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Subject: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 05:01 PM

Every now and again I come across some remark in a Mudcat thread that is really a prime candidate for a Gallery of Mudcat Quotations. I don't mean the quotes we dig out from what other people have said in order to make a point - though that would be an interesting colection too. I mean when some Mudcat member comes up with something worth remembering and quoting.

But we don't have such a collection at this point that I know of. Perhaps there have been previous threads like this, but I've never seen one. So I think we should have one.

Anyway, here is one to start with, taken from this thread talking about gossip concerning politicians' private lives. It's by by Rapaire:

"Course, if I wanted to find out about my own life I'd run for political office."

Any more, current or not so current?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Allan C.
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 05:28 PM

"I sometimes feel like a total alien on planet earth. The CLOSEST I get to feeling like 'I belong' is around folkies." Rick Fielding in this thread.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Allan C.
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:31 PM

"'There's a place in my heart that only stops hurting when I sing. So I sing...' ...actually sailing right down the center of a song is as close to heaven as I'm likely to get in this lifetime..." WyoWoman in this thread.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:51 PM

Good ones. I'd missed them too.

Thanks Allan. I'm looking forward to seeing what other unconsidered diamonds people come up with.

Here's another:

"If you're honest with the song it will do its magic.""

That is from Harvey Andrews in this thread.

I think the ground rules for this should be that people bring quotations made by other Mudcatters, and that they always stick in a clicky to the original thread - that way they point us back to good threads in the process, and maybe help us raise our game.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: kendall
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 07:54 PM

"Humor is the opiate of the melancholy" (me)


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Allan C.
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 08:56 PM

"Our memories shouldn't be battles fought in southeast Asia or battles fought in the streets in cities across America. They should have been of rock concerts, softball games, picnics and the local drag strips." Bobert


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 09:11 PM

Why, thank you, McGrath. I'm humbled (and damned proud of my humilty, too!).


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Allan C.
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 09:49 PM

"We are good people, and as such we send out positive ripples of energy which can have a profound effect on those whose lives we touch, and, in turn, the world around us. So, here's to the Power of Music and the Mudcateers who spread it!" katlaughing


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: UB Ed
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 11:39 PM

"Ya know, I had a cat with bowel problems and my vet suggested a 1/2 teaspoon of gasoline fer chrissake! I admit that I thought the guy was nuts, but it did work, sorta. It ain't too easy to get a half teaspoon of gasoline down a cat's throat, but when I did, he liked to tore me to shreds getting away. He blasted around the room about 3 or 4 times, ran up the hallway, up the stairs, back down both, and into the den, leaped on the drapes and ran to the end of the curtain rod where he stopped and fell to the floor. I thought I'd killed the poor thing, but it turns out he'd just run out of gas." Catspaw49


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 01:29 AM

Thanks, Allan! I'd forgotten about that thread.




Just a note, some of us write for what passes as a living, well, hopefully:-)...since posting these many years on Mudcat, a lot of my stuff has been copyrighted. I don't mind it being here, obviously (it'd be too bad if I did) but I wouldn't want it used elsewhere without permission. Thanks for understanding.:-)


kat


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Skipper Jack
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 04:57 AM

" We like to think that some of our songs are educational. In fact we heard some people as they left say, "Well, that's taught me a lesson"!

Tony ..Baggyrinkle.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Snuffy
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 08:13 AM

Not in any thread, but at the Shellbacks winter gathering this month, Mrs Duck came out with:

"If God had meant me to be slim, he wouldn't have made me an atheist"


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 03:41 PM

Mrs Duck. God knew what he was doing!

I like the idea of quotes by Mudcatters from the outside world as well. Where quotes come from inside the Mudcat sticking in a link to the thread seems a good idea. Maybe good quotes come from good threads.

Here's a gem I found from that thread with the rick fielding quote that Allan C. gave above. Also by Rick - not so much a quote as a useful tip, and interesting insight: "I've squeezed Crazy Glue into more than one Juke Box in bars where I was playing. It worked. In each place they had to remove the machine to fix it."


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Folkiedave
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 06:32 PM

I worked at a bar in Sheffield, a loud rock disco with live bands, whilst supporting myself through university as a mature student. Matchsticks down the slot of a Space Invaders (well it was 1979) did as well as super glue and no chance of sticking your fingers together!!

BUT .great thread.

Dave
www.collectorsfolk.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 07:15 PM

Here's another I like - by wdyat12 :

"Things can seem better than they actually are."


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Mar 04 - 08:02 PM

And here's another, which set me thinking there ought to be a place to gather Mudcat Quotations.

From GUEST,satchel in BS: slavery, poverty and culture, when someone referred disparagingly to "revisionist history".

I've yet to hear a complaint about "revisionist dentistry."


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 01:25 AM

Now you're doomed to trace back the threads, one day at a time, looking for bon mots.    I know I left a real gem back there somewhere but it woubn't do me any good to find it! :>)

A


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: alanabit
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 01:41 PM

I heard a lovely one today from the veteran busker Mississippi Mike. I hadn't seen him for some time and was explaining why my left arm is currently in a cast. "I should know better than to fool around doing karate at my age," I joked.
"Yeah. You're never too old to do something stupid, I guess," came the reply.
I'll keep that in mind as the aging process advances!


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 04:59 PM

"You're never too old to do something stupid" - wouldn't that just make a great T-shirt?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: JenEllen
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 06:25 PM

Yeah, but it'd make a better tattoo.   *bg*


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: pdq
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 07:28 PM

...from Don Firth, who is a master wordsmith but not much of a biologist:

    "...if it weren't for lions and cheetahs and such, we'd be ass-deep in gazelles"


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: paddymac
Date: 01 Apr 04 - 07:48 PM

Jayzus, McGrath, you've started the solution to all foreseeable financial woes attributable to the 'Cat. Max can surely get out of the hole with this. It's bound to be a few volumes in a "pocket sized" print version, plus CD's and videos. We could probably even get Dylan to do a guest spot in "Victoria's thong." I't will assuredly outsell Sam Clemmons and the Cherokee Cowboy. Brilliant, lad, just brilliant.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Apr 04 - 12:08 AM

It started when one of the party goers opened a bottle of very fine tequila
and persuaded us to do a few shots with him.

It was smooth stuff with a capital smoo.



Examples of potential usage:

"She was a smooth talker, with a capital smoo."

"Was he a smooth dancer?" "Smooth?!? I'll say, and with a capital smoo!"

Gee I hope he made it up himself, smoothie that he is, and I've SEEN his smoo for myself, and it IS capital!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Helen
Date: 04 Apr 04 - 06:21 AM

The latest one I copied and thought about putting on the scrolling-text screensaver. Good one, Kendall!

Subject:
BS: two types of people in the world
From: kendall - PM
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 08:17 AM

there are three kinds:
1 Those who make things happen.
2 Those who let things happen
3 Those who wonder what the hell happened.

It fits right in with my understanding of people and what makes them tick. All to do with locus of control and what I refer to as the "Days of Our Lives" syndrome - people who view life as if it were a soapie on tv and say "Why are they doing that?" & "Why don't they do this?" but never seem to see it as their role to take some responsibility for what happens in the world around them.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: jack halyard
Date: 04 Apr 04 - 06:43 AM

There are three kinds of people in this world, those who can add up and those who can't


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Allan C.
Date: 04 Apr 04 - 09:26 AM

SINSULL in the thread, How do you keep from getting mad? said:

I avoid rabid animals. To avoid getting angry - I don't avoid it. I get angry but wait until the "red flash" passes before responding. If it is friendly fire, I try to respond with humor, if not, with dignity (and an implied "Fuck You)
Mary
Smiling


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 04 - 10:33 AM

Or 10 kinds -- those who understand binary, and those who do not.

A


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 08:08 PM

"We seem to be talking apples and orangutans" - Jerry Rasmussen in this thread: BS: What to do about obnoxious MC members?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don Firth
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 08:56 PM

Gawd, pdq! That reminds me that I forgot something my drinking uncle said to me once:   

"Don't ever say anything you wouldn't want to appear on your tombstone."

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: michaelr
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 09:23 PM

"Patriotism is the mistaken notion that the accident of the geopolitical location of one's birth has higher meaning than membership of the human race or citizenship of Planet Earth."

(modified from my original post on the Patriotism thread.)

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: pdq
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 10:41 PM

on Apr. 26, 2004, Ellenpoly said:

"...we can not stop outselves from using the most offensive kind of epitaphs in place of thoughtful and reasoned remarks..."

Kinda fits with Don Firth's:

"Don't ever say anything you wouldn't want to appear on your tombstone."


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 12:20 AM

What's a pretty joint like yours doing in a dame like this?

Favorite Pickup lines thread 11 Aug 01

if ya love 'em they won't mind if you call them names...

"Another Question" Thread, 10 Aug 01

Karma is not so much what you make it as how you go about being in the universe.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: open mike
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 02:05 AM

the previous posts remindsme i need to review epithet vs. epitaph.

well, my favorite saying is:

Peace will reign when the power of love
is stronger than the love of power.

i have been using this line as the signature for my e-mail:
Just watch your step - I am a black belt in origami!

but i think i will insert the former peace saying...


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Micca
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 06:05 AM

One of my Faves has always been ( from Kendall and others)
Whale Oil Beef Hooked


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Micca
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 06:12 AM

With Reference to Allan C's post of 30 Mar 04 - 05:28 PM above, i wrote a song around this phrase and the feelings she expresses so well in that post for WyoWoman at the time of the original thread and sent it to her, I dont know if she ever found a tune for it, or maybe sang it, I liked it anyway..


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: kendall
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 07:59 AM

Ref. the middle east:
"There can be no peace without justice"


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 09:48 AM

And no justice without peace


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 10:03 AM

This one rather needs rescuing, as since making the quote (some time ago) ? Joe has tried to close the thread in which it was made, once and has just closed it again for a second time (and final time). However, I will always treasure this (along with many other nice things said to me there).

Goodbye, Roger. I hope you come back. You're a good guy.
-Joe Offer-


http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=12450&messages=78&page=1&desc=yes


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 11:08 AM

Just because a thread is closed it doesn't mean it can't be opened.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: greg stephens
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 11:24 AM

Almost anything by Sir JOhn from Hull should be anthologised. I select the most recent thing of his I've read, it captures the inimitable style beautifully. It was the start of a personal message I got this morning, in reply to one of mine posted at abou 7AM.

"Hu Gred
You up earkly"

and continued in the same vein.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 11:47 AM

Due to them being personal - perhaps it is as well that the use of personal messages, without the prior agreement of the poster, (no matter how good the quote) is not encouraged in this thread?

I also have one or two PMs from this source, however, I would not post these publicly, even with permission............*smiles*

Just because a thread is closed it doesn't mean it can't be opened.

Sorry to continue in this pedantic manner but - why then close the thread in the first place?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 03:35 PM

I'm afraid I'm the one who said "In every thread, SOMEONE has to be last" but it was NOT my idea to start those stupid threads.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 03:53 PM

Wordplay, Shambles - possible here because "closed" and "opened" in this context are not opposites or mutually exclusive.

(But wouldn't it be a good idea to keep this one thread specifically for things said on the Mudcat which appear quotable, rather than to carry over arguments from other threads?)


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 04:20 PM

Just read this one today, which is just so much better than anything I am going to hear today on TV, radio or read in the newspapers. Its the kind of stuff that makes you feel disenfranchised, cos only SirjOhn is saying it:-

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Sir jOhn from Hull - PM
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 01:11 AM

Them bloody darkies!, they come over here, get all the best new houses built for them, goverment give them free cars, and they've ALL got moblie phones!
its a bloddy disgrace, rate payers, national service, wasn't like this in my day, national service, that'll teach em, bring back hanging, never like this in my day, leave your door unlocked all day, no respect, clip 'round the ear, Enoch Powell, two bob for a haircut, national service, bloddy darkies.
There, now I've covered all the points you had to raise [josh & Timbo], now kindly fuck off.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 06:15 PM

(But wouldn't it be a good idea to keep this one thread specifically for things said on the Mudcat which appear quotable, rather than to carry over arguments from other threads?)

Yes. That is why I thought long and hard before answering you here. For if you look you will see that it was you that continued this argument here........and started the wordplay you refer to. I would still be interested in a sensible answer to my question (perhaps in a PM).

But comments here could also appear to be quotable gems - such as - possible here because "closed" and "opened" in this context are not opposites or mutually exclusive.

Wordplay indeed. In any context open and closed are opposites, please don't expect me to ever walk through a door that you assure me is open. In this context open means you can continue to contribute to a thread and closed means that you cannot - in our universe anyway - things may be different in Harlow.

As indeed I have found they are. I have never forgotten the flashing lights and alarms that I set off in the library there, when I mistakenly picked up the same book that I had just returned. Perhaps the library was not open? It was certainly soon closed....With me still in it!


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: greg stephens
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 06:39 PM

Rhe Shambles: yes I have got Sir JOhn from Hull's permission to quote from his Mudcat PM. He is, to my mind, Mudcat's wittiest person in terms of consistency over many years, which is why I quoted him. Please let's keep this thread to confined to quotations we have loved and wish to share with others.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 08:54 PM

Neutrinos can happen to anybody!! It's true!!!

Famed Folk Diva Schwartz Goes On Trial 06-Aug-01

You're standing on the boundary layer between semantics and raw untrammeled
unboxed poetic beauty.


Do songs have to make perfect sense? 17-Aug-01

But there really is no "they" there. Agreements -- cultural, judgemental, strategies, tactics,religions and economies -- are built of individual viewpoints, single folks communicating and taking action. That is the only rational basis for assessing the goodness and badness of people in the final analysis.

Do Americans know? 11-Apr-00

Solipsists of the world, Unite! You have nothing to lose but your Existence!·

BS: You Love Your Computer More Than Me! 27-Mar-00

I invent myself, therefore I am! The solipsist's answer to Descartes!

Ibid

Good news! Life doesn't COME with a meaning! It's a user modification!

Seeking the Meaning of Life, 27 Mar 00

Songs are a special vocabulary, used for saying things that neither prose nor other poetic forms quite touch, a special voice peculiar to Middle Earth.


Song writing questions -why?   27-Mar-00

Balance in all things, old man.... INCLUDING SELF ESTEEM!!!!


BS: Public Apology From M 23 Mar 00

Better to walk the walk of the universe than to argue about what to call it.:>)

BS: Cyberspace Friendships 21-Mar00

I say pour your hearts out and let the chips fall where they may.

Ibid, 20-Mar-00

good software design both comes from the heart and speaks to the heart when it is used

FUNDING CHALLENGE-Help the Mudcat! 22-Feb-00

Presumption is nine points of the law, m'dear...smile and you'll have something come along to smile about. Lilt and you will appear to be enittiled to do so.

Singing styles   22-Feb-00


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: kendall
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 09:35 PM

I'm not the man I used to think I was.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Bert
Date: 24 Aug 04 - 10:19 PM

You're right Shambles - Things ARE different in Harlow.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 12:08 AM

Not a 'Catter--at least I don't think so!--but I really like this one from Mike Cross (CD At Large in the World):

"My karma broke down on the Road to Glory,
My karma broke down, ain't that a shame.
My karma broke down, I'm in purgatory,
And I can't get a ticket on the astral plane."

Lin


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:05 AM

Wesley S came up with the following [posted in the latest 'hug and prayer complaint thread]- it says more in a few lines than I can ever manage, in my long-winded way.

Grant our members and guests the serenity to accept the things they cannot change - the courage to change the things they can - and the wisdom to realise that this is a forum open to the public and that they have no control over the posts and ideas of others


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don Firth
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 05:47 PM

I'm casting about trying to cobble up a good title for the book I'm working on (reminiscences of my experiences and adventures as a singer of folk songs, beginning in the early Fifties and up to the present). I did find the perfect title. But unfortunately, it's already used. It's the title of one of Art Thieme's many CDs:

"The Older I Get, The Better I Was."

Gawd!! That's marvelous!!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: pdq
Date: 25 Aug 04 - 06:08 PM

Yogi Bera:

   "I didn't say all the things I said."

Kenneth "Jethro" Burns:

   "Wherever you go, well there you are!"


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 11:00 AM

Aside from some minor distortions in time-measurement I would also mention that the slippery slide toward fascism is a tad more important than whether someone thinks I talk too much.

Amos, in the following thread.
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=66433&messages=18


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:13 PM

Keep in mind that perhaps the LAST person you want deleting stuff is somebody who says "Ooh, let me do it...I WANNA do it!"

Jeri in this thread.

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=72778&messages=102&page=1&desc=yes


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Jeri
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:32 PM

Yep, Shambles, carve that one in stone.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 26 Aug 04 - 01:53 PM

I can resist anything but a gift horse laid on a plate for me, with all the trimmings.

Me in this thread. *Smiles*


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: pdq
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 12:19 PM

...another great one from Don Firth...


   "I am of the opinion that people with multiple personalities should share them with people who don't have any."


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 05:23 PM

I think their quotes could be right.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 02:50 AM

Hello=
for them waht was wondering Greg Asked my permishun before qouting me in this thread
"Hi John, can i quoute you in a thread?"
me=Yes, course yuo can mate, no problum"

Shambles=you can also qoute my pm's, far as i can recall, i've sent you 2 pm's in the last couple of years , both telling you about blues music, hardly secret!, qoute them, i don't mind!


Note-Anyone feel free to copy here anything i've ever said in pm's, during my time here iv'e posted [on the main forum] my real name, address, phone number, date of birth, mothers name, phone number, hamsters name etc.

I often chat with Greg via the private message facility we have acsess to here, but nothing i've ever said is really secret!

[just stuff like "Hi greg, hows it going etc , blar, blar, balr".


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 03:02 AM

anyway=there was some talk a while ago of someone makimng a book/booklet of funny mudcat posts, my name was mentioned=go for it!
feel free to print anytinhg i've ever posted here that you think is funny, my only request is= if it makes money, give half the profit to mudcat [PM Max for the addresss]

Note I hereby give up any copyrights I may have to my posts, but hereby state that half of any profits made from such posts should be given to the organisation known as "Mudcat.org", failing that all copyrights will be retained.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 05:49 AM

Certainly, a request to avoid vulgarisms is reasonable, Ron. So is my request that we avoid mortal combat.
But does anybody listen to me????
-Joe Offer-

From this thread.
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=72785&messages=188&page=1&desc=yes


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 03:35 PM

"Don't forget, we know a lot more about politics than politicians do about folk music! Gurney from BS: Americans Should Read World Press


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: M.Ted
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 05:14 PM

This, exerpted from PoppaGator's comments on Is "contemporary blues" a contradiction?

It's more intelligent.. to approach any recording as one of many possible interpretations of the song, as performed by a given artist on one particular occasion... and... to create one's own interpretation of what one perceives as the essential "core" of the song.

It isn't a one liner, but it is very useful advice--


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 09:56 PM

Subject: Is bluegrass an attitude?
From: BanjoRay
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 12:53 PM

"Bluegrass uses a tune to show how good the players are, while Old Time musicians use their skill to show how good the tune is."


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: ThreeSheds
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 03:53 AM

I recieved a pm the other day from Hulls famous flamenco folky( everyone in the East Riding knows who I mean so that is most of Mudcat) In response to a pm I had sent him castigating him for taking the piss out of a worthwhile thread that I had set running he sent me the following BUT I REALLY DO LIKE MIKE HARDINGS RADIO PROGRAMME
I suppose I should just nod, smile and repeat things patiently as the poor chap is obviously in the early stages of dementia


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: ThreeSheds
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 12:06 PM

Also from the Is Bluegrass an attitude thread There is a line describing someones prancing about as a fart in a mitten. Does this make sense to anyone


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 01:41 PM

"What?" - Catspaw, from the Thread titled "A Discussion on Use of Atonal Scales" March 2000

"I don't get it!" - Catspaw, from "Alternate Meanings for Sir Patrick Spens" August 2002

"brrrrrAAAAAAWMPPPP !!!!" - Catspaw, from "Dithyrambic Folk Poetry" December 2003


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: karen k
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 04:15 PM

So, how many of these quotes (the really good ones like those that started this thread) can anyone use in a song?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 06:37 PM

Kendall: I'm as nervous as a Christian Scientist with a severed artery.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: pdq
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 08:42 PM

...another from the quote master Don Firth...

                   "Why are there so many more horses asses than there are horses?"


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Sep 04 - 08:18 AM

Subject: RE: Explain the BS rules
From: Max - PM
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 12:40 AM

Since you are with us, you get to help us make the rules. Of late it seems that it is used for non-music related questions, comments, thoughts and stories. It may be like just a light conversation piece, or just killing time, or getting through a bad day, or anything non-academic (if you will). Or, just don't use it. It is what you make it. Don't sweat the rules, cause there aint none.

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=14726&messages=56&page=1&desc=yes


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 11:10 AM

BS: New filter?
"a filter which individual members could set to remove particular pisters from all the threads"


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 11:21 AM

"It looks like nothing more than a rather one-sided pissing contest to me" (Jeri)


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 12:10 PM

Fortunato, in Kendall's biopsy:
I don't know you nearly as well as you deserve, and it's going to take some years to remedy that.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 01:57 PM

"...nervous as a Christian Scientist with a severed artery" Kendall himself, from that same thread.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 04 - 02:02 PM

Already noted, McGrath, about four posts up, but it bears repeating, it's so good..no offence to any of that belief.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Sep 04 - 03:20 AM

He had the whole world behind him and he chose to moon it!

Stop insulting the American President


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Acme
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 11:55 PM

Okay. This is really long. It's not a simple quote and I don't want to alter it a jot by paraphrasing. Those who don't read the Mother of All BS thread are not missing a lot, but occasionally they miss something. Like the following, which is simply the funniest thing I've read on the Mudcat in ages:

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Bee-dubya-ell - PM
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 03:25 PM

As some of you folks of above average deductive powers may have deduced, the "Zeke Floyd" posts made to this and other threads are totally bogus, spurious and fraudulent. Yes, I posted those messages! However, they are based upon fact. There really is a Zeke Floyd! I have actually met the man! I was so impressed, if that's the appropriate word, that I felt compelled to create a "Zeke Floyd" alter-ego and bring him to life here on the MOAB. Yet, as is often the case, truth is stranger than fiction and I am pleased to present the following true story of my experience with Zeke Floyd and his dogs.   

As I was returning from my latest road trip, I noticed two dogs, a yellow female and a black and tan male, on the shoulder of the road a few hundred feet north of our driveway. When I stopped to check the mailbox the dogs must have thought I had stopped to interact with them in some fashion because they came loping down the road and up to the van as if they were expecting something. Having no use for dogs, I told them to get the hell away. I then drove down my quarter-mile-long driveway to the house and began unloading a few things from the van. So, what should appear in a few moments, snooping around and scaring my cats? You guessed it, the very same two dogs. I again told them to scram, whereupon they ran about fifty feet away and lie down in the middle of the driveway.

Now, the road trip from which I had returned had been replete with dogs: my stepson's two exceedingly rambunctious half-grown Labradors, my parents' obsessive-compulsive dachshund, and my daughter's long-haired Chihuahua puppy which lives in her purse. I was completely dogged out and in the mood for feline companionship and these two strays had decided to take over my yard, sending my cats onto rooftops and into trees. It appeared that dogs had become part of my recent karma and that the karmic debt had not yet been paid in full.

I was actively bemoaning my apparent fate when I noticed that the yellow female was wearing a collar. "Aha!" I thought to myself, "A collar means an owner, so these are lost dogs, not strays. All I need to do is contact the owner and he'll come get 'em." So, I attempted to coax the collar-wearing bitch to me so I could see if the collar had a tag with the owner's name and phone number. She came within a few feet and I could see a brass nameplate on the collar, but she wouldn't come quite close enough for me to actually grab the collar and read the thing. We played the approach-avoidance game for about fifteen minutes until I was actually able to grab the collar and read the name "Zeke Floyd" followed by a phone number. So, I went inside, called Mr. Floyd, and told him where his dogs could be found.

Now, another thing I had done on that road trip from which I had just returned, in addition to visiting relatives with dogs, was to visit the Salvador Dali Museum in St. Petersburg, Florida. That brief but total immersion into the world of Surrealism couldn't hold a candle to the surreal scene that unfolded when Zeke Floyd came to get his dogs.

The sun had gone down and darkness was upon the face of the homestead. I was outside with a flashlight so I could make sure Zeke's dogs didn't decide to go visit some other fool's place now that their owner was on his way to relieve me of them. I heard a vehicle in the driveway, saw headlights coming around the final curve and was greeted by the sight, sound and smell of a mid-1960's Dodge pickup truck with rattling body panels and clattering valve lifters emitting a cloud of noxious oily blue smoke. The driver didn't turn the engine off, presumably because he wasn't sure the thing would crank back up if he did so. The driver's side door creaked open and Zeke Floyd himself stepped out into the oil-smoke-impregnated atmosphere, carrying a ten-foot length of manilla rope in his right hand. If you want to know what Zeke looks like, just go to the "Kenny Tague" post below, click on the picture link, and imagine what Kenny would look like if he were sixty-five years old and had no teeth. "Howdy!" I said to Zeke in my best attempt at neighborliness, only to be totally ignored as he lunged for the yellow dog which skillfully squirmed away from his grasp. If I had been entertaining visions of some kind of happy reunion between adoring, trusting canines and their loving master, they were quickly put to rest. It was obvious that the dogs liked Zeke a lot less than they liked me, which was none at all. "Dammit, dawg!" Zeke hollered as he watched both his missed target and its companion run off down the driveway. He then climbed back into his smoking truck, nearly backed it into my own much newer and non-smoking Dodge pickup, and roared off down the driveway, never having acknowledged my existence in any fashion.      

Well, I thought I'd seen the last of Zeke and his dogs at that point, but almost as soon as I had walked into the house I heard Zeke's truck heading back up the driveway. I stepped back outside, popped the flashlight back on, and there were the dogs again, having doubled back and given Zeke the slip. So a few seconds later the old Dodge slid back into the yard, Zeke jumped out and lunged for the yellow bitch again and, this time, snagged her by the collar. He proceeded to drag the whining dog to the back of the truck where he opened the tailgate and attempted to open the door of a plastic pet-carrier he had brought along. Since he couldn't let go of the struggling dog, I volunteered to get the carrier door open for him and, as soon as it was open, Zeke began trying to stuff the Labrador-sized dog into a the Spaniel-sized carrier. The entire operation was complicated by the fact that, during the time we'd been struggling with the pet-carrier door, the male dog had been overcome by a bout of lust and was busily screwing the bitch for all he was worth. Dogs! There he was, in a noisy, smoke-filled, tumultuous atmosphere, being recaptured by someone he obviously despised, and instead of hauling ass off into the woods where freedom was his for the taking, he decided to take the opportunity to knock off a piece while ol' Zeke held it by the collar. Talk about thinking with your dick!

Anyway, Zeke separated the two dogs, stuffed the female into the undersized carrier, and grabbed the black and tan male by the scruff of the neck. I was expecting him to tie the second dog to the truck in some fashion or, maybe, put it up front in the cab with himself. But, no, he opened the pet-carrier door again and began stuffing the second dog into the already overstuffed plastic box. He got the critter in there somehow and closed the door, but sardines in a tin have never been packed tighter than those two dogs were. Then Zeke got back into his truck, nearly backed into my own truck again, and roared off down the driveway, never having spoken to me, made eye contact, nor uttered a word other than "dammit" and "dawg" the entire time he'd been there.

And ya'll know this story's gotta be the truth 'cause I don't have a vivid enough imagination to make this kinda shit up.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 07:08 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Is Religion a form of Mental Illness ???
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 07 Dec 04 - 04:19 AM

Maybe it's the ideologues who are mentally ill - those who mindlessly tie themselves to an ideology or guru, whoever or whatever it is. They have somehow lost the ability to question themselves - and that's when they're dangerous.

We do look to various philosophies and theologies to answer the unanswerable questions of life - that's a natural consequence of being human. When we see absolute truth only in our own ideology, we become dangerous.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Shambolic
Date: 08 Dec 04 - 02:15 AM

Yawn.......


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Dec 04 - 04:31 AM

Can I quote you on that Shambolic?
Giok


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 10:54 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free
From: Amos - PM
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 10:27 AM

.... Just some kind of yellow journalism, the sad result of too many Republicans peeing in the snow.

A


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Cruiser
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 12:55 PM

For all of Little Hawk's personal and philosophical failings (JK), this is one of his Gems!

{Quote}
On a tree by a river sat one Little Hawk
Sang "Wallow, dipwallow, dipwallow! {End Quote}

The full text of his "poetry" is at the link below. This is one of the funniest threads on BS Mudcat. Fortunately, although it was spawned by something said in the MOAB thread (which I do not read), Little Hawk saw fit to "wax poetically" on this BS thread:

Sang One Little Hawk....Dipwallow...

So, for all things balderdash, I will forever be indebted to Little Hawk for coining a new word for Balderdash!

Dipwallow!


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: mooman
Date: 18 Dec 04 - 01:00 PM

jOhn from Hull

This is a music site not accordion site...

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 03:33 PM

Subject: RE: Auschwitz and other mass murder
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jan 05 - 02:50 PM

Could and may be starting to. The answer is to strenuously question authority and reject automatic agreement, know why you decide what you do and double check your premises.
Independent thought is a precious commodity in a brainwashed era.


A


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 31 Jan 05 - 07:59 AM

Subject: RE: BS: is it ever wrong or weak to be agnostic
From: shepherdlass - PM
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 06:08 PM

There's one thing in favour of agnosticism (and I'm proud to be one of the order of bet-hedgers) - you don't often see someone strap a bomb to themselves to defend their right to sit on the fence.


~S~


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: JennyO
Date: 31 Jan 05 - 08:36 AM

Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed!
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 30 Jan 05 - 03:43 PM

Shambles don't go on please, if I'd have known I could have got nagged like this for free, I could have saved the cost of a wedding.

Giok


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 31 Jan 05 - 09:20 AM

The following is the entire text of the third message posted to the Mother Of All BS Threads, which is now approaching 6000 posts and showing no signs of imminent demise:

Subject: RE: BS: The Mother of all BS threads
From: Allan C. - PM
Date: 05 May 03 - 08:41 PM

Not to burst your bubble, Khandu, but this has been tried before with such things as birthdays, welcome-to-new-members, remarks from trolls, and a few others - always with rapidly diminishing results.

Just how big was that bubble anyway?




So much for Allan's precognitive abilities...




The only other worthwhile quotation that comes to mind is this one from Chongo Chimp:

Ooook?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Acme
Date: 31 Jan 05 - 09:45 AM

Just so you don't quote the S-man, BWL.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 07:02 PM

If you cannot clearly argue the opposite viewpoint, you cannot truly defend your own. Bill D in BS: Thinking about recent threads -Bill D


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 09:46 PM

quote by An Pluiméir Ceolmhar (whew, trying spelling that one!)
in this thread




The award for highest signal-to-noise ratio on the whole internet goes to Masato.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Allan C.
Date: 03 Feb 05 - 08:47 AM

Thanks, Bobert, for pointing out that glaring bit of misprognostication. Khandu razzed me about that a long time ago in a PM. I'm happy to be wrong about that thread. There's a lot of fun packed into it.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 03 Feb 05 - 06:37 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Pope John Paul
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 02 Feb 05 - 04:40 PM

Yeah, it might be nice to take a vacation from politics and religion for a week, and talk about music. Or maybe we could talk about these subjects with tolerance and an open mind?


What a good idea.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 04 Feb 05 - 03:33 AM

These aren't quotations by 'Catters but they may amuse 'Catters. As I no longer work in universities, I have forgotten to note the sources!

One novel I read had the narrator suffering a bad band whom he wished to consign to:
"A purgatory reserved for people with bad voices who insisted on playing instruments they couldn't control or understand. The next level down was for sinners who had to listen to them."
(Why did that make me squirm?!)

In another detective novel the pathologist was called out at the weekend but didn't object as she was married to a mandolin player who was at a 3-day jazz & folk festival. "Is there enough jazz & folk for three days?" asked the copper. "Enough?" she replied. "They won't have got out of minor keys"!

RtS


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 07 Feb 05 - 10:39 AM

From Big Mick, writing in the "Christians -- Moral vs 'Moral" thread:

It is the mark of intellectual weakness to attack on a personal level that which you cannot refute.


A


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 12:15 AM

Subject: RE: BS: The flaw in Christian Theology
From: Peg - PM
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 12:03 AM

Interesting thread.

I really liked the part where people were actually making a serious effort to elucidate the differences between Bill Moyers and Rush Limbaugh.


Rather like comparing apples, and ugli fruit.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,The Shambles
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 06:35 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Test for ID of ISP Addresses: Joe Offer
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 02:01 AM

Yeah, Clinton - that's one of the disadvantages of trying to preserve freedom around here.
It gets messy.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 09:57 AM

Sometimes the stuff we own begins to own us.


Kaleea, on "Expensive Hobbies"


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 10:09 AM

Where's the Chat gone seems to be a regular quote !!


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Leadfingers
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 10:10 AM

And the anonymous post above was MY 100th !!


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,WYSWIYG
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 01:34 PM

Subject: RE: BS: The flaw in Christian Theology
From: Peg
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 01:14 PM

It seems to me that one could easily find, as has been pointed out, flaws in pretty much any ideology or theology.

The important questions to ponder, it seems to me, have to do with whether any of this is working for anyone.

Are people happy? Fulfilled? Do they have their basic needs met? Do they strive to help others, from a sense of basic human compassion rather than some institionalized sense of guilt? Do they maintain an open mind and heart with regard to the opinions, lifestyles, actions, looks, or beliefs of others? Do they find beauty and wonder in their daily lives? Do they try each day to make the world a better place? Do they try to better themselves? Do they confront life's pain and difficulty with strength and hope, and try not to stay bitter and fearful when bad things happen? Do they appreciate what they have? Do they forgive others, and themselves, for wrongdoing?

I know a whole lot of people of all different religious beliefs and practices, including myself, who could certainly be doing more to be good people.

We're all here. I am constantly perplexed by the vast numbers of people I encounter who aren't trying to make the best of things in the time they have. We are not promised tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Mar 05 - 12:11 PM

I just read a post by The Shambles that I feel belongs here:

"The trick is to try and always ensure that we live in system where the choice to do the right thing - is one that is open to us...."


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 16 Apr 05 - 01:21 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Brucie's thread
From: kendall - PM
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 07:51 AM

No expects logic in the forum.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:17 PM

I had thought that I had posted this quote on this thread before - but I must have been mistaken.....?

Yes, I think you may well be first on the list, my friend. It's time for you either to shut up, or to use a name and take responsibility for what you have to say. If you continue to refuse to use a name, you will be come a non-person around here, and every single message you post will be deleted.
Free speech is fine, but you're just a pain in the ass.
-Joe Offer-


From the following thread.

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=56969#894819


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:43 PM

Great! Shambles has quoted (directly above) from a thread in which the first post was:

"Subject: Cut-and-Paste Prohibitions
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 06:46 PM


Cut-and-Paste Policy (non-music)
OK, people, the cut-and-paste policy is stated in the FAQ, and I'll include it in this message. Everybody is expected to follow it, members and non-members alike. In the past, I tried to be nice and to replace cut-and-paste non-music information with a link. I don't bother with that so often now.

It's very nice that you political experts know how to cut-and-paste. Now, I'd like to ask you to learn how to make clickable links. Jeff has even provided a link-maker for you, if you don't care to learn HTML. Since you already know how to cut-and-paste so well, the linkmaker should suit you just fine.



The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #19340   Message #738292
Posted By: Joe Offer
27-Jun-02 - 01:05 PM
Thread Name: Mudcat FAQ - Newcomer's Guide
Subject: Please Don't Copy-Paste Long Non-Music Articles
Please remember that Mudcat is a Music Forum. We welcome discussion of all topics, but we give special emphasis to music.
If you wish to discuss other topics, you are welcome to post your own opinions. Please do not copy-paste the entire texts of lengthy non-music articles that are available elsewhere on the Internet - just post a link and summarize the article in your own words.
I don't routinely delete threads because they're political or controversial. I DO delete cut-and-paste non-music articles when I find them. We don't have room for people to debate simply by throwing newspaper articles at each other - but we DO allow political discussions if people express their own opinions.
If you find music information or lyrics you wish to share, particularly if it is about folk music, please DO post the entire text, plus a link to where you found it.
Thank you.
-Joe Offer-
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I don't routinely delete threads because they're political or controversial. I DO delete cut-and-paste non-music articles when I find them. We don't have room for people to debate simply by throwing newspaper articles at each other - but we DO allow political discussions if people express their own opinions. -Joe-

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Abuse of Thread Creation
In addition, it seems are a very few people who create a very large number of our threads - and most of these threads have nothing to do with music, which is the primary focus of this Forum. All of us are concerned about the current political situation, and we all have a need to voice our opinion. However, I can't see why we have to split this discussion into so many pieces, why it is so important for these few people to start so many new threads on more-or-less the same thing.

I've experimented with various methods of controlling this mess, and I haven't found the perfect solution. I'm open to suggestions, and I will continue to try a variety of things. When things get out of hand, you can expect to see threads consolidated or renamed, and frivolous threads deleted.

I count 14 Iraq threads active today. I'm mad as hell about Bush's statement that he "respectfully disagrees" with the millions who protest his Iraq war - but I don't know where to put my comments, or whether somebody else has already said what I have to say.

I'm frustrated. What can we do to put a sense of order into our discussion of the political situation? How can we allow everyone to say what they think, without allowing the Forum to be dominated by a few idiots who overwhelm us with their verbosity?

I'll tell you one thing I'm going to do: if you start a thread with a cut-and-paste non-music article, I'll delete the whole damn thread. The policy on cut-and-paste is clear. Follow it.

Another thing you can expect: if you start more than one political thread in a day, expect them all to be consolidated with others. Your limit is ONE PER DAY, and fewer would be greatly appreciated.

-Joe Offer- "



This means he must be aware of the contents of that thread, and can no longer pretend to be in ignorance of the policy on cut'n'paste threads, or on the policy of combining multiple threads started on a single subject matter.
I trust he will no longer pretend that he has only read those parts which he chooses to copy/paste

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:45 PM

Subject: RE: BS: I blame the Romans...
From: brucie - PM
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 03:27 PM

The NYPD, The FBI, and the CIA are all trying to prove that
they are the best at apprehending criminals. The President
decides to give them a test. He releases a rabbit into a
forest and each of them has to catch it.

The CIA goes in. They place animal informants throughout the
forest. They question all plant and mineral witnesses. After
three months of extensive investigations they conclude that
rabbits do not exist.

The FBI goes in. After two weeks with no leads they burn the
forest, killing everything in it, including the rabbit, and
they make no apologies. The rabbit had it coming.


The NYPD goes in. They come out two hours later with a badly
beaten bear. The bear is yelling, "Okay! Okay! I'm a
rabbit! I'm a rabbit!"


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 12:10 AM

That is a great story, Sham. But we all know that Brucie was making it up, because it could never have happened that way. In fact, the cops came out of the forest holding one of those Sony AIBO mechanical dogs, with a long leather strap attached to its neck.   They brought it to the White House and said, "Mr. President, do you have any idea why this thing was tied to a tree?" And W replied: "Well, Dick Cheney told me that if I wanted to test you guys I should leash a robot in the woods."

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: alanabit
Date: 07 May 05 - 05:02 AM

"It's so very much easier to hide behind the law (policy, procedure) than to take responsibility.... "
Rapaire on the "Why I love cranky old people," thread. May 5/05.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 May 05 - 10:54 AM

From: brucie

When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

Re the Mudcat


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 19 May 05 - 09:41 PM

Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:45 PM

Subject: RE: BS: I blame the Romans...
From: brucie - PM
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 03:27 PM

Just noticed this. I did not write that. Found it on the www somewhere.

BM


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jun 05 - 08:45 AM

This is from The Shambles, of all people, in the "Jacko is Innocent" thread in reply to Jeri who was trying to get a response to a couple of his earlier postings.

Yes Jeri and they probably noticed from your first post............................................No need to repeat yourself..


DC


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Doug Chadwick
Date: 05 Jun 05 - 08:47 AM

Ooops! That was me above, coming in by the back door


DC


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 05 Jun 05 - 12:32 PM

Context is important - I am told. So is getting the complete quote right.

Did anybody else watch the friggin' video?

Yes Jeri and they probably noticed from your first post that you found it funny and well done....No need to repeat yourself..(or do Catspaw impressions) *Smiles*

It was intended as a joke..........


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 05 Jun 05 - 04:43 PM

The best I have seen on Mudcat, but I can't remember the poster's name, nor can I find the thread on which the comment was made. Perhaps the owner will step up and claim it.

"Opinions are like belly buttons. Everybody has on, but mostly they don't hold much water".

Works for me
Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Jun 05 - 05:08 PM

Subject: RE: BS: MARGINALS: We're winning (UK)
From: GUEST,Stevie D - PM
Date: 12 May 05 - 05:07 AM

Thats O.K, no offence caused, i'm just really gettin into this mudcat thing. Great to hear all the opinions though.

Remember. Opinions are like belly buttons, everyones got one, none of them hold much water.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Jun 05 - 03:44 PM

Subject: RE: BS: 'there is no Iraq military solution'
From: Donuel - PM
Date: 22 Jun 05 - 07:37 PM

"Where we disagree is in the fact that the war is being fought based on a pack of lies and the parallels that are being drawn to Vietnam.
Also, the fact of whether or not the Iraqis even want us there. But I do think that one thing that we can agree on is the fact that we are there"

.................

This reads a bit like a movie script in which 3 guys in a Vegas hotel room are trying to come to grips with the fact they have a dead hooker in thier room.

One guy wants to call the cops but the savvy guy argues that the one thing they can agree upon is the fact there is a dead body in the bathroom and they will have to deal with it themselves. Heck they don't feel like murderers. Besides its only a hooker.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 01:51 PM

When the mudcat is down I just don't post to it. I also don't read what others don't post to it. I know that's a different approach, but it seems to work for me. John Hardly from What's up with Mudcat?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 07:14 PM

McGrath said the above quote was the "miost apt one" - but then he must have missed this one...

From: GUEST,Suzi - PM
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 01:11 PM

I have been trying to get onto mucat all day, and when I tried the back door some sort of porn site came up three times....
So I gave up till just now..... AAHHH In at last.
Thank you Max...

Suzi....

What's up with Mudcat?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Kaleea
Date: 18 Jul 05 - 08:01 PM

I don't need no stinking tech info--I wouldn't understand it anyhoo. I'm just glad when I can enjoy being on the Mudcat forum. When I can't get on here, I might be forced to see what else is out there----------oooooooo, scary monster!


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Yawn
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 11:34 AM

Hehe - couldn't let this one pass - ya gotta love it!

Subject: RE: In the UK......? (thread title change complaint)
From: Big Mick
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 09:45 AM

I smell another 2000 posts, most of which will be the very epitome of redundancy.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 06:02 PM

I'm glad you pointed this out - I missed most of the first 2000 too...


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 02:00 PM

Most of them were from Mick - telling others not to respond - but do they follow his advice - does anyone? These posts would certainly appear to be the epitome of redundancy.*Smiles*

So does pointing out many things on our forom these days....No one seemed to take any notice or care when the post saying the following (due to an incorrect imposed title change) was predicted to appear as a result.
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Subject: RE: Minister say's jamming OK in UK
From: Jim McLean - PM
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 07:37 AM

Am I correct in assuming this new licensing act only applies to England and Wales and not the UK?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 03:16 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Idealism
From: akenaton - PM
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 02:54 AM

Tomasso Campanella...16th century Catholic priest.

"The people" is beast of muddy brain,who wages war for its chains, rather than be free.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 08:46 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Have the Libs/Conservs Traded Places?...
From: Peace - PM
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 12:19 AM

'It's really simple, Bobert. Some folks have to be brainwashed. For others, a light rinse will do.'

Subject: RE: BS: Have the Libs/Conservs Traded Places?...
From: Peace - PM
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 01:36 AM

'The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.'


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 08:52 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Left-Handed, 5 pocket Jeans
From: gnu - PM
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 08:17 PM

Yeah... some jeans are like a cheap hotel... no ballroom.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 02:30 PM

Peter T has a flight of fancy about George Bush addressing the Boy Scouts:

"But perhaps he decided to show up in order to drum up recruits for the Iraq War some years down the road given the way it is going (unless he is considering dramatically lowering the recruitment age requirement the way it has just been raised at the other end of the age cohort.)

"Scouts!! When Alexander the Great was your age he was wandering around in the Middle East!!! We are wandering around in the Middle East!!! So I was thinking.......""


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: freda underhill
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 07:03 AM


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Aug 05 - 10:03 AM

when freda says nothing, she doesn't necessarily MEAN nothing.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 07:26 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Intelligent Assessment On Fascism
From: Don Firth - PM
Date: 17 Aug 05 - 04:53 PM

I think that in most people's minds, the word "fascism" conjures up images of black uniforms, swastika armbands, jackboots, and goose-stepping troops. But that sort of image is just one dictator's particular style. Fascists can just as easily be found wearing dark suits and power ties, while smiling pleasantly in board rooms and Congressional committee meetings. Nor does the definition of fascism require racism, such as Hitler's anti-Semitism. It usually does, however, need some kind of scapegoat to keep the populace a bit scared and to justify the steps it wants to take to tighten its authority. Gays, or terrorists, or pro-choicers, or those who are adamant about not want religion crammed down their throats?or the most dreaded evil force of all:   "liberals"?can fill that function just as well.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 06:19 PM

Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 02:08 PM

...

... I for one have no wish to have a say in how Max's site is run.


~Susan


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 08:51 AM

Subject: RE: HI Max: What about Shambles requests?
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 02:08 PM

Shambles, what part of what MMario said do you not understand? It is quite clear to most of us that this site belongs to Max. We have NO say in how it is run.


Kendall - It is indeed long been clear that this site belongs to Max and I for one have no wish to have a say in how Max's site is run.

However this is a part of Max's website that he has very generously set aside for invited contributions from the public and called the Mudcat Discussion Forum. I have some agreement - for my reference to this part of Max's site - as our forum. It is from a very unlikely source - and perhaps you would agree with the both of us?


[PM] Joe Offer BS: Censorship on Mudcat (1009* d) RE: BS: Censorship on Mudcat 31 Mar 05

Well, I have to agree with Shambles that Max seems to convey the idea that this is "our" forum. However, it also seems quite clear that very few of us want "our" forum to be taken over by those who would wish to make it a place of combat and chaos.

So, Max appointed some of us to try to keep down the worst of the nastiness. We don't do enough to satisfy some people (Clinton Hammond, for example), and we do too much to satisfy Shambles.

So, we continue to stumble along what we see as the middle path, knowing that we will never satisfy everybody. Such is life.

-Joe Offer-


Our forum is certainly not Joe Offer's and it does not say that it is in the FAQ - yet.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:07 AM

Roger I think you'll find that this is a thread where other people blow your trumpet for you!
G..


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:34 AM

what part of that collection of mish-mash is supposed to be the special, timeless quotation?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: jeffp
Date: 24 Aug 05 - 09:39 AM

Subject: (thread title change complaint)
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 23 Aug 05 - 03:06 PM

Well, let me tell you a story:


Once upon a time, there was a very nice boy named Roger. At least, his mother thought he was a very nice boy. Everything went along swimmingly in Roger's life because his mother adored him. Until he went to Kindergarten. Well, actually, Kindergarten went along quite well, and Little Roger played very well with the other children, and he ended the school year with an "A" in Sandbox. And Little Roger was the Teacher's Pet, and was very loyal to his Teacher Mrs. Offer and always said nice things about her.

But then in First Grade, when Mrs. Offer was still his teacher, Roger learned how to give speeches. He liked to hear himself give speeches, so he gave speeches constantly, and he began having problems. His mother still adored him and thought his speeches were wonderful, but Roger soon found that others did not adore him properly, and he became quite unhappy with their lack of deference. He simply couldn't understand why the other children didn't listen to him, and why they didn't share his opinions, and why they acted bored when he gave the same three-hour speech every day. He became especially upset when the children began to mimic and mock his speechifying. He became even more upset when Mrs. Offer asked him nicely to be quiet and give the other children time to give speeches. So Roger began acting out.

He decided that the teacher, Mrs. Offer, was responsible for all of his unhappiness. Mrs. Offer was a very nice person and tried to treat all the children with equal niceness, but she did not adore little Roger. Since Mrs. Offer did not show him proper deference, little Roger decided she was nice at all, and he began to question her authority. Thirty times a day, little Roger passed notes around the class, listing out-of-context excerpts from all the things that Mrs. Offer had said over her entire career as teacher. Little Roger would get up in class and give long speeches about how the Principal, Maxine Mirror, had supreme authority in the school and certainly didn't like the dictatorial way that Mrs. Offer conducted class, and that the class certainly should not listen to anything Mrs. Offer had to say. Most of the class disagreed with Little Roger, and they spent the entire day trying to convince Roger that he was wrong. Now, there was one little girl, HappyGirl, who loved Roger and believed everything he said, and she loved to listen to his three-hour speeches. Roger thought it was very nice that HappyGirl believed in him, and this inspired him to increase the length of his speeches to four hours. As a result of this, First Grade seemed to last forever, and the children were very bored. And nobody learned Proper Grammar. And Little Roger's grammar was worst of all.

As luck would have it, Mrs. Offer was promoted to Second Grade the next year, and she was given a very substantial raise in pay and a much larger classroom. And wouldn't you know it, Little Roger was promoted to Second Grade, too. Because Mrs. Offer had so much extra work, Mrs. Mirror the Principal appointed certain children to clean the blackboard and tidy up the classroom. Mrs. Mirror did not publish a list of children who were authorized to clean the blackboard, and Little Roger was very distrustful of this policy. The Blackboard Cleaners were appointed by Mrs. Mirror herself, but Little Roger found it convenient to question their Authority to Erase Blackboards. Little Roger declared that the Only True Decisions could be made by Mrs. Mirror, and that nobody could trust the Evil Mrs. Offer and the Blackboard Cleaners and their conspiracy to deprive little innocent schoolchildren of their right to Know Nothing and to speak with Improper Grammar. Furthermore, Little Roger declared that not one word should be erased from the blackboard without the permission of the person who wrote that word. And time went on, and Little Roger gave his four-hour speeches and passed thirty notes a day through the classroom all year during Second Grade, and all the children fell asleep, and still nobody learned Proper Grammar, but Mrs. Offer and everybody were promoted to Third Grade the next year.

And to they all were promoted again to Fourth Grade after another year of speeches and messages about all the horrible things Mrs. Offer had done since Kindergarten. Little Roger kept talking about how wonderful and benevolent the Principal Maxine Mirror was, and Mrs. Offer often suggest that Little Roger should go to Mrs. Mirror and discuss his unhappiness. But Little Roger never spoke to Mrs. Mirror, because he was afraid that Mrs. Mirror might disagree with him. Still, he continued to make speeches about how Mrs. Mirror was truly wise and agreed with everything Little Roger said, and that Mrs. Mirror actually despised Mrs. Offer and thought that she was a horrible teacher.

And finally, on the very last day of Fourth Grade, Mrs. Offer got tired of all of Little Roger's manipulation and speechifying, and she said:
Shut Up, Roger, You Asshole!
And the police came and arrested Mrs. Offer on a felony charge of Child Abuse for Using Naughty Language in the Presence of a Child.

And she was sentenced to thirty years in prison, and there she is to this very day.

End of story.

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No, it's not the end of the story. What happened was that Little Roger was appointed Teacher, which was a Fate Worse Than Death because HappyGirl turned on him, and made his life More Miserable Than One Could Imagine.

And Mrs. Offer was very pleased that she was safely locked away in prison. And she formed a song circle with the prison guards and they spent the rest of their days singing happily away. And Mrs. Offer forgot about Proper Grammar and became the World Authority on Prison Songs and was recorded by Alan Lomax and got a pardon from the Governor and a star on the sidewalk of Hollywood Boulevard.

And Mrs. Offer forgot all about Poor Little Roger. And then Mrs. Offer had a sex change operation and became Mr. Offer, and became a Forum Moderator at the Mudcat Cafe.

I thought the story should have a happy ending, but I do wish that it had a happier ending for Poor Little Roger. I lied about Mrs. Offer being still in prison, and I apologize publicly for that. I apologize sincerely for all my failures, but I did try so hard to help Roger learn to speak with Proper Grammar. He learned to speak long and often, but he never did learn to speak well. And he never, ever learned the meaning of the word "succinct." Such is life.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: JennyO
Date: 29 Aug 05 - 10:19 AM

Subject: RE: BS: '---' goes off meds again, revives Shat
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 27 Mar 05 - 10:18 PM

Oh, Shit....

13 Shatner threads active today. I wonder what asshole is responsible for this. If I use my "delete" button, then Shambles will reopen 43 censorship threads.

Maybe I'll just call Martin Gibson a #$%& and leave it at that...


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 13 Sep 05 - 09:46 AM

As with state and church, the best government will strive to firmly separate state and hatred.

A


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 02:13 AM

The first post ? in a thread that was wrongly closed by someone still unknown and then re-opened by Joe Offer. Closing threads

Subject: Tech: Closing threads?
From: The Shambles - PM
Date: 28 Aug 05 - 03:59 PM

Is there some technical advantage given to the general effective running of our forum - by the closing of threads?

Does it make the site less technically effective in any way or make it run slower - if all threads are left open for new contributions?

No technical reason at all, Shambles. We do it for valid but non-technical reasons that I've explained below. That's why I moved this thread to the "BS" section.
Next question?
-Joe Offer-


And the last post ? and the reasons why Joe Offer decided to close it (again)!

Subject: RE: Tech: Closing threads?
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 14 Sep 05 - 01:09 PM

OK, so now I know which volunteer closed the thread, and we've discussed the matter.
And as I've said earlier in this thread, it's an internal matter and has been resolved internally. That being said, I can't say anything more. Shambles has his honest answer, so I think it's time to close this thread.
-Joe Offer-

If you really see a need to join Shambles in discussing this subject further, see Opening threads a debate, which is really about closing threads.


Hopefully this thread (and every other thread) will be free of the imposed movement and two closures that Closing threads   Has been subject to..........For 'valid but non technical reasons'? You judge....


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 03:56 AM

Roger once again you use this thread wrongly in my opinion, it is for sometimes wise, and some times funny 'quotable quotes' which are thought worthy of perpetuation by people drawing fellow Mudcatters attention to them, and hopefully they will share the posters appreciation of the quote.
IT IS NOT a vehicle for you to pursue your paranoid campaign against perceived slights and affronts to you and your deathless [sic] prose PLEASE Roger will you for fucks sake give it a rest or better still take your obsessions elsewhere, because everybody I speak to about it is as fed up with your tripe as I am.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 04:15 AM

I second that Giok

DT


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 04:37 AM

The idea of intentionally posting to change the intended subject of a thread is one that is now thought by some of our contributors - not only to be acceptable but also to be an amusing diversion and is an example that is eagerly followed by others.

In my opinion - it is not acceptable. This thread is for notable quotes - like the following:

http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=1499823

I agree with both the preceeding guests, I have only been around for about 4 years, but in that time I've seen people condemned and castigated for a lot less the Martin Gibson got away with. I was disappointed that Joe Offer seemed to excuse him while on the other hand crossing swords with The Shambles over much less offensive postings. I also found it funny that a lot of people seemed to excuse Martin's behaviour on the grounds that he was pretty knowledgable on some aspects of folk music, and anyway he was being rude mostly below the line, which some seem to regard as 'beyond the pale' anyway. That's a bit like saying you excuse Hitler because he was good with kids. As has been said MG should have been curbed long before he got to be the problem he has to quite a few people, and he did show up a weakness in the policing of this forum that I love.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 04:59 AM

And that proves what exactly Roger?
G.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 05:00 AM

I have to say, Roger, that your Mudcat moniker is one of the most apposite I have ever seen. You have reduced multiple threads on this forum to a shambles.

I have no objection to your expressing your opinion on any subject that takes your fancy, but I do object to the way in which you choose to exercise that right for the following reasons.

1. You do not discuss, you rant. When someone disagrees with you, you do not present a response, you repeat the original rant, in slightly different form.

2. You do not answer specific questions, you once again present the original rant.

3. You constantly quote others out of context, twisting their comment to support your case.

4. You do all the above in language one might expect to find in a contract from a dodgy loan company. i.e. largely incomprehensible.

5. You constantly admonish others for passing judgement on you, while daily passing similar judgements on Joe and the clones.

6. You do all the above on multiple threads, many of which have subjects worthy of discussion, but are totally disrupted by your unnecessary input.

When one person tells you you're a fool, that's just his opinion. When everybody tells you you're a fool, go buy a cap and bells and look for a king in need of a jester.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 05:13 AM

Subject: RE: Cut-and-Paste Prohibitions
From: Cluin - PM
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 11:17 PM

That's what I've wondered about... how do these folk find the Mudcat? Do they come for the lyrics and stay for the flaming?


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 09:37 PM

Roger, I have read your PM, and as it was a private communication I shall not publish it here. I do not, however intend to get involved in a pointless exchange of PMs duplicating what can already be seen in a huge number of threads, both past and current.

In answer to a couple of points:-

1. I do not consider you to BE a fool. That comment was, and would be recognised by most readers as, a (light hearted) metaphor. Since you did not realise that, I will put it plainly.

If one person says you are wrong, that is an opinion. If everyone says you are wrong, re-examine your basic premise.

Your post above in response to mine, proves my point rather neatly. You answer my reasoned comment, not with an equally reasoned rebuttal, but with a cut-and-paste from another poster on a totally unrelated thread.

You have become a sort of Mudcat Don Quixote, self appointed to defend the rights of us less enlightened souls, against a nebulous malevolent authority.

That's fine as far as it goes, but I really think that most of us would like to see a change of windmill.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Sep 05 - 09:39 PM

And now, can we please have THIS thread back as a repository for wise and/or witty quotes?

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 09:33 AM

Subject: RE: Cut-and-Paste Prohibitions
From: McGrath of Harlow - PM
Date: 19 Feb 03 - 07:32 PM

I know who you are...

Big Offer is watching you... But I can live with that.

Who was it said that there was a lot to be said for a system of government based on benevolent dictatorship tempered by revolution?



Sure made me laugh.

*Please note that some anonymous volunteer fellow poster has now passed judged upon this thread and has imposed relegatation of it - to the BS section.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 12:16 PM

Still no answer.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Sep 05 - 01:04 PM

He'll be back to post an irrelevant quotation which in no way answers any points of yours or mine. However at present he's busy cutting and pasting crap in some other thread.
FO Roger.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 05:36 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Blairs first defeat
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T - PM
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 12:54 PM

>Snip<
Erosion of civil rights is a not a process to be undertaken lightly, and the last people who should be trusted with it are those who call for it in the first place.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:16 PM

Irrelevant to this thread. Please go away unless you have some quote from someone much wiser than I.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: pdq
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 09:31 PM

The Shambles crusade against 'the machine' is great theatre, much enjoyed by some of us, but maybe it should be taken some place else. This thread already contains some quotation gems and will likely receive many more.

If all of The Shambles' threads have been closed by Joe Offal, open a new one. The "Gallery of Mudcat Quotations" is too good to deserve this treatment.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 02:02 AM

>Snip<

Every totalitarian regime has started with the removal of some civil rights "for the protection of the public" from a perceived, or a manufactured threat.

In each case the public has eventually been in need of protection from the regime itself.

Is this the way forward? I don't believe it is.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 09:59 AM

"It is kinda silly to place responsibility for your own happiness on some mystic chain of categories in the universe; you get the categories you make for yourself."

moi


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: GUEST,Giok
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 10:42 AM

I vote that this thread is purged of all irrelevant to the title postings, mine included, it is being subverted by one man's paranoia.
G.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 10:46 AM

Well my friend Giok, I believe I'll add a quote of my own. :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hard-Working Ladies: Pampering Yourself?
From: WYSIWYG - PM
Date: 13 Nov 05 - 07:21 AM

Feeding trolls is a lot like shitting on the floor in the middle of a nice hot sauna. Sure, you can do it-- but do you feel right about it, later?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 06:09 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Blairs first defeat
From: Keith A of Hertford - PM
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 02:09 AM

>snip<
As for the judges, they are made unsackable to ensure their independence.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 06:44 AM

Roger, How many years will it take to sink in, that you have NO civil rights here. None of us do.

The only rights on Mudcat belong to Max.

Joe and the Clones have duties allocated by Max, which they are obviously performing to his satisfaction.

The rest of us are guests, and with the greatest respect, it ill behoves one who regularly subverts the threads of other people to complain about minor alterations to his own.

Don T.

P.S. Now cut and paste another of my comments out of context as usual.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 06:27 PM


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 02:14 PM

The thead that Amos refers to is the following Gallery of Mudcat Quotations.

As to the reasons why it was subject to imposed censorship and closed by some anonymous volunteer fellow poster - I will leave for you to judge.

It may have been because it was abused, by being used for a purpose for which it was not intended.


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 06:17 PM

It may have been because it was abused, by being used for a purpose for which it was not intended.

Is the anonymous fellow poster responsible for the unwelcome insertion of this editing comment into my post and possibly also the one responsible for the imposed closure of the original thread wishing to make their name known and be prepared stand by their comments and actions? Like everyone else is expected and are generally prepared to do?

It MAY have been subject to imposed closure for this reason - was it in fact subject to imposed closure for this reason and who was responsible for imposing this judgement?

There would seem to be little point in closing a thread that is simply a collection contributions that can still be found in their original threads.

As the purpose for which it was used until its imposed closure was its intended use for the placing of quotations that were of note. I am not sure how that can be any form of abuse - cause it to be relegated to the B/S and now anonymously subject to imposed closure..........Perhaps this can be explained to our forum?

    I reopened the thread and moved your comments here, Shambles. Feel free to quote anything you haven't quoted before. Please leave the other thread open for matters other than your ongoing discussion of Mudcat editorial policy.
    Thank you.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 06:44 PM

The earlier thread was closed, I presume because it had been adulterated by rampant egoism beyond all recognition.

Sham,

Please let us have this thread back, and take your battle elsewhere. This thread is for collectible, insightful, pithy, especially well-turned, humorous or enlightening bon mots by other Mudcatters.

IF you are contemplating posting something OTHER than those, please post it in a more appropriate thread.

Amos
    I moved this message and the rest of the Shambles discussion over here, and reopened the thread.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Nov 05 - 11:50 PM

Amos, you trolled him into it, and now it's done.... next time, keep your whole mind on Barky's point, and not on winning your own point.

~S~


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 01:48 AM

Rather good point Susan.

For as Amos decided to open this thread with a personal judgement of his fellow posters - and I am not sure if was indeed rampant egoism that caused our anonymous fellow poster to close the original thread - it is possibly not really very reasonable of Amos to expect other contributors to this thread not to follow the example that he has set.


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 01:50 AM

I now note that Amos's opening judgement has been censored. And Susan's post to which I was replying has been deleted!
No, it was moved here to continue the ongoing discussion. Some things were moved, but nothing was deleted.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 02:00 AM

Joe please leave my posts alone and get a life?

If you had not imposed closure on the original thread Amos would have not needed to open a new one - you would have had no need to censor it and you would not have been forced to open this one again.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 02:06 AM

Dear Roger,
As I understand it, most people don't want you cluttering up yet another thread with your anti-censorship campaign. Post what you want in this thread, and stay out of the other one.
Be happy that you're tolerated as much as you are.
Thank you.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 04:21 AM

Shambles you are a :-
Self obsessed, self interested, self important, supercilious, pompous priggish, paranoid, prat. Deluded, devoid of humour, dreadfully boring and disgustingly repetetive.
No need to reply.
G.


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Subject: RE: More Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 05:15 AM

Does this qualify for a 'collectible, insightful, pithy, especially well-turned, humorous or enlightening bon mot by another Mudcatter?


Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 04:21 AM

Shambles you are a :-
Self obsessed, self interested, self important, supercilious, pompous priggish, paranoid, prat. Deluded, devoid of humour, dreadfully boring and disgustingly repetetive.
No need to reply.
G.
Moved from other non-Shambles-centric thread. --JC


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 05:30 AM

But he will Giok, HE WILL...........Yawn.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Amos
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 09:49 AM

Noteworthy Mudcat Quotations.

Thanks, Joe. Appreciated.

A


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: Peace
Date: 24 Nov 05 - 10:19 AM

Shambles, if you do drugs, stop. If you don't, start.


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 03:37 AM


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Subject: RE: Gallery of Mudcat Quotations
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 03:35 PM

Subject: RE: BS: I feel like a moan..listen pls ?
From: John 'Giok' MacKenzie - PM
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 03:33 PM

Looks like you're only going to find sympathy in the dictionary, between shit and syphilis!

G.


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