2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bert
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 11:49 AM

A 5 day Getaway Bill, Just make it a month and have done with it.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: DonD
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 11:55 AM

Doesn't thje Getaway sound wonderful!?! I and countless others wouldn't know, never having been to one. It's easy to feel like an outsider, a pennyless kid with his nose pressed to the candy store window or the two-left-feet non-athlete who gets left out of both choose-up teams.

Wouldn't it be considerate to address something to those who aren't in the "in' crowd? When is the Getaway? How long does it last? Where is it? What's it cost? What are the accommodations and meal possibilities?

Reach out! Share the wealth! Thanks.

Don

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 12:05 PM

don - type "getaway" into the filter and set the wayback machine to "all" - you will get a good "feel" for the whole thing if you read the previous threads.

I believe we've got four years worth of threads on it.

But it's in October - it's very roughly about 150 US for three days and it is INCREDIBLE! Currently being held at Camp Rambleaway in MD.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Snuffy
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 12:14 PM

Join the Shellbacks for a 10-day Getaway, Don. We're going to the NY Getaway the following weekend, and singing most days in between, including (IIRC) NYC and Mystic.

With that schedule we may need reinforcements! :-)

WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 01:00 PM

MMario, Camp Rambleaway is the one with woodbine & ivy growing all around the door. They moved. It was poison ivy, and no one could stand all that prittle-prattling. Camp RambleWOOD is where one Getsaway.

Don, the FSGW* Getaway page is here. Most of the specific stuff (guests, schedules, etc) is from last year because this year's is in the planning stages now.

*Folklore Society of Greater Washington

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 01:07 PM

DonD..the 'Getaway' is the annual gathering of the Folklore Society of Greater Washington (FSGW) (details here)

it gets talked about a lot here, as it is on the east coast of the USA, near where Mudcat started and is usually attended by some of the regulars here....it is easy to forget that we have new people each year. We don't intend to sound like an 'in' group, and if any new folks can make it, the camp will hold twice as many people as usually show up in Oct.

It is sort of becoming a tradition for some, and there are west coast gatherings, as well as English and Australian gatherings that are heading toward a similar "place to meet other Mudcatters" status.

keep reading, and see if it fits your schedule!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 01:34 PM

"Camp RambleWOOD is where one Getsaway." (also called Camp Escher by some, as it does seem like it is uphill to everything at times..(the dining hall, where EVERYONE goes, is at the lowest point, and varying degrees of hills to other points)....

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 01:38 PM

Have I mentioned lately that my brain cell has gone missing?

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Vixen
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 02:49 PM

Alas! Alack! and Woe is Us...

Vixen and Reynaud won't be able to make it because we're booked to play a Renaissance Faire....

Hopefully we'll catch up with folks at NOMAD...

V

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 03:45 PM

"Alas! Alack! and Woe is Us.." yep...that is one lass we'll surely lack! Much to our dismay! *tsk*.... mebbe next year!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Ferrara
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 05:22 PM

DonD, I do apologize, should have given general info. Someone has brought up the 1999 thread which has some general info that may give the flavor of the event. This year it will be October 17-20. Camp Ramblewood is in Maryland, near the Pennsylvania border I think, the closest major towns are Aberdeen and Havre de Grace.

I'll try to start a general information thread, pulling together some of the details from earlier threads. It may not happen until I finish my "traveling" though.

I have been taken by surprise by the number of people who have posted on this thread in a very short time! It's wonderful and they are mostly grand ideas. I don't know if you all have been counting, I haven't, but I think we already have enough suggestions for at least four days of music!

If any of you are especially interested in any of the topics suggested, please PM me.

I can't promise that you'll end up leading your first choice. We try to make the most of the varied talents among the people who attend each year. Many of us are so multi-talented that they could lead any of several workshops. That helps me because then I can have a pool of people to call on and I can juggle workshops and leaders as needed.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Fortunato
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 06:10 PM

Rita, how about:

"Oh, Brother Where Art Thou": Songs they SHOULD have sung.
               or
"Nude Folk Singing, intermediate"
               or
"The Banjo, birth control and existentialism"

Well, the first one was serious, then I got carried away.

Chance and Susette plan to be there.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Ferrara
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 06:35 PM

DonD, for general information and an invitation to (last year's) Getaway, read the first post on this thread: FSGW Getaway 2002 Once I reach Charlie Baum, I'll ask him to bring it up to date for 2003. I can't do the attractive formatting that he did....

Fortunato, thanks for your imaginative and original suggestions, I will give them all the consideration they deserve.

I've started summarizing the suggestions and other info from this thread, will put it on our web page when I have it done.

Rita F

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 25 Jul 03 - 10:02 PM

Barry: "Transportation to & from anywhere" -- Ooooh, I could cause all sorts of mischief with that topic... 8-)

Rita: It just occurred to me that a Stan Rogers session would be appropriate. We're coming up on the 20th anniversary of his death.

-- Gary

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 11:36 PM

I don't dare get excited but I just realized that I may be at a two week class at Fort Belvoir in October. And the Getaway weekend is the weekend bracketed by that class. Which means (dare I hope?) that I might be going to the Getaway!

It will be a while before I know for sure. However, if I will be there I am willing to participate in the Stan Rogers workshop. And, if I put my mind and heart into it I should have a few Chamorro chants to share.

Fingers are crossed!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Snuffy
Date: 30 Jul 03 - 08:28 AM

How about a "I never knew that was a Child Ballad" workshop, looking at some of the songs that survived in the tradition but in a very altered and/or shortened state. Things like I'm A Rover, Seldom Sober (The Grey Cock), and Weile, weile, waile (The Cruel Mother). Many other example from both sides of the Atlantic.

WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 08 Aug 03 - 12:55 AM

OK, I can get excited now! I am in the class and will be in the area on that weekend.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Aug 03 - 09:37 AM

Do you have the weekend free though? Do we need to start scouting transport for you?

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Aug 03 - 09:56 AM

And bedding. I don't think you're going to want to carry a sleeping bag on an airplane, but I could be wrong. I'll bring at least one spare blankie.

I've brought extra blankets 2 out of the last 3 years and they were used. I SHOULD have brought some last year!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Aug 03 - 12:09 PM

likewise...I come in this BIG van, and I always have some extra blankets & pillows, etc. Do remember, though it can be purty chilly at night, so a sweatshirt or jacket that YOU like is a good thing to pack.

Sounds like quite a party!

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 08 Aug 03 - 07:56 PM

Chilly? What's that? I'll have to remember to pack the long sleeves and jackets. No shorts? I think I'm forgetting what it's like to wear long pants...

I have a little polar fleece sleep sack but an additional blanket would be welcome. I can always snag a pillow from the hotel room. As long as I return it I should be fine.

My biggest worry is that we will have some complicated homework assignment for the weekend. Could be a problem but not insurmountable.

As for transportation I hope to have a rental car. If not I will need to thumb a ride. That will work out as we get closer to that weekend.

Thanks for all the support. I am REALLY looking forward to this. I guess I'd better start working on learning some local music to share.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: bbc
Date: 09 Aug 03 - 09:11 AM

Hmmmm...Brett. Makes me think I should try to go, too.

bbc

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Allan C.
Date: 09 Aug 03 - 02:24 PM

H-how ab-bout one on overcoming s-s-stage fright?

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Aug 03 - 07:35 PM

Oh... that's a great idea. How about it, all you confident, capable, cool performers?

Dani

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 09 Aug 03 - 11:05 PM

You know I suffered from stage fright when I got started. But then, at a vocal recital I watched an 11 year old kid singing her heart out and realized that if I really want to be up there then I have no reason to be frightened of it. I haven't been nervous on stage since then.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,Claymore
Date: 10 Aug 03 - 06:23 PM

Rita, I sure enjoyed the Contra Dance band we did last year with the leadership of Bill D etc. If it is done again this year, we should put out a list of tunes to be practiced ahead of time. It might be best to see who could call the dance and then have that person give a general plan as to what dances would be called, (ex: two reels and a minor jig for one dance, a country waltz, etc). Then someone could do a thread to create a set-list for the dance.

If someone wanted to do a waltz evening we should do a set list thread for that one also.

I just did Open Band at the reopening of the Spanish Ballroom at Glen Echo and it was a ball. The new sound system still has some quirks to work out, but the building itself was grand to play in, the money wasn't bad, and I figure about 400 dancers showed up, to reopen the hall.

I suspect that if some of the folks who are essentially "Folk-Singers", but who are also good musicians, could understand they can make extra money playing at Contra Dances, they may decide to form a band and give it a try.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: alanww
Date: 11 Aug 03 - 11:19 AM

Having had my computer down for a while and having been away - at festivals(!) - for much of the rest of the time, I have just caught up with this thread ...

I am really looking forward to the Getaway - meeting new friends and swapping songs and perhaps even picking up some more ideas for playing my English concertina. I will be with the Shellbacks and so would be assumed to be an expert at shanties. But, as has already been said, there are a lot of different interests and talents in the Shellbacks.

Personally, I tend to sing more sea songs than shanties, usually those with big choruses with lots of possibilities for harmony singing. My overall repertoire could be considered a bit of this and a bit of that but I do like to sing traditional songs, if anything specialising in the big chorus song. I am just beginning to accompany myself on the concertina on appropriate occasions.

I also do a lot of songs of unrequited love and have written a separate PM to Ferrara about the possibility of such a workshop. Beginning to get excited ...!

"As I was a-walking down by the sea shore ...!"
Alan

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Aug 03 - 03:44 PM

in case anyone wonders why Rita (Ferrara) has not posted or replied 'recently'..she has been attending music workshops all week, and will be diving into this program in about a week from now..(she has good volunteer help to cope with it, too!)

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Ferrara
Date: 14 Aug 03 - 02:35 PM

Hi, everyone,

I'm home for just 2 days between vacation trips, have far too much to do before I leave again but just wanted to second what Bill said -- I'll be diving into the Getaway job in about a week or so.

August Vocal Week was a grand good time, and then I got to spend 2 days with friends in their old house in the mountains....

... and Naemanson, I hope very much that you'll be able to make it.

Rita Ferrara

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: momnopp
Date: 16 Aug 03 - 09:34 PM

Noreen -- you and I will have to talk -- I'd love to learn some tunes from you. This Getaway is going to be the best yet!

And geez, I obviously have not been following the Mudcat gossip at ALL! I totally missed the Allan and Morty pairing until now. So, I guess I'll have to give up my mad crush on Allan C. ~sigh~

Congrats, you two -- that's exciting news!!!

I will be there Dylan will be there if we can drum up any other miscellaneous silly folk, we'll drag them along, too! I can hardly wait...

JudyO

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,Alaska Guy
Date: 17 Aug 03 - 12:33 AM

This getaway sounds very cool. My wife and I will be vacationing in that neck of the woods during October and might be interested in sharing some Alaskan folk songs with you east coasties. When will there be some specific information about workshops, fees, etc. We are in the process of planning our vacation and could use some factual info. Thanks.

Mike Campbell
http://www.arctic.net/~mooseman

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Big Mick
Date: 17 Aug 03 - 02:11 PM

Mike, if you go to the top of the page and type "Getaway" into the "Lyrics and Knowledge" search box, then unclick the "DT" box, you will get a list of threads that have discussed this and other Getaways. Let me tell you that it is a very worthwhile weekend. I have been going ever since the great annual Mudcat migration started several years ago. I now save one week vacation for this event every year. These FSGW folks are wonderful hosts, great folkies, and loaded with every kind of talent imaginable. You will have ample opportunity to learn new things, share your knowledge and talent, and stay up all night long in the Mudcat cabin singing and enjoying the company of old friends just met. I travel from Michigan and would encourage you to avail yourself of this event. And who knows, but I am told a very large Irish American always brings a cooler of Guinness to share on Saturday night.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,Alaska Guy
Date: 17 Aug 03 - 03:09 PM

Thanks Mick, I've been going through some of the threads and have just about convinced myself to go. I perform all over Alaska throughout the year but seldom get to play in "the lower 48". We plan to fly into NYC for a couple of days, then rent a motorhome and travel around to D.C., Philly, Boston and wherever else our wandering wheels take us. BTW,I also am a very large Irish American and have been know to keep a large supply of good Porter in the fridge. I look forward to swapping lies, songs and beer with you.

Best wishes,

Mike

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 17 Aug 03 - 07:09 PM

Dont feel bad, Judy, some of us have to give up our crush on Terri too.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: momnopp
Date: 17 Aug 03 - 09:50 PM

Ah-hah, Kendall - I hadn't thought of it that way. . .

Ain't love grand? :-D

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Naemanson
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 02:18 AM

Hey! I have a serious problem! I can bring a sleeping bag and a pillow. And I have enough cool weather clothes. But I am goinng to need cooler space for the beer and sodas. Anyone got a big enough cooler to share? Willing to barter...

The only thing that will keep me away from this is if they cancel or reschedule the class I'm supposed to be at those two weeks. But let's not go there.

I just learned there are Chamorro chants used to lug the big outrigger canoes into the water. I need to learn one or two for this trip.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: kendall
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 08:15 AM

Judging from the weather there in October, you wont need a cooler.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 08:43 AM

Check out Ft. Belvoir Outdoor Rec's equipment rental list.

Mick usually brings a cooler the size of a small aircraft carrier, but he's got 'stuff' in it. Beer WILL get cool at night, but it will warm up during the day. You can pretend you're British though. There are drinks (tea, coffee, and '-ade') available in the main building/clubhouse throughout the weekend as well as ice (for drinks, not coolers).

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 08:49 AM

Mike Mick ,

You two fellows are going to have a grand time meeting and swapping songs, and perhaps sharing a cold brew. I am getting my annual attack of jealousy!!!
Have fun, y'all!!
KT

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Snuffy
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 09:01 AM

It's not a problem for you Merkins, but I don't think they'll allow us to bring much on the plane with us from Britain - the weight allowance ain't THAT generous.

WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Jeri
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 09:24 AM

I started 2003 FSGW Getaway - Travelers Needs because we've got people coming from all over and having the right/enough stuff seems to be a major concern.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Barry Finn
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 11:41 AM

Hi Brett

I usually bring a good size cooler (I end always end up over doing it) for soda, you can share the space or I can bring a smaller extra cooler (probably holds 24 cans). Just want a chant in return. See ya

Barry

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 12:23 PM

Brett, there will be room in my cooler as well. But I have a better idea. Let's just drink it before the sun comes up.....problem solved.

Mick

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 12:25 PM

KT.........GET UP OFF YER ROYAL BACKSIDE AND C'MON DOWN FOR THE WEEKEND. YOU WILL HAVE A BALL!!!

Mick

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 12:51 PM

Mick, you make it sound so easy. The gettin' up part isn't too tough yet, it's the quick litttle weekend jaunt that is the challenge!! No doubt I would love it!!   Hmmm.........Now you've gone and got me running for the website! KT

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 01:30 PM

about coolers...I have 'about' 27..(well, seems that way) I can stick a couple extra in the van..IF it still seems necessary in October..we will re-visit this issue as the time approaches...perhaps a separate thread on "what help do travelers need from locals"

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 02:17 PM

If 'AlaskaGuy' is the Mike I think he is, you people are in for a treat. He is a big guy, and his voice is proportional. It is low and powerful and rich. Have a good trip, Mike.

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: momnopp
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 11:27 AM

To all you whiners -- instead of saying, "I can't" how about trying on this phrase:

"How can I ______?" In this case, the blank could be "figure out a way to get myself to the Getaway so I can thoroughly enjoy myself."

I recommend repeating this multiple times; particularly as you go to sleep at night; this gives your brain a chance to come up with an answer while you're not busy coming up with excuses.

BTW, this works with pretty much anything: How can I bring more love into my life? How can I memorize this song? How can I learn to relax more? How can I earn $20,000 a year more than I am now? You get the idea. (Please note that the phrases are in an affirmative format, not, "How can I stop forgetting this song?" because then the focus becomes "forgetting this song")

I'm quite serious about this -- you will be amazed at what you can do with your brain if you will just get out of its way sometimes. Some of us are so skilled at figuring out ways to NOT get things in our lives that we don't even realize we're doing it.



Hope to see many, many, many of you at the Getaway!

Peace, love and music,

JudyO

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: GUEST,Alaska Guy
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:54 PM

OK, the wife and I are going to the Getaway. Now I need info on fees, schedules, sign ups, etc. etc. Can we help out in any way? My wife, Tawmmie, is a GREAT crafts person and I've been known to sing now and again. Do we need to join FSGW? We live in Alaska so probably will miss most of the events during the year. Unless you guys want to have one up here. We could start a sub-group called the Folklore Society of Way Greater Washington. Can't wait to meet you guys and share in this fabulous weekend.

Mike

Subject: RE: 2003 FSGW Getaway - ideas for program
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 11:24 PM

go to the page noted on 25 July, 1:00PM, Mike and read all the 'stuff' *grin*(you need to scroll to the bottom and click on 'later events', I think)...short answer is, you do NOT need to join, but the price is different. You are welcome to join, and we have a number of out-of-town members, though not usually from THAT far out! You'd get a newsletter, but whether it would be worth it to you is problematical.

We do have some space available for crafts, in a very informal manner. (There is a space/room... between the dining room and one music venue... where CDs are sold by Camsco records and various folk (including Rita & I) put some of our crafts on tables and sort of abandon them until we are accosted by someone who wants to buy them..(or not...*grin*)..so, if your wife does that sort of crafts, think about it. The music is the point of all this effort, but this crafts thing has kind of grown in the last few years..mostly because this room is there.