Dave Bulmer (discussion)

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Apr 18 - 10:04 AM

Shame, it appears there are no official cultural heritage bodies that can be called upon to tactfully intervene...???

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 12 Apr 18 - 10:00 AM

I am just wondering what the executors are playing at now.

Are they unaware that they have been sitting on a chunk of intellectual property of, admittedly, moderate value? Or has the IP been assigned to an heir who is similarly unaware? Has the estate been wound up or is this ongoing?

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: The Sandman
Date: 12 Apr 18 - 05:55 AM

there is also Rosemary Hardman, who i believe is also not well

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Apr 18 - 07:08 PM

It's tempting even after all these years to point to individuals such as Dick and Nic Jones who've encountered tough times, but let's not lose sight of the general principle we're arguing for that the music that people have made, ultimately, morally, belongs to them. Not saying that agents, producers, record companies and the rest shouldn't make a living, but the principle holds. I doubt whether either Dick or Nic would do anything other than roll their eyes to heaven if they sensed they were being used as bargaining chips to raise the emotional stakes in this argument. I know we've all done it ad nauseam in the past but I think we should keep it general if we want to work towards a good outcome. The chances of anyone with real influence reading this are slim, but, just in case, it's as well to remember that the guy we blame is dead but there are people who were around him that just might have better natures that we can appeal to. Anyway, I'd pay fifteen quid for an expertly-mastered and produced CD package of The Noah's Ark Trap and I guarantee that there are thousands like me!

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 11 Apr 18 - 06:31 PM

Dick Gaughan is self employed. Yes, he will have no medical expenses in the UK but he is unable to continue earning a living at the moment. If he has produced recorded work he should be allowed to sell it, particularly at this time. This is notwithstanding the countless hours he has given towards benefit gigs and support for others who were in need.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Apr 18 - 06:28 PM

Dick had a stroke. There was a crowd-funding thing to raise money to help him with rehab. In Scotland.
I haven't the slightest idea how he's doing now.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: GUEST,Guest (non defender)
Date: 11 Apr 18 - 06:04 PM

Re the last posting.

It is unfortunate that Dick is ill. I do not know what he is suffering from.

The correspondent is obviously living in the land of the free!!!! where ill health can be expensive.

Such generally is not the case in the UK and unless Dick has opted for private treatment any medical expenses would be covered by the NHS.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: FScott
Date: 11 Apr 18 - 04:27 PM

In my last note I mentioned Dick Gaughan and Run Rig - I really meant to say Clan Alba.
As many of you know Dick has been very sick the past year and rerelease of his Trailer albums would be most welcome as it would be helpful towards his medical expenses.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: FScott
Date: 11 Apr 18 - 04:10 PM

I used to deal with Bulmer as a U.S. retailer and have to tell you it was a nightmare. I would place orders that I wouldn't receive and would get no replies to my letters and faxes. I would place orders and receive a shipment but with no invoice. My request for an invoice would go unanswered and then I'd receive an invoice six months later. I visited him several times and he would let me pick out LPs that I wanted shipped to the USA but never received them. He invited me to stay at his house once and I ended up sleeping in a bed that had probably been slept in by a dozen or more people before me with no attempt to wash the sheets after any of the visits.
I do believe that he did some good for the British Isles folk scene but it was outweighed by the harm. Ask Dick Gaughan about his experiences with Bulmer when he recorded the Run Rig album or the many Leader/ Trailer artists who begged Bulmer to make their material available. Bob Fox and Stu Luckley re-recorded most of their two Black Crow albums for Fellside with almost the same arrangements because they couldn't get Bulmer to make their albums available.
With all due respect to the Bulmer defender I think that Dave Bulmer had some level of sociopathy going on. I'm pretty sure that it wasn't about making money.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: Howard Jones
Date: 31 Mar 18 - 01:58 AM

Kenny, it is acknowledged that he issued a small number of recordings, but these were not very widely available, and seem often to have been CD-Rs run off as single orders. The criticism of him is that he sat on a large catalogue of recordings which he would not make widely available, depriving us of some wonderful music and the artists of income.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 30 Mar 18 - 12:58 PM

Just been listening to a double CD, "The 3rd Irish Folk Festival In Concert". Wonderful music from Seamus Creagh and Jacky Daly, Treasa ni Mhiollain, "Clannad" and "De Dannan" with Andy Irvine. Released on CD by "Celtic Music" in 1988. Thanks, Dave [ RIP ].

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: The Sandman
Date: 30 Mar 18 - 12:35 PM

The only conclusions I can come to are that either he asked too much for the recordings or was not willing to let them be published."
in the case of The New Mexboroughs, I approached him he would not sell, and did not publish, these are facts ,not the spouting of some anonymous uninformed guest.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: Howard Jones
Date: 30 Mar 18 - 05:27 AM

It is very difficult to fathom Bulmer's motives. We should be thankful that someone stepped in to the assets when Leader went bust, or they might have ended up in a skip. Were his motives to preserve a catalogue which included some important recordings, or purely financial?

The assets were at least preserved, in the sense that they were not lost or destroyed. However if they are not made widely accessible then what is the point?

He presumably paid something for the assets when Leader went bust, but he seems to have had little idea how to recoup his investment. Yes, he would sell CD-Rs on demand, but he did little or nothing to advertise this. Despite what Guest troll claims, many people who had a serious interest in folk music at the time would not have known what had happened to it, or how to get in touch with him. Remember, this was long before the internet, when the folk scene was much more localised than it is now.

There would have been considerable demand for at least some of the catalogue (admittedly not all). If Bulmer didn't want to publish them himself I find it hard to believe that one of the established labels (or the individual artists) would not have been willing to do so. The only conclusions I can come to are that either he asked too much for the recordings or was not willing to let them be published. Recently of course the cost of making CDs has come down considerably, and music can be released digitally for very little cost.

Whether or not it was his deliberate intention, the actual result was that a large body of recordings were in effect suppressed, in that they were not available to the majority of people who might wish to listen to them. This was not a good thing for the folk world, or for the artists whose works he controlled.

Neither does it seem to have been good for Bulmer. He could probably have made much more money from the recordings than he did. By handling things the way he did he destroyed his own reputation. What was it all for? I wonder whether he had some grudge against the folk world and this was some form of revenge, but if that were the case he would probably have refused to make any copies available at all. We'll probably never know.

The big question is what will now happen to them? I hope his executors appreciate both the commercial and artistic value of his catalogue and will now make it more widely avaiable. Ideally these should all now be released. The most iconic recordings (the Nic Jones stuff for example) could probably be profitably released on CD, the less commercially marketable ones could be very cheaply released online.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: The Sandman
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 11:13 AM

no idea , but because i do not understand his behaviour, does not make his behaviour acceptable he was imo a greedy pain in the arse , fact is he suppressed other peoples recordings

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 10:00 AM

I'm just a punter, happy to add purchased CDs to my collection...

Trying to momentarily set aside the bitter disputes, and anger at Bulmer from within the older folk artists community...

As a music fan and buyer, my frank appraisal of this Bulmer saga
is that the man was probably more in tune with slowly selling pre-existing remaindered LPs
accumulated in boxes in his warehouse.
But not adept at conserving or appreciating the commercial and/or artistic value of master tapes.

More to the point, he seemed to have little real understanding of how to effectively
promote, market, and profit from the greater and lesser treasures hidden in his vast hoard...

The modern world of cost effective high quality niche CD releases, music downloads, and streaming
seems to have been beyond his limited understanding and vision...???????

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 27 Mar 18 - 03:16 PM

Why Dick would a man who, according to your previous posting on this thread, was only interested in money, refuse to sell something?

And what do you mean by suppress?

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Mar 18 - 07:03 PM

Dave suppressed many recordings including one that i was involved in he was pain in the arse

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 26 Mar 18 - 06:41 PM

I don't know how old you are PFR but yes the bulk of the stuff Dave bought the ownership and copyright for was "reputedly worthy deleted LPs". I think most people who had a serious interest in folk music at the time the material was produced were more than likely aware it was there - in a lot of cases they would not have the sort of disposable income the current generation enjoys. There was at the time a fair chance a lot of the stuff would have ended up in a skip!

So maybe Dave didn't live long enough!

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Mar 18 - 11:16 PM

"Dave suppressed nothing - just insisted in dealing with the material which he had paid for being available at normal markups."

How can a music fan & potential customer buy something if they never knew it existed;
or maybe might have seen an obscure list of reputedly worthy deleted LPs from decades ago,
but had no reasonable way of hearing any of them
in order to decide on purchase...????????????

There are plenty of 1960s and 70s rock bands that sold few LPs first time around
that have enjoyed reappraisal in the music magazines leading to succesful high quality remastered LTD Edition CD release...

Even Wombles complete recordings have been reissued on CDs over the last 40 years...!!!!

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Mar 18 - 08:44 PM

Take a bloody hike why don't you, troll.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer (discussion)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 25 Mar 18 - 07:26 PM

Touched Steve Shaw's awkward bone again.

Dave suppressed nothing - just insisted in dealing with the material which he had paid for being available at normal markups.

That's what being in business is about.

When was the last time you queried the price a supermarket was charging?

Next have just under acheived by only making £725 MILLION POUNDS - down on last year. Their share price immediately went up by about 8%.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Mar 18 - 01:21 PM

Dave, lost his way in pursuit of money and ended up with a bad rep, her suppressed loads of recordings thus doing himself and lots of others a lot of damage.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 24 Mar 18 - 08:51 AM

'punkfolkrocker' - I'm lucky here in Miltown Malbay, Co. Clare, the local library has an extensive folk collection, probably due to its strong connection with the piper Willie Clancy & the annual music summer school named after him. Surely, if it's possible in a small town of 800 population, then it should be anywhere?

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Mar 18 - 03:56 AM

"Despite his insistance on dealing with his openly purchased material in his own way Dave did more for traditional music in the UK than a lot of his detractors"
like suppressing and hoarding recordings for years so artists material could not be heard, made Kennedylook like a saint

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 08:48 PM

As I'm one of mudcat's more youthful members - a mere 59 - I was too young to hear much of the missing Bulmer LPs
at time of initial release [ or subsequently for obvious reasons...]

So for us youngsters, something like youtube is a justifiable medium to at least have a chance of hearing some of them
to find out what we were missing.

I'd tactfully suggest a discrete list of recommended ones to search for on youtube might be a useful asset

It's a very long time since a local library held a magnificent collection of folk LPs to borrow.

[as did my town library when I was a teenager - mostly Topic LPS - they must have got a bulk deal...???]

Mind you, it's getting rarere to find a local library still open.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 08:35 PM

Yeah, right, anonymous Guest-guest-coward, no doubt the late Dave's uncle. Nobody here wants anything for free. What we want is amazing music released in the best quality, at almost any price, with fair royalties paid to the artists. Now stop arseing around and tell us all what bits of that you don't understand.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 06:44 PM

So now that the albums are on Ubend those nice people from Sony will claim copyright and prove who the real bastards are.

Despite his insistance on dealing with his openly purchased material in his own way Dave did more for traditional music in the UK than a lot of his detractors,

It has been pointed out more than once on this platform that the material is there to be purchased - so why the whinges - unless it is because the whingers would much prefer to have it free.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 04:44 AM

I see that many of the albums are now on YouTube - not from me IHTA. Hope DB is rolling in his grave.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Jasper
Date: 15 Jul 12 - 07:24 PM

David Robert Bulmer

Checkout following DirectorCheck Web Address -

http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/904217133

List of Companies / addresses / Assets etc

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 04 Jul 12 - 06:58 PM

More from the vaults:-

BLUE MOUNTAIN FIELD TRIP LP LEADER SOUND NM/NM 0 bids        £9.99        +£4.00         Time left: 3d 19h 56m         
CECILIA COSTELLO LEADER GRAYSLEEVE LP FOLK VINYL RARE 0 bids        £29.99        +£3.50         Time left: 3d 20h 22m         
COME DAY, GO DAY... LEADER GRAY SLEEVE JHON MAGUIRE LP 0 bids        £24.99        +£3.50         Time left: 3d 20h 22m         
FAR CANADIAN FEILDS LEADER GRAYSLEEVE LP FOLK NEW FOWKE 0 bids        £29.99        +£3.50         Time left: 3d 20h 22m         
TONY ROSE UNDER THE GREENWOOD TREE LEADER FOLK VINYL 0 bids        £29.99        +£3.50         Time left: 3d 20h 22m         
A PEOPLE'S CAROL LEADER GRAYSLEEEVE FOLK LP YORKSHIRE 0 bids        £29.99        +£3.50         Time left: 3d 20h 22m         
WADE IN THE FLOOD ANDREW CRONSHAW LEADER VINYL VINTAGE 0 bids        £29.99        +£3.50         Time left: 3d 20h 22m         

Ross
PISCES LEADER FOLK VINYL LP GREENWOOD DIGANCE O'CONNOR 0 bids        £29.99        +£3.50         Time left: 3d 20h 22m         
THE RAKES VINYL VINTAGE FOLK BILL LEADER IRISH FIDDLE 0 bids        £29.99        +£3.50         Time left: 3d 20h 22m         
FLUTE FOR THE FEIS JOHN DOONAN LEADER LP VINTAGE FOLK 0 bids        £29.99        +£3.50         Time left: 3d 20h 22m         
THE BOYS OF THE LOUGH SECOND ALBUM LEADER VINYL LP FOLK 0 bids        £29.99        +£3.50         Time left: 3d 20h 22m

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Surreysinger
Date: 28 Jun 12 - 08:35 PM

Those have been up on sale on EBay for some time now Ross, and were the subject of heated conversation when first spotted. And if anyone was thinking of "doing" anything regarding digitisation of LP recordings I would advocate heeding Anahata's advice.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 28 Jun 12 - 03:27 PM

Looks like Dave Bulmer (Celtic Music) may be attempting to cash in his stocks:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-BRIGHT-PHOEBUS-LAL-MIKE-WATERSON-VINTAGE-FOLK-RARE-/130719335656?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1e6f7ac4e8

Several other interesting folk albums there, perhaps half of the 205 albums listed are from the folk field as it was in the seventies/eighties.

yourpricemusic (eBay seller) trading as Celtic Visions,
address given as
North Works
Hookstone Park
Harrogate
North Yorkshire
HG2 7DB
United Kingdom

Ross

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 17 May 12 - 06:16 AM

That was my point, Treewind. Mr B is reputed to be litigious.

RtS

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: treewind
Date: 17 May 12 - 05:42 AM

For recordings in which Dave Bulmer (or his company, Celtic Music) holds the rights, the problem of re-releasing by anyone else is not a technical one but a legal one.
Just sayin', before we all get too carried away with the technicalities...

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Fossil
Date: 17 May 12 - 05:23 AM

Well, that was my point - clearly this isn't a task for the amateur.

PFRocker, how's about kicking some of your expert mates into action?

Where's everybody in the world? Physical location is the thing. Wouldn't it be great if PFR's mate lived just down the road? And could deal with the whole goddam lot in 20 minutes before getting back to sampling Snoop Doggy Dog in 3D Technicolor so that the folkies could hang one on Dave Bastard Bulmer...

CJB, I envy you. Never let those recordings out of your posession, store them like the Crown Jewels they are. And fer the luv of Gawd, don't send them to Auckland!

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 May 12 - 01:32 PM

Thanks for that. That's what I was implying when I said that miracles can be worked, etc. I wasn't suggesting doing it with my Bush music centre!

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 16 May 12 - 10:46 AM

and while I'm waiting for kettle to boil..

3 - "Technical Log

Hannl "limited" Record Cleaning Machine with Rotating Brush
TT: Bergmann Audio "Magne" (with air-bearing platter)
Tonearm: Bergmann Magne (tangential/linear air-bearing tonearm)
Cartridge: Ortofon MC A 90
Phono Amp: Nagra BPS (battery driven pre amp; 100 Ohm load)
Interconnects by Silent Wire (NF-7)
Benchmark ADC 1 USB
Interconnects by ViaBlue
AC connects by Goldkabel
Wavelab 6.1 recording software (recording & manual click removal)
iZotope RX Advanced 2.0 (resampling & audio restoration)
Traders Little Helper (SBE fix on 16/44.1)


Vacuum Cleaning > Bergmann Magne > Nagra BPS > Laptop > Wavelab 6.1 (24/96) > manual click removal
analyze (no clipping, no DC Bias offset) > resample to 16/44.1 > split into individual Tracks > FLAC encoded (Vers. 1.21)

No silence been removed, please burn gapless to match original tracklayout."


4 - "Technicals
Knosti RCM.
Pink Triangle LPT with
Funk Firm Achromat.
Moth Arm 1 (Rega RB 250).
Audio Technica AT33PTG MC Cart.
Harman Kardon HK990 Integrated Amp.
Gold Interconnects. Creative S80300 External ADC.
Creative WaveStudio 7 Recording Software.
Split and manual de-click with Adobie Audition 3.0.1
Click Repair 3.7"

and these are most respected vinyl ripping experts with some of the least extensive & expensive digi transfer gear setups...

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 16 May 12 - 10:29 AM

No need reminding that digitising vinyl is not the sort of job best left to a mate
who boasts he's got a decent turntable and reckons he's a bit of an expert on hi fi ???

The Bulmer factory pressed CD of "Bright Phoebus" that he was selling at high price on Amazon
was plagued with vocal distortion.
Indicating that if it was a vinyl rip, the original pressing was knackered
and / or he just quickly copied it off on his cheap home stereo music centre.

Here is an example of what genuine expert vinyl rippers would consider minimum standard equipment and procedure
to capture a real state of the art digital trasfer:

Names withheld for errmm.. reasons...

1 - "Vinyl ripping notes:
Equipment:
VPI HW-17F Vacuum Record Cleaner
Technics SL-1210 T/T, Custom power supply,
Rega RB 300 Tonearm,
Denon DL304 M/C Cartridge
NAD 3130 M/C Stage
M-Audio Profire 610 A/D
Adobe audition 3.0

Method:
Clean records, rip (PCM@96/32), remove subsonic (-18Hz)
Manual and carefully targeted automatic de-clicking in software. I make sure this doesn't damage natural clicks.
Occasional use of noise masking techniques such as fading sampled groove noise to mono during track changes, etc.
Normalize whole sides to 100%, Split tracks
FLAC, MD5, M3U, Discogs Tagging, DR, RAR, +Redbook (16-bit dithered in Audition), FTP

This LP's school report:
A++ with gold stars. If only all vinyl was made this way. 180 gram, clean as a whistle, flat as a pancake, on-centre, nearly perfect except for very, very stray little clicks. Hardly had to do a thing. Nice. Mastered with great skill by Doug Sax at TML (The Mastering Lab) and all stamps bear the TML-M mark."



2 - "Vinyl Ripping Process/Equipment

VPI 16.5 RCM
Turntable: VPI Scoutmaster
Tonearm: Trans-Fi Termninator
Cartridge: Audio-Technica AT33PTG loaded at 80 ohms
Phono Stage: Musical Surroundings Phonomena
Digital Interface: E-MU 1212
Recording Software: Adobe Audition 3.01
Recording Bitrate/Sample Rate: 192/24

Post Processing
Run thru ClickRepair at level 10 with
Pitch Protection | off
Reverse | on
Simple
Resample to 96khz in Izotope Rx2 using the default preset
Manually listen to album in Adobe Audition cleaning any clicks/anomalies
Flac with Xrecode II


What Exactly Is An "Ultimate Master"

It is more or less a catchphrase originally used to designate something was a hi-res rip. But since there seems to be a lot "similarly" named rips now I guess I should explain.

I try to present the "ultimate mastering" of a particular LP, the "mastering" is not my equipment or process but the source material, it has always been about finding the best source. Now my opinion of the best source is subject to change as I experience more variations. Whether or not folks think my rip is "definitive" is irrelevant to me, I just try to find the best pressing and don't mind doing the extra clean up that comes with not just ripping new reissues or japanese issues. I understand the appeal of these pressings but I don't subscribe to the notion that they represent the best source 95% of the time."

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 May 12 - 08:57 AM

Leave 'em sealed up and store in equable conditions. You never know when some loophole will be found, and there will always be cracking good playing decks in existence somewhere. Even if the original tapes are lost, you know that the material is not lost. Miracles have been worked with records much older than yours. You are a very important person! Beware of sending 'em to some large organisation where their value may not be appreciated. No centralisation. The best form of defence is a gun on every rooftop... ;-)

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 16 May 12 - 08:19 AM

If I peg it one day - or rather as a clog dancer - if I pop my clogs - I need to be able to ensure the right people get this pristine collection. Who would or could that be? I thought of EFDSS at C#H but then I thought why? I thought of sending the lot down to Auckland where a certain folk club has a vast archive of such recordings - tape and vinyl. But then they never bother to keep in touch - so again I thought why? My aim in all I do is getting stuff into the public domain bearing in mind that the original artists of official recordings do need a pay back if items are duplicated and sold (the latter which I have no intention of doing BTW) except perhaps to piss off a certain DB.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Fossil
Date: 16 May 12 - 05:47 AM

I'd PM anyone I thought had the abilities. I certainly don't have the equipment and if CJ is back in the UK, I'm half a world away from him and his stash anyway. If it's NZ, I'll see what I could do.

Surely some UK 'catter - I know there are many who would do it just for the principle of the thing - could step up?

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 15 May 12 - 09:08 AM

Best dealt with by confidential PM, I'd have thought, Fossil.
RtS

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Fossil
Date: 15 May 12 - 04:27 AM

Can anyone in the "cat follow up CJB's post? Those precious bit of vinyl need cataloging, re-recording onto digital and preserving in the cloud to prevent the likes of Mr Bulmer from going to his grave thinking that he's won over the true folkies.

I don't want to breach anyone's copyright and would happily pay to listen to any of the material. Even DB, if I have to.

But that stuff needs seeing to. Soon, by the sound of it...

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 15 May 12 - 03:21 AM

Ooer - I have lots of pristine folk albums from Leader, Sweat Folk All, Topic, Transatlantic, etc., including a mint copy of the Copper Family set 'A Song for Very Season' (our family came from Rottingdean).

When I was in NZ in the 1970s - in Hawera, Taranaki - I was so isolated from any form of folk music, indeed from any form of culture other than boozing at the 'three pub corner' in the High Street - that I got my parents to ship out loads of folk lps by surface mail at great expense I might add. None of these were imported into NZ by distributors.

But then I had difficulty obtaining decent record playing equipment - import restrictions on such luxury items, incl. and cassette tape players and even reel-reel tape players were draconian.

When I moved to Auckland and whilst the folk scene was still pretty sparse, e.g. no folk dancing whatsoever, certainly no morris etc., and a few folk song clubs (3), there was one second hand record shop that used to have a few folk lps - which I visited and snapped up every week.

Then a major importer of records - Pye I think - went bust. Suddenly said record shop had quantities of Brit. folk lps for sale at very silly low prices. That's where all the Brit Folk lps had been stored - in a warehouse in Auckland - undistributed for 'lack of demand.' So my collection increased dramatically.

But now - 40 years later - I lack the equipment to play records, and the said lps are languishing on bookshelves some still sealed. Probably like the master tapes DB has. But at least my records are still playable, whereas his tapes are probably not.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 May 12 - 06:40 AM

Great stuff can be done with pristine vinyl copies. Anyone who possesses such things should have 'em locked in a bank vault somewhere for the time being! Well, at least don't let the mice chew 'em.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 13 May 12 - 09:26 AM

"This surely ought to be the way forward for Mr. B" - if said master tapes are still viable - which is a very moot point.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Ian Croft
Date: 26 Feb 12 - 07:40 AM

It is perhaps too much to hope that Bill Leader's appearance at the BBC Folk Awards might have tweaked a nerve in Harrogate, but fingers crossed.
Incidentally, I noticed that Topic has released some old albums as download only. This surely ought to be the way forward for Mr. B

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Tom Millett (Sydney)
Date: 26 Feb 12 - 12:05 AM

The Celts came to Ireland about 500BC. There were other peoples in Ireland since about 8000BC
To my knowledge the Celts were never acknowledged for their Music, Just their ability to cause mayhem.
The Irish language and Irish culture are just that 'IRISH'.
So lets Dump this Celtic S***e and let the Irish have the credit they deserve, for good or for bad - They can shoulder it!!!!!

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 13 Jan 12 - 02:51 AM

Hello Michael.
Maybe the fact that Nic has performed twice Live in the last two Years. (Sidmouth 2010 and the QEH London, both sell out gigs) and is planning to appear at a few UK festivals in 2012, will make the owner of Celtic Music do the right thing by the family.
All too late for Mike and Lal Waterson, and Tony Rose.
I'm not holding my breath, I must admit.

Subject: RE: Dave Bulmer - Address
From: GUEST,Michael jacksy
Date: 12 Jan 12 - 02:10 PM

Shame.

At least I have a first pressing of Bright Phoebus from 1972 so I can enjoy that music on vinyl.

Nic Jones in particular deserves better but we all know that anyway.