2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 12:21 PM

Sounds like a serious lack of imagination!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Janie
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 12:18 PM

But Kendall, if I quit snoring it will be the end of a family legend!

Janie

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 11:29 AM

I'm serious. My ENT says a simple laser treatment can cure snoring without shooting the snorer.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Annie
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 10:42 AM

There is a direct correlation between sleeping and snoring. Cure one, cure the other.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 05:55 AM

snoring can be cured

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 03:36 AM

Hard to get my bike from Guam to Maryland. Guess I'll pass.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Annie
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 10:29 PM

Last year I brought my bike and whizzed down the mountain to the Conowingo Dam where there is a GREAT bike trail along the river on the old RR grade. Getting back up the mountain was a chugalug, but who cares the next day after it's over? Only takes a couple hours and we could hold a 'songs of the river' workshop along the trail so as not to go too long without song. Anyone care to join me this year?

Annie

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 12:53 AM

Serious snoring??? I wouldn't know anything about snoring except maybe that my wife vibrates out of the bed occassionally for no apparent reason then smacks me with her pillow and says it was my fault. Does that make me eligible for the "Snorer's Cabin"?

By the way, I would be happy to lead a workshop on "songs from the frozen north" or help out in any way I could. We are looking forward to meeting you all and sharing in this musical weekend.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 10:46 PM

I used to entertain the idea of sneaking around with a tape recorder in the middle of the night and then playing it back at breakfast as an "guess who THIS is"...but I do hate the idea of being tarred & feathered at a Getaway..*grin*. We have tried various things, but providing a supply of those soft foam ear plugs has seemed like the best solution..that, or staying up all night! (Not sure any of the cabins could withstand ALL the serious snorers at once..**rruummmbbblllee...crash!**)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 09:10 PM

Snoring

Somewhere up above there are a few comments about snoring and snorers. I got to thinking about that before I fell asleep last night. I thought it would be a great idea if all the snorers were consigned to a separate cabin.

Now, I hasten to add, I am one of the guilty parties. Or so I'm told by my children, every woman who has ever shared my bed, the family pets, and even the neighbors. Last year my younger daughter and I went to Gettysburg for my older daughter's graduation. The young one was thrilled to be invited to stay with her sister in the dorm. Next morning she reported that the two mile separation was almost enough...

So, I thought it would be a good idea to separate the snorers. Then my thoughts took me further. This is after all a gathering of musicians, some of whom are pretty inventive. What would happen if some enterprising soul snuck into that cabin and with an ingenious series of clothespins and collars tried to orchestrate that noise into a musical composition. The mind boggles.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 09:01 PM

One of the things Guam has is plenty of prepared foods, i.e., canned and in jars. And they are all spicy. The locals claim to like things HOT but I've had hotter elsewhere. There are a couple of itmes that they compare to wasabi and I haven't seen (tasted?) any reason to dispute them. Unlike wasabi this spiciness stick to your mouth. We have a new young officer who grew up in Texas. He tried some of the red peppers out of a jar. By the time he got to his fourth one he had sweat trickling down his forehead. He allowed as how he thought they might be spicy...

I'll check into the jars and cans on the store shelves and try to bring some local foods. Can I get serving dishes there? I'd use plastic but some of these foods might eat through the dish...

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Allan C.
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 12:44 AM

Kelly, you said a mouthful!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:19 PM

Tell Holly that I sold my motor home and probably wont go to Florida again, but if I do, Seamus and I will stop in to see her. She is special to us.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:17 PM

Dani, you can do it. I've seen you do it. Am I forgiven?

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 08:51 PM

hmmm, Mick...maybe "The Michigan Spring Getaway" I might go to that...I have never been to Michigan

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,Big Mick
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 08:12 PM

One of these days logistics are going to allow me to cook for a bunch of you.............

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Dani
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 07:02 PM

And, Kendall, all dogs like you.

Holly wants to know when you and Seamus are coming back.

BTW: I was invited to cook for a gathering similar to the Getaway, only smaller scale - like the previous cooking arrangements before Ramblewood. Hoo Boy! Tough act to follow! I told them I'd get back to them...

Dani

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 04:14 PM

Janie, my dear, we were speaking of restaurants. You spaghetti was yummy. And, I like all dogs.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Kelly
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 02:42 PM

I gotta pipe up here. American food is probably my favorite for the sheer variety of it. Really, only Chinese food rivals us in a single country having so many definite variations, region to region.

Northeast: Maine Lobster, Boston Baked Beans (though some folks prefer the Vermont variety), NY Cheesecake and Bagels, Buffalo Wings (all 200-some varieties), Clam Chowder (New England or Manhattan), Chop Suey (think its Chinese? Well you're half right. It was "invented" for a Chinese diplomat, in NYC in 1896)

Mid-Atlantic: Virginia Brunswick Stew (thanks dad :)) Smithfield Ham, Apple Butter (which finds its way onto my toast every morning), Maple Syrup, Philly Cheesesteaks, Chesapeake Blue Crab, Calabash seafood fry (North Carolina invention). Every variety of Squash (pumpkin, summer, spaghetti, winter, acorn and more!)

South: Red beans & Rice, Gumbo, Jambalaya, Crawfish Etouffé and anything else one can think of in that tell-tale Cajun-Creole style of cooking, peach pie & peach stew (Don't ask) courtesy of Georgia, South Carolina low-country crab cakes, Hushpuppies, Alligator, High-scald fried chicken, fried green tomatoes, fried pickles.. fried everything!

Mid-west: Tennessee Corn Chowder, Pizza of every kind, Red Hots (aka hot dogs), fry bread (yummy), Buffalo burgers!!! And stew, and steak and pot pie (these Bison-made delicacies can also be found in the mid-Atlantic)

Southwest: Texas Chili, Jalapeño cornbread, Navajo Indian Tacos, Pecan Pie, Chicken-fried steak, chicken-fried chicken, fried okra,

West Coast: Salmon cakes/patties, Green Corn Tamales, Avocados on everything! Baked Fish w/ orange and lime slices, Smoked Salmon, if it swims, they'll cook it, Dandelion salad/stir-fry.

Outlying: Puerto Rican Arroz con Pollo, y Arooz con Frijoles Negros, y Arroz con just about anything. Hawaiian Poi, Alaskan King Crab, Fillet of Moose!

And, in my humble opinion, the most genuine form of American cuisine, for every region has its very own method of preparation ranging in variety of meat, sauce, cooking materials, even whether or not the meat is ground, chopped, shredded, sliced or whole.

Barbeque!

So, hehe, from the greasy to the holistic, down-home to downtown, pretty much any food craving can be satisfied by the weird amalgam that is American Cuisine.

(Quickly says "MUSIC!" to cover herself for straying so violently off the topic.)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 02:32 PM

Jeri...didn't mean to suggest that nothing is eaten after 9 *grin*..I know better...just that we don't need everyone arriving after 9 to bring huge pots of stew..etc..(just trying to give a picture of things for new folk)...The crucial part is about planning so that we can clean up easily!

aww...it'll all work out, it always does...

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Janie
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 02:21 PM

Kendall--you are still in deep shite--what about my spaghetti sauce?!!(boohoohoo--he dinnit like my cookin,, nor apparently, my old black dog) Dani-- you and I used to be best friends *sob*

Janie

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 01:13 PM

nice save, Kendall. And from what I've heard - all true!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 12:58 PM

Oh shite! I plowed up a snake this time. I was speaking generally. Most of the restaurants in the USA are just hash houses compared to French cuisine. There are , however, exceptions, and Dani's place in Hillsborough NC is one of those rare American restaurants that do a super job. The difference between places like Dani's and most American restaurants, is imagination. The food there is outstanding, and the owner is beautiful, talented, gracious, intelligent, has two beautiful kids who are also exceptional, and I even like her husband!
And, their dog is nice too.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Jeri
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 12:47 PM

Bill, I don't think I've shown up earlier than 9. Not only do I eat some of whatever's there but I see plenty of other folks doing the same - especially last year when there was a pretty good jam goingin the dining room!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 12:42 PM

about Friday night potluck at the Getaway: We are still adjusting to the differences at this camp. For 30 years we were at camps with fairly easy access to the kitchen and thus, dishwashing facilities...but here, the staff does all the cooking and clean up...We had a semi-disaster 3 years ago when we did our usual "leave it all out after the potluck" and the camp staff was faced with a mess when they came in to do breakfast.

So...the deal is, we sort of put out potluck starting whenever critical mass arrives..somewhere around 6-6:30ish (yeah, some may get eaten earlier..*grin*)...and for the next 2 hours, stuff arrives and is consumed at a great rate. After that, those arriving will 'often' have eaten before coming..(like those locals who had to work Friday and wait till after rush hour to leave town).
...so, main dishes arriving after 8-9, may not be thoroughly appreciated...some snacks for those who are up late singing ARE always welcome! Some of the late night singing happens just around the corner for the dining hall.

We are 'gradually' learning to bring main dishes in either disposable containers, or to rinse/wash them less thoroughly until we get home..etc..etc...and to have a way to wrap them up easily and store them for 2 days. (it ain't too hard to rinse/wash a pot using a bit of warm water from one of the sinks that are available...I usually do this, and since I live locally, I usually bring some main dish with meat)

The important thing is that we throw out trash and uneaten food that would spoil and NOT leave it out Friday night. Try to be responsable for YOUR contribution and leftovers (if any)...even if you go to bed early)

As was mentioned above, there is usually a LOT of food, so those travelling long distances under inconvenient circumstances should not worry. (Last year, Homeless and his friend rode up with me from BWI airport, and we stopped at big store and went to the deli section so he could pick up a few things...worked out fine!)..

No one will go hungry!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 11:29 AM

Careful, there, Kendall.

Food's mighty good in Hillsborough, NC. Tonight we're having homegrown ribeye steaks in bourbon/ginger marinade, fettucine alfredo that would rival Rome's, the best Philly cheesesteak south of the Mason-Dixon line, fresh summer tomatoes and grilled eggplant.....

The James Pharmacy Restaurant kicks culinary ass, and there are plenty of kitchens in America that can hold their own. You just got to know where to look!

Good and bad everywhere, just the same as with the music. And if we'd quit paying for garbage (food and music) and made sure great musicians like yourself and some other folks around here made all the money, well, we'd finally get our priorities straight!

Dani

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Allan C.
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 10:25 AM

Yeah, yeah, Kendall. But can they make decent fried chicken, Brunswick stew, frybread or jambalaya? We have some mighty fine food available here that is not usually found elsewhere.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 10:15 AM

I've had some less than exciting meals in Britain, and I've had some excellent ones too. The broiled salmon in Edinburg was the best I ever had.
The thing is, our own cuisine is not up to snuff when compared to French, or even German cuisine.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 10:10 AM

Sure, like Benny Hill?

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:57 AM

cheese! bring cheese! You guys have access to so many more varieties than we do! Bring cheese! Please?

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Allan C.
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:48 AM

Regarding Snuffy's question about what can be brought into the USA, here is the straight poop, copied directly from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection website:

Tobacco Products

You may include in your personal exemption not more than 200 cigarettes (one carton) or 50 cigars or two kilograms (4.4 lbs.) of smoking tobacco, or proportionate amounts of each. An additional 100 cigars may be brought in under your gift exemption.

Alcoholic Beverages

Nonresidents who are at least 21 years old may bring in, free of duty and Internal Revenue Tax, up to one liter of alcoholic beverage--beer, wine, liquor--for personal use. Quantities above the one-liter limitation are subject to duty and internal revenue tax.

In addition to federal laws, you must also meet state alcoholic beverage laws, which may be more restrictive than federal laws. This means that if the state in which you arrive permits less liquor, wine, or beer than you have legally brought into the United States, that state's laws apply to your importation of alcoholic beverages for personal use.

Gift Exemptions

As a nonresident, you are allowed up to $100 worth of merchandise, free of duty and internal revenue tax, as gifts for other people. To claim this exemption, you must remain in the United States for at least 72 hours, and the gifts must accompany you. Do not gift-wrap your articles because they must be available for Customs inspection.

Food Products

Bakery items and all cured cheeses are admissible. The USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) publishes a pamphlet called Travelers Tips, which offers detailed information on bringing food, plant, and animal products into this country. Imported foods are also subject to requirements of the Food and Drug Administration.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Snuffy
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:30 AM

Like American Humour?

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 09:21 AM

British food is an oxymoron.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Snuffy
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 08:49 AM

Are there health or customs restrictions on bringing British foodstuffs into the USA?

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 08:30 AM

That's for the friday night potluck - and I think you would be forgiven for not bringing something if you make it from Guam to MD!!!! (speaking strictly for myself of course...)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Jeri
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 08:27 AM

Naemie, it's not a big deal if you can't bring food - there's usually tons. It takes me a long time to get there, so I usually bring chips or something that's just open-and-eat.

Mike the Alaska Guy, I don't mind if you bring smoked salmon. I'll eat it. (Yum!) Other people might like some, so maybe you'll want to bring extra for them.

Songs from/about the frozen north...could be Alaska, could be Greenland. Rita, you got enough ideas yet?

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 03:35 AM

Oh! Are we supposed to bring food as well? I guess I'd really better read that website.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,Alaska Guy
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 02:36 AM

Hey Sinsull, I will try to bring you a bit of Alaska sky, but you will have to promise to keep it clean and fresh and pollution free. I might bring some smoked salmon for the potluck too. Hope nobody minds.

Mike

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 07:08 PM

If this is turning into a wishlist. I want a chunk of sky from Alaska.
I will have a fairly good sized cooler which also functons as my chair. Blue icepacks keep things frozen in there for days.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 06:21 PM

Maybe a test... Three chunks of wood and you figure out which one didn't come from Guam.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 11:51 AM

Brett..I can use anything from a one inch cube on up! ...so don't fret size! (But customs might reject anything with bark on it or little holes...bug problems)Yes...chunks are better, though. (I have even turned good stuff from the outer layers of some Palm trees!)

Fortunato...around here, naughty boys are in charge..*grin*...bad HUSBANDS get beaten! (family in joke for 15-20 years)

(I sure am littering this thread with extraneous stuff...maybe we better PM the side issues!)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Fortunato
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 08:08 AM

Yes, Bill, but then you like the little whippings you get, don't you, you little dickens? Naughty boys must be DISCIPLINED.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 03:15 AM

Hmmm, a piece of wood. There are so many kinds. I'll talk to the guys in the Traditional Seafarer's Society and see what we can come up with.

If memory serves you do some fancy lathe work so length isn't an issue is it? You'd rather have a chunk instead of a plank? My duffel bag is 36" long so, depending on what else I bring I could fit a pretty good chunk in it.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 12:12 AM

ok, one spare cooler noted...you can bring be a piece of wood from Guam for the rent! *grin* (no, that is not a demand..I just troll and see what is possible)

well, as to planning, some of these folks have been coming for so many years and know the routines so well that we 'could' all just show up and have fun without detailed planning ....but Charlie Baum (currently) makes sure we & the camp know what to expect from each other, and Rita and her helper(s) figger out how to schedule things so NO ONE misses anything and EVERYONE gets their 15 minutes of fame..(yeah, right...enough talent and offers of ideas for 3 months worth of workshops... to fit into one weekend!)

as for Rita, she will be home tomorrow night from her trip and will be up to her neck in planning details of workshops for the next few weeks..(final schedule is always being tweaked until the last minute, but most workshop titles/themes get published and posted so that folks have a few weeks to think about it)

(boy, Rita is gonna shake her poor head when she tries to read all this stuff and sort it out...and she just beats me when the frustration level gets too high..*grin*)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 11:35 PM

So, when's the new schedule coming out, huh, huh?

Pacing the floor waiting...

Still pacing...

And pacing...

By the by, thanks for all the offers of cooler space. Bill, I'll take you up on one of your extra coolers. I'm not really much of a beer drinker but I'll throw some other stuff in there as well. Plus I'll have my 19 year old daughter (new Mudcatter Tenjiro) with me and she may want to throw some stuff in there as well. I will arrive with ice and grocery bags. Just stick my name on a label on the cooler and I'll load it up when I find it. That way I won't have to distract you while you're trying to organize this shindig. Must be kinda like herding cats, lotsa cats.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 11:24 PM

go to the page noted on 25 July, 1:00PM, Mike and read all the 'stuff' *grin*(you need to scroll to the bottom and click on 'later events', I think)...short answer is, you do NOT need to join, but the price is different. You are welcome to join, and we have a number of out-of-town members, though not usually from THAT far out! You'd get a newsletter, but whether it would be worth it to you is problematical.

We do have some space available for crafts, in a very informal manner. (There is a space/room... between the dining room and one music venue... where CDs are sold by Camsco records and various folk (including Rita & I) put some of our crafts on tables and sort of abandon them until we are accosted by someone who wants to buy them..(or not...*grin*)..so, if your wife does that sort of crafts, think about it. The music is the point of all this effort, but this crafts thing has kind of grown in the last few years..mostly because this room is there.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,Alaska Guy
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:54 PM

OK, the wife and I are going to the Getaway. Now I need info on fees, schedules, sign ups, etc. etc. Can we help out in any way? My wife, Tawmmie, is a GREAT crafts person and I've been known to sing now and again. Do we need to join FSGW? We live in Alaska so probably will miss most of the events during the year. Unless you guys want to have one up here. We could start a sub-group called the Folklore Society of Way Greater Washington. Can't wait to meet you guys and share in this fabulous weekend.

Mike

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: momnopp
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 11:27 AM

To all you whiners -- instead of saying, "I can't" how about trying on this phrase:

"How can I ______?" In this case, the blank could be "figure out a way to get myself to the Getaway so I can thoroughly enjoy myself."

I recommend repeating this multiple times; particularly as you go to sleep at night; this gives your brain a chance to come up with an answer while you're not busy coming up with excuses.

BTW, this works with pretty much anything: How can I bring more love into my life? How can I memorize this song? How can I learn to relax more? How can I earn $20,000 a year more than I am now? You get the idea. (Please note that the phrases are in an affirmative format, not, "How can I stop forgetting this song?" because then the focus becomes "forgetting this song")

I'm quite serious about this -- you will be amazed at what you can do with your brain if you will just get out of its way sometimes. Some of us are so skilled at figuring out ways to NOT get things in our lives that we don't even realize we're doing it.



Hope to see many, many, many of you at the Getaway!

Peace, love and music,

JudyO

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 02:17 PM

If 'AlaskaGuy' is the Mike I think he is, you people are in for a treat. He is a big guy, and his voice is proportional. It is low and powerful and rich. Have a good trip, Mike.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 01:30 PM

about coolers...I have 'about' 27..(well, seems that way) I can stick a couple extra in the van..IF it still seems necessary in October..we will re-visit this issue as the time approaches...perhaps a separate thread on "what help do travelers need from locals"