MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]

Subject: RE: MOAB - Changing Thread Title In-post
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 11:18 AM

Woweeee! I never realised it was possible until Don did it at 10:03 AM

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 11:41 AM

He does it all of the time. And sometimes it happens when a moderator moves a post from one thread to another when it was accidentally posted in the wrong place. The old title moves along with everything else.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 12:17 PM

Einstein experienced deep time when he felt the merging of past present and future with such awe, he called it just 'being' in the most profound sense of the word. He was so close to the missing element of physics that I suspect he was too embarrassed to admit the obvious. That sense of deep time can also be called the sacred awe.
You may find it at the nexus of science and religion in an authentic consciousness.

Seeing completely is a symptom of this special consciousness.
You could watch a flower and a fly walking about when a hummingbird, with the wind and flutter of its wings buffeting the flower but the fly does not fly away by instinct. Instead, it stays on the flower as if it sees the hummingbird as no threat and reasons that it need not dart away.

One has to look for consciousness in all life to see it. Where you see deeply you may be surprised but you are not crazy. You are just seeing with renewed eyes. What might come along with seeing deeply, no matter how big or small, can be the surprise of how unconscious some people can be.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 12:21 PM

Thanks Maggie - I learn something new every day, even at my advanced age!

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 10:29 AM

Epiphaney's come in all shapes and sizes but a barrier to discovery are those without curiosity who are as good as dead. Other barriers we probably all have are self-assurance based on limited data and/or fear.

Some folks do crosswords and Wordle for mental exercise, but I write therefore I am.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 08:25 PM

Think what you like. The Galactic Overlord doesn't care. The GO only cares that you are protein.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 23 - 07:05 AM

That is misinformation from the 1960s. GOs don't need protein. While we run on ATP Adenosine Triphosphate, They run on 110 volts. For dessert, they make a delicious iron-based mousse from cattle blood.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 23 - 02:35 PM

Furthermore, the GO do care and only understand us too well.
Nearly every answer we derive eventually needs changing. The GO have seen this and even recognizes we are most invested in the mystery and not the conclusion. They have maintained the mystery for our benefit, sometimes at great sacrifice or risk.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Oct 23 - 05:21 PM

Galactic Overlords eat their young, kick puppies, and in general behave rather badly.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Oct 23 - 07:10 AM

It is a mistake to judge the GO by human standards. The boys upstairs have very different intentions and uncontrolled impulses. An extra billion years of evolution makes a big difference.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 23 - 12:54 PM

You see, GO's recognize our species as still intrinsically dependent on wilderness and wilderness rules. They on the other hand, living in artificial and bounded environments developed a different life plan for survival.

Our mistake could be called anthropomorphic, projecting our feelings and understanding on other species.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 23 - 01:31 PM

Is a contrary contrarian someone who goes along to get along?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Oct 23 - 09:10 PM

I went along to get along, and my spurs went jingle jangle jingle, and I got them little dogies along.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Oct 23 - 06:32 PM

Time to help MOM upstairs to the head of the queue.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Oct 23 - 07:23 AM

Deep in the bowels of the CIA at Langly, there is an appendix lab that works on 'humane' torture. They have had a breakthrough in their development of a hybrid of Platypus venom combined with fire ant venom

The unequaled pain can last from 2 days to 2 weeks. It far exceeds pulling out fingernails, breaking thumbs, or burning out eyes yet does not significantly maim or cause death. It is being promoted as a humane political tool that works better than Putin's methods. The fact that not even morphine can relieve the pain is seen as its great advantage.
Technicians have nick-named it 'bottled hell'.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Oct 23 - 07:41 AM

Wouldn't you know it, DARPA is already working on battlefield applications for bottled hell.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Oct 23 - 08:44 AM

I wouldn't have known if DARPA was involved but they are having a hard time finding volunteers for their 'ultimate torture' tests so they advertised in-house. This struck so many people as funny or a joke, that it got leaked.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Oct 23 - 09:26 PM

Well Mom, you know that in six day I'm flying away from this hole in the mountains. First I will visit my family in the Midwest, and then I'm flying to Norway for another session of looting and plundering. The reason I'm going to see family is to take orders for the looting, etc. But I'll be able to check in now and then, so be careful, okay?

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 23 - 07:16 AM

No more playing slip and slide on the stairs this trip.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 23 - 07:35 AM

When galaxies hug

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Oct 23 - 05:28 PM

While Rapparee is getting ready to loot and plunder,
let's get MOM up to the top of the queue.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 23 - 05:32 PM

Looting and plundering is easy, it's the smuggling that's hard.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Oct 23 - 07:46 PM

They all have a price to look the other way. It might be gold or the skulls of their enemies or simply not having their home looted and burned to the ground.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Oct 23 - 01:49 PM

Kjære mamma, i morgen reiser jeg til Midtvesten og Norge! I'll be checking in now and then, even when I'm outa da country and I'll be that until I return on November 29. Let's all hope the international situation gets better, or at least not any worse.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat spammed again
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Nov 23 - 06:12 AM

MOAB is next to fall into the SERVER ERROR abyss.

Wynken, Blynken, and Nod

NOT Eugene Field
1850 – 1895


With a wink, Blinken Nods one night
   Sailed off in a metal ship,—
Sailed on a river of crystal light
   Into a sea of Jews.
"Where are you going, and what do you wish?"
   The old man asked with glee.
"I have come WITH A NUCLEAR SUB
   That swims in this beautiful sea;
   Nets of silver and gold have we,"
            Said
            Blinken
            And Nods.
So shut your eyes while leaders sing
Of horrible fights that be,
And you shall dream of beautiful peace
   As you rock in the misty sea
   Where the old wars rocked the statesman speaks
            said
            Blinken,with a wink
            and a nod.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Nov 23 - 07:27 PM

The new MOAB thread has a new location since an error message occurs if you try to post in this thread.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Sep 23 - 06:44 PM

Mudcat will be 24. I didn't post till a month later... but I 'may' be the longest lasting regular..or semi-regular... still posting.
I mean the last one who posted in Nov. 96     I feel it, too!

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Aug 23 - 01:55 PM

Democracy Now song list

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 23 - 05:09 AM

Houston, we have a problem. THE PUBLIC SCHOOL LIBRARIES ARE CLOSED AND REPURPOSED as detention punishment centers.
This is a strategic victory for the right wing. Good luck with your adult religious education. Perhaps you think this war on LIBRARIES, WOKE AND BOOKS is a hoax. Its not a hoax for kids.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 23 - 07:28 AM

Why do totalitarian movements target culture and books?
Previous attempts

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 23 - 08:55 AM

Instead of back to the future, some parts of the country are going Forward to the Past.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 23 - 12:11 PM

I have (MOM) Memories Of Monsters
Some people don't and others don't care.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 23 - 07:47 AM

Rap and I are like book ends. He probably has associations with Quilts of Valor and I am with the Linus Project.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Sep 23 - 06:18 PM

Every now and then I think you might like to hear something from us
(Left a good job back in the eighties)
Nice and easy
But there's just one thing, you see (workin' for myself every night and day)
We never ever did nothin'
(But I never lost one minute of sleepin') nice and easy
We always do it nice and rough
(Worryin' 'bout the way that things might've been)
And we're gonna take the beginning of this song and do it easy
(Big deal keep on turnin')
But then we're gonna do the finish rough
(Your keyboard keep on burnin') this is the way we do "the social"
And they're trollin', trollin'
trollin' on the puter
Listen to the story now
Left a good job back in the eighties
Workin' for myself every night and day
And I never lost one minute of sleepin'
I was worryin' 'bout the way that things might've been
Big deal keep on turnin'
Ooh, your keyboard keep on burnin'
And you're trollin' (trollin'), trollin', yeah (trollin')
trollin' on the puter (trollin' on the puter)
Cleaned a lot of plates in Memphis
And I pumped a lot of 'tane down in New Orleans
But I never saw the good side of the city
Until I hitched a ride on the mental health bus
You know the big deal keep on turnin'
Proud people keep on burnin'
And we're trollin' (trollin'), trollin', yeah (trollin')
Trollin' on the puter (trollin' on the puter)
Say we're trollin' (trollin'), trollin' (trollin')
Trollin' on the puter (trollin' on the puter)
Oh, I left a good job in the city
Workin' for the man every night and day
And I never lost one minute of sleepin'
Worryin' 'bout the way things might have been
Big deal keep on turnin' (turnin')
Proud ass holes keep on burnin' (burnin')
Trollin' (yeah), trollin' (alright)
Trollin' on the puter (go 'head now)
Trollin' (oh), say we're trollin' (yeah)
Trollin' on the puter
We're up, do do do do do do do do do do do
Alright
Cleaned a lot of plates in Memphis, y'all
Pumped a lot of 'tane down in New Orleans
But I never saw the good side of the city
'Til I hitched a ride on the mental health bus
Big wheels keep on turnin' (turnin')
Proud people keep on burnin' (burnin')
Trollin' (oh), trollin' (yeah)
Trollin' on the puter (go 'head now)
Say we're trollin', trollin'
Trollin' on the puter
We're up, do do do do do do do do do do do
Alright
Yeah
Ooh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Alright, yeah, yeah, yeah
Ooh yeah, yeah
If you sit down to the puter
Now, I bet you gonna find some people who live
You don't have to worry if you got no money
The people on the puter are happy to give
Big wheels keep on turnin' (turnin')
Proud people keep on burnin' (burnin')
Trollin' (yeah), say we trollin' (yeah)
Trollin' on the puter (alright now)
Trollin', trollin'
Rollin' on the puter
We're up, do do do do do do do do do do do
Woo
Alright
Woo, alright, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Trollin', alright
Alright now, yeah
Trollin' (yeah), trollin' (uh-huh)
Trollin' on the puter (give me one more time)
Trollin' (yeah), trollin' (woo-wee)
Trollin' on the puter
Trollin' (ow), trollin' (yeah)
Trollin' on the puter
Trollin' (yeah), trollin'

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 23 - 08:50 AM

Idaho has very few couch potatoes but Davenport Iowa...

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Sep 23 - 12:45 PM

Old soldiers never die, they just fade away.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Sep 23 - 05:52 PM

In honor of Rapparee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqbk9cDX0l0

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Sep 23 - 05:40 PM

I could be wrong but I doubt if height weight and blood pressure will solve cold cases, catch serial killers, or entice hackers.

The intent was for folks to brag or complain.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Sep 23 - 03:06 PM

In 1976 because of a full lunar eclipse, I saw an enormous impact on the moon. The debris behaved much like a droplet of water with the aftereffect of a secondary backsplash. I did not suspect Galactic Overlords.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Sep 23 - 08:47 AM

You could editorialize the social changes, expertise, empathy, and quality of posts that have changed over a quarter century if there are any.


Today its more rare for current threads to turn into a Republican debate of shouting chaos. I think there is a persistent reason why certain brains wire themselves to troll and stigmatize free thought. We all create the brain we have throughout our entire life via brain plasticity and our own thoughts.
"Neurons that fire together, wire together."

Freud and later Hebb introduced this idea but that is only half the story. There is also a garden-like pruning of connectedness and waste, "if you don't sync you lose the link." Pruning our brains occurs in sleep with microglial cells.

Self-directed practiced thought can acquire skills in music, geometry, and virtually anything possible in a positive or a negative direction.
Some may practice free thought and some practice the opposite.

Metaphorically, I will be catching up on some sleep.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Sep 23 - 06:48 AM

Words have fallen here like autumn leaves
from musicians now silent forever.
The colorful are saved before the freeze
in the wind of our memories.

Rick Fielding, Catspaw, Cat Laughing and Amos
were loved because they loved.
It does not matter if they were rich or famous
While they fade they still frame us.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Sep 23 - 10:19 AM

Diane Feinstein has climbed the golden staircase and crossed the river of Styx. She bought the farm and danced her last dance. She is on her never-ending highway driving a wooden Buick. She is at room temperature and will begin her career as a root inspector. On her final flight, she has fallen from her perch. She is the epitome of integrity.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Oct 23 - 08:37 AM

Of the 715 atmospheric nuclear 'tests', 20 were high-altitude nuclear explosions as immense as 1,400 megatons.

This resulted in more cancer, atmospheric damage and some issues that have proved too controversial for some people here to believe.
The EMP from one such 'test' resulted in a total blackout in Hawaii.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 06:44 PM

As long as we do not know how to SLIGHTLY phase out of current time while still hiding in plain sight, we will never find GOLs.

Subject: BS: What science forgot
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 07:40 PM

consciousness

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 23 - 06:39 AM

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2310/Hourglass_HubblePathak_1080.jpg

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of New Physics
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 10:03 AM

Most of us are aware that not even Einstein could unite Quantum Mechanics with General Relativity. Something fundamental was missing.
For a couple hundred years smallism dominated the search to find ever more fundamental qualities of the universe. The rabbit hole of smallism is string theory and is stuck in the complexity of multiple dimensions of an unknown number.

Maxwell found that electromagnetism could not be explained by the fundamentals of mass, energy and space so he sought fundamental laws for just EM. He gave us the fundamental equations that only deal with electrodynamics. In a similar way we need to apply this fundamental search for only the missing/uniting qualities of the universe.

That search brings us to the crazy idea in which we are all immersed, like water is to fish. That fundamental quality is Consciousness. Some scientists cried 'This is impossible since science is objective and consciousness is subjective'. Of course, materialistic science is objective but look at the clues of quantum mechanics with all possible paths.

A theory of consciousness is emerging slowly today with the help of Penrose and others but the idea has been around for a very long time.
The theories so far apply to any place where information is transferred. New organelles of brain tissue are demonstrating the theory of panpsychism when two organelles fuse together on their own.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 23 - 12:17 PM

Einstein experienced deep time when he felt the merging of past present and future with such awe, he called it just 'being' in the most profound sense of the word. He was so close to the missing element of physics that I suspect he was too embarrassed to admit the obvious. That sense of deep time can also be called the sacred awe.
You may find it at the nexus of science and religion in an authentic consciousness.

Seeing completely is a symptom of this special consciousness.
You could watch a flower and a fly walking about when a hummingbird, with the wind and flutter of its wings buffeting the flower but the fly does not fly away by instinct. Instead, it stays on the flower as if it sees the hummingbird as no threat and reasons that it need not dart away.

One has to look for consciousness in all life to see it. Where you see deeply you may be surprised but you are not crazy. You are just seeing with renewed eyes. What might come along with seeing deeply, no matter how big or small, can be the surprise of how unconscious some people can be.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 23 - 10:29 AM

Epiphaney's come in all shapes and sizes but a barrier to discovery are those without curiosity who are as good as dead. Other barriers we probably all have are self-assurance based on limited data and/or fear.

Some folks do crosswords and Wordle for mental exercise, but I write therefore I am.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 23 - 07:05 AM

That is misinformation from the 1960s. GOs don't need protein. While we run on ATP Adenosine Triphosphate, They run on 110 volts. For dessert, they make a delicious iron-based mousse from cattle blood.