BS: Palin VP McCain choice

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 12:27 PM

That quote about plastering on the make-up is extraordinary - it really does, on its own, suggest more than just loose screw. Googling it is a bit strange. It arises from a book called The Real McCain by someone named Cliff Schecter. This book, and especially the comment, is almost non-existent in mainstream media book reviews or news, while being very widely quoted in left wing blogs. It's not on snopes.

The only mainstream review I found was in the Guardian, which says this:

"The list of worrying incidents is long. In 1995 he ended up almost physically scuffling with aged Senator Strom Thurmond on the Senate floor. And, according to some accounts, in 2006 he had a fight with Arizona congressman Rick Renzi, throwing blows in a scrap whose details have only recently been detailed in Schecter's book. Schecter unearthed another unpleasant incident from 1992 in which McCain, tired after a long day's campaign, reacted badly to his wife Cindy teasing him about his baldness. 'At least I don't plaster on the make-up like a trollop, you cunt,' McCain snapped in front of eyewitnesses. Schecter says he has three sources for the story. McCain's campaign have denied it."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/22/johnmccain.uselections2008

Not sure what to make of it.

(Not sure wht his punches would look like given that he can't raise his arms.)

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: olddude
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 12:16 PM

When asked what are the duties of the VP her response
"I can't answer that question until someone answers for me what is it exactly that the Vice President does."

Now that sums it up ...

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: olddude
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 12:09 PM

OMG
all this time Bruce, a closet Oil guzzler :-) who would have known

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 12:04 PM

but he loves BIG OIL

Cash in with Palin
Big Oil all the way

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: olddude
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 12:01 PM

Murdoch? Bruce did not buy those ad's I know he didn't he doesn't like Bush number III. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 11:50 AM

my disturbing cartoon

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Stringsinger
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 11:35 AM

Ron, I humbly disagree with you. Palin is no centrist. She would abolish Roe v. Wade.
She embraces a fundamentalist Christianity and is in concert with McCain's corporate vision of America. You wouldn't call McCain a centrist would you? She has built an Alaskan bridge to nowhere with Stevens and now is flip-flopping on that issue.

Sorry Ron, I bet to differ.

She is also shriller than Shrillary.

It's unfortunate that she pretends to speak for women when she supports so many issues that are inimical to women's health and reproductive rights.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Charley Noble
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 10:58 AM

Pailin is a useful choice for McKain who is increasingly desperate to get some media attention, and the fact that this pick is a surprising one insures such attention. And credit to Obama and Biden for not rising to the bait and dishing her as soon as she was announced, unlike some of the rest of us.

That being said I find her references to Geraldine Ferrario and Hillary Clinton disingenuous, given her denial of any sexual barriers to her own rise to power; she says that she did it on her own and in the face of Republican leadership opposition. She is evidently a crusader and outsider, and that may play well to reinforce McKain's image as a political maverick. However, McKain has hardly been a political maverick in his Presidential Campaign, or in his 90% voting record in support of the failed Bush Administration.

Palin will also reinforce McKain's ties to fundamentalist Republicans and independents; she's a poster child for them! But I fail to see how she helps him reach out for the majority of votes he'll need to win the Presidential race.

Pailin doesn't do a thing to help address the economic crisis which is facing this nation, nor does she bring any experience whatsoever to address international issues. She has challenged the Big Oil lobby in Alaska, but only to bid for a bigger share of their profits. She has little environmental concern about accelerated development of oil drilling and new pipeline construction in this fragile environment.

But I still say it's a good pick for McKain in the short run for refocusing media attention away from a very successful Democratic Convention to the Republican Convention. Now if he will only invite GWB to do the keynote address, his victory would be cemented!

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 10:33 AM

But see, Donuel, you are skittering all over the pond.

What about the TV special, In Search of Black Gold? What about it? Will it show some nefarious scheme of Palin's? Everybody already knows that she is gungho for development.

(I thought that 'Murcoch' was a typo for Murdoch until you spelt it that way twice. >>><<<< I went back just now and see that perhaps you do mean Murdoch, as in Rupert, since you mentioned the Wall Street Journal and 'Murcdoch'.)

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 10:19 AM

I Youtubed her last night. Its my opinion that picking her was McCain's ultimate sellout to big oil. If she gets in the White House, we are going to Miss Bush Cheney.

Sorry to disagree Joe, But I think that she would be the worst VP choice ever. I pray she won't be elected because I do not want to find out.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 10:14 AM

The Sarah Palin TV special.

CNBC Sept 24 08 'In Search of Black Gold'
8 ET

A Wall Street Journal / Murcoch production

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 10:09 AM

The pictures being circulated with Sarah Palin holding and supposedly shooting an M16 rifle are real, but it is also the first time she ever held one in her life. It was being demonstrated to her for photo op purposes by some very wary Guard instructors.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 09:26 AM

Ebbie, everything I said was true
but if I may add, you also followed the pack and repeated that Palin was against the bridge to the airport/nowhere, which Joe Offer eloquently made crystal clear was not entirely un needed, BUT
it turns out that Palin was for the bridge until political expediency changed her mind.

yes I corrected the date typo immediately but it went un noticed.

You know a young politician is seldom about unswerving loyalty to a position, it is about who wants what and how. The politician learns to compromise and change positions pretty darn fast and lie about it.

In Conclusion if you like strawberry ice cream I will not try to talk you our of it. But if you order Unranium ice cream I am going to say something.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Big Mick
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 09:23 AM

I will leave the analysis of qualifications, and vaginas to others. But I want you to mark this one down, and remember I predicted it. By the end of the campaign, she will be seen as a liability due to her making comments that were not well thought out, or that were not approved by her boss. I predict major gaffes. She will surprise some folks with her skills, as one does not rise to her level of popularity amongst her constituents without considerable skills. But her complete lack of exposure/inexperience to/with the beltway media crowd, and their ability to search out inconsistencies and mine them for controversy, will cause her to lash out. Wait and see.

She will start out great guns, but will go down in flames, IMHO.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: SharonA
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 06:14 AM

Barry, I didn't mean for the comparisons to be "cheap". I never saw a picture of Palin before last evening, and honestly, my very first impression of the very first pic of her with McCain was, "Gee, that looks a lot like that old picture of Monica looking at Clinton with doe eyes." The more pix of Palin I see, the more I see a similarity in the shape of the face, the bangs of the hair, the eyes, the nose and, yes, the mouth.

Oddly, there's also a similarity in the age difference: Lewinsky is 27 years younger than Clinton, and Palin is 27-and-a-half years younger than McCain.

I'm not saying that this means Palin is doing anything unseemly; it's just a coincidence. But I'm sure I'm not the only one who's noticed it, and I suspect that political cartoonists and YouTube animators are going to have a field day with it!

Another coincidence they'll not fail to notice is that Palin was a beauty queen in her youth, just as McCain's wife Cindy was. (McCain's first wife was a swimsuit model.) It ties in with McCain's reputation as a wolf with an eye for tall, slim, attractive and ever-younger women. As he spends time campaigning with Palin, rumors with fly that his marriage to Cindy is on the rocks and that she's jealous of his attentions toward Palin and that those attentions are unprofessional and that the only reason the inexperienced-in-national-and-world-affairs Palin was chosen was because McCain had another sort of affair in mind, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

McCain can't possibly win with Palin as his running mate. Even if she's not confirmed at the convention and it turns out that picking a woman was just an empty gesture, he's just proven that he can't pick a team wisely, and he's disproven his contention that his team has stronger leadership experience than Obama's. If it had to be a woman, there are several female Republicans with greater maturity and far more impressive resumes from whom he could have chosen. For instance, if he wanted to attract female voters, moderates, environmentalists and the Northeast Corridor vote, he could have asked former New Jersey governor Christine Todd Whitman, who is 8 years older than his wife. But noooooo. Right now, McCain really does look like a dirty old man.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 05:04 AM

Well, Barry, I took an Alaska Air flight into Ketchikan in a December blizzard. It doesn't look like the city has a whole lot of room for an airport. It's a small town of about 8,000 people, with scads of summer tourists. The only way to get there is by air or by boat. So, they built the airport on an island across from town, and get to the airport by boat. Not bad most of the year, but a killer during tourist season.
So, the bridge wasn't totally absurd. And what can you buy for $398 million nowadays, anyhow? A medium-sized shopping mall? Half a bomber?

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Barry Finn
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 04:57 AM

Sharon, those comparisons were a bit cheap



but so's this




Does McCain smoke cigars?


Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: SharonA
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 04:45 AM

Palin's wide-eyed, vapid look reminds me, disturbingly, of Monica Lewinsky's. Conpare the female face in this infamous picture to the corresponding expression of the female in the pic leading this article.

...or compare this embrace to that one...

this happy couple to that one...

this black-and-white modeling photo to that one... they look like they could be sisters!

*shiver*

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Barry Finn
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 04:30 AM

The fact that she'd even consider the bridges at 400 mil which could blow up to 2 bil, is not the logic of a potential Prez.

I could drag Nantucket & Martha's Vinyard to the mainland with their airports in tow & still have a bil or so left over to spend on the New York Judies. What was she gonna do when the bridges were finnally finished? Fish for whales off them as part of the new catch & release program? Maybe she should consider a new airport closer to a larger population & closer to dry land.

Better yet, maybe Senator Kennedy can get on with a new Transport bill to overshadow the "Big Dig". We'll call it the "Big Swim". a bridge to both the afore mentioned islands in Nantucket Sound then another on to link the 2 islands together. It'll save us on ferry costs, course we might lose out with the high cost of auto fuel. Maybe that'll be covered by "Palin's Pipeline" after ANWR's pushed through & pumping in, say another 2 decades or so.

She doesn't sound all that bright.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 02:57 AM

Well, I'm still unconvinced about all the muck that has been dug up on Sarah Palin in the last 24 hours. I guess muckraking is the name of the game, but the only real question brought up is this very muddy thing about her brother-in-law. I'd like to wait for the truth, instead of trying to sort through a lot of speculative half-truths.

I know I'm going to hate myself for bringing this up, but the LAST Vice President we had who was young, pretty, and Republican was...Dan Quayle.

I think it's easy to see, though, that Sarah Palin will make a better Vice President than Dick Cheney, Dan Quayle, Spiro Agnew, or Dick Nixon.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 02:51 AM

Naughty Librarian

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 02:39 AM

Bill Krystol predicted this two months ago.

As he lied about energy.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 02:26 AM

Palin's own words.

It was the wrong link previously.

This woman is going to make the Republicans hunt for Quayle.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 02:21 AM

Apparently she is just a little more articulate than W.

Sarah Palin in her own words.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 02:09 AM

Good grief. We have met the enemy and s/he is us!

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 02:07 AM

Pat Buchanan, a conservative who twice sought the Republican nomination in the 1990s, said: "This is the biggest political gamble I have ever seen. She is enormously exciting but if, God forbid, something happens, can she be president?"

from here

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4636745.ece

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 01:57 AM

Popular... Democratic Party views on Palin.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: CarolC
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 01:43 AM

"At least I don't plaster make-up on like a trollop, you c**t."

Heh. There's family values for you.


On the subject of Obama and the bridge, he's not campaigning on having opposed the bridge as Sarah Palin is. She is campaigning on opposing pork barrel spending and she is using the bridge as an example. That is what makes it noteworthy for the purpose of this discussion.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 01:37 AM

Louie, somehow I just don't see your kind, gentlemanly ways going along with things McCain has done/said, such as:

But despite his penchant for a little not-so-gentle ribbing, McCain doesn't cope very well on the receiving end. During his 1992 Senate campaign, a little inter-spousal teasing got out of control when, in front of aides and three reporters, his wife Cindy playfully twirled his hair and noted that he was thinning a little on top. His reply? "At least I don't plaster make-up on like a trollop, you c**t."

and

The Chelsea Clinton joke. At a Senate Republican fundraiser in 1998, when Chelsea was just 18, he took aim at both her appearance and that of the then attorney-general . "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?" he asked guests. "Because her father is Janet Reno."

Is that really someone you want to support?

There's more where those came from and they are direct quotes.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: CarolC
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 01:14 AM

What I said about the forums wasn't a barb, by the way. I did find two mentions about it in a couple of forums. Here's one of them...

http://vnboards.ign.com/outpost/b22180/108401618/p1/

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 12:50 AM

For those that can watch MSNBC.com

David Schuster has a panel discussion about Wooten-Gate

Check out the Republican hack who is trying to defend McCain's pick and attack the Democrats.

Look how miserable she looks as Roy Seacoff summarizes Palin's difficulty at the end. It looks to me as if she wants to puke and drink a tall scotch at the same time.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 12:39 AM

I read it in last week's Economist. (I caught that Carol.) JtS probably has it right. But then I also read he used them to great advantage, e.g. >250K to that white preacher who caused such a fuss at Wright's church with the Hilary slam.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 12:18 AM

Heric.

I am sure that the bridge was funded as an earmark. Its possible Obama voted for the bill it was attached to. Its very unlikely he actively supported it. Its possible that he did not know that the bridge was in the bill. That system is one of the things that he is saying he is trying to change. But I don't think that he ever intended to fight that battle bill by bill.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: CarolC
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 11:56 PM

The only references I have been able to find saying that Obama voted for the Gravina Island bridges is in posts to internet forms like this one.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 11:52 PM

Palin's Sister. The Billy of the McCain Campaign?



A

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: CarolC
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 11:48 PM

According to this article in the Christian Science Monitor...

"In the political parlaying, critics claim that Alaska - large in land, small in citizen numbers, and fifth in transportation dollars - wields disproportionate clout. This year, it could win twice as much highway money as New Jersey. Beyond transportation, Alaska receives seven federal dollars for each tax dollar sent to the US Treasury."


This is kind of interesting, too, from the same article...

"One impetus, rarely mentioned, is that the bridge would create an easy route for timber companies to log Pacific rain forest."


http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0615/p02s01-uspo.html


The stuff in the blog was copy pasted by the blogger from The New Republic


In this part...

"The window is now--while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."

...what she is saying is that the Alaska congressional delegation can help Alaska get a lot of money from the US taxpayers, so the state of Alaska better do everything it can to help get the bridges built before the window of opportunity closes on the more than a billion (total costs) dollars that the congressional delegation was working hard to pry loose from the US taxpayers for the two bridges in question.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 11:48 PM

I read that Obama supported the Bridge to Nowhere. Not true?

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 11:28 PM

Our bridge would cost about 4 million, 1 percent of the cost of the bridge to 67 people. It pays to live in Alaska, Our Senators and Governor have to represent 8 million people. The pork doesn't go so far. :-)

Ebbie, If what you just posted by that blogger is in any way true, Palin lied today to her first national audience, when she could just as easily have just left the reference to the "bridge to nowhere" out of the speech. That's not a great start. With here degree in journalism, one wonders why she did not know better. Did she think no one would look at her record?

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: CarolC
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 11:16 PM

Looks like Palin's people haven't had a chance to edit this Wikipedia page yet...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge

"Governor Sarah Palin also supported the bridge, but canceled it when the Alaska delegation was unable to prevent Alaska from paying for some of the bridge's cost...

...The ferry, which costs US$5 per person and US$6 per vehicle (one way),[5] runs to the island every 30 minutes for most of the year. During the peak tourist season (May–September), a ferry runs every 15 minutes.

According to USA Today, the bridge was to have been nearly as long as the Golden Gate Bridge and taller than the Brooklyn Bridge.[6] The bridge would cross the Tongass Narrows, part of the Alaska's Inside Passage, so the bridge was designed to be tall enough to accommodate ship traffic, including the Alaska Marine Highway and the cruise ships which frequent Alaskan waters during the summer.

Statistics show that Ketchikan's airport is the second largest in Southeast Alaska after Juneau International Airport, accommodating over 200,000 passengers a year, while the ferry shuttles approximately a half million people in the same time period (as of December 2006).[7] The Golden Gate Bridge carried an average of 118,000 vehicles each day in 2006.[8]

In October 2005, Republican Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska became the object of strong media criticism when he opposed diverting the Gravina and Knik Arm Bridge funds to help aid recovery from Hurricane Katrina.[9] In his speech on the Senate floor, Stevens threatened to quit Congress if the funds were removed from his state.[10]

Congress dropped the specific allocation for the two bridges, but the amount of money appropriated to Alaska remained unchanged. In August 2007, Alaska's DOT stated that it was "leaning" toward alternative ferry options, citing bridge costs, despite having already received the funds from the federal government.[11] Although the project and its excessive spending was initially supported by Alaska governor & 2008 Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin, she later reversed her position and canceled it on September 21, 2007.[2]

The project was canceled on September 21, 2007 by Alaska governor Sarah Palin because the federal government would not pay for all of it"

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: CarolC
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:59 PM

Well, we live in a neighborhood that has about 70 families, and we have only one way in and out of the neighborhood. And that one way crosses a railroad track. And trains carry hazardous materials on that track. So if there is ever a hazardous spill involving a train that's blocking our one entrance, we are dead. Maybe we should get the US taxpayers to pay for our second road.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:55 PM

In 2006 while she was running for Governor, Palin was asked: Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?

She said, Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now--while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.

This blogger says: So she was very much for the bridge and insisted that Alaska had to act quickly—the party of Ted Stevens and Don Young might soon lose its majority, after all.

The blogger explains: By that point, the project was endangered for reasons that had nothing to do with Palin—the bridge had become a national laughingstock, Congress had stripped away the offending earmark, shifting the money back to the state's general fund, and future federal support seemed unlikely.

The blogger continues: True, after Palin was sworn into office that fall, her first budget didn't allocate any money for the bridge. But when the Daily News asked on December 16, 2006, if she now opposed the project, Palin demurred and said she was just trying to figure out where the bridge fit on the state's list of transportation priorities, given the lack of support from Congress."

"Finally, (the blogger says), on September 19, 2007, she decided to redirect funds away from the project altogether with this sorry-sounding statement:

"Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer," said Governor Palin. "Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island," Governor Palin added. "Much of the public's attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened."

I can't believe that I'm here defending Governor Palin; I don't even like the woman. But I like even less piling on with little information; it seems to me that Palin's approach to the matter was sequential and logical in its progression.

Regarding the 'bridge to nowhere', I have previously said that it was an unfortunate misnomer, totally misunderstood by the press and therefore by the citizens.

Ketchikan, a town of about 13,000, is on the Alaskan mainland. Its airport was built on an island a couple of stone throws away. In addition to the airport about 50 families live on the island. (I say 50 families rather than "population" because when I worked at the Alaska Division of Elections I believe that Gravina Island had 67 voters).

To get back and forth from the airport one takes a ferry. The last I knew it wss $12.00 one way for a walk-on; $25.00 one way for a vehicle.

A good case could be made for a bridge. The problem was that the projected bridge would have had to be very tall to allow ships to pass beneath and would therefore have been very expensive.

Ketchikan itself voted against it. However, the governor at the time, Frank Murkowski, was pushing it; Murkowski hailed from there.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Riginslinger
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:55 PM

If I was starving, I'd get up at three-o'clock in the morning to shoot a moose. Otherwise, I think I'd just leave the moose alone to do whatever it is that meese do.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:51 PM

"At the present time I'm just one against 117 in this thread but come November I will be one of many million who will be voting for a winner McCain and Palin Cheers "

Of course you will.   Just remember that "many more million" will be voting for Obama and Biden. Cheers!

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: CarolC
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:45 PM

LOL

Sounds like the Bush people. "It's easier to get forgiveness than permission."

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:38 PM

maybe it had something to do with her and her dad getting up at 3am to hunt moose when she was just a schoolgirl?

Seems she may have left a few messes in the town where she was mayor:

n January 1997, Palin fired the Wasilla police chief and library director. In response, a group of 60 residents calling themselves Concerned Citizens for Wasilla discussed attempting a recall campaign against Palin, but then decided against it.[9] The fired police chief eventually sued Palin on the grounds that he was fired because he supported the campaign of Palin's opponent, but his suit was eventually dismissed when the judge ruled that Palin had the right under state law to fire city employees, even for political reasons

At the end of her mayorship, Palin was behind the construction of the Wasilla Multi-Use Sports Complex, a $15 million multi-use indoor ice arena, as her legacy. However, developer Gary Lundgren acquired the land before Palin could. Without the deed, Palin decided to build the arena there anyway, and attempted to acquire the land through eminent domain, but a federal appeals court ruled in favor of Lundgren. The case is in the process of being resolved in the courts.[13] It will cost Wasilla at least an additional $1.67 million to acquire the land[14] and Wasilla is still attempting to cover the budget shortfall by cutting library services, postponing capital improvement projects, and raising fees.

AL Gore should field this one:

Palin has announced plans to create a new sub-cabinet group of advisors to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions within Alaska.[29] After she was announced as McCain's presumptive running mate, she stated that she does not believe that climate change is man-made.[30] Which is it, Sarah?

Let's kill all the wildlife and run up the litigation costs:

In 2007, Palin agreed with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game to allow Alaska state biologists to hunt wolves from helicopters as part of a "predator control" program, violating a 35-year federal ban.[41] The program was heavily criticized by Defenders of Wildlife and predator control opponents[41], and prompted California State Representative George Miller to introduce a federal bill making the practice illegal.[41]

Alaskan Republicans had mixed reactions to the news of Palin's selection. State Senate President Lyda Green, a Republican who has often feuded with Palin, remarked, "She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?"

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Riginslinger
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:34 PM

Then she's flip-flopping. All we have to do is to determine the floor of the church on which she rolled around to beg forgiveness, and we'll be well on our way to uncovering the true nature of Sarah Palin.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: CarolC
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:28 PM

She said she was against the "bridge to nowhere" and that if Alaska wanted a bridge they could build it themself, but as recently as two years ago, she said she was for it. She indicated that it would be good to push for it while it could be financed by the US taxpayers.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:28 PM

Donuel, you say a number of unsubstantiated things.

You say: "Palin used to be against drilling in Anwr
now she is for it."

I have never heard of a time that she was not FOR it.

You say: "She first opposed the oil pipeline now she is for it."

You've got it all wrong. The "oil pipeline"? She was not in politics yet at the time of the oil pipeline; she was in her teens at the time.

I expect you are thinking of the natural gas pipeline? And even then, you are wrong. She has not ever been against it, only against the terms that the previous governor had acceded to and with the projected route. It appears that it will take place in the direction and on the terms that she held out for, since she signed AGIA this week.

You say: "Sometimes you don't have to pay a person money to corrupt them sometimes it is done with an offer of power."

True. But first you have to make the case.

You say: "She filmed a Murcdoch dicumentary called In Search of Black GOld last month and will air Sept 34th"

I looked for this documentary and didn't find it. Is it perhaps because the date is wrong?

You say: "In the coming days she will be all about drilling. She will be all about abortions"

She has ALWAYS been about drilling. So far as I know, she has ALWAYS been abortions.

You say: "Ebbie I am sure she is a fine woman and you would not not like to hear anything contrary."

I don't know if she is a fine woman; my only concern is to avoid uninformed but adamant attacks.

You say: "President Palin can release nuclear missles in 15 minutes.
But she calls them nuckular."

Even Jimmy Carter said 'nukular'; it appears that we are not going to break people of the habit.

As for President Palin, I hope it never happens. A mutual friend tells me that Palin's mother is right wing and that Palin is much worse.

As for the "ethics scandal" that has been bruited about, the only potential scandal involving Palin that I know about is the possibility that she gave the OK to staff and/or friends regarding harrassing phone calls on behalf of her sister when her sister's soon to be ex was not fired from his job in a timely manner.

The jury, so to speak, is still out on that. It is being investigated. I have no idea of the facts of the matter.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: Riginslinger
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:23 PM

Yeah, it's my understanding that she's addicted to some ancient superstition or another, but I can't find it on Wikipedia. It must have been one of the things they deleted.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin VP McCain choice
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 10:21 PM

Sorry to hear that, Louie. I hope you watch with an open mind and change it before election day.:-)

An interesting demonstration of the commonplace of the internet in the political life nowadays:

From the Washington Post

Just hours before McCain declared his veep choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, her Wiki page saw a flurry of activity, with editors adding details about her approval rating and husband's employment. Perhaps more tellingly, some of the same users editing her page were almost simultaneously updating McCain's Wiki entry, adding information dealing with accuracy, sources and footnotes to each.

While Palin was among the least well-known of the potential GOP vice presidential picks - and therefore perhaps the candidate whose Wikipedia page was most in need of updating - her entry saw far more activity than that of Minn. Gov. Tim Pawlenty, probably the next most obscure potential choice.

On August 28, Palin's entry was updated at least 68 times, with at least an additional 54 changes made to her entry over the preceding five days. In contrast, Pawlenty's entry received 54 alterations on the 28th, and just 12 changes during the prior five days.

There appeared to be very little crossover between Wikipedia user accounts editing the Pawlenty and McCain entries, said Terry Gudaitis, director of cyber intelligence for Cyveillance, an Arlington, Va. based Internet monitoring company.

According to This Fellow there have been over 1200 edits to her Wiki page.