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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 May 12 - 04:27 AM

you are entitled to disagree, but i think you are talking cods wallop,
Mr Bulmer is someone who has for many years prevented interesting material from being available to the public, in my case against the artists wishes.
The contracts were never drawn up with Dave Bulmer, I certainly would not have signed a contract with him, he may or may not be legally entitle to do what he does, but what about morally?
you appear to be coming up coming up with a generalisation about businessmen
    it is interesting to note that some time ago one of his legal advisors was struck off.
    Please do not give the impression that all businessmen behave like Dave Bulmer they do not, in my experience only a few do, but most businessmen that i have encountered are in my experience more generous.
Effssee HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTS? if you havent you are not well informed, and I would suggest you buzz off, until you know what you are on about.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 27 May 12 - 04:12 AM

The trouble is, Bulmer's "lack of demand" argument is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've got no interest in buying a CD-R of Bright Phoebus from Bulmer in the knowledge that what I'd get would be a cheaply-produced CD-R with a single sheet of thin paper by way of 'booklet', and that none of the proceeds would go to the artists or their estates / families. The same goes in spades for paying Bulmer £30 for a copy of the original LP, as desirable an artifact as it is.

A remastered CD with a decent booklet, produced with the approval of George, Ann and the musicians who played on it, and with a standard royalty going to the families - I'd put my money down like a shot, and I'm sure lots of people here would too.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Effsee
Date: 26 May 12 - 10:47 PM

GSS:-

"I do not agree, it lets every new arrival on the folk scene know exactly what Bulmer has done "

Just what has he done?

He has a lot of these original LPs, purchased legally, in fact an awful lot of these.

They didn't exactly fly of the shelves in the first place!

Too many of us doing a bit of tape-recording maybe? :-(

But now he's being castigated for bringing them on market.

The original artists sold their rights to royalties in their original contracts.

Not Mr.Bulmer's concern...he's a businessman, not a charity.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 May 12 - 09:39 PM

would that be unsold new old stock of the defective "Bright Phoebus" reject LPs
with off centre spindle holes ???


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 May 12 - 05:07 PM

I do not agree, it lets every new arrival on the folk scene know exactly what Bulmer has done


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 26 May 12 - 05:03 PM

I really can't see the point in these threads about Dave Bulmer anymore, he doesn't give a shit about anybody here or what we all think, it's a huge waste of time and energy.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,CJ
Date: 26 May 12 - 04:09 PM

The Bright Phoebus description is rather wry:

Up for auction is a BRAND NEW copy of Bright Phoebus
this could be described as new old stock as it has sat safely on our shelves for a number of years and has never been played, it is in mint condition.

This classic album by Lal and Mike waterson has been considered a gem in the folk world since its relese and is now an extreamly rare record.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 26 May 12 - 12:09 PM

Had a reply - that was quick!

I assume it wasn't intended for publication, but I don't think I'm betraying any confidences if I say that Mr Bulmer (if it is he) is unrepentant.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 25 May 12 - 07:12 PM

this could be described as new old stock as it has sat safely in our warehouse for a number of years and has never been played, it is in mint condition.

There are several of these currently listed on eBay, including a number of hen's-teeth Leader/Trailer LPs - all priced at £30 or so.

I've just left the same message on four of the Leader/Trailer auctions, using the eBay "ask a question" facility:

Why aren't you giving these albums the CD release they deserve, with royalties paid to the artist?

Probably won't make any difference, but it made me feel better.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,xchopp
Date: 25 May 12 - 05:07 PM

Er, so can we finally buy Nic Jones' Devil to a Stranger anywhere? on vinyl? on CD?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Dita
Date: 28 Feb 12 - 08:42 AM

Where's WHAT beef Effsee, I was only pointing out a post, that might be of interest to some.

As a collecter/dealer I felt that the price was high and thought it unusual that they were being sold at a blanket price, not taking any account of rarity or Record Collecter book price.

It was posted in this thread, as the address given for the seller is Dave Bulmer's,and the albums are ones he owns rights to.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 26 Feb 12 - 05:52 AM

Because auctioning off individual in-demand items piecemeal makes you more money than supplying shops with stock (at a trade discount)?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Will Fly
Date: 26 Feb 12 - 05:38 AM

On eBay, the Clan Alba vinyl for sale from Celtic Visions is described as:

Up for auction is a BRAND NEW copy of CLAN ALBA LP by CLAN ALBA THIS IS A DOUBLE LP

[names of artists here]

this could be described as new old stock as it has sat safely in our warehouse for a number of years and has never been played, it is in mint condition.

This classic album by Clan Alba has been considered a gem in the world of folk rock music since its relese and is now a rare record, that is hard to come by especially NEW


What an interesting description - "brand new... new old stock". I wonder why it was sitting safely in a warehouse for a number of years, and why the time has now come to release it for sale.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Effsee
Date: 25 Feb 12 - 11:35 PM

So what is wrong with this?

The material is being made available to people who might be interested.
The price doesn't seem overblown compared with some,   i.e.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROY-HARPER-SOPHISTICATED-BEGGAR-VERY-RARE-UK-FOLK-SPARK-JHL-105-LP-1967-/220962436194?pt=UK_Records&hash=item3372633462

What's the beef?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Dita
Date: 25 Feb 12 - 10:14 PM

Just found an interesting listing on e-bay, under folk LPs. There is a number of brand new vinyl albums from Leader, Trailer, Black Crow, and a number of others including Clan Alba on vinyl, three pages in all, under the one dealer "yourpricemusic". Most of them are priced at £29.99 + £3.50 p&p. No surprise that they have not attracted any bids. The address of the dealer is, Celtic Visions, Northworks, Hookstone Park, Harrogate.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 15 Sep 10 - 02:29 PM

Andy. Easy.
ralph.jordan@ntlworld.com
That should do it!....Best to talk privately.
Wheels are turning (admittedly slowly!)
And Yes, the Sidmouth gig was amazing. It's all safely recorded.
Get in touch mate.
Cheers Ralphie


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin, I-O-M
Date: 15 Sep 10 - 07:01 AM

Hi again Ralphie, yes its been a while. I have been in the US for 14 months so am really out of touch these days.

Pls post a contact address (email pref) and I will write as you suggest.

Splendid news about Sidmouth - what a blast it must have been. Andy


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Ralphie
Date: 15 Sep 10 - 02:13 AM

Hi Andy. Long time no speak!
Putting Bulmer on one side for a moment. You'll no doubt be pleased to know that there was a tribute concert for Nic at Sidmouth this year.
Artists involved, Pete and Chris Coe,Chris Wood,Martin Simpson, James Fagan and Nancy Kerr,Paul Sartin,Faustus,
Jon Loomes,Ruth Notman,Jim Moray,Jon Boden,Jackie Oates and many more!!
And Nic turned up and sang...Joyous.
It's all recorded, and will probably see the light of day (after contractual stuff has been done)in the spring.
The main topic of conversation backstage was (Yes, you've guessed it!) The whole Celtic Music situation.
I think you can guess the attitude of all the artists involved in the gig with regard to Mr Bulmer.
We keep on, keeping on. Send me a PM, and we can communicate less publicly!
Regards Ralphie


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin, I-O-M
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 01:04 PM

Selectadisc. Now it would seem that there was only the shortest of honeymoon periods between the two new partners, one of which was Dave Bulmer.   Companies House reveals that on 13th July 2009 on the Company House form 288B         "APPOINTMENT TERMINATED DIRECTOR DAVID BULMER". Could be that somebody saw the light (or darkness)! Watch this space.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Rob
Date: 08 May 10 - 07:02 PM

Needless to say, the shop never re-opened. Not a surprise. Wonder if the rights to the Selectadisc name are now tied up in litigation?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 19 Aug 09 - 03:26 AM

Oh God.....Thought we were shot of this man.
He'll never reform, never do the decent thing.....I'm minded to ally him to the BNP apologist who stated "If those folk singers complain about the BNP.... tough....we'll continue to sell their product to raise funds for the party, and they can't do anything to stop us"
Sounds familiar?
Time to Join Folk against Fascism people.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Dita
Date: 19 Aug 09 - 02:45 AM

Bulmer had a shop in Glasgow. He turned up one weekend, with no notice, and emptied the contents into a van, leaving staff high and dry.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Surreysinger
Date: 15 May 09 - 07:05 AM

Here we go again?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: pavane
Date: 15 May 09 - 02:34 AM

An attempt to sign up new artists, who may not be aware of the MU blacklisting?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Tyke
Date: 14 May 09 - 11:13 AM

Mr B history seems to be that when nobody else wanted to buy Bankrupt stock Mr B put his money into buying it. Then years later when the grey pound funded by inflated house prices leaves people wanting to buy back their youth. Leaves some complaining about record catalogues that only exists only because of Mr B leaving the commercial decision of what to re release and when to him. I don't see anyone complaining about a restoration and re release of the EFDSS collection or the BBC Folk song archives.

Now Mr B seems to be re opening a well loved independent music store as our High Streets close shop after shop. As I understand it will also include a stage for impromptu concerts what a great idea. It should not only promote live artists and their work but also introduce those who attend to other artists whose work will be on sale in the shop.

What a great idea best wishes and all the best of Luck for the future!


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,John Braley
Date: 13 May 09 - 12:11 PM

The golden rule for anyone joining a business venture is the process of Due Diligence. Mr Cooper - being not a novice in such matters - will doubtless attend to this with seriousness. Track records are also very important and Mr Cooper will also doubtlessly have taken a prudent view on his new partner.

And then.... fingers crossed!


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Mauled Verb
Date: 07 May 09 - 07:10 AM

Good idea Don.

Except that I signed in, left a reasonably polite message suggesting that folks might want to make themselves aware of Mr B's history before getting too excited, and waited for it to appear on the page.

And waited... And waited....


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Don Scott.
Date: 02 May 09 - 05:37 PM

I see from the link there is a possibility to comment on this article, perhaps those who have good cause to dislike this loathsome individual should add a comment or two.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 May 09 - 07:02 AM

that statement could mean anything.
for example,many entrepreneurs,just believe in making money,I dont know if this applies to Dave Bulmer or not.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: michaelr
Date: 02 May 09 - 03:06 AM

"You have to believe in something, somewhere down the line," said Dave Bulmer, who will own the business with John Cooper.

Think he's reformed?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Mauled Verb
Date: 01 May 09 - 10:47 PM

I think so too Dick.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 May 09 - 10:23 AM

yes ,it could possibly be.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Mauled Verb
Date: 01 May 09 - 08:12 AM

Do you think this is the same Dave Bulmer??


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 10:37 AM

Wot! No hyperlink!


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Santa's Little Helper
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 02:28 PM

Hey Everyone, Had another great year dancing to the call of the lad from Harrogate. I just made a total elf of myself. Check me out by clicking the link below. Neil

http://www.elfyourself.com/?userid=6d7732e34273a183b372ed2G07010404


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:11 AM

Geoff the Duck quacked:

>You seem to have spotted more than one piece of information - some is relevant to this thread and some does not link to the subject under discussion.
>
>First, there seem to be CD Recordings of Nic Jones for sale - Your link to Amazon allows us to track down the [snip]
>They are both identified as the LEADER recordings which are part of the dispute over royalties.

But the point I was making was that MbM was also still listed as a supplier to Amazon, but actually judging by their website does not appear still to be trading. Thus there seems to be potential for Amazon to take money on their site for orders for goods from MbM and for customers not to receive the goods.
>
>The second thing you have spotted -
>http://www.musicbymail.co.uk/
>does appear to be connected with Mr. Bulmer.

Yes.

>The third item - http://www.celticmusic.co.uk/ appears to be a web address owned by http://www.oldbridgemusic.com/ .
>Old Bridge Music seems to be the music shop in Ilkley run by Chris and Mark Newman who are respected musicians. They are not part of Dave Bulmer's organisation.

Aaargh! A little/none-too-little matter of a sodding hyphen! Apologies to Chris, Mark, and OldBridge.

The address I *meant* to investigate was ...

http://www.celtic-music.co.uk/

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access to this document on this server.

Apache Server at musicbymail.co.uk

http://whois.domaintools.com/celtic-music.co.uk

Whois Record for Celtic-music.co.uk
Page Information
Record Type:         Domain Name
Whois Record

Domain name:
    celtic-music.co.uk

Registrant:
    Dave Bulmer

Trading as:
    Dave Bulmer

Registrant type:
    UK Individual

Registrant's address:
    North Works
    Hookstone Park
    Harrogate
    North Yorks
    HG2 7DB
    Harrogate
    North Yorks
    HG2 7DB
    GB

Registrant's agent:
    Fibranet Services Ltd [Tag = FIBRANET]

Relevant dates:
    Registered on: 08-Nov-1999
    Renewal date: 08-Nov-2007
    Last updated: 27-Sep-2005

Registration status:
    Registered until renewal date.

Name servers:
    ns1.ukdnsservers.co.uk
    ns2.ukdnsservers.co.uk

WHOIS lookup made at 06:47:46 19-Aug-2006

So, no new spinoff, except what Pandora Box found at Companies House.

Apologies to all for the false alarm.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 03:00 AM

Quite correct nickp.
Not quite sure that punity is a real word though!.
It's a bit like saying that the opposite of constitution, is prostitution! English Hey, what a language.
Back on track.
Yes, the Game Set Match CD has the full support of the family.
Wasn't involved myself, and will be interested to hear which alternative takes have been used. It's just a good thing to keep Nics work out there. particularly with the clout that Topic will bring.
As for all the Celtic Music stuff...Ah Well....It will sort itself out in the end.
So, Go out and buy Game Set Match, even if you've already got some of the tracks. I'm going to. And I've heard it all anyway. Sad or what!
Best to all Ralphie


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Scotus
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:02 PM

Dick - Is that the same as punishment?

Jack


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 08:24 PM

I guess that means you can buy the others with punity.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: nickp
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 01:10 PM

I guess it's on another thread but while people are reading this one:

Nic Jones - Game Set Match released on Topic on 2nd October with - as I understand it - approval of the Jones family. You can buy this one with impunity!

Nick


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 09:40 AM

The aforementioned Nic Jones titles on the Leader label are available from CAMSCO. If anyone has any reasonably firm evidence that royalties are not being paid (assuming that original contracts provided for such royalties), please let me know.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 07:40 AM

From: GUEST,Could have been anybody, really ... - PM

Guest -

You seem to have spotted more than one piece of information - some is relevant to this thread and some does not link to the subject under discussion.

First, there seem to be CD Recordings of Nic Jones for sale - Your link to Amazon allows us to track down the following :-
There are (apparently) new CDs on sale through Mound Music who seem to be the online identity of an Edinburgh music shop. Their online shop at Amazon has listed :-
Nic Jones [Audio CD] Jones, Nic
Ballads and Songs [Import] [Audio CD] Jones, Nic

Also on Amazon - Irish music store has the same two CDs listed.
BLICKY and
BLICKY2
They are both identified as the LEADER recordings which are part of the dispute over royalties.


The second thing you have spotted -
http://www.musicbymail.co.uk/
does appear to be connected with Mr. Bulmer.

The third item - http://www.celticmusic.co.uk/ appears to be a web address owned by http://www.oldbridgemusic.com/ .
Old Bridge Music seems to be the music shop in Ilkley run by Chris and Mark Newman who are respected musicians. They are not part of Dave Bulmer's organisation.
I assume they have bought the "celticmusic.co.uk" address because people looking for music within the "celtic" genre will be able to find their site (Old Bridge is unlikely to be found by a Google for music or celtic music). They may even have purchased it to prevent somebody else using it for trading (who knows?).
The web page you reach is basically one to redirect you to the Newmans' main pages. It contains the following disclaimer :-
"This is part of the Old Bridge Music website, and has no connection to any other UK based company." i.e. They are NOT part of CM Distribution (or whatever it was officially called).

Of course, what we would all like to see is the "lost" Leader recordings being released (so we can actually listen to them) and the recording artists being given their royalties for their work. I sincerely hope that these "new" CD releases are the start of that process. If not they would just be cynical profiteering.

Quack!
Geoff the Duck.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Pandora Box
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:53 AM

It seems also if Bulmer has registered another company (certainly its logo) in the UK Patents Office.   The Empire is getting bigger and bigger!!!!


Trade Marks Journal No. 6599 16 September 2005

(At this point there is the FOLK HERITAGE logo)

2396832 14 July 2005 (09)


Scientific, nautical, surveying, photographic, cinematographic, optical, weighing, measuring, signalling, checking (supervision), life-saving and teaching apparatus and instruments; apparatus and instruments for conducting, switching, transforming, accumulating, regulating or controlling electricity; apparatus for recording, transmission or reproduction of sound or images; magnetic data carriers, recording discs; data processing equipment and computers, computer hardware and firmware; computer software (including software downloadable from the Internet); compact discs; digital music (downloadable from the Internet); telecommunications apparatus; computer games equipment adapted for use with TV receivers; mouse mats; mobile phone accessories; contact lenses, spectacles and sunglasses.



David Robert Bulmer, Northworks, Hookstone Park, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, HG2 7DB.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 03:59 AM

Ignore last post- senior moment, wrong thread

Roger The Senile


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 03:58 AM

I thought the remastering may make it more listenable! I'd probably buy it for the Drop Down Baby track, if I could get hold of it!

RtS


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Could have been anybody, really ...
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 04:38 PM

Well now, what have we here? Looks like another CM spin-off has just been launched!

Music By Mail is still listed by Amazon (UK) as a supplier for "Ballads & Songs" ...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0006FQ5T4/ref=dp_olp_0/026-0015039-8344423?condition=all0


... yet appears to be defunct (BTW, note the registrant & administrative contact details for each site) ...


http://www.musicbymail.co.uk/

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Whois Record

Domain name:
    musicbymail.co.uk

Registrant:
    Calum Bulmer

Registrant type:
    Not supplied

Registrant's address:
    North Works, Hookstone Park
    Harrogate
    A1 1AA
    GB

Registrant's agent:
    Fibranet Services Ltd [Tag = FIBRANET]

Relevant dates:
    Registered on: 30-Sep-2003
    Renewal date: 30-Sep-2007
    Last updated: 27-Sep-2005

Registration status:
    Registered until renewal date.

Name servers:
    ns1.dnsjunction.com
    ns2.dnsjunction.com

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http://www.celticmusic.co.uk

welcome to celticmusic.co.uk! updated 25 August 2004

This is part of the Old Bridge Music website, and has no connection to any other UK based company.
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Whois Record

Domain name:
    celticmusic.co.uk

Registrant:
    Old Bridge Music

Registrant type:
    Not supplied

Administrative contact's address:
    PO Box 7
    Ilkley
    West Yorkshire
    LS29 9RY
    UK

Registrant's agent:
    NetNames Limited [Tag = NETNAMES]
    URL: http://www.netnames.co.uk

Relevant dates:
    Registered on: 01-Mar-1999
    Renewal date: 01-Mar-2007
    Last updated: 16-Feb-2005

Registration status:
    Registered until renewal date.

Name servers:
    ns1.netnames.net
    ns2.netnames.net

WHOIS lookup made at 17:50:11 15-Aug-2006


http://www.oldbridgemusic.com

Welcome to Old Bridge Music

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Whois Record for Oldbridgemusic.com
Page Information
Website Title:         Old Bridge Music
Record Type:         Domain Name
Meta Description:         chathasaigh, Chris Newman, guitar, harp, celtic, Irish, acoustic, Clive Carroll, Christy O'Leary,
Meta Keywords:         chathasaigh, Chris Newman, guitar, harp, celtic, Irish, acoustic, Clive Carroll, Christy O'Leary,
Server Data
Server Type:         Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.3.11 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7a FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_throttle/3.1.2
(Spry.com also uses Apache)
IP Address:         80.243.176.28 [Whois] [Ping] [DNS Lookup] [Traceroute]
IP Location:         United Kingdom - Reseller Hosting
Response Code:         206
Blacklist Status:         Clear
SSL Cert:         No valid SSL on this Host
Website Status:         Active
Reverse IP:         172 other sites hosted on this server

Registry Data
ICANN Registrar:         NETBENEFIT PLC AKA NETNAMES
Created:         01-Mar-1999
Expires:         01-Mar-2007
Registrar Status:         ACTIVE
Whois Server:         whois.netnames.com
Name Server:         NS2.ALTAIRE.NET
Whois History:         6 records have been archived
Whois Record


Registrant:

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Domain name: oldbridgemusic.com

Created on: 2005-02-16
Expires on: 2007-03-02


Administrative contact:
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+44 207 549 5355
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Technical contact:
Role Netnames Hostmaster
3rd Floor Prospero House
241 Borough High St.
London
SE1 1GA
UK
+44 (0)20 7015 9370
+44 (0)20 7015 9375
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Domain name servers:

ns1.altaire.net 80.243.176.25
ns2.altaire.net 80.243.177.101


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: sinpelo
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 08:43 PM

At the risk of being called a DB apologist's apologist, I think we ought to be a little more tolerant of conflicting views. I'm sifting through the DB threads because I want to find out as much as possible about the issue. Personally, I'd like DB himself to post here. I'd like to know what he has to say. Disagree by all means but don't try to censor. Let us have all viewpoints and allow us to make up our minds.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: sinpelo
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 06:48 AM

"Arn't there other more important issues in the UK or the world than this tired old kicked to death subject to concern "right minded" people? Like FAMINE,CHILD ABUSE, NATURAL DISASTERS AND TERRORISM, or have certain people nothing else to do?? "

Yes. These are discussed in forums under headings such as "FAMINE, CHILD ABUSE, NATURAL DISASTERS AND TERRORISM". However, I think you'll find most of the posts under the heading "Celtic Music, Dave Bulmer" tend to be about Celtic Music and Dave Bulmer.

I hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin, I-O-M
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 03:36 AM

The point is that Bulmer seems to represent all that is repugnant in the music business. He is a hang over from a time when artists were regularly screwed by record companies. The sheer number of complaints about his business ethics (or lack of them) is well documented. He is blackballed by the MU as a person/company NOT to do business with and has been for more than a decade. He operates a policy of single-minded unpleasantness to anyone that crosses him - and anyone that does will inevitably receive a threatening letter from his partner, Mr Sharpley. If you have read these threads you will know about Mr Sharpley. Is this the way that folk music and musicians derserve to be treated? In the 21st Century it would be nice to know that people and enterprises like those of Mr Bulmer act with decency and professionalism to artists - to ensure that they get royalties (for instance). As ever with this man nothing is that simple. But one day brother, KARMA, for sure.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: sinpelo
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 03:59 PM

I'm trying to understand how this works. As far as I can gather, DB has bought reproduction and distribution rights from labels that had gone into receivership. Does that require the artists to sign anything over to him? I would have thought that, if these were rights that were held by the labels rather than the individual artists, they would have no say in the matter. Or am I wrong? Feel free to call me a thicko if it helps.


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