Subject: Index: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: Joe Offer Date: 06 Dec 00 - 12:39 AM This is MMario's thread. He started it and did most of the work. I thought it might be a good idea to grace his thread with an index at the top. Amazon says this book is still in print, and available in paperback for $19.95. I'll betcha it's available at the store at Mystic Seaport, and you could buy Stan Hugill's Shanties from the Seven Seas ($13.97 at Amazon) at the same time. Apparently, Amazon and Mystic they don't have Boxing the Compass, the renamed new edition of Roy Palmer's Oxford Book of Sea Songs. -Joe Offer- Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman William Main Doerflinger (1909-2000) Originally published in 1951 as Shantymen and Shantyboys Second printing, retitled Songs of the Sailor and Lumbermen, 1972. Revised with additions, 1990 Alabama, The Anchor’s Aweigh, The A-Roving As I Went A-Walking Down Ratcliffe Highway Banks of Newfoundland, The Banks of the Gaspereaux, The Banks of the Roses, The Beware of Larry Gorman Big Five-Gallon Jar, The Blow, Boys, Blow Blow the Man Down Bold Manning Bold McCarthy (The City of Baltimore) Bold Princess Royal, The Boney Bound Down to Newfoundland Boys of the Island, The Burns and His Highland Mary Burns’s Log Camp Byrontown Call John the Boatman Campañero, The Canso Strait Can’t They Dance the Polka! Charles Gustavus Anderson City of Baltimore, The Coast of Peru, The Come All You Bold Canadians Come Down, You Bunch of Roses, Come Down Corbitt’s Barkentine Cumberland’s Crew, The Dark-Eyed Sailor, The Donzella and the Ceylon, The Dreadnought, The Drowsy Sleeper, The (Who’s That at My Bedroom Window?) Drunken Sailor, The Duffy’s Hotel Dying Soldier, The Early in the Morning (The Drunken Sailor) Ebenezer, The Famous Light Brigade, The Female Warrior, The First of the Emigrants, The Flat River Girl, The (Jack Haggerty) Flying Cloud, The Flying Dutchman, The Gale of August, ‘27, The George Whalen (Whalen’s Fate) Ghostly Crew, The Gimme de Banjo Gull Decoy, The Hanging Johnny Harry Dunne Haul Away, Joe Haul on the Bowline Heave Away Hello, Somebody Highland Laddie History of Prince Edward Island, The Homeward Bound Huckleberry Hunting I Am a Wild Young Irish Boy I’m a Decent Boy from Ireland In Measure Time We’ll Row Irish Girl’s Lament Jack Haggerty Jack Tar Ja, Ja, Ja! Jam on Gerry’s Rock, The Jealous Lover, The Jean François (Boney) John Brown’s Body John Dameray Johnny Boker Johnny Walk Along to Hilo Jolly Young Sailor and the Beautiful Queen, The Lady Franklin’s Lament Lady of the Lake, The Leave Her, Johnny (Time for Us to Leave Her) Leaving of Liverpool, The Let Go the Reef Tackle Light on Cape May, The Little Golden Ring, The Long Time Ago, A Loss of the Cedar Grove, The Loss of the Druid, The Loss of the Ramillies, The (The Ship Rambolee) Lowlands Lumber Camp Song, The Lumberman’s Alphabet, The Maid I Left Behind, The Maids of Simcoe, The Mainsail Haul Mary on the Silvery Tide McCullam Camp (The Winter of ‘73) McKinley Brook Messenger Song, The Millman Song, The Mouth of the Tobique, The Nightingale, The, Ocean Burial, The, Off to Sea Once More Old Oak Tree, The Our Jack’s Come Home Today Paddy Doyle Paddy, Get Back Paddy West Paisley Officer, The Perigoo’s Horse Peter Emberley Plain Golden Band, The Poor Old Man Red Light Saloon, The Reuben Ranzo Rio Grande Rise Me Up from Down Below Roll, Julia, Roll Roll the Cotton Down Rolling Home Row, Bullies, Row (Roll, Julia, Roll) Rufus’s Mare Sacramento Sailor Boy, The Sailor’s Grace, The Sailor’s Grave, The Sailor’s Way, The Sally Brown Sally Monroe Santy Anna Schooner Blizzard, The Schooner Kandahar, The Scow on Cowden Shore, The Shallo Brown Shantyboys’ Song, The Shantyman’s Life, A Shenandoah Ship Rambolee, The Silk Merchant’s Daughter, The So Handy Soldier and the Sailor, The South Australia Southerly Wind Spring Trip of the Schooner Ambition, The Stately Southerner, The Stormalong Susiana Swansea Town They All Love Jack Time for Us to Leave Her Tom Dixon Tomah Stream Tommy’s Gone to Hilo Trip to the Grand Banks, A Two Lovers Discoursing We’ll Have Another Drink Before the Boat Shoves Off We’ll Roll the Golden Chariot Along Were You Ever in Dumbarton? Wexford Girl, The, Whalen’s Fate When Johnson’s Ale Was New Whiskey, Johnny Who’s That at My Bedroom Window? Wife of Kelso, The Wily Auld Cane, The (The Wife of Kelso) Winter of ‘73, The Young Billy Crane Young Forbest |
Subject: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: MMario Date: 22 May 02 - 02:42 PM PAGE TITLE |
Subject: Lyr Add: JOHN DAMERAY From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 11:34 AM JOHN DAMERAY (learned at sea (1880's) by Nathaniel Silsbee) (tune set from his singing by niece, Mrs. George C. Beach) (Doerflinger:Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman - pp 7-8) Aloft we all must go-oh, [John come down the backstay] In hail and frost and snow-oh, [John come down the backstay, John Dameray!] John Dameray - John come down the backstay John Dameray - John come down the backstay John Demeray! John Dameray - John come down the backstay John Dameray - John come down the backstay John Demeray! My Ma she wrote to me, "My son, come home from seas" Got no manay and no clo'es Am knocking out of doors. My home I soo will be in, And then we'll have some gin. From sea I will keep clear, And live by selling beer. Doerflinger refers to this as a "fine deep-water tune". |
Subject: Tune Add: JOHN DAMERAY From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 12:19 PM tune in songwright: N-John Dameray C- A- T- S-100 K-Eb B-4/4 F-Doerflinger H- M-4R-3 R-8 E-8 E-5 E-8 E-4 E-4 D-2 B-2 E-5 E-8 E-4 E-4 L-A-loft we all must go-oh,John come down the H- M-4D-4 F-2 B-4 B-5 D-8 F-4 a-4 G-2 E-2 E-5 E-8 E-4 E-4 L- back-stay, In hail and frost and snow-oh John come down the H- M-4G-4 b-2_G-4 E-2 G-5 a-8 b-1 E-2 G-5 a-8 L-back-stay, John Dam-e-ray John Dam-e- H- M-4b-3_G-4 F-5 F-8 F-4 F-4 D-4 B-3 D-2 F-4 G-4 L-ray. John come down the back-stay. John Dam-e- H- M-4a-3_F-4 E-5 E-8 E-4 E-4 G-4 b-3 E-2 G-5 a-8 L-ray. John come down the back-stay. John Dam-e- H- M-2b-2_e-5 r-8 E-2 G-5 a-8 L-ray. John Dam-e- H- M-4b-3_G-4 F-5 F-8 F-4 F-4 D-4 B-3 D-2 F-4 G-4 L-ray. John come down the back-stay. John Dam-e- H- M-4a-3_F-4 E-5 E-8 E-4 E-4 G-4 b-3 E-2 G-5 a-8 L-ray. John come down the back-stay. John Dam-e- H- M-1b-2_e-5 r-8 L-ray. |
Subject: Lyr Add: SO HANDY From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 12:28 PM SO HANDY (from the singing of Richard Maitland) (Doerflinger - Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman - p12) (Halyard shanty) Handy high and handy low, [Handy me boys, so handy] Oh, it's handy haigh and away we'll go, [Handy, me boys, so handy!] You've got your advance and to sea you must go A-round Cape Horn through frost and snow Growl you may, but go you must. Just growl too much and your head they'll bust Now, up aloft from down below, Up aloft that yard must go. Now, one more pull and we'll show her clew! Oh, we're the boys that'll put her thourgh, With a bully ship and a bully crew, And a bully Old Man to drive her through! We're bound away around Cape Horn, And we'll get there as sure as you're born! Now one more pull and that will do! Oh, We're the gang that'll shove her through. Now, here we are at sea again; Two months' advance we're up against. We're the gang that can do it again! Oh, we're the boys that'll do it once more. |
Subject: Tune Add: SO HANDY From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 12:51 PM N-So Handy C- A- T- S-100 K-F B-6/8 F-Doerflinger - Halyard Shanty H- M-5R-2 R-8 C-8 F-8_F-8 C-8 F-8_F-8 G-8 a-8_a-8 a-8 a-5 a-8 a-8 a-8 F-4 G-8 a-4 c-8_c-8 c-8 c-8 L-() Hand-y high and hand-y low, Hand-y me boys, so hand-y oh, it's H- M-4d-4 c-8 b-4 a-0 a-0 G-4 G-8 E-5 G-8 G-8 G-8 E-4 C-8 G-5 G-4 R-8 L-hand-y high and a-way we'll go, Hand-y, me boys, so hand-y! |
Subject: Lyr Add: POOR OLD MAN From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 01:12 PM POOR OLD MAN (from the singing of Richard Maitland) (Doerflinger - Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman - p 14) As I walked out up-on the road one day, [for they say so, and they know so,] I saw 'n old man with a load of hay, [Oh, poor old man!] Says I, old man, your horse is lame, Says I, Old man that horse will die Now if he dies he'll be my loss And if he lives he'll be my horse. And if he dies I'll tan his skin If he live I'll ride him again Round Cape Horn through frost and snow, Round Cape Horn I had to go. Growl you may, but go you must If you growl too loud your head they'll bust. |
Subject: Tune Add: POOR OLD MAN From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 01:50 PM N-Poor Old Man C- A- T- S-76 K-Ab B-4/4 F-Doerflinger H- M-4R-3 R-0 E-0 E-9 E-0 F-9 F-0 a-4 b-8_c-8 c-4 c-4 b-4 a-9 b-0 c-4 b-2 a-9 b-0 L-As I walked out up-on the road one day; For they say so, and they H- M-4c-4 b-2 e-4 E-9 E-0 F-4 a-4 d-9 d-0 c-4 c-8_b-8 a-4 d-4 c-2 b-2 L-know so, I saw 'n old man with a load of hay, Oh poor old H- M-1a-3 R-4 L-man! |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE SAILOR'S GRACE / BLOW THE MAN DOWN From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 02:26 PM THE SAILOR'S GRACE (Doerflinger - 'Blow the Man Down - V' - p 21) Old Horse, Old horse, what brought you here, [Way, hay, blow the man down,] After ploughing the turf for many a year; [Gimme some time to blow the man down!] With kicks and cuffs and sad abuse, We're salted down for sailor's use. Between the mainmast and the pump, We're salted down in great big hunks. And when the mate comes from the rudder He takes a piece of this old blubber. |
Subject: Lyr Add; THE THREE CROWS From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 02:29 PM THE THREE CROWS (Doerflinger - 'Blow The Man Down - IV) There were three crows sat on a tree, (Way, hay, blow the man down,] And they was black as black could be, [Gimme some time to blow the man down!] Says one old crow unto his mate, where shall we go for somethin' to ate? There is an old horse on yonder hill, and there we can go and eat our fill. There is an old horse on yonder m ound. We'll light upon to his jsw-bone Says one old crow unto the other, we'll pick his eyes out one by one. |
Subject: Lyr Add: COME DOWN, YOU BUNCH OF ROSES, COME DOWN From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 02:44 PM COME DOWN, YOU BUNCH OF ROSES, COME DOWN (preserved by Nathaniel Silsbee) (Doerflinger - Songs of the Sailor and the Lumberman - p 22) Oh, yes, my lads, we'll roll a-lee, [come down, you bunch of roses, come down] We'll soon be far a-way from sea, [come down, you bunch of roses, come down] Oh, you pinks and poses, Come down, you bunch of roses, come down Oh, you pinks and poses, Come down, you bunch of roses, come down Oh, what do yer s'pose we had for supper? Black-eyed beans and bread and butter. Oh Poll's in the garden picking peas. she's got fine hair way down to ker knewws. I went downstairs and peeked throug a crack And saw her staling a kiss from Jack. I grabbed right hold of a piece of plank and ran out quick and gave her a spank. |
Subject: Tune Add: COME DOWN, YOU BUNCH OF ROSES, COME DOWN From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 02:57 PM N-Come Down, You Bunch of Roses, Come Down C- A- T- S-100 K-Eb B-4/4 F-Doerflinger, after Silsbee H- M-4R-3 C-4 B-4 D-4 F-4 G-4 a-4 F-4 b-2 E-4 E-2 C-4 L-Oh, yes, my lads, we'll roll a-lee, Come down, you H- M-4B-4 C-4 D-4 B-4 E-4 E-2 C-4 B-4 D-4 F-4 G-4 a-4 F-4 b-2 L-bunch of ros-es, come down, We'll soon be far a-way from sea, H- M-4E-4 E-2 C-4 B-4 C-4 D-4 B-4 E-4 E-2 R-4 b-3 a-4 L-come down, you bunch of ros-es, come down. Oh, you pinks and pos-es H- M-4G-4 G-4 a-4 G-4 E-4 E-2 C-4 B-4 C-4 D-4 B-4 E-4 E-2 R-4 L-Come down, you bunch of ros-es, come down. Oh, you H- M-4b-3 a-4 G-4 G-4 a-4 G-4 E-4 E-2 C-4 B-4 C-4 D-4 B-4 L-pinks and pos-es, come down, you bunch of ros-es, H- M-1E-4 E-2 R-4 L-come down. |
Subject: Lyr Add: REUBEN RANZO (I) From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 03:27 PM REUBEN RANZO(I) (From the singing of Richard Maitland) (Doerflinger - songs of the Sailor and Lumberman - pp 23-24) Oh, poor old Reuben Ranzo, [Ranso boys, Ran-zo!] Oh Ranzo was no sail-or [Ranzo, boys, Ran-zo!] But he was a Boston tailor, He went on a visit to new Bedford. He was shanghaied on a whaler He could not do his duty. So they put him to holystonnign, they took him to the gangway, They tied him on the grating, and they gave him five and forty. the captain's youngest daughter begged her father for mercy. the captain loved his daughter, and he heeded her cries for mercy. he put Ranzo in the cabin, And taught him navigation. Ranzo married his daughter, And now he's skipper of a whaler, and he's got a little Ranzo! And he's got a little Ranzo! |
Subject: Tune Add: REUBEN RANZO (I) From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 04:12 PM N-Reuben Ranzo (I) C- A- T- S-88 K-F B-4/4 F-Doerflinger - after Richard Maitland H- M-4R-3 G-8_a-8 b-4 c-4 b-4 a-4 G-2 a-4 R-4 G-4 G-4 G-2 L-Oh, poor old Reu-ben Ran-zo, Ran-zo boys, H- M-4a-4 G-2 G-8_a-8 b-4 c-8_c-8 b-8_b-8 a-8_a-8 F-2 C-4 R-4 F-4 a-8_c-8 c-5_c-8 L-Ran-zo! Oh, Ran-zo was no sail-or, Ran-zo boys, H- M-1G-4 F-4 R-2 L-Ran-zo! |
Subject: RE: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: Charley Noble Date: 17 Dec 02 - 04:23 PM Nice work! Charley Noble |
Subject: Lyr Add: REUBEN RANZO (2) From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 04:26 PM REUBEN RANZO (2) (after the singing of Capt. Patrick Tayleur) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' - pp24-25) Note: Each solo line repeats (except verse 14). if there is a variation it is shown in parens. Bold text is a shout. Pattern as in first verse. Oh, pore old rov-ing ran-zo, HAY [Ran-zo, boys, a-Ran-zo] Oh, pore old Rov-ing Ran-zo [Ran-zo boys, a-Ran-zo!] Now, Ranzo he was (Aw, Ranzo was) no sailor. So pore old Roving Ranzo, Now (So) they shipped him on board of a whaler. Now the captain he liked Ranzo. So the captain he taught him how to read and write. He taught him navigation. when he got his first mate's papers, He became a terror to whalers! He was known all over the world as As the worst old bastard on the seas! He would take his ship to Georgiay. And there he'd (he would) drag for sperm whale. He lost the only ship he had His first and last and only ship Was the 'Morgan', and she's known everywhere. Now (oh), he's gone to hell and we're all glad! Now, I've told you he was no sailor. He was a New York tailor. Whether (oh, whether) a toailor or a sailor He sure became a Ranzo! |
Subject: RE: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: MMario Date: 17 Dec 02 - 04:26 PM it's just copywork. Doerflinger and those *he* transcribed from have done all the work. |
Subject: RE: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: raredance Date: 18 Dec 02 - 01:19 AM "Copywork" or otherwise, it's a nice bunch of adds. rich r |
Subject: RE: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: Mr Red Date: 18 Dec 02 - 09:06 AM got the 1980's reprint - very useful. |
Subject: Lyr Add: HANGING JOHNNY From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 03:23 PM HANGING JOHNNY (from the Singing of Richard Maitland) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' p 31) Now they call me Hang-ing John-ny [A-way, ay-ay,] Oh, they say I hang for mon-ey [Hang, boys, hang!] They say I hung my dad-dy [Hoo-way, ay-ay,] Oh they say I've hung my mam-my, [hang, boys, hang!] I hung my sister Sally, Now they say I 've hung the fam'ly Oh, we'll hand , and hang together, And we'll hang for better weather. Now, get around the Corner Sally Oh, we'll make you, Saccarappa! Note: In the music the for this the refrain after the first line is given as "A-way ( or Hoo-way) ay-ay". In the text of the verses the refrain is given as "hooway-ay hay hay" and "hooway-ay hay ay" Which primarily means (I would guess) that it varies a lot. Two major variations of the music are given - set to verse one and two. |
Subject: Lyr Add: ROLL THE COTTON DOWN From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 03:24 PM ROLL THE COTTON DOWN (1) (from the singing of John O'Brien) (doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' p 33 Oh, roll the cot-ton, roll me, boys, [Roll the cot-ton down] Oh, roll the cot-ton, roll me, boys, [Oh roll the cot-ton down] 2.When I was young and in my prime. 3. I thought I'd jine the Black Ball Line. |
Subject: Lyr Add: ROLL THE COTTON DOWN (2) From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 03:25 PM ROLL THE COTTON DOWN (2) (from the singing of Richard Maitland) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' pp 33-34) (to the tune of 'A Long time Ago') Down in Alabama I was born [Roll the cotton down] Way done in Alabama I was born [And I rolled the Cotton Down] When I was young and in my prime [Oh, roll the cotton down;] I thought I'd go and join the Line [And roll the cotton down] And as a sailor caught a shine; [roll the cotton down] I shipped on board of the Black Ball Line; [and roll the cotton down] Now the Black Ball Line is the line for me; [roll the cotton down] That's when you want to go on a spree [And roll the cotton down] In the Black Ball Line you can cut a big shine; [oh, roll the cotton down:] For there you'll wake at any old time, [And roll the cotton down] Now see the Black baller prepareing for sea; [then roll the cotton down] You'll split your side luaghing, the sights to see, [and roll the cotton down] There's tinkers and tailors, shoemakers and all, [Roll the cotton down] They're all shanghaied on board the Black Ball [And roll the cotton down] |
Subject: Lyr Add: ROLL THE COTTON DOWN (3) From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 03:26 PM ROLL THE COTTON DOWN (3) (from the singing of Richard Maitland) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' - p 34) Way down South where I was born [Roll the cotton down:] I worked in the cotton and the corn, [Oh, roll the cotton down.] When i was young and in my prime, I thought I'd go and join the Line, And for a sailor caught a shine, I joined on a ship of the Swallowtail Line. (no tune specified) |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE ALABAMA (1) From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 03:28 PM THE ALABAMA (1) (from the singing of Richard Maitland) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' - pp 35-36) When the Al-a-bam-a's keel was laid [Roll, Al-a-bam-a, Roll!] They laid her keel in Birk-en-head, [Oh, Roll, Al-a-bam-a, Roll!] Oh, she was built at Birkenhead, she was built in the yard of Jonathan Laird. And down the Mersey she rolled away, And Britain supplied her with men and guns And she sailed away in search of a prize, And when she came to the port of Cherbourg, It was there she met with the little Kearsarge. It was there she met the Ke-arsarge. It was off Cherbourg harbor in April, '65, That the Alabama went to a timely grave. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE ALABAMA (2) From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 03:29 PM THE ALABAMA (2) (from the singing of Richard Maitland) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' -pp36-37) In eighteen hundred and sixty-one, [Roll Alabama, roll!] The Alabama's keel was laid, [And roll, Alabama, roll!] Twas laid in the yard of Jonathan Laird At the town of Birkenhead At first she was called the 'Two Ninety two' For the merchants of the city of Liverpool Put up the money to build the ship, In the hopes of driving the commerce from the sea. Down the Mersey she sailed one day To the port of Fayal in the Western Isles. There she refitted with men and guns, and sailed across the Western Sea, With orders to sink, burn and destroy all ships belonging to the North. Till one day in the harbor of Cherbourg she laid, And the little Kearsarge was waiting there. and the Kearsarge with Winslow was waiting there, And Winslow challenged them to fight at sea. Outside the three mile limit they fought (repeat) Till a shot from the forward pivot that day Took the Alabama's steering gear away And at the Kearsarge's mercy she lay And Semmes escaped on a British yacht. |
Subject: Lyr Add: A LONG TIME AGO (1) From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 03:36 PM A LONG TIME AGO (1) (from the singing of William Laurie) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman p 37-38) A-way dowen South in Old Ten-nes-see, [Way, hay,hay, yah] A-way down south in old Ten-nes-see, [oh, a long time a-go] It is a long time, a ver-y long time A long time, a ver-y long time Since my young lady has written to me, (twice) Saying, willie dear, come home from sea (twice) It is a long time, a very long time, Oh, a long time, a very long time If ever I get my foot on the shore (twice) Oh I will go to sea no more! Oh I will go to the sea no more! If ever I get my foot on the land, (twice) I will be some lady's fancy man! Oh, I will be some lady's fancy man! It is a long time, a very long time It's a long time, a very long time. |
Subject: Lyr Add: A LONG TIME AGO (2) From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 03:37 PM A LONG TIME AGO (2) (James H. Williams MS) (Doerflinger - 'Sings of the Sailor and Lumberman' p 38) Away down Soouth where I was born, [To me way, hay, hay, yah!] Among the fields of cane and corn, [A long time ago.] I wish to God I had never been born To go rambling round and round Cape Horn Around Cape Horn where wild winds blow Around Cape Horn thorugh frost and snow The wind from the sou'west a-blowing a gale, The packet ship she's crowding sail. The monkey dressed in the sojer's clo'es, but where he come from God on'y knows! Oh, bully John from Baltimore, I knew you well on the Eastern Shore. Oh, bully John, I knew him well, But now he'd dead and gone to hell. Tis a long, long time and a very long time, Tis a long time since I made this rhyme |
Subject: Lyr Add: A LONG TIME AGO (3) From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 03:37 PM A LONG TIME AGO (3) (From the singing of Richard Maitland) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' p39) When I was young and in my prime, [to me way-ay-ay yah,] I thought I'd go and join the line, [Oh a long time a-go.] And as a sailor caught a shine In a lot they called the Black Ball Line Now come all you young fellers that's going to sea, And just listen a while unto me. I'll sing you a song and I won't keep you long. It's all about the Black Ball Line Just see the Black Ballers preparing for sea You'd split your sides laughing the sights you would see there's tinkers 'n' tailors, shoemakers 'n' all, For they're all shipped as sailors on board a Black Ball. Now, one more pull and we'll let her go We'll h'ist her up through frost and snow Just one more pull and we'll show her clew, And another long pull and that will do. additional verses: Around Cape Horn you've got to go; That's the way to Callao In the Black Ball Line I served my time I sailed in the Webb of the Black Ball Line. |
Subject: Tune Add: THE ALABAMA From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 04:09 PM N-The Alabama (1) C- A- T- S-100 K-A B-4/4 F- H- M-4R-3 c-9 b-0 a-4 E-4 C-4 E-9_E-0 a-5 F-8 G-2 b-4 b-9 b-0 b-8 c-5 L-When the Al-a-bam-a's keel was laid, Roll, al-a-bam-a, H- M-4b-3 c-9_c-0 a-4 E-4 E-9_E-0 C-4 E-9_E-0 a-9_a-0 b-4 c-4 d-4 c-4 c-9 a-0 b-8 e-4 L-roll! They laid her keel in Birk-en-head, oh Roll, Al-a-bam-a H- M-1a-3 R-4 L-roll! |
Subject: Tune Add: HANGING JOHNNY From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 04:24 PM N-Hanging Johnny C- A- T- S-58 K-A B-6/8 F- H- M-5R-2 R-8 E-0 F-0 G-4 E-8 F-4 E-8 G-0 b-0_b-8 e-8_e-4_d-8 c-5_c-8_b-8 c-8 b-4 R-8 c-4 c-8 L-Now they call me Hang-ing John-ny. A-way ay-ay, Oh, they H- M-5c-4 b-8 b-4 G-8 F-0 E-0_E-4_E-4 R-8 G-5 F-5 E-5_E-4 B-8 G-4 G-8 F-4 E-8 L-say I hang for mon-ey hang, boys, hang! They say I hung my H- M-5G-0 b-0_b-8 e-8_e-4_d-8 c-5_c-8_b-8 c-8 b-4 R-8 c-4 c-8 c-4 b-8 b-4 G-8 F-0 E-0_E-4_E-4 R-8 L-dad-dy, Hoo-way, ay, ay, oh they say I've hung my mam-my H- M-2G-5 F-5 E-5_E-4 R-8 L-Hang, boys, Hang! |
Subject: Tune Add: REUBEN RANZO From: MMario Date: 18 Dec 02 - 04:37 PM N-Reuben Ranzo (2) C- A- T- S-69 K-A B-2/4 F- H- M-7R-4 b-8_b-8 G-8_G-8 b-4 a-4 G-8_G-8 F-5_E-8 G-4 R-4 F-4 F-4 F-5 E-8 L-Oh, pore old Rov-ing Ran-zo, Ran-zo boys, a- H- M-8G-4 F-4_F-8 R-8 E-8_F-8 F-5 G-8 F-8_E-8 C-4 E-5_D-8 B-2 E-4 G-4 b-5 a-8 L-Ran-zo! Oh, pore old Rov-ing Ran-zo, Ran-zo boys a- H- M-2G-8_F-8 E-4_E-4 R-4 L-Ran-zo! |
Subject: Tune Add: ROLL THE COTTON DOWN From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 09:08 AM N-Roll the Cotton Down (1) C- A- T- S-80 K-A B-4/4 F- H- M-4R-3 c-8_b-8 a-4 E-4 C-4 E-4 a-4 a-4 a-2 b-5 b-8 b-5 b-8 L-oh, roll the cot-ton, roll me, boys, Roll the cot-ton H- M-4b-3 d-4 c-4 E-4 F-4 E-4 a-4 b-4 c-4 d-4 c-5 a-8 b-9_e-9 G-8 L-Down; Oh, roll the cot-ton, roll me boys, Oh, roll the cot-ton H- M-1a-3 R-4 L-down. |
Subject: Tune Add: ROLL THE COTTON DOWN From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 09:18 AM N-Roll the Cotton Down (2) C- A- T- S-56 K-Ab B-6/8 F- H- M-5R-2 R-8 a-8 a-8_G-8 a-8 b-8_a-9 F-0 G-8 a-8 G-8 F-5 a-5 b-4 a-8 c-5 F-4 c-8 L-Down in Al-a-bam-a I was born, Roll the cot-ton down Way H- M-4d-8_e-8 d-8 c-8 b-8 a-8 F-8 G-8 a-8 b-4 c-0 d-0 c-5 b-8 a-9 b-0 a-5 R-5 L-down in al-a-bam-a I was born And I rolled the cot-ton down |
Subject: RE: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: Dead Horse Date: 19 Dec 02 - 09:48 AM These sound to me like exremely garbled and mixed up versions of not very well remembered lyrics, therefore are probably exactly what WAS sung aboard ship. The obvious mixture of several shanties, the repeating of single lines, non rhyming couplets, and the transposition of tunes, was a feature which is now sadly lacking in folk orientated "Shanty Singers". It seems to be the done thing to *clean up* these old songs untill they are of Concert Quality. I commend your efforts, dear sir. |
Subject: RE: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 10:04 AM just passing it forward... |
Subject: Tune Add: A LONG TIME AGO From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 10:42 AM Two main variations of this tune were given: Set to Verse one and verse two. N-A Long Time Ago (1) C- A- T- S-56 K-Ab B-6/8 F- H- M-5R-2 R-8 a-8 a-8_G-8 a-8 b-8_a-9 F-0 G-8 a-8 G-8 F-5 a-5 b-4_a-8 c-5 E-4 c-8 L-A-way down south in old ten-nes-see, Way, hay, hay, yah, a- H- M-5d-8_e-8 d-8 c-8_b-8 a-8 F-8 G-8 a-8 b-4 c-0 d-0 c-5 b-8_a-9 b-0 a-5 E-8 F-8 G-8 a-5 b-8_a-9 F-0 L-way down south in old ten-nes-see, oh, a long time a-go 2:It is a long time, a H- M-5a-8 a-8 G-8 F-5 a-5 b-4_a-8 c-5 E-4 c-8 d-8_e-8_d-8 c-8_b-8 a-8 F-9 G-0 a-8 b-4 c-0 d-0 L-ver-y long time, way, hay, hay, yah, A long time, a ver-y long time, oh, a H- M-2c-5 b-8_a-9 b-0 a-4 R-2 L-long time a-go |
Subject: Tune Add: A LONG TIME AGO From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 11:02 AM N-A Long Time Ago (3) C- A- T- S-100 K-F B-6/8 F- H- M-5R-2 R-8 C-0_C-0 F-8_F-8 a-8 G-8 c-4 F-8_E-8 D-8 E-4 C-0 C-0 F-5 G-4_F-8 a-5 C-4 G-0_a-0 L-When I was young and in my prime, To me way-ay-ay yah I H- M-4b-8_c-8 b-8 b-8_a-8 F-8 G-8_G-8 a-8 b-8 c-8 b-8 a-5 G-8_F-8 G-8 F-5 R-5 L-thought I'd go and join the line, oh a long time a-go |
Subject: Lyr Add: A LONG TIME AGO (4) From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 11:25 AM A LONG TIME AGO (4) (From the singing of Patrick Tayleur) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' pp40-41) Where there is a variation in the repeat of the line it is shown in parens Oh, a long, long time and a ver-y long time, [To me way, ha-ay, hay yah!] oh, a long, long time, and a ver-y long time [oh, a long time a-go] Old Noah, he built a Hark for to sail (to go) (Oh) Around the world and home again Now I wend down to the docks one morn for a ship There was an old wooden packet a-lyyin' there, So I wnet on board and sked for a job. Oh, it (she) must have been the old Ark that Noah built. Her hatch you had never saw nothing before! About thirty-six feet long and nowhere insured. Oh, her knees were so thick that you could not discern. It's a long, long time and a very long time Now this is the hatch (where)the animals must have gone down.(went down) The gangway it was built of timber six foot high I thought that I had struck an 'ome at last, Where I could make a pay-day and go Out to the western shores and away But I had (I had) made a mistake when I judged her that way, For at last, when we got out and to sea Her bow it was bluff and her counter was round Her fores'l would come to within about six points, Her fo'c'sle was low and her ppoop was so high That she looked just like a Dutch galley-old-yacht So it's a long, long time and a very long time Oh it's a long long time and a very long time |
Subject: Tune Add: A LONG TIME AGO From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 11:44 AM N-A Long Time Ago (4) C- A- T- S-100 K-F B-6/8 F- H- M-5R-2 C-8 C-8 F-4 a-8 F-8 F-8 G-8 F-8 E-8 F-8 C-4 D-0 E-0 F-5 G-4 F-0_G-0 a-5 C-4 a-0 a-0 L-Oh, a long, long time and a ver-y long time, To me way, ha-ay, hay, yah! Oh, a H- M-4b-4 c-8 a-8 a-8 G-8 F-8 E-8 D-8 C-8_E-8 b-0 b-0 a-5 G-8_F-8 G-8 F-5 R-5 L-long , long time, and a ver-y long time, oh, a long time a-go |
Subject: Lyr Add: A LONG TIME AGO From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 12:08 PM A LONG TIME AGO (From the singing of Patrick Tayluer) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' pp41-43) variations on the repeat of solo lines shown in parens - though according to the notes the second repeat often began with "Oh," - which is NOT shown... There was an old lady who lived in Dundee, [to me way, hay, hay, yah] There was an old lady who lived in Dundee, [oh a long time ago] Now her sons (they) grew up and they all went to sea One became mate and the other a sailor But the one that I'm going to tell you of, the story is: He joined a Hark bound out for the East And not as a sailor nor yet as a mate He joined as the master of that fine clipper ship Now, you all remember the ship that I mentioned. 'Twas the Catty Sark, (and) her name was so high Now (Oh) he took her out East and he lost his old ship (his whole trip) He took her out East as these words I have told you Out to Foochow and then home again Now, un'appily for him, he married out there A nice little girl with a long pigtail! Oh, she wore the trousers and he wore the shirt But when I can tell you the voyage 'e made 'ome. Now it's a long, long time and a very long time Oh a long, long time and a very long time One hundred and eight days, (oh)he did sail. And 'e used to look at 'is Chinese wife and say, If it 'adn't a been for your unluck on board! Now, a long, long time and a very long time. Now, I told you he was always a-growlin' at 'is wife, But when in London he did arrive, The owners they told him he had made a record voyage! So what did he do but he's blessed his young wife And instead of callin' her Mong Sallee He called her the sweet name of Mong Cutty Sark |
Subject: Lyr Add: A LONG TIME AGO (6) From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 12:32 PM A LONG TIME AGO (6) (from the singing of James P. Barker) (Doerflinger - Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman -p43) Then up a-loft this yard must go, [To me, way, ay, ay, yah,] Then up a-loft this yard must go, [For it's a long time a-go] I placed my hand upon her knee I think, young man, you're rather free! Then one more pull and that will do Oh, one more pull and then it's belay! |
Subject: RE: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: EBarnacle1 Date: 19 Dec 02 - 12:35 PM In A Long Time ago, "Galley old yacht" is almost certainly a mispronunciation of "Galliot" or "Galliot yacht," which was, even then, an archaic rigging style. |
Subject: Tune Add: A LONG TIME AGO From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 12:46 PM N-A Long Time Ago (6) C- A- T- S-103 K-G B-6/8 F- H- M-5R-2 R-8 D-8 G-4 b-8 a-4 F-8 G-8_F-8 E-8 D-4 E-0 F-0 G-5 a-5 b-5 D-4 b-8 L-The up a-loft this yard must go, To me way, ay, ay yah, then H- M-4c-4 a-8 d-4 d-8 D-4 D-8 G-4 c-0 c-0 b-5 a-8_G-8 a-8 G-5_G-4 R-8 L-up a-loft this yard must go, For it'sa long time a-go |
Subject: RE: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 12:47 PM yes - Doerflinger notes that "galley old yacht" is more properly Galliot |
Subject: Lyr Add: SHALLO BROWN From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 01:15 PM see also: Shallow Brown Shallow Brown 2 Origins:Shallow Brown Shalo Brown SHALLO BROWN (From the singing of Richard Maitland) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' p44 Shal-lo Brown, now what's the mat-ter? [Shal-lo, shal-lo Brown!] Oh, shal-lo Brown, what's the mat-ter? [Shal-lo, shal-lo Brown!] I'm going to leave you [Shal-lo Brown] Oh, I have left the wife and ba-by [Shal-lo, Shal-lo Brown!] The baby's in the cradle, [shal-lo, shal-lo brown] ... ... additonal verses The packet sails tomorrow, I'm leaving you in sorrow And the baby in the cradle My love I won't decieve you Two major variants of the verse - set to verse one and two |
Subject: Tune Add: SHALLO BROWN From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 01:45 PM N-SHALLO BROWN C- A- T- S-66 K-G B-3/4 F- H- M-5R-2 D-8 F-8 G-5 a-8 b-9 a-0 b-8 a-8_a-2 a-8 a-8_a-4 a-0 a-9 E-5 c-8 c-8 b-8 L-Shal-lo Brown, now what's the mat-ter? Shal-lo, Shal-lo Brown! Oh Shal-lo H- M-5a-5_F-8 F-9 E-0 E-8 D-8_D-2 G-8 G-8 G-4 G-0 G-9 D-2 F-4 G-9 a-0 b-8 a-8_a-4 L-Brown, what's the mat-ter? Shal-lo, shal-lo Brown! 2)I'm going to leave you, H- M-5a-8 a-8_a-2 a-5 c-8 c-8 b-8 a-5 F-8 F-9 E-0 E-8 D-8_D-2 G-8 G-8_G-4 G-0 G-9 L-Shal-lo Brown, Oh I have left the wife and ba-by Shal-lo, Shal-lo H- M-1D-2 R-4 L-Brown |
Subject: Lyr Add: GIMME DE BANJO From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 03:25 PM GIMME DE BANJO (From the singing of William Laurie) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman - p 45) Oh, dis is de day we pick on de ban-jo [Dance, gal, gom-me de ban-jo!] oh, dat ban-jo, dat tal-la-tal-la-wan-go oh dat ban-jo, dat se-ben-string ban-jo I was only one an' twenty Ah was sent to shcool fer to be a scholar! Nah cikkar was stuff, an Ah could not swaller. Oh, dere's mah book, down on de table An' you kin read it if you're able NOTE:Three variants are given for the verse |
Subject: Tune Add: GIMME DE BANJO From: MMario Date: 19 Dec 02 - 04:34 PM N-Gimme de Banjo C- A- T- S-84 K-Bb B-2/4 F- H-1: 2: M-8F-2 d-0 d-8 G-0 a-8 F-8 b-0 b-8 G-0 a-8 F-8 D-4 D-4 D-0 D-8 C-0 D-8 B-8 B-5 D-8 F-8 a&4 a-8 a&0 a-0 a-0 a-0 G-8 E-8 L-Oh, dis is de day we pick on de ban-jo, Dance, gal, gim-me de ban-jo! Oh, dat ban-jo dat tal-la-tal-la-wan-go, H- 3: M-7D-4 D-4 D-0 D-8 C-0 D-8 B-8 R-8 d-4 d-8 a-8 F-4 b-8 b-0 b-0 b-8 a-8 F-8 D-4 D-4 D-0 D-8 C-0 D-8 B-8 L-Dance, gal, gim-me de ban-jo! Oh, dat ban-jo dat se-ben-string ban-jo, Dance, gal, gim-me de ban-jo! |
Subject: Lyr Add: HELLO,SOMEBODY From: MMario Date: 20 Dec 02 - 09:05 AM HELLO,SOMEBODY (From the singing of James P. Barker - in the style of "Lemon" Curtis) (Doerflinger - 'Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman' - p46) [Hel-lo, some-bod-y, hel-lo!]* There's** Some-bod-y knock-ing at the gar-den gate; [Hel-lo Some-bod-y, hel-lo!] There's some-bod-y knocking at the gar-den gate; [Hel-lo Some-bod-y, hel-lo] Somebody wants to know my name It's Nigger Dick from New Brunswick |
Subject: RE: Songs of the Sailor and Lumberman From: MMario Date: 20 Dec 02 - 09:07 AM *phew* having problems posting... Notes: * - intro phrase for first verse only ** - note for "there's" silent in later verses, also sever 8th note pairs have single words in later verses. |
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