BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Wesley S
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 01:20 PM

"God grant me the Senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The good fortune to run into the ones I do, And the eyesight to tell the difference."

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:53 PM

"Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill because they really pissed me off."

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST,KB
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:46 PM

I thought it was a gas.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:33 PM

I thought it was hysterical...both times...

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 12:03 PM

It wasn't funny the first time Big Mick. Grow up!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 10:45 AM

It's easier to develop negative opinions of those who keep pushing his buttons, but I guess everybody needs something to inspire them.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 10:31 AM

seems apropos

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 09:03 AM

Shambles- I believe Jeri may have been defending you in a way so you should apologize.

Try using all the energy, time and thought that you put onto this board into something more constructive like world hunger, homelessness and world peace. Make a real difference in this world besides worrying about a moderated message board. Good grief man do something worthwhile!

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: The Shambles
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 07:49 AM

Right boys and girls, let's do just that. Let's not post here any more!

It's one thing to argue with someone who's capable of understanding you, but it's quite a different thing to continue to try to expect understanding and agreement from a person who only posts because it's part of his routine, and who can neither see nor care about the effects of his obsession.

Jeri - Does it really follow that the reason someone may not agree with you is because they are not capaple of understanding you? Have you ever considered the possibilty that you are wrong? Or the fact that it is not necessary to reach agreement or to gang-up and grind any who continue to disagree into the ground? Only to be seen to agree to disagree?

Posters have been encouraged to post and call me many things and many aspects of my mental health have been diagnosed. Many judgements of my worth have been made and the simple act of my continued posting on our forum, has been described in every negative enotive term possible- by people I have never even met.

But if all these assesments and speculations were true - So what?

As no one is being forced to read or respond - are not all posters entitled to be as boring and as tedious as they wish, on our forum?

Isn't it the truth that all this fuss - is the distraction and not the problem at all?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 05:53 AM

Right boys and girls, let's do just that. Let's not post here any more!
G

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: The Shambles
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 02:07 AM

Piffle

All I have even done is to continue to try to post my honest views to a discussion on a discussion form set up for that purpose on an issue that some would rather was rather not discussed. This to enable all posters to be seen to be having a fair shake.

It is those who judge this using emotive words like obsession to describe my posting (because they do not agree with my views) but by NOT such words to describe the many and varied attempts that are encouraged to be made to judge and prevent this who are now adding to the problem.

A problem that will only be made worse by a few posters (in hundreds of posts) being seen to encourage and support the imposition of more restrictions or managing to prevent one poster fron contributing to our forum at all.

The answer to anyone who is not interested in discussing this issue has always been simple - don't open the thread to read it and don't post and refresh the thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Jeri
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 07:35 PM

Guest, regarding Shambles not answering direct questions, I think it's part of the syndrome. I don't think he evades. I don't think he's capable of answering them, and no, I'm not trying to insult him or even argue. I think his inability to answer these questions, the memorization and repitition of phrases, the obsession with Joe and editing/moderation/whatever, and the inability to understand subtle clues about how serious Joe isn't when he says he doesn't like birthday threads or counting posts, are part of a syndrome. He doesn't understand what Max meant with his invitation to leave because Max is going to have to do something a lot less subtle for him to get it.   

I don't think he can stop, but I don't think some other people can either. And I may be wrong about the syndrome thing, but it doesn't matter. It's one thing to argue with someone who's capable of understanding you, but it's quite a different thing to continue to try to expect understanding and agreement from a person who only posts because it's part of his routine, and who can neither see nor care about the effects of his obsession.

It makes it easy for me not not get involved in discussions about editing. I see no logical evidence he's really trying to change anything, or even discuss the issue. Posting is just something he has to do. Depersonalizing Joe ("Chief of the...") and complaining about anyone with an edit button, whom he catches doing anything at all, is just his hobby.

The bottom line is that I don't think he can help it, and I can, and if he can't help it, it's harder to be angry at what he says.    It's easier to develop negative opinions of those who keep pushing his buttons, but I guess everybody needs something to inspire them.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 02:56 PM

A young man walks onto the stage of Stars in their Eyes, on crutches, with a plaster cast from his feet to his hips. Matthew Kelly introduces him as Simon.



"It's very brave of you to come out here," says Matthew.



"Please tell the audience what happened?"



"Well" replies Simon "about a year ago, I was driving with my uncle when we had a really bad accident. Unfortunately my uncle was killed outright but I survived. I was trapped in the car for six hours before I was eventually cut free."



"The doctors had me in surgery for 12 hours but they couldn't save my legs."



"That's terrible. But I see you have legs now. Are they artificial?" asks Matthew.



"No Matthew, while I was in hospital the doctors informed me that my uncle had in fact died, but that his legs were fine and with all the advances in medical science, they could graft the bottom half of his body onto mine. As you can see the operation was successful. I have been having physiotherapy for six months and hope to be walking fully again by the end of the year."



A huge round of applause erupts from the audience. Kelly responds with: "That's an unbelievable story. So tonight, who are you going to be?"



Read down



















You are really going to love this…………







































'Tonight, Matthew, I am going to be Simon and Halfuncle'

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 12:07 PM

For you Roger

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 11:17 AM

Some time ago - Wesley S came up with the following - it says more in a few lines than I can ever manage, in my long-winded way.

Grant our members and guests the serenity to accept the things they cannot change - the courage to change the things they can - and the wisdom to realise that this is a forum open to the public and that they have no control over the posts and ideas of others


Not posting to a thread

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Wesley S
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 10:20 AM

Maybe "just plain wrong" is too strong of a phrase. But it does obscure the serious discussion that many of us are trying to have on this most important of subjects. Get with the program please.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Wesley S
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 10:12 AM

Shambles - if you you have something to add to the subject under discussion in the thread - which is clearly indicated in its title - please do so. But to refresh it by adding links to joke pages is just plain wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 08:01 AM

Notice how Shambles can't answer my questions that actually deal with the thread? Sooooooooooo surprising.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: jeffp
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 06:47 AM

Chili Oil

*Ingredients:
2 cups olive oil
4 teaspoons dried crushed red pepper flakes

*Preparation:
Combine the oil and crushed red pepper flakes in a heavy small saucepan. Cook over low heat until a thermometer inserted into the oil registers 180 degrees F, about 5 minutes.

Remove from heat. Cool to room temperature, about 2 hours. Transfer the oil and pepper flakes to a 4-ounce bottle. Seal the lid. Refrigerate up to 1 month.




*Preparation Time: 2 min + 2 hours
*Yield: 2 cups

Subject: RE: musical traditions
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 02:17 AM

Wolfgang (more sad than amused by a completly unnecessary thread; at least in this form)

Now you have informed our forum of your judgement of what others post - why would you think our forum should care what your judgement of them is or even be interested in such a post?

If you don't like the thread - why take the time and trouble post to it and refresh a post that is not to your taste - just to say so and be seen to make some pedantic observation?

Why not simply ignore this thread or start one that is to your taste?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 02:06 AM

Second joke thread of 2006

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: number 6
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 11:26 PM

"A brain walks into a bar and says, "I'll have a pint of beer please." The barman looks at him and says "Sorry, I can't serve you." "Why not?" askes the brain. The barman replies "You're already out of your head."

Now that joke certainly deserves a Mudcat award ... of some sort.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Wesley S
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 05:21 PM

Nothing new to add just yet. But - I'm working on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 05:18 PM

Please come to the 85 billion thread if you want to give people shit. We all love it when people give us shit because it helps the thread grow and come closer to its goal of 85 billion posts. Stop being such friggin' wankers on this thread. Come to the 85 billion thread and be wankers there.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 05:14 PM

Shambles - You have an entire thread here where you hash the same crap over and over and over and you tell Wesley to add something new to it? Heed your advice buddy. How much time do you have on your hands that everyday you reply to this thread and search through past posts and threads and cut and paste like crazy to prove a point to the world that no one cares about. Do you ever go outside? Do you ever turn off your computer? Do you only get one channel on the internet and it's Mudcat???

Heal thyself!

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Wesley S
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 05:12 PM

Well Bill - Wouldn't you agree? I'd hate to refresh this thread if I had nothing new to say. If I was just going to rehash the same things over and over and over again it would be pretty much senseless. A waste of time. Repetative too. AND redundent.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 05:03 PM

who gets the honor?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 05:00 PM

lol, Wesley...I think you're onto something!

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Wesley S
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 04:47 PM

"Wesley S - if you you have something to add to the subject under discussion in the thread"

I'm guessing that the operative word is "add". What if I don't have anything new to say? What if I just want to rehash the same things over and over and over again? Then is it a good idea to refresh this thread?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:45 PM

A brain walks into a bar and says, "I'll have a pint of beer please." The barman looks at him and says "Sorry, I can't serve you." "Why not?" askes the brain. The barman replies "You're already out of your head."

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:29 PM

Huzzah! 1100 is fast approaching!

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: jeffp
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:22 PM

Trying to control others' posts again, Roger?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: The Shambles
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:16 PM

Isn't refreshing this thread a good thing?

Are you confused now and need someone to tell you what the current plan is?

Well it wasn't to be a good idea - then it was - then it was plan B....

Wesley S - if you you have something to add to the subject under discussion in the thread - which is clearly indicated in its title - then yes, it is generally judged to be a good thing to refresh any thread with your contribution.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Peace
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 03:15 PM

Shambles: Have a good day.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Wesley S
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 02:58 PM

Isn't refreshing this thread a good thing?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: The Shambles
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 02:55 PM

List of all joke threads

Where you will be able to place your own jokes and find plenty of others for you to grin about.

And where you won't have to see my posts or feel you have keep refreshing this thread only to moan about them.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 01:36 PM

as I read the rules, Shambles may post certain types of commentary ONLY on this thread...I saw nothing in the rules to prevent others from posting on this thread. A few jokes might dilute things a bit...*grin*


so, there were two goldfish in a bowl, and one says to the other, "Ok, smarty, if there's no God, who changes the water?"

Subject: RE: musical traditions
From: The Shambles
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 12:15 PM

thread name clarification

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: The Shambles
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 08:31 AM

At great risk of stating the obvious: The forum belongs to Max. There IS no 'our'.

The website that our forum is on may or may not still belong to Max. The view has always been encouraged that our forum is what all the contributors make it.

Perhaps those who do judge this to be our forum can take this issue up with the current Chief of the Mudcat Editing team?

[PM] Joe Offer BS: Censorship on Mudcat (1009* d) RE: BS: Censorship on Mudcat 31 Mar 05

Well, I have to agree with Shambles that Max seems to convey the idea that this is "our" forum. However, it also seems quite clear that very few of us want "our" forum to be taken over by those who would wish to make it a place of combat and chaos.

So, Max appointed some of us to try to keep down the worst of the nastiness. We don't do enough to satisfy some people (Clinton Hammond, for example), and we do too much to satisfy Shambles.

So, we continue to stumble along what we see as the middle path, knowing that we will never satisfy everybody. Such is life.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: The Shambles
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 02:22 AM

Jolly good jokes

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 10:22 PM

Are we at #2000 yet?

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 09:44 PM

The Shambles: Blah blah blah blah blah DAMN MODERATORS blah blah blah blah blah DAMN EDITORS blah blah blah blah blah blah blah DAMN EVERYONE blah blah blah blah blah TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah THIS IS WHATS REALLY WRONG WITH THE WORLD blah blah blah blah blah blah blah WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY TOOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS blah blah blah blah blah blah YOU JUST DONT GET IT blah blah blah blah blah DAMN MODERATORS blah blah blah blah.....................

Guest: YAWN.

The Shambles: Blah blah blah blah blah DAMN MODERATORS blah blah blah blah blah DAMN EDITORS blah blah blah blah blah blah blah DAMN EVERYONE blah blah blah blah blah TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah THIS IS WHATS REALLY WRONG WITH THE WORLD blah blah blah blah blah blah blah WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY TOOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS blah blah blah blah blah blah YOU JUST DONT GET IT blah blah blah blah blah DAMN MODERATORS blah blah blah blah.....................

Guest: YAWN

The Shambles: Blah blah blah blah blah DAMN MODERATORS blah blah blah blah blah DAMN EDITORS blah blah blah blah blah blah blah DAMN EVERYONE blah blah blah blah blah TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah THIS IS WHATS REALLY WRONG WITH THE WORLD blah blah blah blah blah blah blah WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY TOOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS blah blah blah blah blah blah YOU JUST DONT GET IT blah blah blah blah blah DAMN MODERATORS blah blah blah blah.....................

Guest: YAWN

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: number 6
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 09:44 PM

"Shiny happy people holding hands
Shiny happy people laughing"

.. excerpt from Shiny Happy People REM


sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 09:40 PM

Those unhappy with the mods, those unhappy with those who are unhappy with the mods and those unhappy with those who are unhappy with those who are unhappy with the mods.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 09:15 PM

Pshaw!   Who is making it unhappy?????????????

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 08:15 PM

Don't make the thread unhappy again Ron. We left it as a happy fun thread. Come join the 85 billion thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 07:56 PM

" Like Shambles and now Ron Olesko..."

Or the same guest

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 07:12 PM

OK

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 07:10 PM

Too risky. Is there an R in the month and a prevailing wind?

Let's just move.

Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Oct 06 - 07:04 PM

I'm trying.

How's about we ask the mods to move the jokes from this thread to help the 85 billion thread along?