Dave Bulmer (discussion)

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 17 Mar 05 - 10:23 AM

Dick,

Thanks for that. I may well be in touch.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:20 PM

Yes,Rout of the Blues is a CDR. No, there will be no royalties paid until a copy is sold. A while back, I asked anyone who's been stiffed by Celtic Music to notify me, and I'd make good on royalty payments--so far, no applicants.

And yes, CAMSCO Music carries all of Celtic Music's releases. Including the Leader label, Dambuster label and a bunch of others.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: treewind
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 02:31 PM

if he does own the rights how did he come by them

In the case of Leader and at least one other label, by buying bankrupt stock from the receiver. His legal entitlement to the rights is not in question.

Hasn't this all been gone through enough times already?

Anahata

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 01:53 PM

Probably CDR. Probably no royalties paid. Probably no harm done though.

Debate: who's the biggest shit on the folk scene, Dave Bulmer of Celtic Music or Ian A. Anderson of Folk Roots?

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Lancashire Lad
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 01:31 PM

Just to put a spanner in the works

Rout of the Blues has been re-issued. I saw it on line. It must be one of DB's as it was on Leader
Cheers
LL (who's learnt to keep his head down in the great Dave Bulmer debate)

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 01:04 PM

Well, there's the rub, isn't it? If he does own the rights how did he come by them? I can understand how artists may be frustrated at not having access to their own old recordings but presumably no-one forced any of them to sign their rights away at gunpoint. I would love to be able to buy 'Rout of the Blues' but I missed it first time round and I've managed to live without it.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Leadfingers
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 11:47 AM

Chris B - The problem seems to be NOT that we cant buy the first Swan Arcade LP but that artists are being prevented from doing any thing with material they recorded and which Mr Bulmer now owns the reproduction rights to . Or at least , IF he is going to permit them access to what ,in my opinion , is THEIRS they cant make any money out of it !

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 11:40 AM

Andy,

Yeah, yeah, I know. I met the bloke once and didn't like him much. And I feel sorry for Nic Jones, though if he's getting the full range of benefits he's entitled to he may well have an income comparable to what he might have expected from royalties if he'd signed a different deal (with Bill Leader, who originally recorded him)- not that it's any of my (or your) business. But one of the major gripes against Bulmer seems to be that he's sitting on the tapes of lots of folk records from the 60s and 70s - which he presumably paid someone for. Does it really matter that much in the great scheme of things that you can't buy the first Swan Arcade LP anymore?

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin, Isle Of Man
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:29 AM

To Chris B   - you really should read the long article about Mr Bulmer and his business practices which appeared in The Observer some years back. If you havent worked him out when you do read it,you will be in something of a minority!

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 07:36 PM

Oh for fuck's sake.....

The guy runs a business. So did all the people he did business with. Since when did he become the antichrist?

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 14 Mar 05 - 05:37 AM

Thanks for the info

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 03:17 PM

Address, phone, fax and Dave Bulmer's direct line are available on the Musical Traditions site: Mustrad Addresses.

Mick

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Greycap
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 03:10 PM

Try:
Celtic Music,
Harrogate,
N. Yorkshire
It's on an industrial estate and I don't know the actual street. He won't answer, of course.

Subject: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 13 Mar 05 - 02:47 PM

I want to drop Dave Bulmer a note. Where should I address it? No rude replies please!