2005 Getaway Reflections Here...

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:07 PM

Ahhhhh, I guess you thought you'd slide that one by me, din't ya, Eb...

Well, if ya think yer gonna slide one by this ol' hillbilly yer gonna have to get up early and pack two lunches...

(Ahhhh, Bobert, seein' as there's like 4 'er 7 hours different between Luary time and Alaska time, Ebbie could get up at noon an' slide anything she might want to slide by you....)

Ahhhh, mere techincality, I say...

Ahhhh, Part Two... Sniff... Yeah, I used think rap was "carp" until this past summer when my son, Will to me, Ben to the rest of the world (don't ask....) came to visit fir a month and he brought his own rap stuff that he's written with him and so while he was here I invited him up to perfom with me at two pwerformances and we did a rap/blues song and he certainly taught me a few things about rap... And I was so proud to hear him spill out his story/poetry in "carp" form and he did it up-n'walkin'-good...

Sniff....

Sho did, he tore up the palce and there were folks in the crowd that come up to him afterwards and told him that they hadn't ever listened to no rap but tnhey liked what he had done...

Double sniff...

And all I had to do was hold a beat and be a proud dad...

The boy is good...

And yeah, most rap is carp but not his...

That's my story...

Bobert

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 07:44 PM

Dont forget the in-crowd.

I go with the incrowd, I...

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 07:37 PM

hahha And it's spelled 'carp', as somebody near and dear to us all has it.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 06:46 PM

In rap Ebbie the C is silent like the P in swimming.
Giok

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: ranger1
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 06:03 PM

Isn't folk music the music of people? If that's the case, gives a pretty broad definition. My musical tastes are all over the spectrum and some of it would give Kendall and Curmudgeon absolute fits (Godsmack, anyone?). I like Do Wop, but I probably wouldn't attend a workshop on it. That's the beauty of music, though, something for everyone.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Nancy King
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 04:31 PM

Doo-wop may not be "folk music" (whatever that is...), but it is definitely the music a lot of us grew up with. And it surely has generated a response here!

Rest assured, Bill and Kendall and other "purists", there will be other options...

Bam da lam!
Nancy

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 04:15 PM

Well, I'se older than both of yez (put together) and I was there too-and I loved it. Now it is true that I was not fond of Pat Boone (but I never thought of him and Patti Page together- what?) but I liked the Ink Spots, Cab Calloway, LOVED Sam Cooke, the Mills Brothers, ya get the picture. I also LOVED Elvis's voice (never got into his movies), the twist, the raucous bouncy havy rhythms of 'Raunchy' and 'Rebel Rouser' (are those titles evocative or what!). I don't know if any of these songs or singers come under the umbrella of folk (but I never heard a horse sing them) but I don't really care. They were songs of an era asd as such they had their place.

Oh, dear, a generation from now, I can hear the young'uns of today talking about Rap. (Not you, Rap.)

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:47 PM

Amos...I WAS there!..I saw it all. My 50th HS reunion will happen in a couple years!!!I used to watch "Your Hit Parade" with Giselle and Snooky and the others. But I just never took to it...."...the fire of hormones" was there, but nukes never fazed me. I REMEMBER hearing "Whict Sport Coat and Pink Carnation" and thinking...YUCK! what crap! That was what? 1956 or so?

I guess some of us are just saddled and cursed with taste and discernment and are doomed to never have ANY fun....

*evil giggle*

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:40 PM

Here's my story, true but sad
About a girl that was very bad
In May it was, in Scarlett town
Sweet William died when she put him down
I shoulda known it from the start
He had no sense, she had no heart
So listen close to the tale I tell
And stay away from that Barbara A'l

Ba-ba-ba
Ba-ba-bra Al
Ba-ba-ba...

(Be glad I accidentally erased A-may shoobie doo Zing grace shoobie doo...

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GUEST,maryrrf at work
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:32 PM

I don't like Doo Wop either but there are so many choices at the Getaway that I know I'll have a couple of alternatives to choose from. So let the Doo Woppers doo their thing.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:19 PM

Sigh..ah, you purists; I love ya like brothers, but you'd'a hadda been there -- swamped by the fire of hormones and terrified by nukes and people of the opposite sex alike -- to understand what a joyful thing doowop was in the hearts of the young just before the Beatles started, just before the Kingston Trio hit the Big Time, when Bob Dylan was still thinking about his first kiss hopefully... it is the emblazoned Badge of an Era, is doowop. A genuine grassroots evolution, born out of Memphis and Mississippi by Pat Boone and Patti Page. Like Dixieland, like Gershwin, or like Barbershop before it, it is a unique musical stamp, an icon of its time. Show some respect!!! ROFLMAO!

A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:49 PM

It all starts innocuously enough: with Doo Wop workshops. It's the thin end of the wedge, I tell you. Before you know it there'll be a Headbangers Ball instead of a ceilidh and Pogo to your Favourite Heavy Metal Number. Gimme something traditional I say, like John Mehlberg's Collection - that will put "stars" in people's eyes!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:32 PM

I hated it then and I still do. Sign me, Hard core folkie.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Pauline L
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:28 PM

Mrs. Duck, I've never heard the phrase Hug on a Stick Before. I like it.

I've been told by someone who knows about these things that doo wop, strictly speaking, means a kind of song with four voices, like the rock counterpart of barbershop quartets. Whatever. I vote for Bye Bye Love, Down in the Boon Docks, Under the Boardwalk, Wake Up Little Suzy, Duke of Earl (not Buke or Puke, Mmario), and I'm sure I'll think of many others. Can we revise the rules to include fiddle harmony in our doo wop band?

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 02:18 PM

Ach, ye auld steek inna mudd, Jock!! LOL

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 12:14 PM

Rather not thanks.
G. :~)

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:40 AM

There ya go, Rum!! You get lead on "Lonely Teenager" and "Teenager in Love"!!

This is gonna be the Biggest DooWop Marathon ever heard on planet Earth.

I am presently trascribing the old classic "Wild Rover" into Doo-Wop form. I had it all rigged out as a blues but the chance to do it never came up, so next year I'll have it in DooWop format.

C.............Am..............F................G
Nay, no-o-o never (baadadummm)Never no mo-ore (no more! no more!)

...

You get the idea.


A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: rumanci
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:34 AM

hmmmm
BatGoddess said
(No, Kendall, I wouldn't dare if you were around!)


Oh dear
I would
in fact it might even convince me to sing again
LOL

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: MMario
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:13 AM

Love Potion #9 ?
Ape on the Fire Escape?
Buke of Earl!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 10:06 AM

Don't forget "Teen Angel". One of the schmaltziest of the schmaltziest!!


A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:44 AM

Hey look, Kendall and Leadfingers, that's why there's always other similtanious concerts or workshops scheduled at these Getaways...

I wouldn't mind a MoTown workshop either but not volunteerin' to lead one... Maybe our resident juke box, Amos, would step up to the plate fir it...

Bobert

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Leadfingers
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:34 AM

If you lot are going to start doing fifties/sixties Doo-Wop , I will start looking for kindred souls to start a Getaway Jazz Band - New Orleans to Chicago stuff , preferably !

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:21 AM

Kendall can go off to whatever else is scheduled. I'm with you guys.

Sins and I have been known to start singing 50s and 60s hits together, even when the Capn's around, just to extend his musical education.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 08:06 AM

A couple girl friends and I have been known to do research on and perform (much to Curmudgeon's dismay) in a historical context an under studied American music genre -- the "Dead Date" Song.

Patches -- Last Date -- Tell Laura I Love Her -- Ebony Eyes -- Laurie -- Leader of the Pack, etc.

Linn

(No, Kendall, I wouldn't dare if you were around!)

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: kendall
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 07:58 AM

I'm with Bill. Do oop? AAAARRRGGG!!!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 08:06 PM

Well, gol danged, Amos... That's exactly, almost word fir word, that I said to KT but did it sink in??? Well, maybe???

Next night she comes up to me and she's doin' a nasty version of her upcomin' song "Tastee Freeze Blues"... Whew, when that baby hits the airwaves there'll be blues singes jumpin' in front of tarins and outta highrise windows left and right...

I just have that feelin' that between the two of us we have awakened a blueswomen who is ready to slash and burn the Delta down to bottom of the Mississippi River bed... Yeah, "Tastee Freeze Blues" gonna be so hot that its gonna vaporize the entire Mississippi ERiver, gonna split the country in two and make Death Valley look like a creek in yer backyard...

Sho nuff...

That's the way I see it...

Bobert

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 07:56 PM

One more reason to love Philly. Doo Wop, in addition to Cheese steaks, Tony Luc's, Independence Square, great neighborhoods, Philly Folk Society, 21 Ancient Order of Hibernians Divisions ...... I could go on and on .........

I hate being away from home, but love being on the East Coast.

I can't wait for next year at Getaway.

Mick

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Barry Finn
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 05:36 PM

Love the idea of DOing Do-Woop, it'll be like home as a kid. As a kid growing up in a housing project we used to take out a Hi-Fi & plug it into a 1st floor apt & crank up the sound & soon enough the courtyard would be dancing to the latest. Dancing in the Streets was always a must. No one ever did any singing thought, must've perfered the human touch & getting the hormones ragging.
Also like the idea of bodhran songs, I'll have to start brushing up, now.

Barry

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 03:25 PM

Thanks, Rita. But that reminds me. HOW could we have left out "Venus, If You Will....". My Gawd, we must be having senior moments here!! LOL!


A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ferrara
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 03:10 PM

Oh my heavens Amos! Now you're setting up a Blues School for Ladies! I love it. LMAO.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 12:43 PM

She's quite contiguous enough for my tastes, Giok -- your mother must have been scared by a Picasso print before you were born.

Anyway KT, you ARE a budding blues artist. Just get those words to "Juneau Woman Blues" down and we'll start working on the whole delivery shtick. Thing about blues delivery is, it is simple. It HAS ta be simple. That's where it comes from -- simple places, simple people, nothin' gussied up. So even though the good blues like Bobert's stuff SEEMS complex and subtile, it is just cuz he knows how to weave together a few simple things.

One of them is the guttural. To make a guttural, make believe you are a talking dog with laryngitis and sing a line or two that way.

Another is the Blues Grunt. This is not the "wake me up out of a deep sleep to ask for water" grunt, or the "ask me if this dress makes me look fat while I am doing my tax returns" grunt. This is the sort of grunt that comes from an EXCESS of sentiment trying to get out through a mouth too long forced shut by public censure. It's a deep, in-your-soul, every sad moment all remembered at once kinda grunt. Like all the times you wanted to just haul off and throw a rolling pin at yer man, jump off a bridge into deep ice, or bash some catty rival between the eyes with a spiked heel, or weeping for all the lost chillun you have ever seen, all summed up in a deep, rapid exhalation -- WHUH!!!!!!. Not that you have any rivals, but you know what I mean.

There is also the Angry Blues Grunt, which is like the above but mixed in with a really big sow deciding her piglets are under threat and lurching to the attack. That's a kinda grunt you do NOT wanna mess wit!! But anyone can master it, with a little practice.

Then there's the Near-Tears-Whine. This is a dual-vector pressure release which delivers bottomless grief through the belief that grownups never cry. Ya gotta clamp it down while making it irrepressible, that's the trick, like a Pushme-Pullyou in four-wheel drive fighting against itself to get nowhere. When you get that feeling nice and stirred up, ya just throw back your head and let out a blues line, any line will do, but ya fracture it with those two opposing forces and ya got yerself a world-class Near-Tears Whine.

There's a few other minor techniques for delivering blues, but you start working on these, using the words to Juneau Woman Blues, and you will be on your way to a rising stardom the like of which ole Bobert has merely DREAMED about, I tell ya!

A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 10:28 AM

You're not contiguous KT that's your problem.
Giok ;~)

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 09:01 AM

Now we are home its time to look back through the videos and photoes and try to recapture just a small amount of the wonder that is the Getaway. I feel like I've found a whole new branch of the family and can't wait to meet them all again. Jacqui and Sinsull are my new best friends and Big Mick is the new 'Hug on a Stick'. Kids have a new Uncle Mmario too. CET and Charmion turned out to not only be great friends but wonderful hosts too.
My head is full of songs and my heart full of memories.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 08:38 AM

Hey, KT, think 'bout it this way... Rather than havin' a buddin' blues career crash and burn in 2 mintutes mine has been in a 40 year long tail spin... Now that's the blues...

So consider yerself lucky...

But, hark... I still am quite fond on the doo-woop years... Them songs bring back a lot of good memories when life was simpler and my biggest worry was making baseball practice on time...

I think the best of the doo-woop songs was "Blue Moon"... It had more twists than them Bush administartion tryintg to explain exactly why we invaded Iraq (bad Bobert, take it below the line...)...

Bobert

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 07:46 AM

All those wonderful songs. Can't wait to get to the Getaway next year.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 12:14 AM

Amos, you're a riot! I wish we could all get together so sing before next Getaway! It's too far away!!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 12:09 AM

Poor Bobert indeed! He's not the one whose budding blues career went down the tube in 2 minutes flat!

How 'bout, "Goin' to the Chapel and we're gonna get ma-a-a-ried."

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:46 PM

Poor Bobert!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:45 PM

Not me, boy. If KT wants to do lead on "Soldier Boy", I'll enlist for the duration. :D


A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:43 PM

KT--

Do you really think we're going to turn you down on any song you want to sing?

(Only Bobert would do that).

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:41 PM

Doo-wop is just THE GREATEST! I bet we could have the whole dining hall belting out a few hours of it any night.

On Sunday night I volunteered to lead "Goodnight, Sweetheart" (the Spaniels) but I was told it was too suggestive---







People would just leave and go to bed, and that would be the end of the singing.

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: KT
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:33 PM

okay do these qualify?      "Though we gotta say goodbye.....for the summer....darling, I promise you this ~I'll send you all my love, every day in a letter, sealed with a kiss."

"SOLdier boy, oh my little soldier boy......."

and how 'bout.....


"I hear the cottonwoods whisp'rin' above
Tammy! Tammy! Tammy's in love"

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:31 PM

jimmy, can you teach me how to sing the bass doo wop parts?

Can't wait.

If you like doowop

Be sure to check out the vocal harmony website for some great pre doo wop songs from the 5 red caps, the Spirits of Rhythm, The Ink Spots, The 3 peppers, The 5 keys, Bill Johnson, The Mills Brothers, and many other greats.

http://www.group-harmony.com/

Gutbucketeer
Bass to the world!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 11:16 PM

And "A White Sports Coat and a Pink Carnation" (Rose and a Baby Ruth)

and...and...hell, I'm exhausted just thinking about all that fine doowoppery!!


Leader of the Pack
Soldier Boy
Wait a Minute Mister Postman

and...and...zzzzzzzzzz....


;>)

A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 10:02 PM

Geeze....

I left out:

Dream Lover
Poor Jenny
Little Nash Rambler
Cathy's Clown
Maybe Tomorrow

and just about everything by the Crickets and Buddy Holly:

Love Like Yours
Wake Up Lil Suzie
Rave On
Oh, Boy
That'll Be the Day
It's So Easy

A-we-he-he-hell, little things you say and do, make me want to-oo be with yo-hu-hu.
Rave on, it's a crazy feeling and ah I know it's got me reelin',
when you say : I love you ! Rave on.

The way you dance and ah hold me tight,
the way you kiss and say goodni-hi-hight,
rave on, it's a crazy feeling and I know it's got me reelin',
when you say : I love you ! Rave on.

Well, rave on it's a crazy feeling,
and I know, it's got me reelin',
I'm so glad that you're revealing your love for me.
Rave on, rave on and tell me, tell me not to be lonely,
tell me, you love me only, rave on to me.


Yeah, mebbe we're talking twelve hours here....

A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:53 PM

Geeze....

I left out:

Dream Lover
Poor Jenny
Little Nash Rambler
Cathy's Clown
Maybe Tomorrow

and just about everything by the Crickets and Buddy Holly:

Love Like Yours
Wake Up Lil Suzie
Rave On
Oh, Boy
That'll Be the Day
It's So Easy

A-we-he-he-hell, little things you say and do, make me want to-oo be with yo-hu-hu.
Rave on, it's a crazy feeling and ah I know it's got me reelin',
when you say : I love you ! Rave on.

The way you dance and ah hold me tight,
the way you kiss and say goodni-hi-hight,
rave on, it's a crazy feeling and I know it's got me reelin',
when you say : I love you ! Rave on.

Well, rave on it's a crazy feeling,
and I know, it's got me reelin',
I'm so glad that you're revealing your love for me.
Rave on, rave on and tell me, tell me not to be lonely,
tell me, you love me only, rave on to me.


Yeah, mebbe we're talking twelve hours here....

A

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:38 PM

MIck, I just dredged up the artists of So much in Love. THe Thymes, 1963 Nice walk down nostalgia street!

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: jimmyt
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:26 PM

Do-woppers also are purists Bill, but only about saddle oxfords and cardigan sweaters,

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:19 PM

sounds like a GREAT workshop.......................to put opposite Appalachian ballads.


We purists need a place to escape   *grin*

Subject: RE: 2005 Getaway Reflections Here...
From: Big Mick
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 09:18 PM

All Doo Wop