Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 15 Dec 20 - 09:33 PM As my dear old friend Manny Kant said, "Die Logiker sagen mit Recht, daß man beim Gebrauch der Urteile in Vernunftschlüssen die einzelnen Urteile gleich den allgemeinen behandeln könne. Denn eben darum, weil sie gar keinen Umfang haben, kann das Prädikat derselben nicht bloß auf einiges dessen, was unter dem Begriff des Subjekts enthalten ist, gezogen, von einigem aber ausgenommen werden. Es gilt also von jenem Begriffe ohne Ausnahme, gleich als wenn derselbe ein gemeingültiger Begriff wäre, der einen Umfang hätte, von dessen ganzer Bedeutung das Prädikat gelte. Vergleichen wir dagegen ein einzelnes Urteil mit einem gemeingültigen, bloß als Erkenntnis, der Größe nach, so verhält sie sich zu diesem wie Einheit zur Unendlichkeit, und ist also an sich selbst davon wesentlich unterschieden. Also, wenn ich ein einzelnes Urteil (judicium singulare) nicht bloß nach seiner inneren Gültigkeit, sondern auch, als Erkenntnis überhaupt, nach der Größe, die es in Vergleichung mit anderen Erkenntnissen hat, schätze, so ist es allerdings von gemeingültigen Urteilen (judicia communia) unterschieden, und verdient in einer vollständigen Tafel der Momente des Denkens überhaupt (obzwar freilich nicht in der bloß auf den Gebrauch der Urteile untereinander eingeschränkten Logik) eine besondere Stelle." |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: gnu Date: 15 Dec 20 - 10:12 PM Rap... 15 Dec 20... So, summed up, my reply would be, to quote Cousin Rodney of Kent, "Money talks, and bullshit walks." |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: keberoxu Date: 15 Dec 20 - 10:15 PM Good to hear from you, gnu, and I sincerely hope that the holiday season for you this year, in some way or other, is a more life-affirming experience than the one you must have endured in 2019, a year ago at this time. Keep hanging in there. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Dec 20 - 11:22 PM It seems I should put this in a music thread, or even start one, but a Google Blob opera machine learning just does sound like a great source of BS, doesn't it? Let the dulcet tones of Google’s Blob Opera ring in the holiday season with machine learning |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 16 Dec 20 - 09:54 AM Hark the hearald googles sing! |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 16 Dec 20 - 01:11 PM Sounds like some squeezy toys that dogs play with. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 16 Dec 20 - 04:21 PM Rap you were 1,666 The blobs were cute when singing christmas carols. I couldn't get them to sing my suggestions. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 16 Dec 20 - 05:08 PM This is 1668. These people die in 1668: January 6 Luis de Benavides Carrillo, Marquis of Caracena (b. 1608) Magdalene Sibylle of Saxony, Crown Princess of Denmark (b. 1617) January 14 – Arnauld de Oihenart, Basque historian and poet (b. 1592) January 31 – Hermann Busenbaum, German Jesuit theologian (b. 1600) February 2 – Antonio del Castillo y Saavedra, Spanish artist (b. 1616) February 8 – Alessandro Tiarini, Italian painter (b. 1577) February 21 – John Thurloe, English Puritan spy (b. 1616) March 16 – Francis Talbot, 11th Earl of Shrewsbury (b. 1623) April 12 – Alexander Daniell, sole proprietor of the Manor of Alverton, Cornwall (b. 1599) April 21 – Jan Boeckhorst, Flemish painter (b. c. 1604) May 1 – Frans Luycx, Flemish painter (b. 1604) May 8 – Catherine of St. Augustine, French nun and nurse of New France (b. 1632) May 9 – Otto Christoph von Sparr, German general (b. 1599) May 21 – Christoph Delphicus zu Dohna, Prussian-born Swedish soldier, diplomat (b. 1628) June 20 – Heinrich Roth, German Sanskrit scholar (b. 1620) July 26 – Hans Svane, Danish statesman (b. 1606) August 9 – Jakob Balde, German Latinist (b. 1604) August 23 – Artus Quellinus the Elder, Flemish sculptor (b. 1609) August 24 – Tyman Oosdorp, Dutch brewer and magistrate of Haarlem (b. 1613) September 16 Paolo Emilio Rondinini, Italian Bishop of Assisi (b. 1617) Jan Miense Molenaer, Dutch painter (b. 1610) September 19 – Sir William Waller, English Civil War general (b. c. 1635) October 12 – Zacharias Wagenaer, secretary, painter, then merchant and administrator (Dutch East-India Company) (b. 1614) October 13 Robert Sutton, 1st Baron Lexinton, English politician (b. 1594) Algernon Percy, 10th Earl of Northumberland, English military leader (b. 1602) November 17 – Joseph Alleine, English non-conformist preacher (b. 1634) November 21 – Adolf William, Duke of Saxe-Eisenach (b. 1632) December 3 – William Cecil, 2nd Earl of Salisbury, English earl (b. 1591) December 14 – Charles Berkeley, 2nd Viscount Fitzhardinge, English politician (b. 1599) December 23 – Martin Bauzer, Gorizian Jesuit priest and writer (b. 1595) December 24 – Wadham Wyndham, English judge (b. 1609) I didn't know any of them. Did you? |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 16 Dec 20 - 09:06 PM What a concept. I would love to know many of them. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Dec 20 - 01:10 PM Here are flags for every Texan known to have died of COVID-19 in 2020 so far. I'd like to have known a few of them. Perhaps I do/did and am not aware yet that they died. :-( |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 17 Dec 20 - 05:02 PM Didja ever get a sonogram of yur brain? It is suppose to get you high depending on frequency and short duration. It has something to do with the singing neurons and pyramidal cells which contain your micro tubuels which can measure wave function collapse on a quantum scale. Quantum consciousness goes back to Schrodiger's 1932 book What is Life. In the last 10 years the awareness of quantum consciousness has exploded. The ventricals can help islate the quantum and the pyramidal cells in the tmporal lobes can decipher the signals. The universe operates on a non computational level including time insights that spreads events out. The insights you have goes beyond the rules. Understanding goes beyond computation. Do I understand quantum mechanics role in consciousness, HELL NO, but I love the extra help. How do you think I guessed Trump's twitter password to be maga2020? |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 17 Dec 20 - 07:14 PM I watch Bach in a graphic manner as the music is highlighted in color as it moves along. I realized that Toccata and Fugue was like a fractal with an added dimension of pitch and frequency. An audio fractal may only be doubled in rhythm and added in its simplest form an octave higher. Add counterpoint lines and the fractal creates yet another dimension. This would be a different approach to machine learned chorale 4 voice leading Bach. The usual method is by programing examples in the hundreds and have the computer create a new version based on those examples. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 18 Dec 20 - 05:49 AM I have an updated theory of evolution. Survival of the most joyous and good feelings a species have. On a quantum level of cillia on a paramecium to a human being's comprable micro tubuels in our pryamidial cells the good feelings of being alive and reproducing are factors in the continuation and groth of life. The power of orgasm derives all life in the universe. If it feels good, its alive. This an eastern concept that life is derived from the innate joyous universe and not just organization and computation by accident or pan spermia. I like thinking of (new to me) ideas because it feels good. If making quilts feel good and benefits a species it will grow. If Elon Musk feels good about putting a car in orbit it is an expression of the universe. 8^} |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 18 Dec 20 - 08:31 PM My old buddy Fred Schiller wrote this! Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium Wir betreten feuertrunken himmlische dein Heiligtum Deine Zauber binden wieder was die Mode streng geteilt Alle Manschen werden Brüder wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt Deine Zauber binden wieder was die Mode streng geteilt Alle Manschen werden Brüder wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt Wem der große Wurf gelungen eines Freundes Freund zu sein Wer ein holdes Weib errungen mische seinen Jubel ein Ja, wer auch nur eine Seele sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund Und wers nie gekonnt der stehle weinent sich aus diesem bund Ja, wer auch nur eine Seele sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund Und wers nie gekonnt der stehle weinent sich aus diesem bund Freude Freude heißt die Feder in der ewigen Naturfreude Freude treibt die Räder in der großen Weltenuhr Blumen treibt sie aus dem Keime, Sonnen an das Virmament Ein dringtsie in Tiefen, die des Sehers Rohr nicht kennt Blumen treibt sie aus dem Keime, Sonnen an das Virmament Ein dringtsie in Tiefen, die des Sehers Rohr nicht kennt. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 19 Dec 20 - 10:38 AM DON'T SWAT YOUR MOTHER (Brian Hooker & Porter Steele (c) 1919) Homeward to their mother, two working men did come, Weary from their honest toil and lighted up with rum. Supper was not ready. One aimed a brutal blow, When the blue-eyed baby stopped them, saying, "Brothers, don't do so. Don't swat your mother, boys, just 'cause she's old! Don't mop the floor with her face. Think of her love as a treasure of gold, Shining through shame and disgrace. Don't put the rocking chair next to her eye. Don't bounce the lamp off her bean! Angels are watching you up in the sky. Don't swat your mother, boys, it's mean! |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 19 Dec 20 - 09:26 PM In her eyes there's the blue of Killarney On her cheeks the rose of Kildare On her lips just a bit of blarney and the rose of Kildare in her hair She was cradled and born on St. Patrick's morn with a smile on her face so sublime She's as sweet as the day She stole Dad's heart away That old Irish Whisky of mine |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 20 Dec 20 - 12:14 PM I like Ode to Joy best. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Dec 20 - 02:09 PM When Schiller's text is dropped into Google translate (I couldn't work up any sturm und drang during the process, but it still worked), the resulting English column is a lot shorter. The Germans sure use a lot of extra syllables and letters. Joy, beautiful spark of the gods, Daughter of Elysium We enter your sanctuary drunk with fire Your spells bind again what the fashion strictly divided All people become brothers wherever your gentle wing dwells Your spells bind again what the fashion strictly divided All people become brothers wherever your gentle wing dwells Who succeeded in being a friend's friend Whoever wins a lovely woman mix in his jubilation Yes, who even calls to be a soul on the earth And whoever has never been able to steal their way out of this bond Yes, who even calls to be a soul on the earth And whoever has never been able to steal their way out of this bond Joy Joy is the name of the spring in the eternal joy of nature. Joy drives the wheels in the great world clock She drives flowers from the bud, suns to the virmament It penetrates into depths that the seer's pipe does not know She drives flowers from the bud, suns to the virmament It penetrates into depths that the seer's pipe does not know. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: keberoxu Date: 20 Dec 20 - 03:49 PM rapparee, that "Don't Swat Your Mother" lyric recalls Brendan Behan's doggerel from his "The Hostage." There's no place on earth like the world, There's no place wherever you be, There's no place on earth like the world, That's straight up and take it from me. Never throw stones at your mother, You'll be sorry for it when she's dead. Never throw stones at your mother, Throw bricks at your father instead. The South and the North Poles are parted, Perhaps it is all for the best; Till the H-Bomb will bring them together, And there we will let matters rest. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 20 Dec 20 - 06:23 PM Hey Rap you may have guessed I think Freud was full of Crap. I'm more of a Carl Jung fan. So I ask if you ever ran into the book 'Corpus Hermeticus'? It was found after a millenium of being lost by a book scout hired by Lorenzo D'Medichi. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 20 Dec 20 - 07:43 PM Sure. Here's a translation for you. I have the original -- autographed! -- in my own library. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 21 Dec 20 - 06:08 AM Holy Cow. That Hermes signature could be worth a fortune. Second century science books are all the rage now. This was a special request from Q-Anon himeself! The astrology and alchemy chapters have a finders fee I can retire on.. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 21 Dec 20 - 09:30 AM OhNo this is a Monastic forgery with no mention of astrology and alchemy. It is a early Christian attempt at misinformation and fake news. There goes my nest egg. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 21 Dec 20 - 04:19 PM Thanks anyway Rap, praise be upon you - long may you reign Deep in the bowel of the US Capitol the sub basement had a foul draft of sewerage. McConnel was leading incantations from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Mitch did not know he was reading the Dedication. Except for Romney in a suit all the High Reichical Senators were dressed in hooded cloaks and reverentially repeating everything Mitch said 5 syllables at a time. You could hear a flag pin drop when Mitch stopped. Mitch slowly squeezed a resounding whoopee cushion and began slowly "Fellow loyal Trumpists... the time has come...the body of Donald Trump has died...but even death doth die...We are here to restore and Transform der Leader into...Dark Trump the Vanquisher! ...long may he reign. Repeat after me "Hushmon Knee con varee"...**** ** ***"tush emon zer schwinfelt"... A mile away the Lincoln Memorial began to darken and Abe appeared to try and stand... |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 21 Dec 20 - 05:42 PM Here you are, complete with footnotes. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 22 Dec 20 - 04:06 PM That makes one helluva coffee table book. I'd be afraid what it would say about me if people saw it on my table. The book speaks of an actual journey a pharoh would take down an underground canal to the great pyramid from ~50 metres underneath the ass of the Sphinx. We don't make rituals like they used to. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 22 Dec 20 - 08:15 PM Well then, here ya go! |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 23 Dec 20 - 10:30 AM Good thing I took High School French. After reading I seem to have swelled with an unholy inspiration; The tragedy of the commons happens all the time No food for children is not a despicable crime But a tragedy of corporations is the worst on Earth Thank my god Wall Street peaks and isn't cursed Desolate death, evictions, addictions and pests are glorious for the unequivical master of lies Mercy is the power of pardons as sweet revenge crests The most beautiful music comes from anguish and cries Killing blacks is even better when its done by slow knee Calling us racists and Nazis is fake news and simply phony They say God called upon Donald Trump to cure these times of evil That is hysterically funny to those who know it's the DEVIL |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 23 Dec 20 - 02:05 PM Prove it conclusively by calling Lucifer up and putting him on Fox, etc. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Dec 20 - 04:42 PM Cut to the chase and pick up a copy of Jonathan Edwards' Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God. “The arrows of death fly unseen at noon-day; the sharpest sight cannot discern them.” |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 23 Dec 20 - 05:09 PM There is a Lucifer in the DC phone book. I called him up and put him on hold. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 23 Dec 20 - 08:37 PM You mean this one? The God that holds you over the pit of hell, much in the same way as one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect, over the fire, abhors you, and is dreadfully provoked; His wrath towards you burns like fire; he looks upon you as worthy of nothing else but to be cast into the fire; He is of purer eyes than to bear to have you in His sight; you are ten thousand times more abominable in His eyes than the most hateful venomous serpent is in ours. You have offended Him infinitely more than ever a stubborn rebel did his prince; and yet, it is nothing but His hand that holds you from falling into the fire every moment. It is to be ascribed to nothing else, that you did not go to hell the last night; that you were suffered to awake again in this would, after you closed your eyes to sleep; and there is no other reason to be given, why you have not dropped into hell since you arouse in the morning, but that God's hand has held you up. There is no other reason to be given, but His mercy; yea, no other reason can be given why you do not this very moment drop down into hell. O sinner, consider the fearful danger you are in! It is a great furnace of wrath, a wide and bottomless pit, full of the fire if the wrath that you are held over in the hand of that God whose wrath is provoked and incensed as much against you as against many of the damned in hell. You hang by a slender thread, with the flames of divine wrath flashing about it and ready every moment to singe it, and burn it asunder; and you have no interest in any Mediator, and nothing to lay hold of to save yourself, nothing to keep off the flames of wrath, nothing of your own, nothing that you have done, nothing that you can do, to induce God to spare you one moment. And consider here more particularly. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 23 Dec 20 - 08:58 PM If I had to guess that sounds like the invocation ceremony for admission to Bob Jones University. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Stilly River Sage Date: 23 Dec 20 - 09:26 PM Funny thing is, Edwards really liked spiders. He did some naturalist work following them around. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 24 Dec 20 - 02:18 PM He also wrote, changing a much earlier quote from the days of early Christianity, "The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of unbaptized children" even though he supported infant baptism. FYI, the original quote is "the floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops." |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: keberoxu Date: 24 Dec 20 - 03:50 PM The skulls of bishops, eh? How Covenanter of him ... |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 24 Dec 20 - 09:42 PM "...and the path with the bones of priests." Merry Christmas, Mom. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Dec 20 - 11:11 PM Poking around the streaming offerings, can't go wrong with A Christmas Story. Have a good xmas, everyone! a tapestry of obscenity getting ready for school was like getting ready for deep sea diving
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Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 25 Dec 20 - 07:37 PM Mom MOAB! You get back up where you can wish everyone a Merry Christmas (or whatever their choice is) and OUT of that gutter RIGHT NOW! Is that a bottle of hair tonic you're drinking? Heavens to Betsy, you'll make yourself sick yet! Here, drink this Courvoisier VSOP! |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 25 Dec 20 - 10:17 PM Obscenities are still floating above Lake Erie . The ephemeral virtual violent quality of social media includes wishing everyone a merry Christmas and having some joker issueing a death threat against those Christian Kwanza haters or 'extreme' bhuddists declaring a fatwa against the 2,000 page snooze pill called the bible. Of course the King James beta version 2.4 of the 'bile bull' is the real one and not that 1st Jewish version. But re-legends aside there are greater arguments we can pretend to have. Anything to make the life of a moderator ulceriffic. (Facebook aside) FB somehow makes money on nazi forums discussing the real reasons for safely blowing up Nashville with a broken down motor home for the facist cause not be confused with fact-cious causes. As long as America can safely dream of sugar plum masked singers and dancers and pimple poppers. Old Mister Potter sleeps tonight with happy revenge of NO Covid, unemployment insurance, or food bank relief. The lying sleeps tonight, in the jungle the mighty jungle.... |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Dec 20 - 11:12 AM That odd blast in Nashville, a white recreational vehicle driving down the street broadcasting to vacate the area - then BOOM! - that should be the singular story of the weekend, you'd think. But the toxic BS being served up (now from Florida) puts it all into the shadows. It really is difficult to top some of that. I am waiting for the justice system to try to stuff that evil genie back into a courtroom-shaped bottle (followed by a prison cell shaped bottle, better than an ankle bracelet on the golf course bottle). I'm gonna go make cinnamon rolls. You'll know by the smell when they're ready and can come get a couple each. Who wants icing on top? |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 26 Dec 20 - 12:50 PM Cinnamon rolls washed down with prison wine sounds fine. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: keberoxu Date: 26 Dec 20 - 02:29 PM Prison wine? Is that the kind that they cultivate using toothpaste and stuff? |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Dec 20 - 03:41 PM Hair tonic and iodine, in Mr. Roberts. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 26 Dec 20 - 09:42 PM A largish black plastic trash bag. In that put as much fruit cocktail and other canned fruit stuff as you can swipe from the mess hall. Throw in a few slices of bread for yeast and as much sugar as you can swipe. Put it all under your bunk for a few days to ferment. Take it out and drink at your leisure, but watch the odor and the guards! |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 27 Dec 20 - 03:12 PM Thats the one. You forgot its ususally brewed in the toilet for concealment. I got a hand made quilt for xmas. It has a border of a full philharmonic orchestra with all the different instrument players but since it repeats it is a 3,000 member orchestra. The middle panel has a full size cello scroll, cellos,a strad,concert piano, music manuscript and more. The other side has concert harps, violins, violas and string bass. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 28 Dec 20 - 08:43 AM There is an editorial called the 19th in the New Yorker that sums up my opinion of Covid 19 management in the US. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 28 Dec 20 - 11:13 AM "To the living we owe respect, to the dead we owe the truth". Voltaire He got it wrong, the truth is wasted on the dead. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Rapparee Date: 28 Dec 20 - 08:36 PM Unless you're the one being lied about, and then, well, George Washington couldn't tell a lie and became the Father of His Country. Of course, that was a lie about him, and we owe it to him to tell the Truth about him. He wasn't the "Father of His Country", he had no biological children of his own (although he did adopt two from Martha's previous marriage). Unlike some Presidents (e.g., Warren Harding, FDR) he didn't keep a mistress in DC during his Presidency. |
Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] From: Donuel Date: 29 Dec 20 - 06:40 AM We tend to print all of the legends and lies and ignore the ugly truth. The truth of our beauty is brief and the lifetime of lies is long. The truth need not demand incontravertible proof. Nor are all lies necessarily wrong. It is because we are all mortal That time is a locked portal. see what i did there? |
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