girl.

So why do I like playing blues so much?

Grab.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Pseudolus
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 09:50 AM

All right Snori!!!! The Polish delagation to the mudcat now has FOUR members! Gotta love that....

Frank

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: GUEST,skarpi from work.
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 10:34 AM

Hello all, my grandfather is born In Arizona, and his father was from Ireland. So I am kind of a Mix up man... hahaha. Just let you all know that I am alive and well, I am watching mudcat from a distand at the moment. All the best to you all. skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Metchosin
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 10:59 AM

Hesperis you never can tell, up until yesterday I thought I only had a three nationality mix and then I found out I have a Danish greatgrandfather....ye gads.....Vikings and Magyars.....watch out if I'm in a bad mood......

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: LR Mole
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 11:33 AM

Always assumed Irish, but neither my mom's name (my middle) nor my dad's goes that far back. The former means Belgian and the latter means some sort of French, I guess. Equal parts earth, sea, and words is my line.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: wdyat12
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 01:21 PM

Ella,

Eaglering did not bring up key links to Huguenot records for me today either. However, If you try a search for Huguenot you will get many sites: Cyndi'sList-Huguenot, Huguenot Society of South Carolina, and Olivetree Genealogy, and many others. You can get to Olivetree Genealogy direct with this address: http://olivetreegenealogy.com/index.shtml

Good luck hunting. I hope you feel a little better by now. I was up all night listening to Song Dog on Paltalk. I'm a little groggy myself today.

wdyat12

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 02:24 PM

All right, at least three watered-down Huns on Mudcat... Every horde has to start somewhere. >:)

Just wanted to mention, Metchosin, some nerdy facts about the Magyar's linguistic affiliation: Hungarian IS still one of the Finno-Ugric languages (which, along with the Samoyedic languages, make up the Uralic language family), and so are Khanti and Mansi (the two Ob-Ugric languages). These three make up the Ugric half of Finno-Ugric. And I'd kill for some Ob-Ugric folk music cds... (Well, not KILL... God, I'd make a shitty Hun.)

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: guest(intruder-inactive)
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 08:14 PM

lithuanian, 100%, all the way back

and did you know, one of the greatest kings of poland happened to be lithuanian?

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 08:21 PM

Got a Polish friend went to the optometrist and the Doc asked him to look at the eye chart. My friend did and said, "Hey! I know all those guys!"

Spaw (ducking and running before Frank catches up)

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Haruo
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 08:48 PM

Half English (largely Listers from up near the Border), an eighth Gael (Clann Rós), a quarter norsk (Jacobsens from around Trondheim), and an eighth unaccounted for. But the Scottish eighth is where my name and most of my ethnic identity, such as it is, comes from. Though of course I identify more with both Esperanto culture and Seattle regionalism than with any European ethnicity. And since my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-uncle, Daniel Boone, was adopted by the Shawnee, I claim 1/256th collateral adopted Native American ancestry, and work sporadically on learning our local language, Lushootseed [properly dx^wlèšucid, but with a schwa where I typed è] (on the theory that if you're going to make a place your home you ought to learn the local language).

I'm not sure whether my ancestry influences my musical interests or tastes much or not.

Liland

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 09:30 PM

100% Czech, born and lived there first 10 years of my life. My father has recently traced our patrilineal ancestry to 1565 following the family "Grunt" or homestead which oddly enough is no longer in the family but the people that live there are called by our last name, even though its not their real name. Fitting indeed because when my earliest ancestor bought the homestead around 1600 and (made his living as a publican) took on the name of the previous owners of the house. Funny tracing your ancestry back 400 years only to find out your name is not really your name. One of the family ancestors was also an executioner but we wont go there right now.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: En
Date: 08 Mar 01 - 11:36 PM

I shook my family tree and out fell emmigrants of Czech, Croatia, Austia/Germany, England, Ireland, and Scotland. I was fortunate enough as a child to have heard my great-grandfather's stories about leaving Yugoslavia by himself at the age of 15 and sailing to California in about 1880 to make a life for himself in San Francisco.

My German/Irish aunt was ostracized by her family because she ran away from Kansas to become an opera singer in Philadelphia (when they had an opera company). My Czech dad plays trumpet in a swing band here in California.

We siblings are trying to round out the gene pool by marrying people of varying heritages: Turkish, Cherokee, French, Ukranian, Chinese, Norwegian; we do not yet have delegates from all continents, but we have many offspring here in the diverse San Francisco area, so there is potential.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: roopoo
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 02:22 AM

As far as I know I'm English on my mum's side, but her maiden name was Thompson, which is Campbell of Argyll, so maybe way back...Unfortunately I know nothing about my great-grandfather of that name except that he was an engine driver, drank, and played the concertina. His daughter-in-law whom he came to live with (my gran) wouldn't let him play it when she was around as she thought it was "common". My mum says playing it was the only time she had ever seen him at peace.

My dad was born on the Ormeau Road in Belfast in 1912 and left at 3 weeks old, He was raised in Scotland (Edinburgh area), where there may have been some ancestral family connection, although his mum hailed from Newtownards in Ireland, and his dad, we believe, from Limerick. His surname was French (Norton-Chappelle) and was said to have arisen from shipwrecked sailors marrying into the local community (there was a wreck in the late 18th century on the SW coast) although my dad always said that it went back to the time of the Armada.

I just call myself half-Irish these days. I was told of other bits and bats: some not an ancestral issue, but my Irish granny's uncles seemed all to head for Oz and NZ, and one of her sisters went to live in Canada at the start of the 20th century. I only have my dad's word that his father was from Limerick, although I know he was previously married, and had some daughters. I can't dig any deeper because my dad's been gone for 15 years. One day, maybe.

Andrea

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: JulieF
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 07:04 AM

I'm Scottish - parents scottish and given that my grandparents were gardeners and foresters - I think we were probable rooted to the land, for a long long time.

It was interesting to hear some mention of Hugenots. Some of Tim's family were chucked out of France for being of this persuassion and ended up in Ireland. Consequently, he is Irish (allowing for the fact that both he and his father were born in England) with a French surname. Almost all the people with his surname in England are related to him.

Cat considers herself a Scot of Irish descent.

Julie

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Carol's Friend Don
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 06:25 PM

hesperis: If you're spilling that much blood in Canadian toilets, you need too learn to sit down... the ring goes down first, and you put your back to the wall... if you can see the handle when you sit, print this out and take it with you the next time...

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: MARINER
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 08:02 PM

Oops, I started this thread and forgot to mention my own origins. So here goes.On the paternal side I'm Irish (O'Leary)and on my mothers side they all originally came from Scotland (Ross) to Ireland in the 18th Century.They were a family of Protestant ministers. The Scots side of the family produced many fine Irish traditional musicians, malodeon players, singers and pipers.One of the last generation made records in the days of the 78.One of this generation is a well known recording artist, in the pop and trad field here in Ireland.Me?, I can carry a tune, sea shantys mainly.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: hesperis
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 09:17 PM

LOL @ Carol's Friend Don - Since I am female, I naturally spill blood once a month. (I actually prefer to spill it IN the toilet rather than elsewhere...)

Lepus Rex - I wouldn't make a good Hun either. It's bad enough spilling my own blood, I don't want to spill anybody else's. Good thing I'm not a nurse or a doctor, too!

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 06:23 AM

I'm 100% Hullish.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: muppett
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 07:11 AM

I was born in London but have lived in Yorkshire since I was 3, my Dad was Born in Dominica in the West Indies and His descendants came from Africa, My Mum was born in Hertfordshire,England, her Dad was born within the sounds of Bow Bells (in London), making him a genuine Cockney, his Mum & Dad were born in county Cork, Ireland. My Mum's Mum was Born in Canada, but her family came form Hertfordshire England, and can trace their family back to the Norman conquest (the Gaunts, related to john of Gaunt).
So when I fill equal opps monitoring forms I class my self as an Anglo Afro Carribean, Irish French Candaian Southerner who is a naturalied Yorkshire man.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: el ted
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 08:28 AM

Dad ; born in Beverley
mum : born in Beverley
me : born in Withernsea, live in Hull.What went wrong?

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: freda underhill
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 08:38 AM

Race: Hobbits
Date of Birth: September 22, 2894
Date of Death: Sometime after September 29, 3027
Residence: Bag End in Hobbiton; later Rivendell
Parents: Barry Baggins and Tourniquetta Took
currently residing in Mudcat.


Freda Baggins also known as Underhill

(cousin, Bilbo Baggins)

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 09:03 AM

"His descendants came from Africa.. Ancestors, ascendants, or forebears, surely.

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Bearheart
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 11:58 AM

50% Hungarian: Mom born Manhattan 1929 but raised in Pittsburgh PA, her mom raised in Portage (coal miners) and her dad in Pittsburgh, her grandparents all born in Hungary in the late 1800's.Family names,GG parents: Danyi, Uveges, Molnar, Kovacs. All farmers as far as I know. My grandmother's family were all musical, her dad played several instruments (I've been told he could play anything he could lay hand to.)Grandma had a good singing voice and loved to sing. My grandfather played violin and a few other instruments. As a young man he played in a "gypsy" band. they were quite poor when my mother was growing up-- she took violin in school using grampa's violin till some bastard broke into the school and stole all the kids' instruments. It was the Depression; Grampa never owned another violin, though they became prosperous later in life.

50% Danish: Dad born and raised in Warren PA 1930, his dad born in the States (probably Warren? I never asked)-Grampa's parents born in southern Denmark. Family names: Coppel/Fredricksen(my greatgrandmother married twice), Kuhre. His mom's family came from Odense, they were Jensens and Rasmussens. Everyone sang in that family. My dad learned violin in school and taught himself to play OldTime fiddle when we moved to Southern Ohio.

Music was a constant in my childhood. We sang together much of the time.The other family pastimes were camping/nature, and fighting. (They were nominal Christians-- but the Viking and the Hun were still there underneath it all.) As an adolescent I taught myself guitar after a fashion. Dad had a love for the old Child Ballads, my sister and I picked that up. Collecting songs is still an obsession. Perhaps more importantly I grew up with the musics of my ethnicity. Particularly my maternal grandparents made sure their children and grandchildren celebrated their heritage, and many family celebrations featured Hungarian music and dance. I am grateful for that. My dad made sure that we heard the music of Denmark. He like my mother grew up with the culture-- his community featured not only a Danish population, but other Scanadinavians, Italians and Seneca Iroquois. We learned early to appreciate our heritage and that of others. It is possibly for this reason I fell in love with Celtic culture.

Curiously I was looking into links between Celtic and Scandinavian culture (none of us are really pure, you know! our ancestors in the main were great travelers, even the more settled folk). The BBC apparently did a program called the Blood of the Vikings -- DNA samples indicate that some portions of Britain are very high in Scandinavian genetic material... not all of the mixes we see are due to conquering hordes, though I guess much of them are. Sometimes there was actually peaceful coexistence.

Bekki

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 12:04 PM

Dad was born in London and grew up in Hong Kong. My Mum was born in Hull and grew up in various Yorkshire towns/villages. I was born in Fulford (a designer Outlet stands on the site now so I was definately born to shop!) I grew up in a village just outside Selby and I now live in London!

Subject: RE: ethnic origins of Mudcatters
From: el ted
Date: 04 Jun 04 - 12:04 PM

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