Hedge & Donna: Where are they? (2019 Obit: Donna)

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 04:15 AM

However, you may wish to use Music Match or Nero Wave Editor as you may find them easier to use than Audacity at least for the line in recording. Audacity still works best imo for splitting the tracks. I record one side of the LP at a time and then split with Audacity.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: bobad
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 07:17 PM

Three Hedge and Donna LP's available here.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Tom
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 06:25 PM

I had thought about uploading a couple of Hedge and Donna mp3's that were mentioned in prior posts (recorded from vinyl) but the site does not allow it and besides there may be copyright issues.

In any case it appears the vinyl is available from ebay and possibly other sources. So get the vinyl. Obtain a good turntable (quality matters). Buy good quality cables from Radio Shack or elsewhere that have RCA type plugs on one end and computer (mini) plug on the other - looks like the smaller type plug on the end of headphones. Your computer must have a sound card for this to work. Plug the RCA into the sound out of your stereo rack system with phono selected. Plug into your sound in on your computer. Obtain sound recording software if you don't have. I like Audacity which is free - http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/
Now the software may seem imposing - but don't use any of the bells and whistles - leave that for a sound engineer. Just record. It takes a while to even get how to do that - but worth it.

While you are at it - check out Compton and Batteau and also Tim Dawe all on vinyl but not didgital.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: Wesley S
Date: 17 Aug 07 - 01:43 PM

All the Friendly Colors

Special Circumstances

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Janice K.
Date: 16 Aug 07 - 02:08 PM

I was one of the early H&D fans from shows at the Main Point (they crashed at a neighbor's who was a manager at the club). When my husband and I spent 10 days in San Francisco in '69 before he shipped out to VietNam and I returned to Bryn Mawr, we were excited to see that H&D were playing at(I think it was) The Hungry I. Because the audience that night was small they couldn't have helped but notice we knew the words to every song they performed. We went backstage after to say hello and one of their backup musicians sold us a little weed which made our last days together even sweeter. Husband didn't make it back from V.Nam--well, he came back in a box (we were so naive)-- and I've always been thankful we could share that beautiful music together. It's bitter-sweet to hear, but I still play their records; bringing back good memories of a romance that ended too soon.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Guest *Julie Hines*
Date: 09 Aug 07 - 09:37 PM

Another person who saw H&D at the Troubadour who still has "Please Understand Me" running around my brain. I loved their sound and have been looking for old albums for years. I'd love to have a CD or DVD or even MP3 files of their stuff. I keep hoping it will turn up on the newsgroups.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,cflpeace
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 09:53 PM

I just googled "hedge and donna" and was amazed to find all these aficionados for a duo that I thought I only knew because I went to Whittier College with them; yes, of course, I knew they had sold seven albums on a major label and, yes, I knew (because I was there) that they once opened for Nina Simone at the Troubadour, but I have so rarely found others who knew them that I was delighted to find so many asking the same question - How do we get their music?
(By the way, you know that amazing solo Donna does on H/D2, "Four Women"? That's Nina's, and Nina and Donna each sang it that night at the Troub.)
Also anyone of you who has their albums on mp3 or cd - especially the first three albums - I would love to get it from you. (How do I contact you?) But I also want someone who knows how to do it to get them made into commercially available cds. I have every one of their records stored away but no functioning record player.
I was a freshman in the senior year of Hedge Capers and Donna Carson. Because Hedge and I were both in the theatre arts department (Donna was sociology/psychology), I met him and hung out with a group he often hung with in the on-campus lunch place. I was fortunate to be asked by a student to be in her one-act play - with Hedge playing my daddy. This student director had never seen me act and had barely met me, so I couldn't figure out how I got the honor till I found out I was to play a fourteen-year-old brat (part of the benefits of looking fourteen when you're nineteen.)
I was aware of Hedge for two reasons before I met him: He did campus concerts, sometimes with Donna and sometimes with the group called "The Capers," which had two other guys, including Arnie Moore (who was mentioned earlier in this thread); and also because I saw him play the young Buddhist priest in the student-directed "Rashamon" - with the same Arnie Moore as the wigmaker. Both were phenomenal. Arnie's bass is also heard on Richie Havens' stunning "Richard P. Havens 1983" which came out in the 1969.
Anyone who knows Hedge or Donna, please tell them I said "hi."

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Judy
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 04:29 AM

Have you guys tried ebay? Two years ago I got 3 albums in perfect condition. they are packed away someplace, as we moved from San Diego to another state shortly after tHat. And, our stereo, record player or whatever we used to call them, is also packed and in need of a needle. I also just went to ebay and bought an album after they change their profession name to Capers and Carson. Thanks to whoever posted that. I never knew they recorded under a different name. Anyway, if you check ebay, don't forget ebay has several place to look, they have half.ebay.com      ebay express, ebay stores and regular ebay. Some of them might overlap, but just know that sometimes ebay isn't as simple as you thnk.
Always loved H & D after a friend told me about them in the early 70's. Always wondered about them. I checked the internet as soon as we got a computer. Hardly any mention at all back then. Now interesting to see how many people remember them.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jul 07 - 10:36 PM

Clyde III I am VERY interested in the CD's - how do I contact you?

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Sandi
Date: 19 Jun 07 - 05:17 PM

I would just love to get CDs of their albums. Yes, their songs STILL ring in my head -- one line especially "just can't breathe here" still haunts me.....
Years ago, I let my teenage brother, who at that time was going through his first puppy love breakup, go through my extensive record album collection to cheer him up and he walked off with over half of them (including my beloved Hedge and Donna records)...........
If there's any way to get copies of their CDs, please contact me!
Thanks!

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Barry Zimmerman
Date: 13 Jun 07 - 08:13 PM

I believe there are enough loyal fans to encourage the re-release of the albums. I love the guitar work on the earlier albums. My favorite was "(I've got a) Long Way to Go."

I rode the train from Philadelphia to see them at a coffee shop called "Main Point" in Bryn Mayr about 1970. The small group of fans would have stayed all night. After many encores, the show ended. It ended after the last train returned to Philly. We walked back Lancaster Ave however far it was to 34th and Powelton Ave. We had our own "long way to go."

If either Hedge or Donna are reading these replys, we miss your songs and harmonies.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Peg
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 05:36 PM

I knew Hedges when he was living in La Jolla in the 1980' and 1990's.
I knew his wife and saw her last at the Del Mar Fair. They were divorced by then. Nancy was his wife then.

Hedges was singing at the "Old Time Cafe" located in Leucadia California
a town located in North County San Diego.
Hedges was still writing and singing but working as a therapist at that time.

I have some tapes of his work that is not on CD or albums.

Peg

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,coldjam
Date: 08 Jun 07 - 12:29 PM

Me too me too! Clyde can you contact me?
Judy

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,hedgehog2
Date: 08 Jun 07 - 02:38 AM

Hey Clyde III:

I'd love to get some burns of the H&D albums.


Lemme know.


Richard

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,hedgehog2
Date: 08 Jun 07 - 02:37 AM

Hey Clyde III

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 10:42 AM

Y'all will have to join Mudcat to be able to exchange PMs (personal messages) to get some results on this.

I wish someone would get artist permission to do a re-issue. There is clearly a market for it!

~Susan

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Mike
Date: 02 Jun 07 - 02:56 AM

I imprinted on Hedge & Donna 2 in about 8th-9th grade when it was current and my older sister had a borrowed copy. She had seen them at the Main Point, probably the same show or shows as an earlier entry mentioned. The album meant a lot to me and is deep in my psyche. I can still hear "Please Understand Me" in my head, word for word, in it's entirety, and WOULD LOVE ANY WAY TO BUY/DOWNLOAD, etc. THAT ALBUM and check out any of the others. I google them every couple years or so just to check in. Not sure how this link thing works, but if anyone can hook me up with aforementioned digitization(s), please contact me: mike's address

I saw a used vinyl copy of H&D2 for sale on the internet a few years back and didn't move fast enough on it. Drat.

This is a nice thread. Thanks for all the inputs & updates.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Tom
Date: 19 May 07 - 01:38 PM

Has anyone on this thread obtained any of the digital copies mentioned above. I have made digital copies but alas my LP's (the first 5) have seen some hard days so the quality is poor - hence I am looking for better quality digital than I have.

Cheers.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,jmad
Date: 15 May 07 - 09:04 PM

ClydeIII,
I am very intrested in getting the lp's on cd, can you help?

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Kathy
Date: 13 May 07 - 08:27 PM

My sister had one of their albums back in the mid-70s. We let someone borrow it and never got it back. Thirty years later I still regret the loss. I would love an opportunity to get copies of their music.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: ClydeIII
Date: 13 May 07 - 11:07 AM

Have all five records and am copying them on cd's. Anyone interested let me know. Seems I can get two records per cd. Still love their music after all these years

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Clyde
Date: 13 May 07 - 11:00 AM

Have all five of their records and am copying two each per cd still love them after all these years

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Guest WWB
Date: 02 May 07 - 08:09 PM

I lived next store to Hedges in Monterey in 1963. His dad was the chaplin at th Naval Post Graduate School. We next saw he and Donna in 1969 at the Celler Door in DC.

I woLet the river rock you like a cradle
Fly to the treetops, child, if you're able
Let your hands tie a knot across the table.
Come and touch the things you cannot feel.

And don't mind me
for I ain't nothin
but a dream uld love to get a copy of the song (my brother lost the LP!)

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,ric
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 12:51 PM

a friend of mine saw hedge and donna in LA, as some small club, in what turned out to be their final performance. farewell! he talked with them briefly after they finished their set and they told him they were quitting the music biz to begin a marriage counselling practice! perhaps, being an interracial couple, they felt they had some insight into the challenges of marriage? in any case, bizarre as it sounds, that's what THEY said they were going to be doing. this was in the mid 70's. maybe 76-77-78?

i wonder if its true...
ric

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,jgh
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 12:51 PM

and my favorite H&D song? (Often associated with Richie Havens)

Follow
Jerry Merrick

Let the river rock you like a cradle
Fly to the treetops, child, if you're able
Let your hands tie a knot across the table.
Come and touch the things you cannot feel.

And don't mind me
for I ain't nothin
but a dream

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,jgh
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 12:39 PM

I found this thread because I, too, am one of those who still dreams of H&D music. I have several badly treated vinyls... would love to get the music on CD!

Hippups - I'd love transferred music until someone finally sees the light and reissues a CD collection.

Hedges Capers, Sr. was actually a quite famous humanist psychologist in the Transactional Analysis field. La Jolla was ground zero for this movement.

From the bio, it sounds like Hedges, Jr. followed in dad's footsteps. Those of us who were part of the humanist psychology movement of the 70's aren't surprised by the description of his behaviors by the GUEST above - not saying the description is true or accurate.

But many of the people in the movement felt that sexual repression was a core source of mental/emotional disfunction - and that the answer to unhealthy dependency was sexual freedom and freedom from jealousy ala'the popular book, Open Marriage.

The experiementation that followed often ended badly - the authors of that famous book later divorced - and many therapists were guilty of crossing what are now clearly defined ethical boundaries. Fritz Perls was a brilliant therapist, the pivotal character in Gestalt therapy, but his "therapy" sessions in hot tubs are legendary. Trance therapy and sexual promiscuity would not have been seen as oddities in this milieu... they would actually have been seen as positives.

I hope Hedges Jr. is one of those that survived the craziness, learned from it, and established a healthy life full of real commitment. I also hope Donna found happiness.

As is the case with one of my other favorite duos from the same era, Ian & Sylvia, I'm sorry about the difficulty of the relationship but that doesn't take away from the beauty of the art they created together.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,GUEST:mhsgbrown
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 04:47 PM

I would be very interested in CD's of Hedge and Donna. I thought I was the only one that couldn't get their music out of my head. None of my current friends has ever heard of them. Anyway, let me know if any cd's or songs become available to buy or download.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,kmarnyc
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 07:57 PM

I also would be interested in CDs of H&D. Made me "cry" a bit just reading on this list everyone else's comments and memories of the lyrics and the smooth contrast in vocal tones of H&D. I think I was in 10th grade in high school in Detroit area (I'm 53 now); friend of mine had two or three albums of theirs and let me borrow them. Think I must have seen them on the Smothers Brothers or something (there were a lot of great variety shows on regular TV at the time featuring the most challenging bands/vocalists. Pretty amazing, given the drivel that's on now).

Anyway, let us know about CDs if possible.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: mrmoe
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 07:13 AM

Hippups.....I would be VERY interested in your transferred albums

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 11:20 PM

Correction: I have 4 albums. Everything except Evolution.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Hippups
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 11:17 PM

I have 3 of their albums transferred from vinyl to cd. If anyone is interested, post here.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 02:50 PM

Are any of those interested in reissues in a position to contact the copyright holders to try to get permission for a reissue?

I should have said earlier, sorry-- I DID NOT mean to suggest that Camsco would, could, or should do anything remotely like bootlegging. I just was hoping, like any other fan, that a deal could be put together that could result in a reissue plan, and it seemed to me that maybe we had enough pieces here to venture in that direction.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,ahimsakid
Date: 15 Mar 07 - 01:57 PM

I would buy a reissue. The lyric still floating in my head and apropos to today: "The crooked king was crawling/His courage left behind/He couldn't keep up with himself/His army won the battle but the enemy was blind/They lost their pride and nothing else."

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,ginger_gower
Date: 08 Mar 07 - 01:56 PM

I would buy H&D CDs!

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Donalda Mosby Lovelace
Date: 26 Feb 07 - 10:14 PM

I went to high school with Donna in San Diego. If anyone is in touch with her ask her to email me.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,GUEST
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 10:48 PM

Wow,

I just googled H&D on a lark because my kids wanted me to name a group they'd never heard of before and I've missed hearing their music for 35 years. If their albums are re-issued on CD, I'd certainly buy! and another for the friend who introduced me to them as well.

Jamie

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 04:58 PM

Dick Greenhaus of CAMSCO records (a Mudcatter) has done re-issues such as Sharmagne describes. I'll send a PM.

Who will make a commitment to a purchase, among us? I don't think small-scale would be a problem.

I'm in.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 10:51 AM

Sorry wanted to clarify. Nancy divorced Wings in '99 not Hedges. As far as I know they are still together.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Feb 07 - 04:26 AM

Okay, When I was sharing a house on Ridpath in Laurel Canyon, with Paul Rothchild and Fritz Richmond,who was dating Linda Ronstadt. Hedge and Donna lived up behind us. We could hear them fighting a lot. They had a son together.   Many years later I somehow/somewhere met Hedge and we began to write together. I think I may have looked him up in the phone book. I am a lyricist.

This was around 1976-1978. Hedge was living on Stnaley Hills Drive off Lookout Mountain. We were dating, but everytime I took him anywhere he would collect the phone numbers of any attractive female in the room and I'd find them just leaving his home when i'd show up to work with him on a songthe next day. He was doing trance therapy on the side, and for some reason I believe he had a contract with A&M records as a staff writer.

I tracked him down in the 80s looking for a copy of a song we had worked on together. He had jsut left a very bad marriage ( from his ex wife's point of view) They were living in Santa Monica and he had a couple of kids with her.

After he left her he moved to La Jolla to work in Trance Therapy which he had been doing previously with his father (also named Hedges Capers)

He married a woman named Nancy Locke aka Nancy Hauser who was previously married to Wings Hauser. ( divorced 1999)

They presently live in La Jolla California.

I believe I have 3 Hedge and Donna vinyls I know I have the one with Lace Child on it and Can You Hear Me.

Their albums include:
Hedge & Donna (1960) -
Evolution (1960) -
Hedge & Donna 2
All the Friendly Colours (1969)
Special Circumstances (1970)


I would love to have an MP3 and can make my vinyls available here in So. Cal for someone to transfer them to an cds.

Sharmagne Leland-St. John

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,bridget
Date: 23 Feb 07 - 12:20 PM

still looking for a digitized version of their music - or a CD - any ideas?

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Feb 07 - 11:51 PM

Now this thread needs to ask "Mark Cohen - Where is he now?" It has been almost exactly one year (Feb. 22) since his last post. I hope he's doing well at the new practice.

SRS

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,DJ
Date: 19 Feb 07 - 11:08 PM

Saw them at the Troubador. I still have "Can you hear me?" running thru my head. I'd like to hear the real thing again.

That night Hedge broke a guitar string, bothered him so much he couldn't finish the song. Hard to think of him as an actor

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,rjtucker
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 04:53 PM

BTW - Hey Marc, I love your music too!

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,rjtucker
Date: 29 Jan 07 - 03:58 PM

They were a great duet! Jamie is still my favorite song of all times. Their Any Day Now was great, Hannah was one of the best. I have been looking for CDs or downloads for them for years - which is how I ended up on this website. If anyone knows of a source, please post it!

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Diana - guest
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 04:57 PM

I used to go out to this coffee house in La Mesa to listen to them. Dring way cool hot apple cider drinks - smoke strange things in the parking lot, and listen to Hedge and Donna play and sing so sweet. One of my great girlfriends, Gayla, dated Hedge for a long while before he hooked up with Donna Gayla sang too and wrote songs - a couple of hers are on one of the albums. Does anyone know if there is a way to get any of their song for download - ipod or other format? My vinyls are WAY too thrashed from the day - too much fun if you know what I mean. I think I have them all somewhere though!
Diana - reminishing and wishing in some ways it was 1966 again...can you hear me?

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,chris
Date: 28 Dec 06 - 12:20 AM

They were the coolest and helped me get through hard times in the late sixties. I too still hear their music in my head after all these years.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Eric
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 02:56 PM

Arnie Moore also played bass for John Stewart and still mails to the John Stewart list; Bloodlines. I think he may be a teacher now. He has some interesting posts and I have to confess I have only heard of Hedge and Donna through Arnie mentioning them on the 'lines - they seem to have been a US only item. I can email the list and ask him to respond to this query on Hedge and Donna if anyone wants, though things will be a little quite over the Christmas period I guess so I may not get a response.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: Scrump
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 05:10 AM

Didn't Hedge join U2?

... I'll get me coat.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Guest - Stu
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 08:48 PM

I just played golf with Hedge today in San Diego. Real nice guy and a fine golfer. He got a degree in clinical psychology after 10 years in the music industry and was a clinical psychologist before doing some consulting for businesses.

I just met him today - googled him when I got home. Like I said, nice guy with some good stories to tell.

Subject: RE: Hedge and Donna - Where are they now ?
From: GUEST,Sharon
Date: 18 Oct 06 - 04:10 PM

I think I was their biggest fan. I transferred all my vinyl to tapes back in the late 80s, with predictable poor results. Also picked up copies at garage sales of some of the same vinyl I already had -- hoping to make it last longer. Sadly, some are badly scratched now. Hannah was also my favorite. It is a beautiful, powerful, soul wrenching song. I will definitely be contacting [e-mail] for some MP3s, although the quality of MP3s is nothing like vinyl IMHO. I have searched for them frequently before, and am so glad to find this thread!!

I wish I could hear them live again!

Sharon