Is Joan Baez a fraud?

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Mar 02 - 07:42 PM

Making a lot of money doing creative art is a tricky business. It requires talent, strong focus on your work, perfect timing, lots of persistence, good looks (usually, but not always), youth (very helpful in most cases), and a whole bunch of other such variables...such as help from key people already established in your chosen field.

The price you pay, if you manage to do it, is that some people who haven't managed to do it will call you a fraud. Also, you lose your privacy. Joan has done it far more graciously than many, that's for sure.

Thanks for the info about her site!

- LH

Subject: RE: Joan Baez "Pretentious"?
From: GUEST,Alex
Date: 17 Mar 02 - 10:07 PM

I wanted to respond to the comment made that Joan always seemed "pretentious." I have met a number of famous people in the past few years and NONE was more real, genuine and giving than Joan Baez.

I do not really care to post the entire story of my befriending her on this list, but anyone who wishes to know more may email me. Let it stand to say that Joan Baez has never presented herself as anything other than what she was/is (unlike some other celebrities that I have met).

Alex [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: GUEST,Donna
Date: 21 Mar 02 - 10:45 AM

Is Joan Baez a fraud? No, I'm pretty positive Joan Baez is Joan Baez. How is she as a performer and singer? I saw her at the Atlanta concert Friday night. Amazing! Voice strong, a little deeper, beautiful and absolutely mesmerizing, delivery outstanding. And as is the norm for her, showcasing the new talent with her. Enjoying herself, and entertaining us. Sincere and humble, bowing to us and telling us, "I'd rather have you than the grammy." She could have "sold out" years ago, and got that grammy, you know. Did she marry David to further her career? I wouldn't think so. Her career was pretty up there then. It may have brought more focus to David's situation ... but is that why they married? I heard somewhere that they married because they were in love. Ever hear her self-penned song, "Recently"? Anyway, I heard about this thread on the Joan Baez Listserv ... I enjoyed reading all the replies. Very interesting takes. Think I'll explore your site a little. Nice.

Donna

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Mar 02 - 12:13 PM

They obviously married because they had a lot in common at the time, and had a good rapport, and they were in love. To say she married anyone to further her career is laughable, but people will say anything. People like to gossip.

She thought about marrying Bob Dylan once (albeit only briefly)...imagine the fuss that that no doubt short-lived experiment would have caused, and be thankful she married David instead.

- LH

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 21 Mar 02 - 01:10 PM

No one's mentioned that Joan's first couple of albums were recently reissued by Vanguard--a lot of the "Very Early Joan" stuff, with extra tracks etc. They are great albums if you love old traditional ballads. I also didn't like Joan's music for many years. But I love these!

I'm in agreement with the comments about "Begrudgery." Those who call her a fraud wish they could be frauds too!

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: GUEST,Luke
Date: 22 Mar 02 - 01:10 PM

Is John your real name? I know a John that's not so up on Joan. Guess the responses here blew the questions out yer chimney. Any more brilliant ideas?

Luke

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From:
Date: 25 Mar 02 - 12:51 PM

Joan's activism to make this a better world, her compassion, kindness has proven time and again she is NOT a fraud. She possesses the voice of an angel and I just idolize her.

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: GUEST,ruben remus
Date: 26 Mar 02 - 02:30 AM

i smoked a joint with joanie in 1976. she was very gracious. heck, it was her grass! there was nothing fraudulent about her in those days, but I haven't seen here in years.

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: GUEST,T. Montgomery
Date: 27 Mar 02 - 04:28 PM

Nonsense! Joan Baez does NOT get high! Does she?

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: GUEST,ruben remus
Date: 30 Mar 02 - 03:34 AM

Are you kidding? Joanie could smoke Tommy Chong under the table. Trust me on that.

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Mar 02 - 04:01 PM

Don't think so,Reuben. She wrote that she tried it once to please her husband, and went into a panic attack and didn't like it.

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Mar 02 - 06:25 PM

NO. ok? Period.

Subject: RE: Is Joan Baez a fraud?
From: GUEST,Diane Stack
Date: 01 Apr 02 - 09:19 PM

Ding Dong! The thread is dead! Mercifully.