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Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)

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pavane 06 Aug 13 - 03:19 PM
GUEST,Paul Heath. 07 Aug 13 - 04:56 AM
GUEST,Iain G 07 Aug 13 - 05:46 AM
GUEST,Ralphie 07 Aug 13 - 06:05 AM
GUEST,IainG 07 Aug 13 - 07:22 AM
GUEST,Danny. 07 Aug 13 - 07:51 AM
GUEST,kenny 07 Aug 13 - 08:11 AM
The Sandman 07 Aug 13 - 08:23 AM
Johnny J 07 Aug 13 - 08:30 AM
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Subject: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer
From: pavane
Date: 06 Aug 13 - 03:19 PM

Seems to be true, in case anyone missed it.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer
From: GUEST,Paul Heath.
Date: 07 Aug 13 - 04:56 AM

Seems nobody can think of anything nice to say about him.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer
From: GUEST,Iain G
Date: 07 Aug 13 - 05:46 AM

He was a superb Accordionist and I always got on very well with him

My thoughts are with his family


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 07 Aug 13 - 06:05 AM

Ian G. He might have been a good musician (Never saw him) But as a businessman he wasn't that good. It would be nice to see all the tapes returned to the original artists (Well, the ones who are still alive would be nice) Mind you, How many of the original tapes are still playable?


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer
From: GUEST,IainG
Date: 07 Aug 13 - 07:22 AM

Ralphie

I'm not going to enter into that debate, it has been going on for a very long time


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer
From: GUEST,Danny.
Date: 07 Aug 13 - 07:51 AM

I don't think Bulmer will be remembered for his accordian playing, but rather for the damage he did to his fellow musicians, the debate has indeed gone on for a long time, and I suspect will continue to do so untill there is a fair resolution to the situation.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 07 Aug 13 - 08:11 AM

Dave Bulmer used to come to Scotland to play at festivals in the 1970s, and played at Aberdeen Folk club on several occasions with John Doonan. He was one of the few piano-accordion players I ever had any time for, and was a good fiddle player too. I played tunes with him in those days, and enjoyed both his musicianship and company.
My condolences to his family.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Aug 13 - 08:23 AM

I agree with Ralphie.
furthermore, I would not care personally about any money, his relatives have in their possession a recording of the new mexborough concertina quartet,that has been suppressed for more than 20 years.   Dick Miles


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer
From: Johnny J
Date: 07 Aug 13 - 08:30 AM

Surely we can allow his family and friends a few days to mourn his passing and, by all means, deal with the other matters thereafter?

I knew the man only very superficially having bumped into him at festivals etc over the years. He was an excellent musician and accordion player and pleasant enough to me on the surface. Also, there was a time when he contributed much to the traditional music scene.

Although I had heard and read many unfavourable comments about him over the years, I still treated him as I found him on the infrequent occasions we met.

I would also like to offer my condolences to Dave's family and friends which must be a sad time for them.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Aug 13 - 08:31 AM

Well, executors and administrators have a duty to "get in" ie realise the estate so one infers that such rights as Bulmer pay PERSONALLY have had, insofar as not divested by operation of law eg those under contracts of personal confidence, ought to be offered for sale.

The rights vested in COMPANIES however are treated differently. A company exists until it is would up or struck off. But if Bulmer held shares then the shares might be put on the market, and if the companies are liquidated then the rights themselves may be put on the market.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Aug 13 - 06:30 PM

Dyslexic finger.

Does anyone have any details of when the funeral will be and where?


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 08 Aug 13 - 07:28 PM

I have twice tried to ask a question of a poster and although the posting was immediately available it has since disappeared.

Why is this?



You were needlessly rude and provocative. You received the answer about the funeral. If you want to be taken seriously, then either join the group or choose a guest moniker and use it consistently so we know who we are talking to. ----mudelf


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,jim bainbridge
Date: 09 Aug 13 - 03:47 PM

I knew Dave Bulmer from when he was a pupil at South Shields High School in th sixties, and helped run the school folk club which often featured the guest(s) who were booked at the nearby Marsden Inn club(the Spinners being one of these groups). I have met him from time to time over the intervening years, and while I would hardly call him a friend, I had no problem on a personal level, and I do recall his longterm music partnership with the great John Doonan, who certainly respected his musicianship. I have been aware for years that aspects of his 'business' found no favour with many people I respect, so presume there is some substance to what I hear....
There are some parallels with Peter Kennedy, whose business behaviour was also doubtful, although he DID record material which would otherwise have been lost- that man surely deserves some credit for that?
Dave was no collector, but had amassed a vast amount of of material in his stores, and whatever motives provoked the allegations made by so many people, this collection is now in one place, and at some stage will, we all hope, become widely available- issue of such items will probably still be a 'business' decision, whoever takes it on. Incidentally, isn't it sad that traditional music has now become no more than a business for so many others, quite apart from the two who are the current object of vilification?
It may be that some time in the future, folk music students will be grateful for the activities of both of these people, so their longterm contribution to the tradition may well be viewed more positively in the future.
At the moment, my thoughts are with his wife Ruth and his family, and I do feel that a little respect is due at this time- arguments about his doubtful business behaviour can surely wait a little while?
someone asked about the funeral- details are....
I am advised by a good friend that the funeral is to be at

Stonefall Crematorium
Wetherby Road
HARROGATE HG3 1DE on 16 August at 3pm
I won't be there, but many will


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GloriaJ
Date: 09 Aug 13 - 06:35 PM

I will be there,I hope.I knew the details of the funeral but I wasnt sure about revealing them here - anyway, Jim has done that,and yes, the time and venue are correct.I knew Dave very well for a number of years - was in a band with him - although we had not been in contact for a long time. It was a complex relationship,let's say, but I'm sorry I wasnt able to get to see him more recently.No doubt his business approach was sometimes questionable(and he tripped me up a few times) and he could be abrupt and abrasive, and wasnt inclined to flattery. As some of us know, a touring band develops some strange dynamics - closer than a family in some ways, and even more ruthless. Dave's domineering personality frequently led to him being a bit of an outsider but he was probably too robust a character to bother about whether people liked him or not - even in his own band! He often got my back up - maybe because he didnt stoop to flatter my ego, and I often felt we were in conflict. However, I did find out,on more than one occasion, that in my absence, he stood up for me - to the extent of once rolling around swapping fisticuffs on a German pavement.He never told me this - someone else did. He recorded a couple of my albums years ago (never paid me any royalties of course) and tied me down in a contract I soon came to regret.But that's all in the past now, and is of no consequence.We also had some good rumbustuous times.
I hope his wife Ruth, a very nice lady, doesnt have to cope with any abusiveness.I'll miss him anyway, and plenty of others will too.I've been told the funeral is to be a musical celebration.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 09 Aug 13 - 06:49 PM

Thanks Jim for the details and also Gloria for the confirmation.

Hope to be there to pay respects and support Ruth.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: Tyke
Date: 10 Aug 13 - 05:53 PM

Well said GloriaJ

Stonefall Crematorium
Wetherby Road
HARROGATE HG3 1DE on 16 August at 3pm

Hope to be there to pay respects and support Ruth.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,Gerry Brownridge.
Date: 12 Aug 13 - 03:26 PM

I remember Dave from way back in the late '70's when I used to attend an Irish music session at the old Roscoe pub in Sheepscar, Leeds. I was a complete novice at the time, but Dave always had time for me and a pint was always on the table when I walked in and encouragement given when I was trying to learn a few Irish tunes. Turn the clock on 20 odd years and I was doing the "Irish theme pub" circuit. Whenever I was booked at Scruffy Murphy's in Harrogate, Dave would often turn up with his accordion and do the last set with me. He was a great guy, superb musician, and will be sadly missed. My deepest condolences to his wife Ruth and family. God bless.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: Tyke
Date: 12 Aug 13 - 06:53 PM

The truth is that I have never met Daves Wife Ruth however everyone that I have spooken too has told me what Lovly person she is now when I meet her for the first time it will be at the Celibration of Dave's life.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 13 - 12:55 PM

I was a friend of Dave's at Leeds. We did the same course and enjoyed the same music with Tony Wilson, Tom Napper and Bob tracey. All my memories are good. I last saw him at Redcar Festival with Ruth and remember him fondly. He was a fabulous musician and remember him falling over drunk without missing a note on that enormous accordion. I know people have other experiences but this was mine. RIP Dave and best wishes to Ruth


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: Tyke
Date: 14 Aug 13 - 04:15 AM

Well said GUEST.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,JAM
Date: 14 Aug 13 - 05:15 AM

Dave was extremely kind and supportive when my partner and I needed help and advice. Can only comment about our experience and will always be grateful for the help and advice given by Dave and Ruth's hospitality during a difficult period in our life.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,Melissa Javors
Date: 25 Aug 13 - 09:25 PM

This message is for Ruth, Jamie, and Calllum. I loved your dad because he was such a distinct individualist. He believed in everything he stood for. I received a phone message from one of you boys, but the volume was very low. My phone is not set up to make international calls, but I will try to do this very soon. I'm so very sorry to hear of his passing.-love, Melissa


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,ex employee
Date: 02 Oct 13 - 06:46 AM

I used to work for Dave, but got fed up with never getting paid on time. He knew a good business deal, but didn't really care for people imo.
Deliberately NOT getting letter back to bank on time, thus an employee misses out on a mortgage - that's the Dave Bulmer I knew!
He was a wonderful accordionist though!!
I feel Ruth will be left to deal with a lot of crap, but nice as Ruth is, she knew Dave! She knew!


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,exemployee
Date: 20 Oct 13 - 02:48 PM

She knew


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Oct 13 - 10:06 AM

Pete Fawcett. I get around and so did Dave. I would meet him anywhere there was Irish music.He was unconventional. I met him at a Fleadh in Listowel County Kerry.I asked him which Hotel he was staying at. He replied, he wasn't in any, he was sleeping in the car!
I knew Dave Bulmer for 40 years and like others I took him as i found him.I never had a bad word from him or with him. He always made his way to speak to me and was no snob. Which is more than I can say for a few others.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 22 Oct 13 - 10:24 AM

Gutless anonymous guest, I'm guessing Bulmer didn't cheat you then ?

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: selby
Date: 22 Oct 13 - 10:57 AM

It interesting that it is now close to 3 months, that Mr Bulmer left this mortal toil. Given the amount of discussions and feeling in lots of quarters, regards his archive of material. There is no statements rumours etc that we know of, to indicate what his heirs may or not do with the material. Is there cause for concern?
Keith


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 22 Oct 13 - 12:15 PM

My experience is that it takes three to four months just to get a grant of probate. There isn't a lot that the executors can do until then.That's assuming that he actually made a will of course.


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Subject: RE: Obit: The LATE Dave Bulmer (August 2013)
From: GUEST,Gutless
Date: 28 Oct 13 - 02:57 PM

>>Gutless anonymous guest, I'm guessing Bulmer didn't cheat you then ?

Has a message been deleted ... or were you talking to Pete Fawcett, who is pretty well known, and known to be a gentleman?


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